We all know just how manipulative, dishonest, sensationalist, gutless, unfair and unbalanced is the media in this country. If, like me, you believe they need to be held accountable for the gross display of injustice they push down the throats of the Australian public then this is the thread in which to voice your opinion.
I intend to keep the Media Watch threads open indefinitely. If anyone sees an example of their lies in action then we’d like to learn about it. We will document everything we can and spread the message as far as we can.
The Media Watch pages are archived after 400 comments (or thereabouts), as beyond that they can be slow to open if accessed by some mobile phones.
The new page is up. I’ll leave the previous page open for 24 hours before sending it to the archives.
Poll shows 7% believe ABC is biased against the Liberals, down 1% last time poll was run.
Abbott as usual spruiking his bullshit, “But I do think there is the ongoing issue of bias in the ABC news and current affairs section.”
So Abbott speaking to 7%, but it won’t stop him gutting the ABC if he wins government, and that’s what his claim of bias is really about, setting up to have excuses to turn the ABC into a right wing mouth piece via Murdoch.
It’s akin to his lying utterances on productivity as an excuse to bring in WorkChoices MkII.
Mo, that poll tells us that at least 7% of the population are stark raving mad.
Aunty has to be purged because their bias on CC has cost the Australian taxpayer greatly.
Nice summary of the media’s performance for this year by Craig Emerson at “Australians for Honest Politics”:
” that poll tells us that at least 7% of the population are stark raving mad.”
Could one equally suggest that the 36% who right now will vote for Gillard are also stark raving mad?
From the above link on Australian political blogs.
‘These do not have the same notoriety as blogs in the United States for “breaking stories” or potentially ruining the reputations of politicians or journalists.
‘They have also not generally attracted the same mainstream media attention which comes along with those activities, although in July 2007 the Murdoch owned The Australian used an editorial to attack the credibility of a number of blogs which had called into question the interpretations of opinion poll results by one of the paper’s columnists.’
Blatant media bias by Aunty.
‘He called on any web entrepreneurs in the audience to establish a “rigourous” fact-checking website, saying all public figures should be held to account.
“It is a disgrace how much misinformation has been got away with.”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/lying-is-easy-turnbull-calls-for-less-spin-20121228-2bybw.html#ixzz2GHqGd9j3
El drongo posts a link to Jo Nova, a well known climate change denier. Totally inappropriate. Wrong thread. El drongo has no morals.
Watching ABC Midday News. They are covering the year in politics. Even from the beginning, their Liberal bias is clear. Re Thomson, they report FWA finding Thomson is guilty of misusing credit cards, but don’t mention other reports that have exonerated him, nor problems in FWA report. They mention the Slipper saga, noting his resignation, and Gillard’s anti-misogyny speech which went viral, but get those in the wrong order. The scandal of the year, Justice Rares’ judgment, outlining LNP conspiracy against Slipper and governement, and which exonerated Slipper, doesn’t get a mention. Fuck you, ABC.
ABC bias is on topic.
I’d like to add my voice to silkworms… fuck you aunty.
‘ADVERTISING baron John Singleton and investment banker Mark Carnegie have joined forces with Gina Rinehart to agitate for change at Fairfax Media after purchasing a small strategic stake in the media company.
‘Mrs Rinehart’s Hancock Prospecting and a company called Gutenberg Investments, backed by Mr Singleton and Mr Carnegie, revealed last night that they had “agreed to consult with each other” on key matters affecting Fairfax Media.’
Kitney and Elliott in the Oz
‘Mr Singleton said the Fairfax Charter of Independence should be reviewed.’
“I was on the board of Fairfax when Sir Zelman Cowen was chairman of the board some 20 years ago, when the existing Fairfax Charter of Independence was drawn,” he said.
“There is no reason why a group of eminent and experienced Australians should not review the charter to ensure and enable its relevance for today, and the current very challenging times for the media.”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/rupert-or-gina-no-thanks-say-greens-20121229-2c03o.html#ixzz2GPxbiYoh
The Green’s take on the above..
Bandt is perfectly correct of course..Gina is attempting to buy public opinion via Bolt and now $s aimed at Fairfax.
And a classic statement by Bandt:
El gordo, snap. 🙂
Ah … Singo seems like a reasonable fella.
“However it is important to state that both Gina and I believe that the lifeblood of Fairfax is the integrity and accuracy of its journalism,” said John Singleton.
Brandt has reason to be concerned, Gina is a member of the Denialati.
New Media (The 5th Estate)
‘8 million people saw The Hobbit on its opening weekend. This blog was viewed about 36,000,000 times in 2012. If every person who saw The Hobbit visited this blog, it would take 5 years for them all to read it.
‘In 2012, there were 1,929 new posts, growing the total archive of this blog to 8,297 posts.
‘The busiest day of the year was January 31st with 229,775 views. The most popular post that day was Bitter cold records broken in Alaska – all time coldest record nearly broken, but Murphy’s Law intervenes.’
Anthony Watts (WUWT)
Little piece of sh#t el grubbo deliberately flouts our rule against mentioning creationist-denialist Watts outside the designated thread. F#ck off.
And a happy new year to you too, worm.
Is CW ready for this?
It appears that there is indeed nothing new under the sun.
Six years on, and nothing’s changed.
Bacchus that blog comp is a bit iffy, nevertheless, congrats for being close to the top.
And I’m not entirely happy with the Bloggies, Nova and Watts coming in under science and technology.
Dickhead troll uses any excuse to mention AGW denier sites on dedicated media thread.
Newspaper revenue estimated to drop 4% in 2013.
And the horrible beast continues its death throws.
ME, Ir looks like the fifth estate can report news as it happens.
Funny that, not only report, but from those on the spot, those being affected and involved.
First hand, not second.
With this being an election year it could be good news on the media front
Sue, wonder if that will bring any new competition. At least is should extend job opportunities of journalist.
Apparently Guardian will bring some of their own journos on secondment before looking for locals.
“A Sun reporter, understood to be Anthony France, has become the 22nd journalist from the News International tabloid to be arrested as part of Scotland Yard’s investigation into inappropriate payments to public officials between 2004 and 2011”
ABC misreporting, in that they fail to report the MP is a member of the NT govt, hence a member of the CLP and not just a NT politician.
“A Northern Territory politician has been accused of covering up allegations that her brother misappropriated hundreds of thousands of dollars from an Aboriginal corporation.”
“I am very disillusioned with the media response to the Slipper/Ashby verdict. The whole issue is being played down by most media outlets. I don’t know why”.
Reith’s favour word seems to be “she”. Drum
Once again, caught out lying, If not lying, then stupid.
I’ll vote for the 2nd option CU 😉
As the Get Nova campaign winds up through the gears, I’m getting very angry about it & not a little scared.
I put up a bit of a rant about this sort of thing on PB some time back & I think it’s worth restating.
No one should be in any doubt that if deemed necessary this sort of treatment can & will be meted out to YOU. Your only defence against this sort of attack is your insignificance. That’s the country we live in.
All we need, is a truth test. If it passes, it can be printed. Lies not allowed. Believe Canada has gone down this path,
Do we need this.
Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/top-stories/nova-admits-being-over-limit-but-says-critics-are-too/story-e6frfkp9-1226562570723#ixzz2J91FUBlb
PS. It appears that Nova stretched that $50,000 further by using some of her own furniture.
Pathetic, isn’t it Mo. No, it’s shameful.
Words fail me Migs. If anyone had any doubt that the ABC is nothing more than the Coalition’s mouthpiece and a branch of Ltd News then theirs and Uhlmann’s shameful behaviour on this matter, even delivering the Nova Peris rumour with a smirk, this should dispel it.
I heard an NT Dept of Education spokesperson say that the release of information about DoE judgments is illegal.
Min, I’m astonished that you’re not riveted by Liealot’s announcement of a mini campaign!
I’m sure it will be chock full of interesting three word slogans, ringing endorsements by Anal Jones and that great champion of gay and Muslim rights, Cory Bernardi and an exciting wardrobe composed of red smugglers, fireman’s hats and high vis vests.
How could you not appreciate such a visual and verbal feast? 😆 😆 😆
Migs & ME, do you really expect any other behaviour from the Liars and their barrackers in the msm? Uhlmann is a complete jerk and should be sacked.
Mini election campaign, without any policy announcement. Why Lidcombe, the heart of the Muslim community.
At least he appears to have the media onside. Michelle and others are coming to the party, on cue, it seems.
Jane, riveted as in:
Synonyms: anchored, at a standstill, at rest, frozen, immobilized, immotile, immovable, nailed, rigid..but most especially.. rooted.
What got me, was that stupid grin on his face. he really loves the adulation.
The stupid thing is, apart from that shit grin on is face, he’s promising to fix things that aren’t broken.
He’s doing a Howard, inventing disasters where none exists.
” #ABC24 Did thorough investigation of #NovaPeris on a RUMOUR. Not a word aboujt #MalBrough on a JUDGEMENT that he’d done wrong. #embarassing”
That just about sums up the current state of play, doesn’t it 😦
he’s promising to fix things that aren’t broken.
Not only that ME, he is claiming that broken things are already fixed.
We are a pretty normal family with a mortgage, with bills. We’ve struggled with the school fees, we’ve struggled with the hospital bills and yes, it’s easier now
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-rallies-the-troops-in-sydney-20130127-2dekd.html#ixzz2JDWoEGFw
Abbott struggles with those things because he gets in way over his head and thinks he deserves far more money than he gets.
I have no doubt he will push for a large pay rise the moment he gets into power, to which the right winger hypocrites will be deathly silent when they would be outraged if a Labor leader did it.
Tom’s back. 🙂
Hopefully with a bag of King George Whiting. 🙂 🙂
Heard great arguments this morning, that he cannot release his policy figures that are costed and their effect on the budgets.
. Refuses to say who are doing the costing, According to Hockey, more than one person.
I cannot buy the argument, that the cost cannot be release. Surely that does not change, no matter what the budget reveals.
While he is at it, I hope he releases the cost of all he is going to demolish. The cost of removing those taxes he will be dismantling. Cannot do so without cost.
I agree with Senator Wong, that we need to be told what he will be cutting, to bring in that magical surplus, which he believes will fix all our ills.
Still has not told us where he is going to find the arable land for all those trees.
His mini campaign is being described as presidential. Aways the overdo when it comes to Abbott. Always over reaching, no matter what he puts his hands to.
A campaign that tells one nothing. Its only aim is to sell Abbott.
Hopefully with a bag of King George Whiting.
No fishin’, just boogey boarding and getting dumped in the surf (ok, swell)
So just crabs 🙂
Michelle still being kind to Abbott.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/abbotts-blueprint-is-still-a-work-in-progress-20130127-2df0v.html#ixzz2JEAa30OH
Min @7.24am, roflmao!
CU @11.59am, Michelle’s like Macbeth. She’s hitched her wagon to Liealot and has gone too far to unhitch it and return to the starting line and some self respect.
The Liars must have found more than one catering firm to do the costings. 😯
This mornings ABC radio national interview between Fran Kelly and Albanese was interesting in that Fran played a sound bite of Hockey verballing the Prime Minister.
Albanese pointed out that maybe Fran should look at what the Prime Minister actually said rather than what Hockey said she said.
The point is that Fran is either (1) a lazy reporter, who takes little interest in facts or (2) is a keen political player who supports the Liberal party lies.
Well done Anthony Albanese to keep those bastards at the ABC honest.
Here’s an interview of Thom(p)son the media should have done.
And more about theirabc slurs on the PM
It is good to have Lyn Curtis back. Is more inclined to ask questions than voice opinions.
Erica Abetz in now on. Is being asked questions and challenged on his answers.
She pointed out that being charged is not the same as being convicted.
I believe that is true in these types of cases.
Abetz tried to alleged that the PM named the date of the election, because she was aware of what was happening today. Wonder how that could have been. I believe the PM would have been one of the last to know,
Mr. Abbott has by his actions this week, has indicated he was in full election mode.
What the PM has done, is to face reality, naming the date.
If Mr. Abbott wants to spend a further 8 months electioneering, so be it.
That is all he has done since the last election.
Bring on an election that is about carbon emission and world leading broadband.
Not so sure there is a great movement out there to jettison either.
I suspect that parents do not mind the money they got this month, in their bank accounts to help with school expenses, or really want to see wealthy women being reimbursed up to a 150.000 for having a baby.
HSU talking ABC 24.
Two MPs announce there retirement dates after serving long terms in govern.
They told the PM twelve months ago their desires. Both say they are leaving for family reasons.
The senator left the time of his departure up to the PM. The AG said that she had not even met her husband when she entered parliament, Her daughter is getting older, She wants time with her before she grows up.
The PM has now chance to add new talent to the cabinet. Chris Bowen has been one that has benefits. Remember Chris, the one who sided with Mr. Rudd,
What do we have in the MSM. This is terrible for the PM. Should there be an earlier election. Mr, Abbott saying this is a sign of a unstqable government. It is up to the PM if she changes her mind about the election date.
Why is reordering a cabinet seen as being unstable. People makes decisions to retire all the time.
This one has been done in an extremely ordered manner.
Both seem to have to deferred their plans in the interest of the government.
Both have served long terms,.
Now to the shadow cabinet. It is made up of people who also sat in the Howard government that was ousted in 2007.
Mr. Abbott said they will sit on the front bench in an Abbott government should they win. He says they are the nest he has.
It is said that Abbott will not change any as it upsets and makes people unhappy. To me, that says Mr. Abbott has not got the guts to make unpopular but necessary decisions.
Once again we have a media beat up with the intention of presenting Labor politics in a negative manner.
Why? No excuse,as this was written after the PC. It is an orderly adjustments to the cabinet, because two very long term MPs are resigning.
What is of more concern, that Abbott cannot see any reason to change the shadow cabinet.
Another beat up. Interviews being held up to March. Even if true, would not make much change to this parliament. If he got the job, he would not be taking it up to very near the election date anyway.
It is as Lyndal Cutis said, a minor cabinet reshuffle. No was a major one, as the media is saying.
I am sure that Bowen is happy to lose immigration. Rudd supporters seem to have done well.
Another beat up hits the dust.
PM in turmoil. Shock resignations. Shock to whom. Yes, unexpected, as they kept their secrets for 12 months, Shock, no. It is not unusual for MPs to announce their wish to retire prior to an election.
In fact, it is the time to do so. Being MPs for up and over two decades is what most consider enough.
Once again, it is not wise to believe the headlines have anything to do with the body of the stories,
The result is a minor reshuffle, that allows a little new blood in. That has to be a positive.
The truth is, it is MSM that once again have been caught out.
Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillard-in-turmoil-20130202-2dqut.html#ixzz2Jhj6Jqz8
Liberals Ashby wall of silence cracks….
This is going to cause a world of hurt for the Liberals before election day if the media does even some basic questioning.
Mobius thanks for that. I have already commented last nights Lateline was worth watching, for more that the Ashby comments.
I do hope they keep bringing Pyne out every day. He is priceless.
I would like to add, Morrison now has a worthy opponent. One that does not carry the baggage poor Bowen was left with. Expect new developments in the near future.
After all he said, he has four daughters, and it does not stop him.
Follow on to the above story. I believe we are beginning to see in public what all who meet her in private, say they see. A very human, caring woman, she does not need a make over. One who has the guts to make the hard decisions.
Interesting is Michelle Grattan..firstly Grattan labels ministers resigning as being “unsettled and uncertain…and then announces her own resignation from Fairfax.
I love the irony, Min.
‘Chaos’, or how to see the world like a political journalist
Oh so true.
“She doesn’t go off half c-cked.
If the age wants icons I have a few on my desktop which I am regularly informed by a pop-up message that I do not use.
I used to appreciate Grattan’s writing until about 12 months ago when she seemed to become inconsistent, perhaps trying to compete with the Murdoch media, perhaps. attempting to have a “balanced” opinion but to me ended up being all over the place.
None of which has been evident in her work over the last year or so, CU.
Did you hear the comment the PM made after question time/. Pointed to chaos in the press chore etc.
Julie Bishop had a specific question directed toward AG Dreyfus in QT, the question was more about Dreyfus being Jewish than a legitimate question relevant to the AG. Tony Wright has an opinion piece on this BUT it appears in Fairfax on-line in WA not SMH or the AGE or CT or Brisbane.
Cori B. the projectionist 🙄 ….
Wonder what the right wingers are going to do for misinformation when Ltd. News’s publishing arm goes under.
Rupert’s quandry: News Corp results show publishing’s dead
Shit, they might even have to actually look up “facts”.
Just found this little tit bit about fox news.
Fox owned by Murdoch, News limited owned by Murdoch, compare the story and decide for yourself. Too much of a coincidence I think.
Propaganda from Fran Kelly on our ABC is disgraceful.
RADIO National Breakfast, yesterday:
FRAN Kelly: Dramatic falls in staple crop production, and a jump in malnutrition are predicted across the Asia Pacific in coming decades due to climate change. . . (Dr Mark Rosegrant) . . . according to your research which crops would be most affected?
Politicians and journalists in lockstep on march of idiocy
Haha. The Australian in attempting to do a snow job for Abbott.
“…people who earn as little as $180000.”
Abbott’s new poor who need propping up by taking away from the majority who earn well under $180000, shit under half of that, those who earn “as little as $180000”.
What I find hard to believe, why one can say, the same does not happen here. Why would that be so.
People who earn as little as $180,000/year need welfare more than people who live on less than ¼ of $180,000?????? What planet do these people live on, ffs?
Are they in contact with any form of reality, ME?
It’s behind the paywalled article below jane.
Raiding super a mistake
Words to flail and words to nail
The ABC needs to both answer the questions on this and have their complaints policy overhauled so they cannot ignore legitimate concerns voiced by consumers.
From David Donovan..
Steve Lewis is a Murdoch journalist who has never seen a Liberal Party dirt file he didn’t like.
Amen to this. Let it be.
When is the penny going to drop with the Opposition, that asking over and over questions about the deficit and the MRRT only allows the government to remind the public what they have achieved, and what the public is in danger of losing.
The shortfall in MRRT collections has already been factured into the budget, before Christmas.
How many will be shown the door today.
QT, Over a thousand have been returned to Sri Lanka since August. Many more in the same time period than Howard ever managed.
Cu, and done via proper channels..that being people found not to be genuine refugees which compares with Abbott’s Boys Own Adventure of turning back the boats.
Also, undermines what Ms. Bishop and Mr. Morrison said on their return from Sri Lanka last week They made an address on ABC 24 which no one took any notice of. Ir was mentioned, he told the Sri Lankans, out navy would be pAtrolling their waters, turning the boats back.
In their talk, which I wasted time listening to every word, as they painted a rosy picture on the country for all, especially the Tamils. I got the impression, Ms. bishop believes every word that one tells her.
Why the visit sunk into the ether, is beyond me, considering the effort the two put into their presentation.
Mr. Morrison today move a private members bill to bring TV back. Why do we need those, as this government is not giving any visas to these people. Well not for many years, when they reach the head of the queue, for those in this region.
Mr. Morrison, in his speech, whinged about, what he called fact, that the government should put all of the Pacific Solution back in place.
Maybe Mr. Morrison can point out where Mr. Howard was tougher than this government.
Mr. Morrison wants to bring back the TV, making them, work for benefits.
After three years, they will be reassessed, if they cannot be sent back, the TV will be extended for another three years.
This government, at this time is only issuing bridging visa’s that do not allow work.
Abbot wants Unionist jailed, Now I might be mistaken but are not the two charged, already facing jail. Why the need for new leglisation?
Shorten has already tightened up FWA regulations and fines.
The bill will go nowhere, Just another Abbott stunt, to put the boot into the PM. Which he did with gusto.
“Why the visit sunk into the ether, is beyond me, considering the effort the two put into their presentation.”
Maybe because of this little piece of embarrassment CU…
Click to access AUBishopTrip.pdf
Bacchus, that question was asked of Bishop; at the time. Yes, it did make her look stupid.
If so, why did not the ABC follow up with the story?.
The naivety of the woman, that she believes they would tell a visiting politician the truth. Especially those who knew why the two were there.
Bacchus/Cu, before that, she already looked stupid.
Migs, I was disappointed. So early in the morning. I thought we would get it all day.
Not one whimper after that show. Yes, she looked stupid from the moment she opened her mouth. That is why I wanted to see it repeated.
For the first time, in three years, she asked Emerson, a question in her shadow ministry. Once again botched it, as she did last week.
PS. Morrison was no better. The show was definitely scripted.
J Bishop is probably the most incompetent of the Lib front bench, and the most likely to fall first. If she falls, Abbott is left extremely vulnerable. That is why the MSM/ABC protect her.
Min, the senate hearings on asylum seekers was told today that the surge of those from Sri Lanka has ceased,
I suspected that was the case.
Silkworm, I have absolutely no doubt at all that J.Bishop has been the token woman for a number of Liberal leaders. The least travelled, the least astute of any Foreign Minister or Shadow in living memory..if she believes that a kittenish meow and the death stare equates with diplomacy…
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The Guardian cannot come quick enough, Hope it is here before August.
Lenore is one of the few journalists who have given fair treatment to Ashbygate. Roll on, Guardian.
Interesting address on medis. NPC, Prof.. Picard.
All happy in the Liberal camp. Of course Mr. Abbott would not interfere like the PM. Do not see any flying pigs either.
Jut because we fo not read in the MSM what Mr. Abbott is up to, does not mean it does not happen.
How low can the Opposition get, This is what the senate wasted their time on yesterday. Taking a fig at out two female leaders, for not wearing a poppy the day before Remembrance day.
To me, such behaviors only highlights the fact, that the Opposition is finding it hard to find things to criticise.
Picard at NPC does not believe in journalist courses. I can only agree. He said they only teach how to say things.
Would rather have a journalist that is trained in what he is reporting, such as law and politics, even cooking. . In other words, know what they are talking about.
I get the feeling, questions are not being asked, because many journalist are not on top of topic.
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Emma Alberici on Lateline interrupting Tony Burke 4 times over MRRT. She did the same with Tanya Plibersek a few weeks ago.
Alberici is a rude pig.
Alberici, was doing as the Opposition has been doing for two days. Using today’s spot prices, that indicate the ore prices are back, I think to 80% of what they were previously.
The give the impression that the miners are already getting this money, therefore it is not the prices that are causing the shortfall.
The trouble is, those prices will not come into being immediately.
I suspect, they will show up in profits in the second half of this year.
That is why I do not understand why the Coalition is pushing it so hard, unless they still believe they can force an earlier election.
It appears that grattan isn’t really a welcome addition at The Conversation.
This pretty much appears to be the general regard held over there.
Pick up your game, or piss off.
And I concur, except, I wouldn’t even give her the opportunity to pick her game up, it is pretty obvious she no longer has one.
A couple of days ago Howard the Coward said it would be better for Labor if Rudd challenged Gillard. The next day, right on cue, the MSM followed Rudd around like a bad smell trying to get a rise out of him. Sucky, sucky MSM.
Did The Australian misrepresent ………………….?
Is that a trick question 😉
Mark doesn’t just think so Min, the data fully backs him and the misrepresented data presented by The Australian damns them.
It’s why whenever one of the closed mind right wingers here quotes anything from News Ltd I just ignore it. They have immediately lost any point they are trying to make because the chance is very high the information they are using is false.
Murdoch misrepresenting stuff
you mean like this
‘One of Rupert Murdoch’s most senior European executives has resigned following Guardian inquiries about a circulation scam at News Corporation’s flagship newspaper, the Wall Street Journal.
The Guardian found evidence that the Journal had been channelling money through European companies in order to secretly buy thousands of copies of its own paper at a knock-down rate, misleading readers and advertisers about the Journal’s true circulation.’
Circulation figures: the paper is dead, long live the ‘masthead’
From your link ME
According to Mitchell, The Oz is stripping back on discounted print sales — a claim not borne out by the data.
And from Sue
Murdoch misrepresenting stuff
Another day, another lie 😦
Well there has been great harm done to the mining industry. Must be,m because Mr. Hockey and <r/. Abbott says so.
“The leaking of two uncosted and short-on-detail draft policies ”
So this shows imagination????????????????????
WTF from their abc @ approx 6:28 on the video,
The lead-in ?
Toolman propaganda on behalf of the liars party from the abc?
This is some serious shit for our democracy, considering the cops, msm, abc are all getting into the act.
Living under fascist rule as the world’s ecosystems collapse at increasing rates in the face of AGW doesn’t look like a “golden” future to me
You have to laugh if it wasn’t so demoralising.
Yet another media beatup about Rudd challenging Gillard comes to naught, as the wise here and elsewhere said it would, unlike the right wingers here who got it wrong again.
Just like the last beatup on it and the one before that they are blaming Rudd for the challenge that never was and was never going to be.
This time though according to Riley on Seven it’s because Rudd wanted to challenge but didn’t want to take up a poisoned chalice so decided not to.
This is what I mean that with the media they never lose no matter what crap they put out there even if it never comes to past or is proven to be false.
Same story on The RBA governor Glenn Steven’s comments on the economy today.
Channel 10. All bad for the government. Terrible news and big problems for the economy because of the government’s handling. Bad for Swan. Interest rates won’t be cut. Stronger $A bad for struggling businesses. Economic gloom ahead.
ABC News. Reserve governor upbeat about the economy. Good signs ahead, consumer confidence up, China recovering and other areas looking positive.
Economy surprisingly upbeat.
So which one is correct.
$A rises on upbeat RBA comments
AUDUSD Moves Back to 1.03 After Comments from RBA Governor
$A higher on positive RBA comments
Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the fact that the interest rate does not need to fall, is because of the strength in the economy, not weakness.
Can one explain why the interest rates continue to rise, was it 12 or more times, in the years of budget surpluses.
So here is another example of the moronity of the MSM at the moment, especially over the Rudd never was challenge.
Channel 7 Sunrise have a segment called “Master of Spin” that is supposed to be an exposé of spin but is often opinionated spin itself, as was the case this morning with Carro and Hilderbrand.
Kevin was always going to challenge and will challenge the moment he gets and opportunity, that’s and absolute fact.
Kevin challenging has always been indisputable.
OK, now the two have made these absolute assertions lets hear the facts of it.
Kevin wants to be PM and is ambitious.
Yes folks, that was the indisputable fact, Rudd wants to be PM. That single opinion from these two absolves all the MSM falsehoods on this and proves they were right all along. So you see people we had it wrong and in the face of the irrefutable evidence that, “Kevin wants to be PM,” we must recant and apologise for bagging the MSM for coming up with Rudd challenges whenever the polls were going badly for Abbott.
You know we read and hear some utter crap from the MSM, more often now than ever, so most have come to expect it and should not be surprised at how low and inane they can go, yet time and again MSM stupidity still surprises me, and this was one of those times.
Mobius, it’s all become very tiresome and déjà vu-ish. Always and always when Abbott puts foot in mouth the debate is immediately overwhelmed by the MSM’s diversionary tactics of (yet more) leadership speculation.
Many in the media and Rudd supporters seem to be suffering from amnesia,
To refresh their memories, I would like to take them back top before Mr. Rudd’s caucus, unceremoniously, in unison dumped him.
I seem to remember, day after day, defending Mr Rudd on this and other sites from the attack on him from the media. Attacked from eating earwax to accusing him of lying about his childhood. It was relentless.
Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. Does anyone else have memories from that time.
Interesting graphs on this site.
Fed up, I and I dare say Rudd has no doubt whatsoever that the personal attacks would immediately be launched if Rudd was to become leader again.
Just thinking, could Gina’s foray into Ch 10 and Fairfax, lead to the final nail in their coffins.
Maybe the Guardian, in the long run, might be interested in picking them up for a song.
One of the reasons that I was glad to see Gillard make her run at the time, was that she would be better able to deal with such attacks.
The PM has not been able to stop the MSM, but she does take it up to them.
At the same time, I was sad to see the PM takes that poison chalice, as I seen it possibly preventing her to reach her truer heights.
I am sure the PM was not happy at the way she had to become PM at that time. She is not that stupid and would have realise what she was up against.; Sadly, she was not ready, but the only one available to take up the cudgel.
The fat lady still has not sung yet.
The MSM would have eventually destroyed Rudd. It is a shame he cannot accept that. Rudd did do much good.
For the same reasons. The pushing forwarded of Shorten makes no sense. He is an young man. WHy would he make his run now.
Saying that, there are many more in caucus that would make excellent PMs. The party is richly endowed in this aspect.
Who would take over from Abbott I have no idea, as I see no depth of talent whatever.
If a funny way. Abbott is the best they have.
Possum has it in for those who are blaming the media for the government’s woes.
The people most often blamed for media bias causing the government problems are folks that are seen by less than 1% of voters.
That tweet by Possum doesn’t even make sense.
I have to say I disagree with Possum on his general thrust. He’s letting the media off too easily, and if he is insinuating that the government is mostly to blame, he has to spell out exactly what the government has done wrong, and what it can or should do to improve its stocks, and he has failed to do this.
Sorry, Possum, I don’t trust your evaluation of the polls.
I reckon Mitchell has really had it in for Rudd since the Dubya incident just after Rudd became PM.
“You can’t build a strong corporation with a lot of committees and a board that has to be consulted every turn. You have to be able to make decisions on your own.” 😯
“For better or for worse, our company (The News Corporation Ltd.) is a reflection of my thinking, my character, my values. 🙄
Rupert Murdoch’s Quotes
In motivating people, you’ve got to engage their minds and their hearts. I motivate people, I hope, by example – and perhaps by excitement, by having productive ideas to make others feel involved.
For better or for worse, our company (The News Corporation Ltd.) is a reflection of my thinking, my character, my values
I try to keep in touch with the details… I also look at the product daily. That doesn’t mean you interfere, but it’s important occasionally to show the ability to be involved. It shows you understand what’s happening.
You can’t build a strong corporation with a lot of committees and a board that has to be consulted every turn. You have to be able to make decisions on your own.
The buck stops with the guy who signs the checks
Is there any other industry in this country which seeks to presume so completely to give the customer what he does not want.
I’m a catalyst for change … You can’t be an outsider and be successful over 30 years without leaving a certain amount of scar tissue around the place.
The world is changing very fast. Big will not beat small anymore. It will be the fast beating the slow.
There is so much media now with the Internet and people, and so easy and so cheap to start a newspaper or start a magazine, there’s just millions of voices and people want to be heard.
Most newspaper companies still have their heads in the sand, but other media companies are aggressive.
News…communicating news and ideas, I guess.. is my passion. And giving people alternatives so that they have two papers to read and alternative television channels.
The Internet has been the most fundamental change during my lifetime and for hundreds of years. Someone the other day said, “It’s the biggest thing since Gutenberg,” and then someone else said “No, it’s the biggest thing since the invention of writing.”
The buck stops with me, but I can tick off dozens of very good senior executives that are responsible for hundreds or thousands of people who work for me.
You’ve got to look for a gap, where competitors in a market have grown lazy and lost contact with the readers or the viewers.
I think we’ve been an agent for change, everywhere, and I think change frightens people. They’re going nicely in what seems like a settled industry, and someone comes in and says: “I can do this better. It doesn’t matter how nice that other one is.” That’s one of the distinguishing points of our acquisitions.
Size and synergies between the different segments of the company matter. As far as we are concerned, the Internet is broadening our opportunity, as well as for other big media companies with huge resources in sports, entertainment and news. There’s just more opportunity.
My ventures in media are not as important to me as spreading my personal political beliefs.
In this country, Fox News has gotten a big, big audience that appreciates its independence. There’s passion there, and it’s pushed. … It has taken a long time, but it has now changed CNN because it has challenged them — they’ve become more centrist in their choice of stories. They’re trying to become, using our phrase, more fair and balanced.
Nothing but hard work, taking your opportunities, taking your advantages. (How Murdoch has achieved his success).
We have no intention of failing. The only question is how great a success we’ll have.
What does libertarian mean? As much individual responsibility as possible, as little government as possible, as few rules as possible. But I’m not saying it should be taken to the absolute limit.
I don’t run anything for respectability.
I believe too many of us editors and reporters are out of touch with our readers. Too often, the question we ask is “Do we have the story? rather than “Does anyone want the story?”
Success in the online world will, I think, beget greater success in the printed medium. By streamlining our operations and becoming more nimble. By changing the way we write and edit stories. By listening more intently to our readers.
The digital native doesn’t send a letter to the editor anymore. Individual goes online, and starts a blog. What I worry about much more is our ability to make the necessary cultural changes to meet the new demands of the digital native.
Its a funny thing,… Broken Hill and Australian modern history….. modern industrialised mining started here…. Australia’s industial revolution started here….. union and Labor stronghold of workers rights started here….. o.h.s. (w.h.s.) started here….. union owned newspapers started here ( the Barrier Daily Truth)…. and blow me down even News Limited (sort of) started here via a paper called the ‘Barrier Miner’, a paper that a young Rupert worked at. ( drawing a long bow, as it were, but one wonders if his anti-union stance started here too !!!)
“In 1922,Mr Davison went to Adelaide and founded the “News” evening paper which is now controlled by the Rupert Murdoch group. He died in London in 1929 at the age of 61 years, while attending an Empire Press Conference.”
Just watching Leigh Sales on 7.30 Report interviewing Chris Bowen. What a nasty neoliberal she has turned into. Deviously promoting Rudd over Gillard, then denying it when Bowen confronts her. The most galling thing is that she actually flat out stated that cutting pensions is the responsible thing to do. Worth watching again and tearing apart. Now she’s confronting Flannery over the science of climate change. She has turned, and turned badly.
Looks like news-libited has been caught out Making Shit Up again.
AN ABC journalist has been disciplined by the broadcaster’s management over concerns that his online posts about the National Broadband Network failed to meet its “standards of objective journalism”.
Mind you, there is dissenting opinion.
Abbott out with all his women this morning. PM dividing the country, unlike him, who has visited many states this week. Is now in Melbourne.
Who picks up the plane fares. The PM has also spent a few fdays is SA recently. You will not see him only working for some, if he becomes PM. Of course we will also see pink pigs flying.
The PM has more to do wirth her time, that travel around the country.
Fed up, yes and I’ll bet that those flying pink pigs give their frequent flyer points to Abbott too 😆
It must be great to get paid shitloads of money to fly around the country promoting yourself … not a lot of value for the punters, is he? 😯
For photo ops and nothing more.
The PM did
Did make more that a couple of serious speeches.
Did attend meetings, while at the same time attending to government business.
By the way, the PM paid the hotel bill.
Wonder how many people got some extra work during her visit.
It appear to be work all the way.
Hopefully they’ll give him a little more than just frequent flyer points, TS.
Yes, there was a circus last week, out at Rooty7 Hill. It was not the PM that was the clown, but the media themselves.
NOTE. Only a handful of people outside the motel.
We had a swing against Labor of 2.3 percent in WA.
This was somehow beat up by the media, with great fanfare and allegations that Labor was on the edge of collapsing, that the PM was definitely on the way out.
We had a call from a WA pollie that the end was nigh. People do not and will not vote for this PM, because they do not like her.
At the same time we had the media complaining that Rudd was not running, Shorten had decline the invitation. In other words, no evidence whatever that there would be a spill. None whatever.
The evening was topped off by polls that made them all look fools. No things are not worse for the PM. In fact, they are a little better.
Could one hope, that today, the media pull off it’s attack, and get back to reporting what the PM says and does. Not what they believe she should be doing.
Their ABC at work;
Describing today’s Newspoll three point increase as a “small lift” in Labor’s electoral fortunes. A swing of about two & a half against them in W.A. on the weekend was a comprehensive drubbing, an electoral disaster, proof that Julia Gillard can’t etc, etc.
Spot on Bob.
Like many, I suspect, I’ve voted with my off switch as far as the ABC’s concerned. The news with a salt shaker ready to hand & reruns of English cop shows is all I watch now. None of their “current affairs” stuff. Not Media Watch anymore either.
A lot of us progressives had our hopes raised when the PM appointed Jim Spigelman as CEO of the ABC. Alas, he has dashed our hopes. There has been no change in the right-wing bias evidenced in ABC reporting. One would think the PM would have been a little more diligent in ensuring the objectivity and fairness in ABC reporting given that much of the right-wing bias in the ABC is directed at her.
Just saw Turdball saying how the new media legislation is Baaaaad 😯
John Faine gave him a bit of sarcasm, and Turdball came back with shock and horror at the prospect that a mere broadcaster had the temerity to question the level of hypocrisy in the print media, as he (Faine) pointed out that the Daily Terrographs front page emphasised the need for the the changes. 😯
TURDBALL? Mmmmmmm 🙄
So you believe the proposed media legislation is good?
The true test if this legislation is so good, would you be comfortable if the coalition gets in and has these powers over the MSM?
Scaper, you’re an idiot. The coalition already controls the media.
Got any proof to back that up?
Nah silkworm you have it the wrong way round, the media controls the Coalition.
The proposed legislation is ill indeed. The media and Opposition’s over the top reaction says it all.
One needs to remember, the media still has the power, as a gatekeeper in society.
One needs to ask, who is the media there for, In this day and age, when the mighty dollars rules, an the bottom line is advertising.
If this is the case, society also needs to force the media to be accountable. Yes, there is free speech, but most thinking people would also believe, this free speech also carries responsibilities.
Al rights carry responsibilities.
I cannot help but feel that this government has set another trap for Abbott.
scaper, the truth is before you every day. Just follow what the media has to say.
What is more important, is what they are not saying.
If the Liars and the msm hate the legislation, Conroy must be on the right track. I hope that truth in news reporting is included in the legislation.
The Greens and the Independents (even Katter) are saying that the proposed legislation is quite weak and doesn’t go far enough. Conroy’s proposal may just be testing the waters, but if the govt is willing to work with the Independents, stronger legislation may yet emerge.
Silkworm, without knowing how the legislation is worded it seems likely that it needs to be fairly benign at this stage to as to avoid the potential of a high court challenge. Heaven help us, given the completely over the top reaction from the DT can you imagine the squeals had the legislation been any “stronger”. I’m with you, Conroy may indeed be testing the waters..it seems that Katter has come on board with this in the legislation’s current form.
This will come as no surprise to anyone here.
Public trust in Australian media among worst in the world
Yet the gormless right wingers still mostly believe what the MSM makes ups, which puts them way behind in the queue.
Sometimes one wonders why one takes even a detached interest in the governance of this land.
Adelaide TV news tonight detailing a debate between the Labor premier & the Liberal opposition leader. The reporting I thought had a reasonable tenor of bias toward the Liberal. We heard the Liberal man favours Business Led Initiatives for the State, this going down a treat with the Business Folk who formed the audience & appeared to judge him the winner.
Moving on to the next news item, we learn that a Business, a large Insurance Company, has pulled the pin on its underwriting business construction insurance, presumably because there’s no Money in it. And the media of course immediately wants to know “So what’s the government going to do about THAT then???!!!”
On Migs’ mate, Margo Kingston. Margo of course was interviewed by Migs for his article over at the AIMN blog.
Citizen journos unite.
Min, Margo’s webdiary was my first experience of blogs. Her address was published in Not Happy John. It’s lovely to see her writing again.
OK the media is becoming absolutely ridiculous now.
I’ve posted Rudd’s funny St. Patrick’s day speech here: https://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/cafe-talk-xx/#comment-141058
Now I defy anyone to find in that speech where Rudd is saying he’s going to challenge for the leadership because the Labor party is in turmoil.
Yet that is exactly what two breakfast news bulletins I saw on TV this morning said. Rudd in a St. Patrick’s Day speech has said he’s going to challenge for the leadership because senior Labor Party strategists are worried about the turmoil in the party and that speech shows him issuing the intent to challenge.
The media and journalism in this country have gone way beyond being a joke, they have deteriorated into infantile, bullying and deceitful miscreants without a modicum of ethics or morals.
Could not be desperation on behalf of the media. I think that Rudd is enjoying himself setting the media up. The media are so up themselves they cannot see this,.
ME, loved Rudd’s speech. He seemed to be in fine form and thoroughly enjoying himself. He certainly had me chortling.
Question: if as the MSM states, media reforms are to place more power in the hands of government, then why is the MSM so vehement in their opposition?
As it seems that there is a very good chance of Abbott becoming prime minister, then WHY would Labor want to enable the Liberals to have even more influence over MSM than they already have?
It would seem that Senator Conroy is correct, it is not about government control as the MSM would have us believe but all about upholding existing standards.
What does this headline mean. What has it got to do with the body of the story. Have they got to get the impression of lying into all articles.
Fed up, couldn’t read the entire piece, but I imagine it’s full of vacuous nonsense if the header is anything to go by.
The mendacity of despair……
What on earth does that mean? Pompous, meaningless rubbish, written by a pompous meaningless Murdoch cipher.
Followed by more meaningless bullshit and then no doubt, hidden behind the paywall paragraph after paragraph of whiny crap about Conroy’s bill and how it’s a threat to the Meredoch press’ freedom to lie, smear and obfuscate about the government and push Liealot’s barrow.
Yes, behind thr paywall. What is “lying of despair”?
The following paragraph makes little sense as well.
Pompous, meaningless rubbish, written by a pompous meaningless Murdoch cipher.
It seems that rineharts ciphers are trying to out murdoch the man himself.
And an important member of the Labor Right faction, Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr, has told colleagues that he lost confidence in Ms Gillard some time ago.
Unfortunately, they have a way to go. When making up leadershit articles, you stick with ‘sauces’ , cos actually naming them means that you might get busted.
But Senator Carr sent out a statement less than two hours after the article was published online, saying it was wrong.
“An article in today’s Age and Sydney Morning Herald makes comment on the ALP leadership,” Mr Carr said in a statement early on Tuesday morning.
“The views attributed to me in this article are incorrect and no comment was sought from my office.”
Once again the MSM are found out blatantly lying, yet the government still refuses to bring in truth in media reforms, WHY.
David Etridge suing Abbott over slush fund affair in QLD Supreme Court 😀
Lets see how Abbotts cheer squad deals with this one 😀
Tom, I was just reading that one over morning coffee and thinking OMG, that doesn’t sound like “always the professional” Bob Carr. Thank you for pointing out the reason that it didn’t..it’s because it WASN’T. Presumably a HEADLINE retraction will now immediately follow.
The TV News bulletins this morning led with, “Senior Labor figures have lost faith in Gillard.” Carr was either mentioned or pictured.
Doesn’t matter that it was a lie to begin with the damage is done and Ltd News, whilst telling the Senate Enquiry it’s all about accuracy, gets away with yet another lie and another deceit.
the damage is done
Exactly, that is what it is always about with our media. Lie today, move on tomorrow with another one like nothing has happened. It reminds me of yomm and ian. Who knows, maybe they are employed?
This from yesterday. Who can keep up with all the lies anymore.
And there are those who state, why doesn’t the government do more to correct these lies. I suppose that the answer is that those with the biggest mouth gets believed.
BTW, there’s many more revealations in the UK re Murdoch and phone tapping Rupert has great respect for privacy. But be assured he only engages in that type of criminality in the UK. Here, he and his minions are pure as the driven snow.
Mr. Carr was very clear on the ABC radio this morning, that the whole story was a lie. Pointed out if anyone contacted him or his office, they wouod not been abole to run the story. That is, they did not do their job.
Listen to law professors talking about the media bills. The said there would be this outcry from the media, no matter what was put forwarded. They were clear, this is nothing about freedom of speech but holding the industry to account. There are many staturoy bodies set up for other reasons, rthat act indepenedency.
Frinskstein appearing before the hearing. ABC 24.
Sorry, spelt the name wrong Finkelstein
Wherever the PM has support of her causcus has not been canvassed, it is clear, they say she does not enjoy the support of all. We take i then that Mr. Abbott enjoys the support of all.
Bullocks, no leader enjoys the support of all.
Even Hitler and Chuchill had their detractors.
It is the way it should be. We elect a single MP to each electorate. Each is given a mandte to act on behalf os their constitutents. It is the collective vote, that enacts leglsiation.
News for the media, it is the majority that counts. One does not need or expect the support of all.
There are nut cases in all parties,
…………..Although Ms Gillard’s caucus support has not been canvassed seriously since the Rudd challenge, it is doubtful she now enjoys the confidence of the majority………………
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/ministers-desert-pm-20130318-2gbba.html#ixzz2NwmNkw3j
ABC 24. Finkelstein. There should be no group in society that has the right to do as they please. This appears to be the media’s whole case. They are above accountability. Is that really on.
Craig Thomson to hold PC in Canberra.
Denying the people of the Central Coast a vote.
I was just thinking, maybe the attempt to get through these media laws quickly has been a stroke of genius.
What has occurred. We have the issue right out in the public view. Thanks to the two government hearings, the public is being flooded with views from both sides. The action of the media, plus what has occurred, had made the public sit up a look.
The media have been forced to pull out all stops. If there was not that deadline, and was to be voted on during the budget session, the media wouls be able to slow burn the government.
The PM was asked yesterday, if she intended to take this policy to the elections. Her answer was, we will continue through his present process.
I would say, the PM will have built a strong case to take to the election.
What most that are saying “no”, is because the leglisation does ot go far enough. It appears the public agrees.
There is a Liberal who keeps asking, why if we have got through a century without regulation, why now?
The answer to thar is simple. One man has got control of 70%. Added to that is the likes of Rhinart and her ilk, seeking to control what is left.
That is why now.
Min, the lies are corrected all the time by Labor MP’s. It just does not get coverage, When it does, it is done with ridicule.
Where are the headlines today, that Abbott looks like ending up in court, in what could be a very serious case.
Mr. Christopher Berg is being torn apart by senator Cameron. Senate hearings.(IPA). Usual lies coming from the man.
On the back page next to the obituaries, I assume, Min.
Col @10.01am, another 800 people’s phones hacked, not just by NOTW. Other Meredoch print media up to their necks. And there is an Australian connection to Camillagate. The stench of corruption in the Meredochracy gets stronger every day.
Presumably a HEADLINE retraction will now immediately follow.
Either that, or the nightly news will run it as a major ‘story’ with Government ministers forced into an ‘uncomfortable defence’ or the PM.
The liars and manipulators win again.
I should add, to remove all doubt about my above comment, this is precisely how it was run on the 9 news tonight.
I think that Turnbull might be launching a fillerbuster within the house. He has been talking for ages. His performance could earn an academy award, so spirited and animated. .
One could believe he is back in court.
Turnbull still going. Now onto NBN, Seems to be searching for things to say. Did not know we could have filibusters. I thought they just fill the list up with as many speakers as they can get. Back to the bill.
We seem to be having what they do in the USA./
Stopped at last.
I see Torbay has dropped(?) out of contesting Windsors seat
The news comes after Nationals candidate Richard Torbay suddenly withdrew as the party’s candidate for the seat of New England.
Mr Torbay confirmed late on Tuesday night he was standing down and was seeking legal advice on speculation being made about his withdrawal by the Labor Party and the office of key independent Tony Windsor, who currently holds the seat.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/nationals-man-richard-torbay-quits-in-murky-circumstances/story-fncynjr2-1226600996759#ixzz2O1757EyV
Well, I haven’t actually seen any politician speculating, particularly when you read this from the same story.
Mr Windsor declined to comment on the resignation until he had more details. He was locked in a meeting on media reform.
Interesting that not a mention for the reason for Torbays dis-endorsement by the Nationals for this seat After all the ‘speculating over AWU, Slipper and Thom(p)son, why the sudden desire not to speculate? It couldn’t be due to his political alignment could it?
I’m all for protecting an individuals right to privacy, and the medias role in not insinuating things into that speculation, but considering the manner in which the previously mentioned three cases have been openly and often inaccurately ‘speculated’ over on the front pages for the past two years, the hypocrisy is astounding. And just another obvious reason why we need some sort of media action taken.
And Torbay is not the only conservative with links to Obeid Tom, with O’Farrell’s camp also entangled, something that is being kept very quiet indeed.
Another very good piece on the media in this country and the absolute need for reforms in that sector.
The Freedom To Make Things Up
something that is being kept very quiet indeed.
There is a lot being kept quiet at the moment ME. Pretty much everything except leadershit. The first two of six media reform bills being passed is all with a ‘despite Gillard’ attitude, then onto another leadershit.
There is so much going on that is wrong in the opposition camp, but the eye of mordor is implacably watching where it wants us to watch, not where the action is taking place.
Also, completely coincidental that leadershit has reached another crescendo in a newspoll week ….. again! Although, it is so constant now, it is hard to determine when it’s on or off.
ME @7.25am, thanks for the link to Mike Secombe’s piece. Very instructive indeed.
The link provided in his piece wrt the new legislation in Britain is also very instructive.
If I were the PM, I would be inclined to drop a few grenades in the opposition trenches, by agreeing that the current legislation isn’t good enough and advising that the government is considering scrapping the current legislation and adopting the UK legislation chapter and verse.
Now that would really give them something to squeal about. 😯
Tom R, can you smell the corruption in the air? i think Obeid won’t just be taking Labor down the tubes.
Lateline: Bob Geldof shutting Emma Alberici up, contradicting her on the effectiveness of the Occupy movement.
Abbott’s paper armour
Finally a balanced article from Tony Wright
If the media in this country were to do a fraction of their job in holding all major parties to account then Abbott and the opposition would collapse like a house of cards in a cyclone.
Says a lot about the lack of intelligence of the Abbott followers that they are more than comfortable with his paper thin policies, lack of policies, socialist agenda and undermining of democracy for the benefit of the very wealthy in this country.
Concerned about the environmental credentials of the lnp?
CSG Approvals Farce
Perhaps the lnp is only interested in furthering primary industries instead ?
On any measure over a long time now the LNP have never been better for rural areas than Labor, and that goes especially at the State level. You saw it under Kennett where he decimated the country areas and towns with a toady National Party in tow, and you are now seeing it with Newman.
Yet the rural constituency nearly always vote against their own benefit in choosing Liberals or Nationals, who are nothing more than Liberal arse-lickers, except when they see some sense and vote for an Independent.
Someone walking past would do it, ME.
And I suppose the clowns will still vote Liars, pterosaur1. I wonder how they’ll spin it as Labor’s or those commies, the Greens, fault?
Free Speech, Aussie style
Fairfax journalist sacked over critical Crikey article
Meanwhile, ltdnews, belatedly, gets a tap on the backside from the Press Council for MSU. Wonder when this will be reported by their papers?
The Council considered a complaint about a news article headed “PM Julia Gillard ‘slapped down’ at G20 summit by the President of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso” which appeared in the online version of The Daily Telegraph on 19 June 2012.
Tom, exactly and precisely. The Headlines should read: Today’s “opinion” sponsored by..the gambling industry – billionaire miners – the climate denialist industry – the superannuation/private health/private school and “other” industries.
Perhaps we could play a game..it’s called Spot the Sponsor.
Tom, on these sort of adjudications I’ve seen it before while a disability advocate, that by the time any sort of ruling is made, it is always too little and far too late. The piddling penalties plus the time that it takes to get these things to court means that the perpetrators have X time; months sometimes unto years to keep doing what they’re doing.
I find it more than a bit “iffy” (thanks Min :grin:) that the ABC, in its latest NBN story,
Turnbull unveils Coalition broadband policy
purports to examine the differences between the various policy offerings, somehow manages to ignore the articles by the ABC’s Nick Ross, which provides an exhaustive breakdown and evaluation of the NBN proposals on offer from the major parties
I wonder why not – particularly in considering that NR was paid by the ABC to write the articles? Which were/are available online at the ABC.website?
I would have thought a link to NR’s articles would have been appropriate, given the cursory treatment of the same subject matter in today’s report.
Could it be that the management doesn’t want “inconvenient truths” spread around too much?..
Lay down misere, pterosaur1.
I note that channel 10 is going broke at a faster rate (good one Lachlan) and blaming the wonderfully uplifting show “Being Lara Bingle”.
It’s just a matter of time before their ABC copies the show and I suggest “Being Latika Bourke”. The show would feature Latika doing a Donald Trump impersonation and going around saying “YOU’RE BLOCKED”
going around saying “YOU’RE BLOCKED”
Nice one lunalava. Also, what a great way for a tax-payer funded reporter to treat tax-payers, all because they point out ‘inconvenient truths’
Last night on The Project they interviewed John Lydon (Johnny Rotten), and Lydon went ballistic on Carrie Bickmore for interrupting him. The panel picked him up for his sexist behaviour, but forcefully denied that Bickmore had instigated the stoush by actually interrupting him. If you listen to the interview you can plainly hear Bickmore interrupting Lydon, and talking over him. She was very rude, and she refused to admit her wrongdoing. I have come to dislike Bickmore ever since she admitted a few weeks ago that she used to have a crush on John Howard!
I don’t think dirk and most of it’s troll brethren are actually real people – more like one of a number of “managed persona” probably, in it’s case by Bernardi et.al, on behalf of the lnp.
A bit far-fetched? Here’s a bit of HISTORY
George Monbiot HAS A BIT TO SAY too,
Emails obtained by political hackers from a US cyber-security firm called HBGary Federal suggest that a remarkable technological armoury is being deployed to drown out the voices of real people.
As the Daily Kos has reported, the emails show that:
• Companies now use “persona management software”, which multiplies the efforts of each astroturfer, creating the impression that there’s major support for what a corporation or government is trying to do.
• This software creates all the online furniture a real person would possess: a name, email accounts, web pages and social media. In other words, it automatically generates what look like authentic profiles, making it hard to tell the difference between a virtual robot and a real commentator.
• Fake accounts can be kept updated by automatically reposting or linking to content generated elsewhere, reinforcing the impression that the account holders are real and active.
• Human astroturfers can then be assigned these “pre-aged” accounts to create a back story, suggesting that they’ve been busy linking and retweeting for months. No one would suspect that they came onto the scene for the first time a moment ago, for the sole purpose of attacking an article on climate science or arguing against new controls on salt in junk food.
links didn’t copy here they are
and, George Monbiot HAS A BIT TO SAY
Did my ears just deceive me, or did I hear Hamish McDonald on Channel Ten’s Late News just say that parents who don’t get their kids vaccinated were not misinformed, but just held a different view? I mean, what the fuck?
Leigh Sales just saying “Well, all dream runs come to an end…”
I thought she was going to say the MSM was finally going to start asking Abbott some questions but it turns out she was talking about a horse.
I note that Chris Uhlmann has decided Chris Bowen will be the opposition leader when Abbott is elected. That would mean the Labor party in opposition for about ten years – a just outcome for all those Labor Party rats who constantly undermine the current Prime Minister.
a just outcome for all those Labor Party rats who constantly undermine the current Prime Minister.
It would be if it just affected them. Unfortunately,. Labor supporters will suffer to, or go …..?
Kicking them out of the party is what should be done. As to ulman himself; he is a fucking disgrace!
PVO however is a swinging journalist. Sometiumes he swings into doing actual journalism, but most times he just acts like hte rest, a paid for spiv.
How will he act here, like a journalist, or a spiv. Considering the amount of times he has closed this twitter account declaring NEVER to return, one can only hope that he keeps to his word on this
Tom, that is now even on news.com..
Is anyone surprised? What do people think that Windsor and Oakeshott copped..continuous threats, if not of physical violence but to ruin the person.
I’m impressed with it getting the coverage it is Min, even more the fact that abbott is apparently going to front the press.
We can expect a “night of the long knives,” but will it be literal or figurative?
Channel Seven morning news just ran an item on the “cut throat” comment. They also identified the staffer as director of policy Dr Mark Roberts.
Even the oo is reporting it silkworm, although with plenty of lipstick applied 😉
Tony Abbott’s director of policy Dr Mark Roberts has been counselled after he threatened the head of an Australian indigenous body with the loss of federal funding.
An eyewitness to the exchange, at last night’s Qantas gala dinner in Sydney, said Dr Roberts had behaved aggressively towards the chief executive of the non-profit organisation.
The Australian’s Peter van Onselen said he heard Dr Roberts say to the man “words to the effect of, `I’ll slit your throat in government, I’ll cut your funding’.”.
Van Onselen said there was “certainly no animosity” on the part of the organisation’s head, and he could not understand what had caused Dr Roberts to make the comments.
I can think of a reason – racism.
Andrew Penfold from the Australian Indigenous Education Foundation has been named as the person allegedly abused by a staff member from Tony Abbott’s office.
I suspect we will be quickly back to the days of Howard. That is all criticism of the govenment by NGO muzzled by not being allowed to speak out written into any contract of any grants given.
That means they will not be able to carry out their obligations, to work on behalf of the people their organization is set up to work for. .
Yes, true believers in free speech.
North Coast Voices reports that the Abbott family (wife and daughters) has spent $10,000 of Commonwealth money on transport in the last 6 months.
Can anyone tell me why Peter Slipper is facing court for spending a lesser amount on Cab charge.
I watched Abbott lament the fact that it would be difficult to sack Dr Roberts (the racist) because of the unfair dismissal laws – and they say Tony doesn’t have a sense of humor
I watched Abbott lament the fact that it would be difficult to sack Dr Roberts (the racist) because of the unfair dismissal laws
Even though this is demonstrably false, he is allowed to say it unchallenged by our media. PvO was aware of this when he said it to him, and let it go.
Gillard “FAILS” again
New South Wales has become the first state to sign up to the Gillard Government’s multi-billion dollar Gonski school funding plan, the ABC understands.
Recall those scribes the other day saying what a huge failure this Government is?
And they wonder why their ‘business case’ is broken. 😯
Julia the patient negotiator.
Julia the successful negotiator. 😉
What a pathetic drivel attempting to pass the blame for the media’s appalling political coverage back to the politicians themselves.
Ms Gillard hardly managed to sell for a day her execution of an agreement for which most Western world leaders would have given their eye teeth. Having explained it in no more than a press conference and a media release before boarding her media-free plane home, the matter faded from media and public conscientiousness with astonishing swiftness.
Let’s examine that a little closer now shall we, and look at the money quote
Having explained it in no more than a press conference
A press conference, where questions are able to be asked. But what questions were asked? If it goes on recent history, it would be either about Rudd or the polls. The ‘journo’ then goes on to complain that the press pack aren’t allowed on the plane with the pollies any more (since the Howard days).
Do you blame them? Imagine being trapped in a floating metal cigar for hours of nothing but poll questions?
No mr wright, the fact that the media in Australia didn’t spend almost any time reporting on such a monstrous achievement by the Government cannot be sheeted home to the PM not sharing her personal space with you lot of cockroaches for hours on end, it has everything to do with you lot preferring to play personalities rather than politics. The PM gave you a press conference and a press release, the fact that you didn’t ask any relevant questions is hardly her fault? We also have many other forms of communication these days, which were not available back then. Ask PvO, he got given an answer by the Prime Ministers Office twitter account about the ability to sack someone who was abusive in regards to their position, but appears to have ignored that advice when the shit hit the fan. Is the the PM’s fault too?
Fact is, our media have become a hollow shell of what it was. And it is not the fault of the internet or the ’24 hour’ news cycle. Journalists have always had ‘deadlines’. To examine your own problem, you need to dig below that shiny surface that simply reflects back any near by and pretty things, things like The Internet, but; well, that is the problem isn’t it. None of you know how to use a shovel any-more, do you? You think that transmitting these shiny objects is all that is needed, and the surface can remain unscratched. After all, who knows just what might lie underneath all that glazing?
Unfortunately for you lot, The Internet loves scratching that surface. The sooner you wake up to it, the better for all involved.
An example of the lack of ‘shovel-craft’
Credit to Emma Alberici on Lateline, catching Judith Sloan out telling porkies about Aust. economy.
Meet The Press this morning was hosted by Kath Robinson. Her special guest was Scott Morrison, and the entire programme was set up for Morrison to push the LNP’s poisonous immigration policy. Straight out of the box, Robinson set the tone by referring to asylum seekers who arrive by boat as “illegal immigrants.”
The PM is indeed gutsy for agreeing to the audience for tomorrow’s qanda.
She has opened herself up to questioning from young people, many who will be voting for the first time.
What’s more, the schools represented are across the board spectrum, from local high schools to private colleges. Should be an interesting show.
Also, the second NBNCo area opened up this week. That is Gosford and Western Sydney.
According to Conroy, there have been 54000 users signed up to NBN. The numbers much higher than expected.
There is also a discussion paper put out on betting during live shows. Conroy suggests that Tony reads it. That is a lot to ask of Tony, with his well known dislike of reading anything.
Have not seen much in the media this week, in regard to the Ashby leave to appeal case. Could it be, because it is not going Ashby’s way.
silkworm, surely there would also be a large number of people offended by that interview with Morriscum and Robinson’s gutless and ignorant labelling of asylum seekers as illegal immigrants.
Fed up, no-one should be surprised at the courage of the PM anymore. She shows more guts in her little finger than the entire Liars Party.
I hope there are questions about our treatment of asylum seekers to see if the PM has anything up her sleeve that she’s prepared to reveal.
I think she’s had enough of Ms Nice PM and is fired up and sticking it to the msm and barrackers. I’d love to see her delivering a decent serve to Anal. It’d be worth watching the collar getting tighter and tighter around that fat neck and watching that Jabba the Hut face turning puce!
Good news about NBN sign ups. Liealot and the barrackers won’t like it. Expect scaper to try putting his usual cynical,negative spin on it. Whinging about people accessing high speed internet, because he’s satisfied with dial up.
Typical hectoring Liars barracker; they’ll tell you what internet technology you can have and the manner and speed at which information is delivered to your computer.
On a recent ABC Media Watch program, it was revealed that Andrew Bolt had written to his good mate Mark Scott (Managing Director, ABC) recommending that he be appointed to host of the ABC Media Watch program.
Andrew was distressed that everyone at the ABC had a left wing media bias and he was needed to ‘redress this outrageous injustice’
Just a few quick points:
(1) everyone (even the proverbial Genghis Khan) is to the left of Andrew Bolt, but then again if the only tool you own is a hammer everything looks like a nail;
(2) What? your fabulous insights and commentary not going down so well at the soon to be bankrupt Channel 10;
(3) I agree Andrew, if you can’t cut it in the commercial world, it’s time to get back on the Government tit at the ABC. I guess that would make you just another public service bludger, you know, like the sort you usually to rubbish.
Mark, better wait until Abbott is elected before handing out the public service freebees.
A damning indictment on how much of a total and utter failure our media is in this country. And another glaring example of just why bias in media reporting is so wrong.
Is anyone really surprised? I’d suggest it’s not ignorance which is driving this crap, it’s political campaigning.
it’s political campaigning.
These days referred to as ‘reporting’ jane 😉
And the ‘reporting’ is divorced from any reality
Lunalava, Bolt on Media Watch! Tell him he’s dreaming. 😉
Listening to Hockey. A little frightening.
Going to sell Medibank Private.
Cutting back on NBN.
Is putting a little meat on Coalition promises.
Addressing Masters Builders Association.
Both Abbott and Hockey are taking up the 20,000 cut to public service in Canberra. Local ABC radio running with the story of “panic” selling in real estate market before 14 September.
I guess this means the Labor rat Gai Brockman might get re-elected, just glad I won’t be voting for her.
lunalava, @1.58pm, that should garner them a huge following in the Public Service. I wonder how many will race to vote against their own best interests? I guess there will be plenty of idiots that will.
Lunalava, when you are going to have few services then clearly you don’t need public servants…just a few people in empty office buildings to do the ripping and burning.
If you think that obtaining answers from government depts. is difficult under current staffing levels, wait until Abbott gets in..Telstra will seem like a model of efficiency by comparison.
For those who don’t think that speed makes much difference, try this site..it’s a simulation of downloading using the government’s NBN and Abbott’s NBN. (with thanks to Eddie Qld).
II would like to see qanda repeated next week. Everything exactly the same with Abbott in the hot seat.
Same kids, same restrictions on time to answer and the same setup.
Have banks ever passed on cuts in full so quickly.
😆 😆 😆 😆
Bacchus, we give freely.
Min, that demo is brilliant! It really shows what a load of rubbish Fraudband is.and how little the opposition thinks of the Australian public to palm this pig’s breakfast off on us.
Timeline of recent events:
1. the Gillard labor government moves up in the polls;
2. Rupert tweets the troops that they must not let Labor win (or you will be out of a job)
3. Rudd has a sudden “Road to Damascus” conversion on the subject of gay marriage;
4 Some of the more silly journos ask is leadership issue emerging?
Note Kevin has form on this type of behavior – he has done it three times in the past, as far as I can work out it must be out of pure spite.
Time for the Labor Chucky Doll to follow Craig Thomson and quit the ALP.
LL, there is some truth in what you write. The recent SBS doco on Murdoch told us that he was a heavy backer of Reagan, Thatcher, Howard and, yes, Rudd. It’s entirely possible that Murdoch was pissed that Rudd got overthrown, and has been using Rudd ever since to undermine Gillard, and may even be party to Rudd’s “conversion” to marriage equality. Maybe.
It’s more likely, in my opinion, that Rudd is suffering from relevance deprivation syndrome, and is trying to big-note himself, but not necessarily to undermine Gillard. In any event, his recent “conversion” to marriage equality undermines Abbott rather than Gillard. As much as the media might try to spin this against Gillard for her being against marriage equality, everyone knows that it is Abbott who is holding up the works by making the entire coalition bow down to his own religious beliefs on the matter.
I read that Abbott prays every day to GOD that he will be Prime Minister.
Tony! the Catholic way is to lie, cheat, steal and do what ever deal it takes to grasp the power, then pray for forgiveness. You have had so much Catholic training, how could you overlook the basic tenets.
Tony Abbott is facing internal pressure from Victorian Liberals to privatise the ABC and SBS if he wins the September 14 election amid claims both organisations are struggling to comply with their charters.
State Liberals have launched a push ahead of the election to sell the public broadcasters, arguing the funds raised should be used to pay off government debt.
The privatization of the ABC is an issue for the Federal government. What business is it of a state government to be advocating this? Obviously the Victorian state government is attempting to do a political favour for the Federal Opposition.
Although Tony Abbott has denied that this is part of his plan, it is one of the 75 policy positions of the IPA.
I always enjoy irony. So the Victorian government wants to get rid of the ABC.
For the record, I agree.
I also agree with Andrew Bolt (OMG).
The Internet is what a 1930 government could only dreamed of for “broadcasting”.
It is a dodo.
The Left thinks the ABC is dominated by the Right while the Right thinks the ABC is dominated by the Left. Gillard could threaten to abolish the ABC and it could garner widespread support across the political spectrum.
Can we have some truth from Abbott and the media, re the asbestos scare.
I see Abbott is out once again saying their NBN will not need to pits dug up. A big as lie, as when he says the footpaths are being dug up. Is not true.
Telstra has for years have sub contractors digging out those pits. If there is great danger, I wonder how many have been harmed in the past.
Yes, the work has been done for many years.
Letter from todays Telegraph from Doug Sims of the Central Coast backs up what I have said.
The comment above fits in what I have been told by others that have done the work. It appears that Telstra has paid the same amount to SC for at least seven years. To same money, short cuts are made. It is time to Telstra to change their habits of getting the job done for the lowest cost, and stop ripping off workers.
As for Mr. Abbott, he should be condemned for unnecessarily scaring people living in the area.
Yes, Neil, the behaviour of Mr. Abbott, is indeed immoral.
I fear more for the workers, doing the job, than those living around.
The media is trying hard to put the blame on the government.This in spite o the Telstra head saying they have been dealing with the problem for over forty years, and is their problem.
ABC24. The question I would like asked, how many times has this happened in the past?
First question from Abbott. Govt should spend the 50 million on ads, making the pits safe. PM correct in saying playing politics with this topic is disgraceful.
The Opposition is keeping up the onslaught. I do not believe it. They must be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Telstra have been working with these pits for forty years. Yes,the work did not start with NBNCo.
Shorten is correct. Telstra made it clear at the PC, that all responsibility is theirs.
Speaker already had enough of Pyne,
Question still on the pits. Pyne jumps up before Shorten says three words out, demanding he answers the question.
Turnbull is a poor actor.
Tabling letter to Telstra, 27th March.
This questioning is ridiculous.
Another question on Telstra.
How will the government protect the people. Question already answered.
Cannot they drop prepared questions, when circumstance change.
Turnbull back again. Still trying to put blame on government. Remember, it is Telstra doing this work. Their pits and ducts.
Another stupid and misleading question.
All Question well and truly answered.
Turnbull back again.
Why in the hell would Shorten concern himself with asbestos, when it was Telstra doing the work. Telstra owns the pits and ducts. They are Telstra’s sub contractors. Telstra has been dealing with the problem for over forty years. It is Telstra’s responsibility to ensure the pits and ducts are safe.
The head of Telstra has just said so, at a PC.
Another asbestos question. Just as stupid. It is Telstra that is removing the asbestos removing the asbestos, not NBNCo.
Abbott, now on our borders. PM
PM thanks Abbott and points out a quick change of topic. I suspect this is not a good choice for Abbott.
Yes, it was bad choice on Abbott’s place. Attack against Bishop. One does not lie about having secret agreements with our neighbors.
Abbott’s question open the door for Dorothy dixer, Labor. Question to Emerson, allows him full attack.
Now Morrison, minister for Cook. Do not believe it, he is back on the red note and Egyptian.
Do not they listen to the media, to get the correct story.
Another stunt, moved Morrison. Convicted terrorist,, in a country with a dictator that was deposed. Conviction overturned. Was one of hundreds. All the information Morrison is giving is far from the truth.
There is one conviction left, but one of belonging to an organization. He was convicted in absentia, along with hundred for protesting.
Problem for Labor, is that they have not the right to use the information they have to put up an argument.
This is gutter politics in the extreme. Sadly it might work.
Never heard Morrison speak so fast. Setting up inquiry. Stunt at this time, as results will not be available before election.
Once again saying he has been convicted of crimes. Nothing about the convictions being overturned.
PC Shorten and Conroy. Asbestos. I think Shorten might feel a little insulted, that he does not take asbestos seriously. Do not blame him.
I wonder if there was so much outsourcing to contractors and sub contractors, and more permanent work force, that is outrage would never
It is not only the work outsourced, but it seems all responsibility and oversight of safety issues.
Conroy has just ask a reporter, whether they
ever read the papers or not. Pointed out, in the past, NBNco has allotted one million dollars to rehabilitate the pits etc.
Listening to Turnbull ABC 24. One lie after another.
I would suspect, once the fibre is pulled through, the ducts will remain undisturbed for ever more. It is known, that somewhere down the track, not that far off, the fibre will need to be taken to the premise.
It is wrong to use what has occurred with Telstra, to stir up fear, purely for political gain. That is what the Opposition is doing.
Telstra is using the same contractors and same methods for years. How do we know, this has not happened in the past. It would be hard to believe it hot to have.
Telstra is doing the work. Telstra is taking full responsibility. Shorten had three letters from Telstra, saying they had the matter under control.
Those letters that Shorten tabled tabled, does not show Telstra in a good light.
Shorten raised the issue, in saying some where having trouble with asbestos in the pits, back in 2009.
Shorten was told three times, they had matter in hand, It obviously was not true.
Can one believe what Telstra says?
More lies from Newman wrt Gonski.
A little humour at the expense of the bishop twins. 😆
Liealot’s true colours wrt asbestos compo. Telstra wanted to fast track compensation arrangements for employees exposed to asbestos in 2001, but were rebuffed by the then minister for Workplace Relations. Guess who that was?
Howard knew about the asbestos in the pits in September 2005 and that means Turnbull also would have known along with Bishop. More Liars Party lies and hypocrisy exposed.
Amazing that some here proudly say they intend to vote for this mob of liars & hypocrites.
The MSM is really hammering Labor with the news about the latest polls. Murdoch has set the agenda. It is to demoralize Labor and its supporters in the leadup to September.
It actually began in earnest two weeks ago, when I heard Hugh Rimington, then Laurie Oakes, then Dave Hughes, and then Waheed Ali all deliver the message about the inevitability of Abbott as PM.
For all who were astounded by Julie Bishop’s failed attempt at Foreign Affairs, I have just posted to “Said the Bishop to the Indonesians.” 😀
More sensational allegations against the wizened foreigner. This is the creature whose hand is up Liealot’s backside flapping his jaws. Just who will people who vote 1 Liars be putting in power and are they aware that is the case?
More importantly, do they have the wit to care what sort of government they will get?
Union bashers can say what they like, but unions are comprised of ordinary working people, not corrupt power crazed billionaires.
Are we really to believe, this little box made of fibro,, cannot be lifted safely out of the ground and dealt with elsewhere.
Come on their must be some inventors out there. There is a fortune to be made.
I believe an attachment on front of a digger or scoop, with an attachment,
One wonders about conspiracy theorems in relation to the LNPMSM’s purported manipulative media bias and how such a situ’ could have possibly evolved????
Surely it’s not possible that in this land of the fair-go that there could be some form of undemocratic collusion between the ‘Free Press’, the ‘big’ end of town and Tony Abbott ‘n Co…… 🙄
Here’s a video…..draw your own conclusions (cue Twilight Zone muzak) 😀
Craig Emerson wants Bishop J referred to the Standards Committee for misleading parliament wrt verballing Indonesian authorities about towing back the boats. if you ask me, the whole lot should be up before the headmaster/mistress for a dose of the cuts.
The Asbestos Foundation supports Oakeshott’s criticism of Liars politicisation of asbestos issue.
Jane, it is worse than lying. The fear they are stirring up in those people is real. We have one family that has already lost a family member to Asbestoses.
Turnbull was still hard at it tonight.
Experts have been on all day, saying that there is ;little or no chance of the public coming to harm. The risk to the workers is negligible.
What we are talking about is fibro, Yes, can be dangerous, but in this environment, unlikely to cause harm.
It is not asbestos in the natural state we are talking about. At first, with all the scare talk, I thought the pits must have been lined with pure asbestos.
The second lie, that Turnbull is pushing, is that these pits would not be open, only for NBNCo. The third is, that they would also be doing similar under their mini scheme.
What ever danger there is, can be easily managed.
What I do not understand, why the Opposition feels they have to go down this track, if they are so far out in front.
We have to manufactured and false scare campaigns this week.
The pits and ducts, and the convicted terrorist, who had all convictions overturned. A Interpol red noticed that was not acted on. Convictions. along with hundreds of people, in absentia, under a depose dictator, does not carry much weigh, in most eyes..
The latter is more disgraceful, because they come under national security, and it is impossible for the government to defend the allegations made by the Opposition.
If the Coalition is so far out in front, why the need for gutter politics.
If employers are doing the right thing, what is wrong with this action?
Silkworm, the Murdoch media is going full bore (pun intended) because they know that closer to the election the LNP and Abbott are going to have to open their mouths and present themselves as an alternative government rather than *an opposition*.
Abbott said eons ago that the Opposition’s job is to oppose – heartily disagreed with of course by yours truly who believes that every elected representative whether in government or not has the job of doing their best for the country. However, let’s say “job done”, Tony Abbott has opposed..right-o, yep, we’ve got that one, you’ve opposed..but now show us the goods…
Min @9.13am, the reason that the Liars are behaving this way is they want to hop back on the gravy train they’d manufactured for themselves during the Howard years. That and their born to rule mentality.
They’re going to be very disappointed, because the world has changed radically since 2007, a fact they consistently refuse to acknowledge. The gravy train was derailed by the GFC & its wreckage is lying at the bottom of a chasm.
They can’t show any “goods”, because they have none, just FUD, smear, projection & lies.
Mr. Swan is now announcing more good news on the economy.
Mr. Swan recant a article he has just read. It appears the writer was claiming that the price on carbon and the MRRT were not a part of the Henry review.
He reminded the reporters , that both arose from recommendations of the Henry reviews.
Garrett is to give PC 15 minutes. Wonder will he comment on Pyne and his accusation of the government intent to means test money paid to private schools.
More inconvenient facts.
Hockey now on, once again talking down the economy. It appears that improvement in nett exports is bad. Once again on debt.
Talking about Swan’s refusal to increase debt cap. It appears it might be broken sometime in the next twelve months. Why the rush. Everything will be fixed by one simple action. Get rid of the none existent carbon tax.
Please do not vote this mob in.
Dwyer complaining about debate on education being gagged. Maybe she looks at the disgraceful behaviour of Pyne that bought this about. Once again making allegations that the bill will be means testing parents of private school kids. Never heard them debate the bills.
Another getting up.
All I heard was abuse, from the Opposition. Abuse of the speakers.
Believe we are in for a noisy QT.
First question on debts. Diversion from the reasonably good economic figures today.
Swan welcoming questions on the economy. Expect a MSO on the gagging of the education debate.
Hockey only one asking questions. Suspect today’s task is to talk down the economy.
Swan doing good. Challenging the ongoing lies.
Yes, another scare campaign under way. By the Opposition, not the government.
My summary of media coverage for the last week.
(1) Opposition runs with asbestos is bad; NBN is bad; Gillard is to blame, see we told you they should have done a cost benefit analysis (special assist here by ABC 7.30 report).
(2) Pyne’s silly stunt on no confidence motion was a dud, oh well they have lots more stunts where that came from;
(3) Greg Combet at the press club delivers a devastating blow to opposition showing just how bad their environmental policy would be – no significant media coverage;
(4) The Labor rat brigade (Rudd and Fitzgibbon) show how they can grab attention just by using the media stunt entry door into parliament (see ‘we told you so’ being the “message”);
(5) Doug Cameron is verballed by the ABC using a cut and past from his interview. He should know better and Gillard has done nothing about the ABC so she can expect nothing better;
(6) Swan gave an interesting interview constantly referring to a “chart”. The ABC did not have the technical skill to show us the “chart” so much of the interview content was lost. Presentation skills are not rocket surgery, perhaps Swan should ask the Member for North Sydney how to use a “prop”
(7) AFP now an active player in trying to bring down the government. First the Christmas Island ‘cook up’, now the leak on an Egyptian terrorist.
(8) Fran Kelly in her ABC interview with the Mirabella now both asks and answers questions – they are both so multi-skilled;
Oh well back to my hobbies.
Alittle truth goes a long
“Claims that ‘a convicted murderer’ has been held in low security immigration facilities are simply not true. This asylum seeker has never been convicted of murder or any specific terrorism charges. That much is clear from transcripts of the original trial. The only charge that is still outstanding against him is that he was a member of a jihadist organisation, and that charge is the subject of appeal.
“Amnesty and other human rights organizations condemned the conduct of the trial when it occurred in 1999. And have continued to condemn it. Since the fall of the Mubarak dictatorship, many of those wrongly convicted in the 1999 trial have been acquitted,” said Rintoul………..
A little truth would be nice.
Fact one. This man has not committed any crimes in this country.
Fact two. He has not been in the community at any time.
Fact three. The authorities it appears, only sent one note to immigration. Did not have enough concerns to follow up, when note not acknowledged.
Fact four. Man moved into higher security, when it became a political matter.
Fact five. We do not know the details of this man’s history, as it is a matter of security, and such knowledge is not released
Fact six. Opposition claims the man has not been assessed. Surely if such a danger, ASIO would have continued investigations,
The last, who fed the Opposition the alleged information?
It appears that our security departments are suspect as far as the Opposition is concerned, along with Taxation, Treasury and Reserve bank. It appears that this Opposition does not trust any government department. They know better than all experts.
Yes, vendetta against most government departments. Hockey at this moment railing against giving the ATO more power.
Poodle Pyne, they call him around Parliament, and it’s an epithet which captures well his effete demeanour.http://enpassant.com.au/2013/06/05/scott-morrison-should-stop-the-terrorism-witch-hunt/
I wait eagerly for the reaction of Mr. Morrison, when he is invited by that inquiry, to front and tell them what he knows. Then when he is asked, were did his information come from.
Morrison, I believe badly over reached in QT. Could not help himself. Most are moving away from convicted terrorist, that is still under Interpol Red Notice. If so, why has not ASIO acted.
The younger Bishop, I suspect, will also be asked to explain much.
Laurence Springborg exposes Liars’ plans to privatise Qld hospitals. Another promise broken by Newman.
BTW, Prissy has just acquired a lovely new very fitting nickname-PorktPyne. Ya gotta love it.
So the Government’s NBN is popular, and is meeting it’s roll out targets. The Liberal Party needs to act, Let’s whip up a good old asbestos scare, well the ABC is on board, so this story:
Note, it’s from the good old “anonymous source” and it has no byline (I guess Liberal Party HQ would be a bit too obvious).
This is just what the Libs did with “Pink Batts”. The ABC has been told countless times that the asbestos is a Telstra responsibility but they insist on linking it to the NBN name.
A better story would be about how the Howard government did nothing to disclose the problem prior to the sale of Testra.
Now the ABC should look at how a fair dinkum news outfit does the asbestos story:
lunalava, note in that story the amount of times NBN is mentioned in comparison to Telstra, the company who is actually responsible for this issue
It also brings into question, just how long have these unsafe practices been going on, as alluded to in your link to an actual news story, rather than one that just flirts around the edges, dropping the ‘bad NBN’ meme as it goes?
Repeat Combet NPC ABC 24
After watching the ABC Insiders today I finally worked out Rudd’s game plan:
(1) distance himself from the loss (it really was not my fault);
(2) shape the Labor party in his own image after the election;
(3) ensure that Labor never again strays too far from the real powers controlling Australia (Murdoch and a few very wealthy miners);
Gillard’s biggest mistake was believing a few Labor rats would do the right thing by supporting Labor policy. Howard and Abbott know how to get revenge on those that dare to disagree with them.
Lunalava June 8 on Asbestos, you may like to read this at northcoastvoices
The West Australian 100 jobs to go.
Well, Well, Well (three holes in the ground).
Just watched Uhlmann and Fitzgibbon on the ABC 7.30 report.
What, no more condescending jokes from Fitzgibbon?
Uhlmann could not even face the camera.
Maybe someone pointed out to the Chief Labor Rat that he holds his safe Labor seat at the sufferance of the Labor Party. After all he has hardly been a star performer in any role except withering criticism of his colleagues.
I believe Uhlmann getting out of Canberra is also a first – they say travel broadens the mind.
I say the fool that’s sent to roam, excels the fool who stays at home (but not by much).
lunalava 8.085pm 11/6, I wonder if someone’s also had a word about preselection in Fitzgibbon’s ear?
So my take on the media this week is that the election is now a three way contest between LNP coalition, Gillard Labor government and KRudd and supporters.
Has no one in the KRudd camp realised that he could not win if given the job. No one understands that the Liberals are delighted by leadership speculation. Given their empty policy cupboard it is their best hope.
I have watched Gillard begin to rise in the polls and every time, KRudd and his media team bring up the leadership issue. It has happened at least four times during the life of this government.
Of course “Mr Nice Guy Kev” has the line that he will not challenge for the leadership.
Well an extended period in opposition is a chance to reform the party but it will not happen because most of the Labor rats like Fitzgibbon have safe seats.
Why? So much has happened this week. Much of it important. Why are we stiol getting Rudd, and the push to depose a female PM.
Cheryl Kernot made a point this morning, that Rudd and his blokes are making a big mistake, if they believe there will not be a backlash from progressive women, if they depose a woman PM.
In all the chatter from the media, nowhere is there any concern or recognition of how half the community might react. All we hear, is the views of men.
If we women do not like it, tough, this is the way it is, and going to be.
PS. I see poll numbers are going down for Rudd. Does that mean the people of western Sydney do not like what they see. When one looks behind Rudd, the media pack and a few props, to the many walking behind, not even bothering ti turn their heads, is this a surprise. noise from the media of Rudd being mobbed, when accompany video does not back up the assertion.
Why are the media allowing themselves to be used, by Rudd and his handful of blokes.
Yes, PM very clever, in encouraging and assisting him to be out in front, on the campaign trail.
Yes, even the media say they are a part of the problem. Why does the public let themselves be conned?
I wonder what the spinsiders have in store for us tomorrow. Cassidy has been quiet since the menugate exploded into the headlines.
Putting a bottle of Dom on ice just in case.
June 15, 2013 @ 11:56 am
No way could you call Abbott hearty
In fact each of the Libs is a smarty
And behind their façade
No female regard
From this cynical Misogynist Party.
Drooling messages so“Crystal Clear”
While grimacing from ear to ear
This Misogynist Lib
Licks his lip with each fib
Abbott’s agenda is something to fear
Don’t believe if you want to be free
All the bullshit from the LNP
They continually use
To discredit and abuse
Aussies open your eyes and you’ll see.
CU, you must be choofed to have a thread at the gutter mentioning you.
Gee, the demented spineless person that has a thang for toilet sniffing wants a thread mentioning little ole me. Oh, to be so popular on a backwater blog is surely worth a sentence in the memoirs!
scaper. the gutter would have nothing to discuss, if they did not have me. Glad to be used by them, in keep their site going.
I am glad to see my message spread, far and wide.
Scaper, one can be sure of what they write, that I do no longer visit, even to have a laugh.
scaper, when one spends the day in the gutter, they should ensure they have a long hot shower, before coming back to the company of decent people.
FU, the only ones pushing a ruddstoration is newspoll.
It is clockwork melange
scaper. just read the AWU article, not just the headlines. It appears that Paul Howes still supports the PM. Paul is saying, what is a fact of life today,what is a fact of life, MP’s are free to vote as they see fit.
One should be careful, not take as gospel, what they read on other sites. Good idea, to go and read full article.
Shop and Allied, also still support the PM.
scaper, you do know, the PM is Julia Gillard.
Thought I would remind you, as the PM is never acknowledge by this by the Opposition media.
All we hear, is ” she her Juliar and sometimes Julia”.
Have not mentioned all the other sexist and demeaning terms that are used.
Never PM or even Gillard.
Nice slap down of our media’s failing
This is why watching Newsroom is so sad. I’m watching a hypothetical scenario of how things could, in a decent world, work. But you, the mainstream media in Australia, do not belong to this world. So this world remains an unattainable fantasy.
Tom, there are many journalist starting to say it as it is. Not getting wide coverage. Kathryn Murphy is another. Not saying she supports the PM, she does not. But is calling the spin for what it is,
I have no problem with criticism of the PM. None whatever.
Id have problems with nothing but criticism, and no acknowledgement not of the many successes.
I have problems with whatever the PM says. as being portrayer as failures. Like that speech on Sunday, being about abortion. It was not.
I have problems with what is nothing more than lies, being given as facts.
PM now on ABC 24., When did politics become a 24/7 job.
One has to admire the energy of this woman. Never comes across as tired. Seems to relish the fight.
More investment for the future.
scaper, can I rely on you to let me know, when that other place agrees with me.
This would concern me, as I suspect I would have got something wrong, seriously wrong.
PM has just told a reporter, to pick up the paper and read the story. Yes, go pass headlines.
PM has just told a reporter, to pick up the paper and read the story
lol. A reporter, forced to actually read the bile they produce. How amusement
Here’s the story FU 😉
The oo making shit up again.
I just went to their site, and they are in leadershit overdrive. In addition to the above crap, this is their main leads
PAUL KELLY: Julia struggles as ALP looks at Rudd
DENNIS SHANAHAN: PM goes or party’s over
PETER VAN ONSELEN: Poll rise is cold comfort
CHRIS KENNY: Intentions beyond anyone’s grasp
Who would pay for this crud?
The PM has just given a long PC, introducing investments for the future. The PM answered all put to her.
Once again they choose to ignore fact for the rumour mill. Did not even bother, to point out the PM answers to the rumours.
Tom, was watching. Is it me that has a problem. Every time, I make the effort to watch the PM, I do not see what the media reports.
I see a very strong and direct woman. I see a woman of very strong convictions.
Must say, I am confused.
Same when I tune into Rudd’s journeys out west, I do not see the mobs they are talking about.
Tom, do you think I might have problems with my eyes. I cannot seem to see what others do..
Tom, I also read headlines, then I sneak in behind that paywall, only to find, the headlines have naught to do with what is written, in the body of the story.
Shock jock Howard Sattler’s gay jibe shows disrespecting Prime Minister Julia Gillard is now a national sport
I cannot seem to see what others do..
We all do FU ;). it is apparently the media’s job to re-align our lenses for us to better understand their perspective (world -view)
Fed up, I think it’s more that the msm chooses to follow Rudd around, even though he is a bit of a show pony.
Why are the media allowing themselves to be used, by Rudd and his handful of blokes.
This little exchange may shine a light on that 😉
Meanwhile, our journos know too well who the REAL culprit is when it comes to sexism
Meanwhile Gillard has caused controversy after well known Perth shock jock Howard Sattler asked her in an interview whether her partner Tim Mathieson is gay.
Yes, that’s the way, blame the victim 😯
And, meanwhile, all you meanie lefties leave poor akers alone, just because he said something he refuses to acknowledge or repeat.
I have never made any suggestions Mathieson’s sexuality. I don’t deal in tawdry topics.\
Well, in case his memory needs a jolt.
Would it be so hard just to say “I’m Sorry”
As Cassidy said to Piers yesterday, you will have fun defending that stance, or words to that effect. Appears Cassidy is correct for once.
Must say, the MSM, especially the ABC have worked very hard for this result.
This I lodged on another site. I know many herre read both.
“bushfirebill. do not despair. Us women know there are many of your type, or at least the dentist you described out there.
Many of us women know this, because it was people like you that helped when some of us were trapped by those low life minority of men,
The secret for salvation, lies in the words of that defence head, and his strong speech, that was lost in the noise coming from the media, in their final fling to get rid of a pretty food PM.
All he said, or words to the effect, hat to walk past such behavior, is to say you are in agreement.
bushfirebill, maybe that is the conversation, you and decent men need to have at the pub.
The PM has had the guts to do what is correct for the country, knowing full well that there would be a backlash. Maybe we all need to have the same guts, and get ii behind her.
Even this morning, we are getting dire warnings, that the dangers from carbon emissions is not a problem for the future, but is here. What’s more, we only have to the end of the decade. Yes, the PM had the guts to go ahead with the mechanism to addressed the problem.
The biggest condemnation of the PM has been that she has proceeded with policy, regardless of the public outrage, this being seen as lacking politician judgment.
When one looks at each of the policies, all are considered what is needed.
Yes, the PM has shown courage to change her stance, when circumstance es change.
Maybe the PM is naive in her belief, that in the long run, it will be results that matter.
I believe those 24% sitting on the fence might just come to that belief as well.”
When circumstances change? What circumstances would those be? Please don’t tell me you’re one of those who think Gillard has introduced a carbon tax!
AG and Electoral officers on, in an attempt to get the young to enroll. I urge all to encourage any young person to enroll.. Maybe tempt them with the suggestion, if they want s] the fast broadband for those games, they better get in behind our female PM, as it will be a distant dream under Abbott.
I believe that will be enough for most.
I believe the PM set up a office to conduct debates between leaders, as a condition of gaining support of the Independents. It was seen that three debates would occur, with the body setting the rules.
It appears that Abbott is running away from the debates. Is one surprised.
No, I do not believe we have an carbon tax. In fact I know we have not have one.
The PM never said she would not bring in this legalization, in fact she said, she would be addressing the issue of carbon emissions.
At the time, Abbot voiced a comment, why not just have a carbon tax. What was being discussed, was the difference between a straight tax, and a cost on carbon emissions. .
No, I was thinking more of the actions the treasurer and PM took in relation to not proceed with fiscal consolidation, they had been applying, and to accept a budget deficit,
The other, I wished did not happen, was to go along with Abbott, in relation to asylum seekers. Yes, Abbott’s policy is in place. It does not work. The shame is, we cannot say the same about the Heuston Plan, as it has not been given a chance.
I am not sure, that PM still has not got something up her sleeve in this regard, but timer is running out.
I am sure there will be much said by the Opposition on this subject of asylum seekers today. Then, they might just be stupid enough to go down the track, as Abbott did this morning, accusing the PM of dividing the Nation.
Australia’s net debt.
Not really a Media outlet at this point, but have been keeping an eye on AIMN of late for a reason.
The place seems to be a mirror image to here and lacks any real reporting. Another thing I’ve observed is there seems to be a lack of dissenting posters there which gives the impression by readers that it is somewhat an echo chamber.
Is an alternative view lead to a ban? Gee, just looked at the last post there a few minutes ago and someone called CMMC wrote “Go fuck yourself.” Nice intelligent bit of abuse that is! Has he got a copyright on that like TB has on his favourite profanity?
Don’t understand why that place was opened at all, as I said…mirror image.
Oh, the intelligent abuse in question.
ABC is now reporting that Defence is to investigate 2500 allegations of sexual misconduct. I recall Abbott and his mates ripping into the Minister for Defence for casting aspersions on our noble warriors.
Just like his writing a reference for a pedophile priest and his dismissal of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.
Failing to act on cory bernardi who just keeps repeating his homophobic utterances.
There is a pattern of behaviour here from Abbott and his mates and it says a lot about his values and judgement.
This says a lot too lunalava
The Guardian Australia online has pushed the Australian online out of the top ten.
Leigh Sales is getting worse. Watch how aggressive she is towards Craig Emerson on tonight’s 7.30 Report. I counted at least five interruptions by her. She just would not let him speak about Labor policy. Watch also Emerson’s knock out punch to her right at the end.
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I’ll interpret this like a Journalist
Mr Rudd ruled out a challenge to Prime Minister Julia Gillard while speaking to Channel 7’s Sunrise program this morning.
Can we put a sweep on for when the next leadershit story arises
My moneys on later today 😉
Laughable, the above story is now under the headline on theirabc’s front page as
Rudd says voters have had ‘gutful’ of Labor split
Actually, liberal staff writers, that should read
Rudd says voters have had ‘gutful’ of leadershit beatup by journo’s
I win the sweeps 🙂
Use of the word “believe” in today’s statement seems to indicate if events were to change the former prime minister could be open to returning to his old job.
After the first skype scandal at ADFA, a number of Liberals called upon the Minister for Defence to apologise to the ADFA commandant.
Obviously the Commandant did nothing to change the culture at ADFA. Now with the latest scandal perhaps he should apologise before handing in his resignation.
The media has lost it completely when we have the Age Editorial saying that the PM should use next week to step dawn and hand over to to Mr. Rudd.
The say this needs to happen to allow discussion on Mr. Abbott’s policies.
First, what policies, I have only seen aspirational brain farts.
The second is, why cannot they now comment on what Abbott is doing and saying.
The media has made the choice to continue with there campaign to depose of a PM. not the public.
Mr. Editor of the Age, it is time that you begin to do your job, that of reporting the news.
You got that wrong. The AGE is in love with the ALP. The Age does not want Labor to lose the election. And The Age thinks that Labors best prospect is having Rudd as leader.
It is not an anti Gillard editorial but a pro Labor editorial.
Where was this in the media. The fifth estate finds the space to report such events. Why cannot the fourth.
In fact we find the time and space to discuss and debate all the fourth cannot.
Maybe the Age editor needs to develop the skills of this Labor government. They can still get on with the business of governing, while dealing daily with the rubbish, the likes of the editor of the Age serves up every day.
Mr. Abbott, also seem to lack the ability to do more than one thing as well. He seems on to be able to manage to put the boot into the PM each day. Has not been able to carry out other duties of an Opposition leader, such as debating policies of either side.
Mr Abbott’s questions within the house and stunts outside it, reveal that Mr. Abbott has poor knowledge of the what the government has done,. let alone intends to do.
Listening to Lateline last night, much of what Abbott aspire to for the north, is a;ready occurring.
Such bodies, such as the CSIRO are already researching into what can be developed in the north.
The trouble with this PM, is that she does not appear to be good at blowing her own trumpet. To busy getting on with the job, in a quiet, orderly manner./
If she cannot, maybe it is time for us to blow it for her.
First does one really believe that the PM has ignored the regional solution for the last twelves months, doing nothing.
It would be completely put of character, if that was so. For the Opposition to under estimate her, just shows their stupidity.
Maybe the PM is lousy at playing politics and curring favour with the media. Is that necessary a bad thing.
Does not seem to put weigh on being on the phone to editors day and night.
That alone is a good enough reason for keeping her.
Also Gillard is under Police investigation. Not a good look during an election campaign.
Neil, are you for real?
Up to now, I have had some sympathy for you. Sorry, no longer.
You are either a fake, or have some psychological problems. Personally, could not care which.
If you cannot see what is wrong with that Age editorial, one should feel for you.
Neil, who says so. One man, obsessed with the story, a story that none of the media is picking up. I would place my bets on Blewitt being the one in the firing line. His signature is on ail documents.
Neil, when one goes back to this point in any debate, it shows that you and the MSM have nothing on the PM.
By the way, it is Abbott that has to appear before the courts, not the PM.
Eight Victoria fraud squad detectives are investigating Gillard
“The unmistakable fact is that Victorian police have been investigating every aspect of this complex affair, including the role that Ms Gillard played – as a lawyer – in providing legal advice to Wilson and Blewitt.”
Hmmm – Steve “Utegate” “Ashbygate” Lewis. Why is my BS detector going beserk? 🙄
Steve Lewis wouldn’t know a fact if it bit him on the @#$e… As usual, making $#!t up…
Well how about Hedley Thomas?
A must read
Steve Lewis article is old news, which none of the media has picked up. Wonder why?
Fordham and Thomas have both been part of the relentless AWU smear campaign, especially Thomas. They may be right, but it would be the first time since they began this vendetta 🙄
Editor-in-chief Andrew Holden says the editorial was published with great reluctance.He says usually it is better for the Prime Minister to be chosen by the people, but the current situation is exceptional.
The editor in chief should have taken a littler longer to think about it. It is not the PM and ministers that are asking the questions or raising Rudd’s name. It is the media. I suspect the public could not care less.
We have been told by the likes of Leigh and others, the public only want to hear about the leadership question. Where is the evidence for such a statement?
This made my day.
A bunch of journalists jumped onto a Moscow-Havana flight getting wind that Snowdon was aboard.
They are now stuck on the flight to Cuba with an empty seat where Snowdon was supposed to be sitting.
Just watching Peter Garret say goodbye. There is the future of the Labor Party, Krudd pissing away talent and replacing it with the likes of Bowen. Why? fucked if I know, perhaps Garrett is not a Christian
Garrett is very Christian.
Fed up @4.52pm since when was a Prime Minister ever chosen by the people.. This is not America, we do not vote for a Prime Minister, we vote for a political party and the PM is simply the elected head of that party..therefore that statement by Andrew Holden does not make a good deal of sense.
Steve, Garrett is most definitely a Christian (which did surprise me somewhat). One of my major criticisms against Rudd when he was previously PM is how he let Garrett be the fall guy in the so-called pink batts ‘debacle’.
Here is the email I got from Krudd, with my reply:
What needs to be done now, is to redirect that hatred towards Gillard, to Abbott.
Should not be hard, as he has never been popular in the polls.
Would love another minority government.
Rubbish still being said about Gillard. They do not know what she stands for.
I suspect that Reith got it right, when he said she was old Labor. Which many said they wanted.
Where is the evidence that the PM fostered hate. Why is Abbott let off the hook, on the standard that politics has sunk too.
I suspect the public is still not listening.
“What needs to be done now, is to redirect that hatred towards Gillard, to Abbott.”
Yes lets hate even more. You know hatred seems to be a natural characteristic of a Labor supporter. You seem to get strength from hating. It gives ALP supporters purpose.
You know Labor and its supporters are setting the example with the personal abuse dished out. Swan even called Abbott a drunkard the other day. I doubt if Swan saw Abbott drunk. Swan just told a baldfaced lie for political purposes.
Labor first tries character assignation against Coalition voters/politicians. If that fails Labor just tells lies about people. Like Abbott hates women.
What an immoral political party is Labor.
Neil, it is not us that are hating. I am talking about the hate that exists in the community against Gillard.
We cannot let it be transferred to Rudd, even though, he might deserve it as much as Abbott. Abbott has unleashed that hate,
It is fair that he suffers the backlash.
What comes around, goes around.
Bacchus, how old is that story. Has so much credit, that MSM is ignoring it.
One would think, listening to some misguided people here, that Gillard was the only one involved. If anyone has to fear, I suggest Blewitt, who had control of the money, buried some I believe, and whose name was on the documents.
Gillard has gone, No point in any further investigation.
The most they could have found, would have been a minor procedure misdemeanor, if they could prosecute, after this length of time, would have led to a slap on the wrists.
Now for Hockey and Bough, I am not sure the same applies.
I do not believe this. Australia is ready for women leaders. They are flourishing in many fields.
When it has come to politics, by it’s nature, has let a small number of people, who are bigoted, who hate woman and live in the past, take over the agenda.
Party hacks, in both parties, have used this to attack Gillard.
Decent people, mostly men, have let themselves be hoodwinked. The head of the forces said, it is time for decent men to stand up.
It is time for all women to have faith in themselves and demand to be treated with respect.
Interesting, we have had this man on the TV many times lately, putting the boot into the One can make up their own mind over that.
I hope he joins the Guardian
I think we need to let Rudd knw, that putting the boot into Gillard is not on.
Waheed Aly has gone insane, or else he’s sneakily campaigning for Abbott. He said on The Project this evening that Rudd and Abbott are virtually the same, and he would like to see an Abbott-led minority government. What he seems to be doing is appealing to people who want to vote independent because they can’t stand either Abbott or Rudd, but suggesting they give their preference to the Libs.
If you want to bear witness to this stupidity/duplicity, you can see a repeat of The Project at 11.15 tonight.
And the Murdoch ABC certainly hasn’t changed one iota with the change of leadership.
Over Rudd being verballed by the opposition they showed a few seconds of Rudd and then four Liberals in a row attacking Rudd, Bishop, Downer, Abbott and a Senator in parliament going off in a rave.
Yet again the ABC’s blatant bias for the Liberals was on display as they repeated Abbott’s verballing as fact and Bishop’s distortion of her run in with Indonesia and indirectly canned Rudd’s statement by not giving the context.
By the way Indonesia has stated they had no problem with what Rudd said, just domestic politicking, which is the opposite of what they have said about the opposition’s statements on Indonesia and towing back the boats, where the Indonesian Ambassador, Foreign Minister and all the way up to the Vice President have spoken out against the opposition and especially Julie Bishop who indirectly accused the Indonesians of lying, something they are very unhappy about.
One can only futilely hope that this verballing of what Rudd says opens up the reproofs the Indonesian authorities made against the Abbott, Bishop and Morrison.
ME, I believe that Gillard had something substantial up her sleeve, to come from this meeting with Indonesia. One can only hope that Rudd can carry her work forwarded. I refuse to believe she has been sitting on her backslide doing nothing in the last year. That is not her style.
Contrary to what Bishop and Co say the Indonesian leaders seem to have liked her. Even going as far as saying, the could not understand why she was replaced.
One can only hope, as this is the only thing that Gillard did not get the time to put to bed.
Waheed Aly has gone insane, or else he’s sneakily campaigning for Abbott. He said on The Project this evening that Rudd and Abbott are virtually the same, and he would like to see an Abbott-led minority government. What he seems to be doing is appealing to people who want to vote independent because they can’t stand either Abbott or Rudd, but suggesting they give their preference to the Libs.
He’s an ABC guy isn’t he? Meh, they’ve been campaigning for Abbott since Day 1, and for Turdball prior to that.
Waheed Aly is a free agent. He’s appeared on commercial TV, mostly Ten.
He’s intelligent enough to know that Abbott won’t wear a minority government. He will sell everything to get power but as soon as he’s in he’ll engineer an election.
It’s what he threatened to do in 2010, which is the reason the Indies refused to deal with him though he offered them the world, including stabbing two of the Liberals stars in those offers.
An Abbott minority government is a myth and at most will be of the shortest term possible. He will make sure it fails.
We can only hope this has a small ring of truth to it. If it does then it will be one of the very rare occasions the Tele does tell the truth about politics.
Windsor gives Mirabella a deserved serving on Insiders. Mirabella the nastiest politician in parliament.
Good one Tony Windsor.
Haha, Channel 7 News calls fraudband “bullshitband”. Either term is an apt description.
Just started reading “The Stalking of Julia Gillard” OMG.
All those clever buggers who think they are on a winner with Krudd should do themselves (and the country) a favor and read just how disturbed this guy is.
Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you had ’til it’s gone.
luna, I suspect not many here are looking a Rudd through rose colored lens. Suspect the opposite is true. We are just accepting the reality, that many, in fact a great many are not going anywhere but to Rudd. Nothing we or the PM Gillard can do to change that. Not all take interest in politics as we do. They perceive Rudd to be their man, and nothing is going to change that. They feel cheated, and are not going to rest until they have their man, back in his rightful place.
This being a democracy, they have the right to support whoever they like.
All we can do, is hold on, stop Abbott and hope down the track, things will be sorted out.
This generally happens in life.
In the meantime, we can do as much as we can, to keep things on a even keel, and wait for Abbott and Co to lose it, as will happen as sure as night follows day.
It was nice today, watching the ABC do some hard questioning on all their shows. No not giving Labor a easy go.
No Queenslanders on that front bench.
Silkworm if you didnt think Tony Burke deserved interruption then you must think, as it seems most broadcast journalists do, that interviews are a place for unregulated unchallenged propaganda from the interviewees. The non sense Burke was trying to spin was utterly illogical regardless of political persuasion. The uncritical policy analysis/debate that arises from the type of civilised diatribes you appear to favour is possibly the greatest threat to good governance in Australia. Emma Alberici keep up the good work …take no prisoners.
Revealed: the Rupert Murdoch tape
Murdoch caught in projection. In a rage blaming the police and the inquiry for his failures.
Empiricist, you are full of sh!t.
Oh sweet Silkworm run out of mulberry leaves? If you have been watching the ABC with a keen eye the tide turned when Leigh Sales did Gillard the extraordinary favour of not personally interviewing Gillard’s crooked ex boyfriend when he surfaced to try and bail Gillard out of trouble over the slush fund. Sales left potentially the most explosive interview of the last 5 years to a unknown untested junior. As it was he made damaging admissions according to the former head of the WA ICAC that left gillard with a serious case to answer that she had at the time engaged in criminal conduct although the statute of limitations had long run out. The junior did not recognise any of the damaging admission as such and did not probe further.
Sales never really got into the topic area except from the perspective of being tough on her ex-boy friends other partner in crime, the bag man. However Sales sense of embarrassment in hand balling the potentially explosive interview on was palpable. Since then she has been tougher on both side. although because of her ending of the free kicks she’d been giving Gillard it made her tough questioning of Gillard, before the christmas break, seem all the more harsh.
Fantasist, take your right-wing sludge somewhere else.
“Empiricist, you are full of sh!t.”
Just proved it @ 5:06 am.
According to the Media, the Prime Minister has blood on their hands because the predecessor was back stabbed and they are not a legitimate government.
All of these things were said of Julia Gillard but none of these things have been said about Rudd.
Rudd has done more to deserve this type of slander.
According to the latest Morgan poll Pyne could be Gone-ski.
The ABC again proves where it hangs its allegiance. Every news piece I’ve seen and heard from the ABC has exclusively reported the Newspoll 50/50, only one mentioned Rudd’s huge lead over Abbott as PPM, with Abbott now around Gillard’s worst, but not a single news piece mentioned the previous Essential or Morgan.
This far out the polls are pretty much worthless and only a snapshot of now, not what will occur down the track, like Abbott being booted for instance.
But why I bring this up is to highlight what appears to be an almost total fawning of the ABC to Ltd. News where they rarely reference other sources outside of News and the IPA.
the ABC to Ltd. News where they rarely reference other sources outside of News and the IPA.
And it appears that ltdnews and theirabc are about the only outlets not to mention tabots travel rorts.
And, from toolman’s tummy rub of tabot last night
TONY ABBOTT: Well, essentially, we will begin to reduce the suffocating burden of red tape which is making it so much harder for business
Now, a true reporter would ask if they would be removing some of that pesky red tape Labor introduced to Insulators. But I guess the rubathon was moving along too quickly for toolman to think on his knees.
lunalava, it was on the cards in 2010, until The Termite was toppled. I’m not in his electorate to vote him out, but I urge anyone who is, to put him last. Repulsive creature.
I wonder how many shades of puce he’ll go if he gets slung out. That alone would make it worthwhile.
The Abbott rort issue got a run on Lateline this evening. They gave a run to Slipper’s tweet about ther inconsistency of Abbott getting the benefit of the Minchin protocol and Slipper not getting the benefit.
Silkworm @12.50am, finally a bit of traction on the Liealot rorts. And they gave Slipper’s tweet a nod. At f*cken last!
Appears Murdoch could be on big trouble this time.
Yep they’ve recalled him to the enquiry in light of the tape. They want him to explain why it appears he lied to the enquiry.
I hope they have a library of books to chuck at the corrupt old bugger. And then a blow to the kidneys from Wendy Deng.
This on the SMH web site.
…and so Krudd’s sell off of the NBN to Murdoch moves one step closer with the removal of Quigley, boss of NBN Co.
To all the gutless men of the Labor Party, was it worth it?
Krudd at tonights community cabinet:
‘Well folks, that’s enough about me, now, what do you think of me’ [Wait for applause, ….waiting,….waiting]
Krudd watched Gillard at the Community Cabinet and said ‘I can do that!’
No Krudd you can’t, because you think of yourself first.
Oh yeah and that terrible bottom lip quiver, that’s God telling you you are an arsehole.
luna, if I was Rudd, I think I would have given it a miss. Showed up all those missing faces of great calibre, that are now missing. The atmosphere seemed different, than those of Gillard’s. There seemed to be a trace of anger within the room. Not sure who it was aimed at. Starting on time might have helped.
Fed up – I reckon Julia Gillard greeted people with respect. Advice to Krudd:
r.e.s.p.e.c.t. find out what it means to me.
Loved the way Krudd’s goodie-two shoes mask dropped when the indigenous guy pulled him up for not welcoming his local group.
Heard this very interesting piece on ABC Radio National Media Report.
Innovative newspaper developments in the United States
The gist is that whilst publicly owned newspapers are dying and laying off journalists, privately owned localised newspapers incorporating a mix of delivery methods are growing and hiring journalists.
For instance there’s a newspaper started by two men who made their wealth out of the internet and have moved to paper and online delivery of news for the city they live in.
Wonder if this will happen here as it would be the death knell of Murdoch’s 70+% newspaper ownership in this country?
Haha, Rudd wipes the floor with Bolt on the Bolt Report interview.
Shows Bolt is not a reporter’s arsehole. Falls to pieces when he gets someone who doesn’t agree with everything he says.
ME, glad to have someone that agrees with me. Others seem to think Bolt came out on top.
In fact. Bolt is like more of our visitors, interested in only proving their point of view. In fact, as obsessive as many that come to this site are.
Bolt was back to stating things that even Media Watch pulled him up on as lies.
Rudd vs Bolt: The interview
The comments I’ve read state Rudd owned Bolt. Be aware there is a link to Bolt’s blog at the end of that article.
One should listen to what Morrison has to say. I would recommend that one listens carefully.
Rudd vs Bolt
Bolt certainly never got on top of Rudd, despite repeated gotcha-style questions about guaranteeing when the boats would stop.
Rudd did however force Bolt into defending, indeed denying, his climate change skepticism. Bolt actually said he did not deny “climate change”.
Anybody who’s familiar with Bolt’s position would’ve quickly spotted the deft splitting of hairs here: Bolt probably does “believe” in so-called “climate change”, but only the most narrow and literal interpretation of the expression.
In the context of the current debate however “climate change” is the skeptic’s euphemistic re-badged term for “Anthropogenic Global Warming”, which Bolt vehemently rejects.
Bolt is very lucky Rudd didn’t switch to that term and expose Bolt’s duplicity.
There are plenty of conservatives however who are concerned about AGW whose loyalties would’ve been sorely tested.
Not all conservatives are stupid.
Rudd did tell Bolt he was happy to go back again. That is after Bolt said words to the effect, that I hope I have not harmed you to much. The arrogance of the man
At least, the Telegraph is being criticized for it’s front page. One they say, one might expect to see on the eve of the election, not the first day.
Murdoch has bought one of Murdoch’s senior executive to run their campaign.
Good, I hope the Telegraph keeps it up. That is the over the top and over reaching.
Murdoch’s man has the nick name of Col Pot, because it rhymes with Pol Pot 🙄 ….. I am so glad that Rupes has brought this man over from the States…… I mean look at the good job he did for Mitt 😆
They just can’t bring themselves to say it, can they?
Labor’s harsh line delaying boats
S.T.OP.P.I.N.G. It’s not that hard really. I even spelt it out for them 😉
Media Watch XXI is now up. I’ll archive this page soon.