I really enjoyed the discussion in the first of our Café Talk pages, which filled up very quickly. Here’s number 2 for open discussion.
The previous page will be archived shortly.
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Café Talk II
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Of course it is different.
spot on.
Cu, Did I think that was funny???
… Yes. 😀
Will Tony think it’s spot on ??? ……um…… 😉
For those with children and grandchildren, the future looks bright 🙂
That NBNco is looling better everyday.
Listening to Lateline. I feel that the PM might have wedged Abbott today on dirt files. This would have been one time to be prudent and shut up.
the NSW Government are the first to be caught out pilfering the Carbon Price rebates
THE federal government has accused the Premier, Barry O’Farrell, of a ”cash grab” after the announcement his government will take a cut of carbon tax rebates paid to pensioners by increasing public housing rents.
The Community Services Minister, Pru Goward, said that from March the government would include the rebates when setting social housing rents, which are calculated at 25 per cent to 30 per cent of tenants’ income.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ofarrell-accused-of-grab-at-pensioner-carbon-rebate-20120614-20d66.html#ixzz1xnkQZgwc
grubs is the word.
I just posted that link to Clarke and Dawe on the Civil War thread CU, didn’t note you had beat me to it 😉
Classic C&D
Slipper.
Government is alleging collusion and target political campaign between Bought, Ashby and another government employee. Government claims to have records of phone calls.
Bough and the reporter subpoenaed.
Slipper is accusing Ashby’s legal eagles of what amounts to misusing the courts.
I still believe this matter is not going to go far, at least as Mr. Ashby and the Liberals planned.
Directions hearing appears to be put aside.
We have a stony face Costello on, talking about his predictions. Remember Mr. Costello is wonderful at building straw houses, that have little to do with reality, then proceeding to knock them down.
Sorry, I do not believe one word he says. Things are not good, I know that. The state has faced two disasters in the last couple of years.
The GFC and it’s after math has destroyed the tourist industry, which the state depends on.
Secondly it has had to cope with two years of massive flood disasters.
Of course there would be debt.
Ladies, it is what we have been all waiting for. A place of our own, to protect us from those big bad men.
Do we ladies really feel unsafe in the real world.
By the way, Mr. Costello is using different accounting procedures to reach his conclusions. I believe he is including capital works.
Will have to wait for some one to compare apples and oranges for us.
lol
This is the tool who was on tele the other night complaining about how piss weak our schools are these days
On his 2GB breakfast show last year, Jones said “human beings produce 0.001 per cent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere”.
The Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) says the station failed to make an effort to ensure the statement was accurate.
ACMA chairman Chris Chapman says the watchdog is not penalising the licensee of 2GB, but is working with it to improve procedures.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-15/acma-rules-against-alan-jones-on-climate-change/4073048
Bring on Finkelstein, and give us an ACMA with balls up their dresses.
Cu, @11.50am and “It’s a place where women can connect, chat, shop, swap and share in an environment that is safe and gives them a real sense of belonging.” And do we need one.
That’s a good question. Women are under extreme pressure, I think that the feminist movement has achieved zilch. Women were once expected to be good home makers, dress up when the occasion was needed and that was about it. So called freedom via the feminist movement has created nothing except unrealistic expectations.
Today a woman has all the career pressures of a man, but is also carrying the ’50’s burden of always having to be perfect. The media emphasises this using Size 6 models who are about 6′ 2″ in height..no wonder the clothes looks so good on them.
I myself am never ever going to be perfect..and that’s a certainty.
Min, “..Size 6 models who are about 6′ 2″ in height..no wonder the clothes looks so good on them”…. walking skeletons are not my idea of looking good…. I appreciate ogling all shapes and sizes ;D
Thank you LOVO..I’m 5′ 1 and 3/4″, size 10..how about you. 😀
Looks like they will be taking the axe to the Qld public service and selling off assets.
‘and 3/4″ ‘. Well that proves it Min, you are an aspie. 😀
Jones gets it wrong on industrial CO2.
‘Sydney radio station 2GB, the former partner of failed Melbourne talkback station MTR, has been found to have breached the broadcasting code over Alan Jones’s claim that “human beings produce 0.001 per cent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere”.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/shockjock-jones-broke-rules-with-0001-greenhouse-claim-20120615-20egz.html#ixzz1xrVmZAJj
Jones tried to pull the wool over everybody’s eyes. It worked on his rabid bogun fan club. Smart folks, as would be expected, knew he was full of shit.
I don’t even think Abbott quoted Jones on this one. I’m sure he would have liked to, but one of his advisers must have tapped him on the shoulder.
Roswell, “but one of his advisers must have tapped him on the shoulder.”… and then they did a fox-trot …:D
Who led?
Frau Rhinehart ????? 😆
Another day, another court.
http://francesjones.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/court/?blogsub=confirmed#blog_subscription-3
Also from Frances Jones. What we appear to have here is Frances Jones recording and transcribing court events. http://francesjones.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/court/
Apologies for the lengthy copy and paste, but it’s worth reading..the entire transcript is quite long.
Rabbit and ‘and 3/4″ ‘. Well that proves it Min, you are an aspie. 😀 Hehe..let me count the ways. 😉
Albanese in press conference. Openly stating that the Liberals and the media are thick in a vexatious attack on Slipper to bring him down.
The allegations are bombs. His telling of the timeline of events and how senior Liberals came out in concert within hours of Ashby making his allegations public, before Slipper or the law were contacted about them, is damning.
This makes Crech look like small bickies.
And how convenient. The ABC has technical difficulties and cuts the press conference, but whenever the opposition have one the video is perfect.
‘One of the country’s biggest media buyers, Harold Mitchell, says the world of newspapers is rapidly changing.
HAROLD MITCHELL: ‘By 2020, 80 per cent of all media will be digital and right now the printing of a newspaper in its hard physical form isn’t as important as the information that’s getting out there. And so it’s the digital assets which are vital and it’s the one other incredible thing in Australia, which is regional Australia and the market that’s there. Warren Buffet has just moved into newspapers, people would say well it seems it’s time to move out – not really. It’s the local regional newspapers and those that really don’t have any competition that are so important.
‘Fairfax is made up of many parts but one is important that is digital and the other of course is the regional assets and I’d imagine that Gina Rinehart is looking very carefully at what all that means. I would hope it doesn’t mean that someone would hope to break it up. That would be a great mistake in many ways.’
Buy Rural Press!
Just tried to go to rebs site, and got this
Fraudulent Web Page Blocked
You attempted to access:
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This web page is a known fraudulent web page. It is recommended that you do NOT visit this page.
For your protection, this web page has been blocked. Visit Symantec to learn more about phishing and internet security.
don’t know if it my anti-virus being pedantic, or if you have an issue
reb?
Kaspersky, which is very good at picking up malevolent stuff, has no problems with TFR.
The utter hypocrisy of the conservatives is breathtaking.
They are now crying that it is unfair that Roxon and Albanese are commenting on a case that’s in progress. Justice should be allowed to run its course without political commentary attempting to influence the outcome.
There is no other way of putting this.
Fucking gross hypocrisy to the max, but you expect nothing else from the now sub-bottom dwelling conservatives and their supporters.
Mobius and..
Shucks and gosh oh golly. Next moment the Libs will be proclaiming “innocent until proven guilty”.
Next moment the Libs will be proclaiming “innocent until proven guilty”.
If a Liberal ever sincerely did that in a case that wasn’t being conducted against one of their own or friends then I’d be gobsmacked.
It’s not really hypocrisy ME, so much as stupidity
All Roxon is doing is outlining what stance the Commonwealth has already taken in court in relation to these matters. Interesting also that yomm raised exactly the same point yesterday at the site I cannot access.
Lawyers for the Commonwealth yesterday told a Federal Court that former staffer James Ashby, who is suing Mr Slipper for sexual harassment, colluded with another staffer, Karen Doane, to undermine Mr Slipper’s reputation and advance his political opponents.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-16/roxon-says-slipper-case-politically-motivated/4074408
She is not commenting, she is stating what the CW is doing.
Not hypocrisy Tom?
Sinodinos said they wouldn’t do what the government is doing as that would be muck raking, and they don’t engage in muck raking.
FFS do they really think the people are that stupid?
Min and the separation of powers and procedural fairness.
Not only colluded with another staffer but it’s alleged with senior Liberals who it seems framed the charges for Ashby to take to court.
If that is confirmed, with correspondence and the Liberals involved changing their stories several times now pointing towards it, then as I’ve stated Crech will be small fry in comparison to the fall out that will befall the Liberals this time.
Tom, Roxon is also very careful to say that is all she is doing, and she will not comment in anything that is not in the public domain.
All she is doing is noting the governments defense. After all they are named in the matter.
We do have two people that are on leave, and on full pay. Not bad work if one can get it.
ME, it could be that smoking gun that allows the public to see this Opposition for what it really is.
The word collusion is being writ large…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-16/roxon-says-slipper-case-politically-motivated/4074408
Oh lookie here…isn’t it nice to be vindicated for once in a blue moon..now what was that again about we at the Café being delusionary and apologists???
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pyne-sent-aide-email-after-drinks-20120516-1yre6.html#ixzz1xusjPlAq
Is this the same story changing Pyne who swore black and blue he had no contact of any form with Ashby?
This is why ulman is such a glass-jawed light-weight. And why he needs to go.
After all the revelations yesterday, this is what he has an issue with
😯
Mobius, when the story came out the legal-eagle in me clicked in. What Pyne said, and I’m fairly certain that this is right…was that he had no PHONE contact with Ashby. I recall asking, But what about emails?
I know it’s pedantic, but that’s how these people’s minds operate. It’s not lying, but its not exactly telling the truth either.
There’s a bit more to the Uhlmann/Lewis “friendship” too 😉
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/04/25/everyone-has-a-book-in-them/
‘don’t know if it my anti-virus being pedantic’
😉
The Gillard Government is on the defence this morning over its decision to have fewer than 300 polluters on its carbon tax hit list.
😯 ❓
The Gillard Government is on the defence this morning over its decision to have fewer than 300 polluters on its carbon tax hit list.
😯 ❓
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Tom, ya don’t mean..nahhh..cannot happen, that companies have actually taken action in order to reduce their carbon footprint.
Yes Min. An inconvenience for Abbott and his supporters is that many major companies have already moved to or are implementing measures to reduce their pollution in anticipation of not just the carbon price, but the world wide requirement to do business in a low polluting manner.
They aren’t stupid and can see that clean and efficient practices are not just good for the environment but also for their bottom line and company reputations, that is their good will. Clean practices are just good business.
Do you think they will take too kindly to an Abbott that comes in and tells them all they have done is a waste and he will give companies money to pollute, so the non clean businesses will get a comparative advantage over those who have done the right thing?
Do you think they will be happy when countries they trade with slap on penalties and tariffs as they are not attempting to produce products or provide services cleanly whilst the countries they are selling to are?
Mobius, this is where this debate has been well and truly overrun by the denialists who have done everything in their power to travel the debate back a decade or so.
Australia has become a backwater in this debate, that instead of debating the merit or otherwise of solutions we are still clunking around debating why 97% of climate scientists are wrong.
I’ve always wondered why I enjoy visiting the Cafe….you people smell nice! 😀
http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/your-politics-stink/269/
Thank you rabbit..I’m glad that you noticed. 😀
Abbott was complaining on Wednesday, that the company he was pulling his daily stunt, had already had to make adaptions to deal with the so called carbon tax.
it did not seem to occur to him, that this is what is suppose to happen. Cut the emissions, cut the tax.
The fact that it has caused cuts in emissions even before it is introduced, kinda cuts across the Oppositions cry that it will not even cut emissions.
Galactic Nooze
Swamp gas.
Min
On Pyne having no phone calls with Ashby, well why not ask the other person from the office in the frame, Karen Doane……. or even the other forms of contact from either party texts, emails .
Cu, I listened to Peter Hartcher speak to Philip Adams about this book on Late Night Live a couple of months ago and I was left with a feeling of numbness about the rabid negativity that Abbott espouses and the lies this negativity is based on. I had hoped that books like this would have more influence on the mug Australians than Abbott and his media mates have penetrated into our psyche.
On Francie Jones great reporting from the court room, did you see that Francie said the Kate McClyarmont was present for a very short time. Funny I didn’t see an article in the SMH on the court proceedings. After all her “investigative” mud slinging against Craig Thomson you would think Kate would be interested in keeping her readers informed of proceedings.
TPS generally hits the spot. Migs, it is surreal that we have the political climate we have today.
I do not know how a bully that relies in lies not being challenged. Maybe that is not true, as there have been some good books and essays lately.
I do hope these court cases blow up, bringing people back to their senses.
Migs, ‘Swamp gas’ …is that a new nick-name 😕 ….(waves at E.G.) 😀
Hi LOVO. Swamp gas is one of the pathetic excuses that the government uses to explain away sightings thought to be a UFO. Either that or it is the planet Venus. Or a leaf blowing in the wind.
But yes, el gordo is full of gas.
Swamp gas is funny, but a couple of these orbs took off at phenomenal speed.
It was actually a good video, el gordo.
I expect a statement from NASA along the lines that it was caused by heat reflection or condensation on the lens.
Or even swamp gas. You must admit it really does look like swamp gas. 😉
Migs, *blush*. I owe you an apology. I thought that messages came from yourself..have now worked out the culprit.
pathetic
Tom, pathetic indeed.
Tom, I would second that. Will some person’s quest for revenge have no boundaries. Next it will be refusal for leave to attend a funeral..oh wait, the Libs have done that one already.
Watching Insiders today, Miglo, I think it’s time someone put out some info on Christian Porter, one of the first entrants in the Great Coalition Talent Quest. Thanks, Min, that word ‘quest’ gives me just the word I’m looking for. I say Coalition because it looks like Richard Torbay is a serious contender in that and has come out for the Nationals as a rival to Tony Windsor. No doubt more will be encouraged to have a go in the future. It could make for some colourful reportage!
I’ll focus on our entrant from the West today, If no one else is planning anything my new post will be up before teatime over there.
Thanks Patricia, I look forward to it.
‘No doubt more will be encouraged to have a go in the future.’
Torbay gave the impression that the independents will be wiped from the political landscape at the next election, so he’s voting with his feet.
el gordo, I have news for you. i am disappointed in my local member,
Unless she changes her ways, and begins supporting the PM, I will be looking for a good independent to vote for, at least first preference.
She needs to start pulling her weigh and start working with the Labor ministers that surround this electorate, otherwise she will go.
She needs to find a branch for me to join, one where I can get too without transport. Not a hard thing to ask.
It is obviously too hard. Maybe the little I let on about my beliefs was picked up. Whether I might not be welcome or it is just too hard, I do not know,
This same lady acted quickly when I had dental problems a year ago.
The ball is in her court.
If her staff read the blogs, she will know who I mean.
By the way, intend to join a local branch, even if I have to go through the PM to find one.
Would one be surprise, if this matter was withdrawn.
My emphasis.
APOLOGIES – I JUST LOST MY NEW POST AS I PRESSED PUBLISH
The Coalition Nationwide Talent Quest? First Entrant Appears in the West!
Miglo, I can’t find it anywhere. Family coming in shortly for birthday tea and celebration so I can’t re-write. Unless you can find it I will have to come back after tea!
Cheers! Everyone. I can see you have plenty talk about, anyway!
Patricia, would you like me to look for it?
Patricia, I found it and published it but it has disappeared again.
I’ll search again.
Patricia, this can happen if a photo attachment has a copyright on it.
Patricia, it appears to have gone. Do you have a copy anywhere?
Patricia, I’ve re-blogged it plus copied in from Polliepomes. So now it appears twice. 😦
I might have gone overboard. 😦
Migs, you’re doing a wonderful job and we all appreciate this.
Patricia, if a post disappears after you try and publish it you can always click on a previous edited version and try again. I found that out the hard way one before. 😦
Awesome..David Kal* has just offered me a tour of the red center. How could I say no, an indigenous person offering to introduce me to the culture. I’m about to pack my bags. 😀
Min, want company.
Cu, now that could indeed be a tour. I think that Dianne in Geraldton would come along too. And Alisi and a couple of others have also expressed interest.
Mr. Bough has been subpoenaed to be a witness. He has not been asked to produce anything. Releasing emails is a red herring on his part.
Ms. Roxon has said that there will be many witness called from Queensland. No idea of whom she means.
All the Attorney General has done is outline the defence the government is mounting. She has been very clear to state, that what she has outlined has not been tested in court.
Is the Opposition really saying the government does not have the right to launch a defense, and we the people to be informed of that defence.
O/T
They have found a strange object on the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
‘Object is raised about 10 to 13ft above seabed and curved at the sides like a mushroom.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160297/Pictured-The-UFO-shaped-object-the-Baltic-Sea–covered-soot-little-fireplaces-lying-end-1-000ft-runway.html#ixzz1y2Ve9gDd
I’ve been following that story for a couple of months, el gordo. I understand that a statement is soon to be issued.
They’ve been talking about it a lot on the Mysterious Universe podcast.
If you have an iPod or an iPhone it’s worthwhile subscribing to.
This is the overseas trip, that Mr. Abbott claims he is being generous in giving pairs. This is the meeting, that the Mr. Abbott said he did not think important enough for MP Burke to attend. We have him, I believe leaving at a later date. Mr. Abbott alleged that he would spend the extra time sitting on the beach.
Has anyone gave us the extra cost that will be incurred by not allowing him to fly out with the PM.
This is the reason that the PM called last weeks conference and released the new national parks policies.
That is the importance the PM put on the meetings, and our roles in them.
Obviously, Mr. Abbott does not see any importance in that.
It will be interesting to see how many questions are asked of Mr. Burke, before Mr. Abbott puts on his daily stunt of MSSO.
Not many, I believe.
So according to Hunt, the only thing that is considered as work, is when one attends the house on sitting days. Everything else is a rort. What one does overseas is not work.
PS. What does one call Mr. Abbott’s daily flying around the country, to pull a stunt on some poor business. he does not even have anything new to say.
Cu, from your link to blogatariat, ,…. looks like partisan crap to me, as “pairing” is a long standing convention.
Pip, I think all it is, look I do have some power, look at what I can do.
I am not too sure, if Labor wanted to challenge in parliament, the Opposition would be howled down.
it is stupid that Mr.Burke, for the shake of two QTs, has to get on what I assume is an commercial plane instead of accompany the PM.
It is not as both have been on our TVs daily, I assume at work. That is weekends as well a weekdays.
There are other ministers that can answer any question the Opposition may have. In fact it will be an unusual day, if they ask any.
It just shows how petty the Opposition leader is, and how ineffectual he is.
I clever Opposition leader could and should be a bigger thorn in the side of the PM, in a minority government..
The Greens, Democrats and independents made their presence known in Howard’s day.
HOORAY!
‘ARCHAEOLOGISTS at a remote site in southwest Arnhem Land have made a discovery establishing early Australian Aborigines as among the most advanced people in human evolution.
‘A team led by Bruno David from Monash University has found and firmly dated a fragment of charcoal rock art to 28,000 years ago.’
From the Oz
El gordo, that surprises me not a bit..after all the Aboriginal people are the world’s greatest survivors.
Is the glass half full of hope or despair. What happens to the glass if Mr. Abbott’s achieve what he believes is his birthright.
Burke, not ask a question until 3.58.
I assume there will be MSSO on the marine parks. On a paper that is on the table for six weeks for discussion.
Burke sounds a little angry, or is it passionate.
Cu, if it had been me and Environment Minister Tony Burke has cancelled a trip to Brazil for a “once in a decade” meeting on sustainable development, amid a political stand-off with the Coalition over parliamentary tactics.
Yes indeed, missing out on a once in decade opportunity due to Abbott and his supidity and pairing..then extremely p’d off would be a natural response….
My emphasis.
Mr. Burke pointed out, if one could not attend the preliminary meetings, it was waste of money going.
This Opposition is now directing how ministers carry out their roles.. Mr. Burke has introduced a study that is on the table for six weeks to allow discussion to occur.
They then add insult to injury by not asking any questions.
The arrogance knows no bounds.
As Mr. Swan said today in QT, Mr. Abbott is the biggest offender.
‘The majority of voters believe Ms Gillard failed on climate change through a broken promise not to introduce a carbon tax, with 59 per cent believing it would not reduce greenhouse emissions, according to the latest Galaxy poll.’
Simon Benson in the Daily Terror
Not bad, 17 out of 27.
Twenty five percent of journalist to go at Fairfax.
No, it is not the carbon tax. It is the new digital, technology and cyber space age.
As for the shares going up, could not be Gina’s big buy up. She now wants three seats. She is also in the position to make a take over offer.
Gina wants editorial control. That is why she is being knocked back.
Gina deserves three seats, she is after all the richest woman in the world.
‘Gina wants editorial control.’
Editorial balance on CC science, CO2 and mining taxes.
el gordo, it a.so shows that 40% of businesses do not know how the carbon pricing will affect them.
So they are saying no to something they have not bothered to take the time to learn how it will involve them
At the same time, many are sure it is going to roooon them.
el gordo, it just does not compute.
I have been doing some thinking. Yes, it is a strain.
We hear so much about Gillard knifing Rudd, as if the action took place because of her ambitions.
Is that true, I believe not.
it was not about putting Gillard in power. it was about getting rid of Rudd.
His caucus friends had come to the decision that Rudd had to go.
It is likely that if Gillard had not accepted the job when asked by caucus, Rudd still would have went.
Someone else would have been asked or stepped up.
it was an unanimous decision.
So the 59% who think the CO2 tax will have no effect on climate are just silly?
Yes 😆
And ignorant
“So the 59% who think the CO2 tax will have no effect on climate are just silly?”
Let’s rephrase that el gordo.
“59% of those surveyed by a right wing media with a history of dissing the credible climate science think etc.”
Is Roy Morgan acceptable?
Yep but have you got the figures, like sample size and demographics.
There is also the case that those who were surveyed didn’t have the full story or information, just the media and Abbott beatup. What was the exact question asked?
How about they are asked what they think of in paying for Abbott’s scheme but with no compensation and polluting industries getting their hard given tax money for nothing. Methinks the results will be a far greater 59%.
Oh and how does ignorant opinion change the science of what’s actually happening?
It’s not just that the RWDB media is doing the survey ME, but rather the constant dissing the credible climate science that has been aimed at the non-thinking masses for so long. The numbers indicate no more than that the big end of town is winning the propaganda “war” because of the never-ending crap spewing forth from all of its orifices (Abbott, OO, Ltd. News, some of Fairfax, the deliberately dishonest like EG etc.)
‘…the deliberately dishonest like EG etc.’
Baccy you’re the one who has been brainwashed, by the Klimatariat.
FFS – another graph without context – just reinforces my point 🙄
How about please providing some context to the stuff you post el gordo? Just posting images of graphs where the source can’t be researched means absolutely nothing.
That you do this so often also means you are proving yourself wrong as you are so uncertain of your position you haven’t the honesty to provide the full information. You like just about all denialists must resort to subterfuge, deceit, misdirection and dishonesty to work around the very flawed position being espoused.
Nova and Watts are covering it….but you can’t believe a thing they say.
ME – your last post so completely defines EG’s contribution on this subject!
That you do this so often also means you are proving yourself wrong as you are so uncertain of your position you haven’t the honesty to provide the full information. You like just about all denialists must resort to subterfuge, deceit, misdirection and dishonesty to work around the very flawed position being espoused.
But she still continues on regardless – the very definition of a TROLL 🙄
I often muse over whether el gordo’s just trying to have a lend of us, or whether she really does have no idea how to construct a logical argument.
Interesting question Migs… I’ll happily proffer an opinion 😉 She knows exactly what’s she’s doing – the pertinent question though is WHY? She purports to be a ‘lefty”, but every utterance would indicate otherwise – reminds me of another “prominent” poster on related forums 😉
El Gordo is a construct … sowing the seeds of doubt…. and knowingly so(w).. 😀
a talker with no walk, … useless …, a someone of no moment,…. but, then again while she/it/him is here you gotta know that this blog is heading in the right direction, otherwise it wouldn’t be here trying to cause dis function or dat function….. which of cause is her function …… 🙄
I’m going crazy.
Yesterday after making a coffee I opened the door to the dishwasher to put the milk away. I could have swore I got it from the fridge.
Just then I traced my steps around the house to look for my glasses. I found them on my head – sitting on my nose of all places.
What can I blame?
El F* Gordo…… works for me 😉
What can I blame?
Distracted concentration?
Growing old. 😦
um, Migs …. welcome to my world …. a couple of months ago I got up, got ready, drove to work and found the gates shut ???????WTF…… it was SATURDAY, no worky on Saturday….. 😳
Mr. Brandis, would one rely on him in court?
These are good signs that you’re pondering important matters and “failing” on mundane “crap” Older can= wiser sometimes 😉
LOVO, that takes some beating. 😛
C.U. at 11.37
Just saw this on Lateline. What a pity it is that one has to share the same corner of the galaxy with George Brandis SC. What a slithering creep.
Wong’s answer.
It’s the drugs Miglo. Probably the same ones Brandis is on. Hallucinogenic.
Miglo, I have lost a pair of glasses, walking to the mail box. I have a small house and a small yard with few hiding places.
That was over twelve months ago. and they have not turned up. They could have been sitting on my head last time I remember seeing them.
My emphasis
My primary interest is in the science and on May 17, 2010 at 5:58 pm I commented at Deltoid…
‘On the surface all looks normal, but just below the surface the temperatures in the equatorial Pacific have gone seriously cold. We can expect La Nina to dominate over the coming decade and large floods in the land of Oz.’
Getting it right ahead of anyone else in the world gives me confidence that your worldview is flawed.
Now that reb is creating Daily Trash I don’t expect I’ll be allowed to make comments about the weather, so I will be spending more time at the cafe.
Can’t believe it… on second thoughts with the low state of the media in this country I can.
They are attacking Gillard for being arrogant overseas.
And why is she being called arrogant by our rabid right wing media?
She dared to talk up Australia’s economy on an international stage.
So talking up Australia’s economy overseas is arrogance, but there’s a proviso on this, it’s only arrogance when Labor does it. Abbott recently talked up our economy overseas not long after he had trashed it back home. And of course Howard according to the media was always fantastic in talking up our economy overseas, even if what he was saying was bull, and that was never arrogance.
Gillard dares state it as it is and the sheer arrogance of this woman must be splashed across the local media.
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On another note if you get to see the footage of Gillard sitting down next to Cameron at the G20, have a look at Cameron’s body language. He cannot get far enough away from her. Interesting.
“Now that reb is creating Daily Trash I don’t expect I’ll be allowed to make comments about the weather, so I will be spending more time at the cafe.”
el gordo, it is nice to see you are talking about the weather, not the climate.
The PM arrogant. They are also misquoting what she is saying. Yesterday, I seen a comment that alleged the PM was telling the world how to improve their economy by introducing a carbon tax. The PM did not use the words carbon tax, as this was not what she was talking about. She was talking about the stimulus, and moving on to bring down debt.
I am amaze at the Opposition ability to get the words, “great big carbon tax” into every answer.
I suspect that the introduction on the first of July might act as a stimulus for the economy. Money taken from a handful of emitters ins being redirected to low income earners in the community. This will more than compensate them for the extra power costs.
And the nation finally realised Climate and Weather are two different things…
(except for el gordo)
Yep, the O’Farrell government is on the nose and diving, regardless of what opinion polls are saying. His government is failing, so in a terrible budget that broke a new set of set in concrete election promises, the one thing it was getting accolades for, the bribing of the people to not look at his failures, looks like also being a failure and causing long term damage to NSW.
NSW budget’s complex consequences for residential property
Yep another long term State Labor government coming up down the track.
Abbott ABC 24. (CEDA) A PM lecturing others. Once again trying to depict a strong government as weak. Talking about the spending spree that does not exist.
Talking the economy down again. Trying to present negativity in a positive manner. Talk about getting one self in a tangle/
Notice he now wears his glasses on his nose. Is that to make him look more intelligent.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/company-tax-needs-slow-reform-not-quick-fi64257x–smith-20120618-20kd7.html
The debate we should be having, not the rubbish that Abbott goes on with.
Yes, he is correct to say
If one listened to both the PM and the Treasurer, they are also saying we need prepare ourselves for a uncertain future. This is why the PM is begging Europe to get it’s act together.
Mo @ 7:56. Incredible. Absolute hypocrisy from our ‘balanced’ media.
EG lying again
“Getting it right ahead of anyone else in the world gives me confidence that your worldview is flawed.”
except that, as usual, you’re wrong.
Yesterday, the Opposition accused the government of lying. They alleged that hundred involved in refrigeration have to pay a levy on emissions. Yes they do. They are still and will be paying the levy introduced by Mr. Howard, a decade or so ago, in relation to the harmful gases that used to be emitted in refrigeration. Nice try.
Does anyone really believe that the CEF and MRRT will bring this country ti ruin, as they are but at the most moderate policies.
Does anyone really believe that the world will be rosy, if Mr. Abbott dismantles both of these policies.
Does anyone really believe that Mr. Abbott has any idea at where the economy is at.
How does the dismantling of the policies deal with the new world order and the global economy we now find ourselves.
How does Mr. Abbott intend to deal with the patch work economy and the high Australian dollar.
Why is looking after the interests of big business and higher income earners at the expense of those at the bottom. good for Australia.
How does bringing in a more expensive and less efficient Direct Action Scheme benefited us all.
Please there must be someone that can tell us how and why. Telling us it will work is not good enough.
‘…except that, as usual, you’re wrong.’
That’s debatable.
Cu @8.13am 😆
Mobius @7.56am and On another note if you get to see the footage of Gillard sitting down next to Cameron at the G20, have a look at Cameron’s body language. He cannot get far enough away from her. Interesting.
Perhaps Cameron was a bit wary knowing how the Australian media had treated President Obama..who can forget that journalistic masterpiece titled: The Audacity of the Grope.
‘You won’t find an economist anywhere that will tell you anything other than that the most efficient and effective way to cut emissions is by putting a price on carbon.’
Not just economists, but Abbott has said the most efficient and effective way to cut emissions is to put a price on carbon.
So for no other reason than he isn’t in government he’s going around deliberately demonising by distortions and lies something he believes is the best way to reduce carbon emissions, and because of that is offering a scheme if in government that’s the worst way to do it as it won’t achieve anything, cost the taxpayers billions in handouts to big polluters and also cost each household an estimated $790pa in today’s dollars without compensation.
Where is all the media reporting on that?
Na Min. I’m pretty good at reading body language and have read Pease, many times, and Morris on the subject.
Cameron was displaying the classic language of dislike for the person he was sitting next to. For a seasoned pollie, who are body language masters (execpt for Abbott whose a dill at it), to openly display this rejection of another leader of a country is very telling and does not reflect well on Cameron.
Like Abbott, and assertive, headstrong and very intelligent woman leading a country scares Cameron it seems. It’s why the right wing media go out of their way in misrepresentations and falsifications to denigrate Gillard. One on one on equal terms these men would be crushed by Gillard.
“One on one on equal terms these men would be crushed by Gillard.”
That should be: One on one on equal terms these supposedly tough men would be crushed by Gillard.
Mobius, re Gillard and Cameron..jealousy they say is a curse..
Is it a code or more of a guideline
Fairfax Media Charter of Editorial Independence
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/fairfax-media-charter-of-editorial-independence-20120619-20l4t.html
If anybody sees Bacchus could they tell him I have a relapse of the man flu. 😦
“That’s debatable”
From where I sit, it does seem to be settled.
Is that other site really stopping you from voicing your passionate concerns? What did you do or say to bring that on.
Miglo, sounds like you need to get yourself into a warmer climate.
it must be all that cooling that el gordo is talking about.
Migs, I’m sorry to learn this. I have a good cure for this, just ask and I’ll be there.
Min, well to be told how to do your job, by a woman who had the runs on the board might be a little hard to take.
After all he has to stand up for his great friend, Abbott.
Maybe he is afraid the PM will give him a warm hug, or a kiss on the cheek.
Does not want much. Wants it so bad, she is willing to buy the paper.
Cu, we’ve spoken several times about how Abbott does have a problem with his attitude towards women. I think hence his impersonalisation of the PM to a more generic “she”. Perhaps a warm touch on the shoulder with someone with a kind heart such as the PM might melt the frostiest of hearts..and this is what they are afraid of.
Another Abbott promise that is expensive, cuts across people’s rights and does not work. It is OK, it sounds good, and fits in with ones prejudices.
I give the Queensland Premier credit for abandoning the connection between truancy and welfare. Another bright idea that is rubbish.
Australia’s Coalition will press ahead with plans to expand work for the dole schemes despite a British finding they are ineffective.
Cu @11.44am..we were clearly on the same wavelength. 🙂
Can anyone pick up the mistake in the reporting below.. 😉
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12286791-eu-chief-at-g20-summit-were-not-here-to-receive-lessons-from-nobody#.T9_en9yFUyo.twitter
There’re a couple of errors Min…
Annabel Crabb must be the only journalist who actually put her brain in gear instead of doing a copy and paste of the groupthink story
from Twitter
Ms Crabb even provided a link!!
Pip..Australia’s President ???
We must have missed something Min…after all if it’s in the paper it must be the truth… right?
Mr. Barroso was not referring to our Prime Minister, but readers of the ABC, Ltd News, and Fairfax will be none the wiser.
It’s true then, our President was ticked off by Mr. Barroso…who was offended because our President had wagged her finger at him and boasted blah blah..
‘Is that other site really stopping you from voicing your passionate concerns?’
The editor of Daily Trash has strong convictions on the issue of weather and doesn’t suffer fools gladly.
and we should
Someone has faith in the industry.
It sure makes sense to keep the present system. Nothing to be gained by going down the track of renewals.
I too am intolerant of fools.
Roswell, I believe you are easy going and can be a soft touch at times.
Listening to what el gordo has to say, we all are.
Cu, fools abound across the blogoshere. Unless they have something interesting to say I generally ignore them. I don’t have to delve too far into their comments before I identify their intentions.
Always the worker that pays.
Pyne looks older and thinner.
From Twitter – two opposing tweets –
[ACCC website]
Then there is this from Liberal Cruella Mirabella, spreading untruths on her Liberal website, about the hotline for reporting carbon tax rip-offs –
“Government bullies industry into silence “
http://newmatilda.com/sendstudio/display.php?M=9938&C=909c7c3c57b5b557684b370bab16f08d&L=9&N=1154
I think Burke might have scored one. No questions once again today. It appears that Burke has found a article with pictures Abbott supporting similar schemes.
They have taken down the link, but the article is still available.
Should have let him have his trip.
Pyne getting a little upset.
Remember Burke has the paper on the table for six weeks for debate.
Thank god somebody is around to wake up the sloths at the abc news web department who are doing copy/pastes from ltdnews and pretending it is their own.
The story on Barroso having a go at ‘critics’ has morphed slightly
What was
Europe fires back over Gillard’s G20 criticism
By chief political correspondent Simon Cullen
Updated June 19, 2012 12:14:48
European leaders have fired back at criticism from Australia and other G20 countries about their handling of the economic crisis.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-19/europe-fires-back-at-g20/4079008
Is now
Europe fires back over G20 criticism
By chief political correspondent Simon Cullen
Updated June 19, 2012 14:32:32
European leaders have fired back at criticism from G20 countries about their handling of the economic crisis.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-19/europe-fires-back-at-g20/4079008
Yes, if they had seen the actual comments (which other ‘reporters’ would have, they would have possibly caught onto the fact that Gillard’s (or Swans) comments, were not the target of their criticism.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18496985
This supposedly ‘balanced’ organisation always lead with a derogatory attack on the Government, yet are repeatedly caught out having to remove derogatory statement having to do with the Government. Something really needs to change over there.
‘Something really needs to change over there.’
I agree.
This from the Canadian Journalist who asked the questions:
And the relevant bits of Jose Manuel Barroso’s reply:
Tom R @2.52
But their ABC still managed to turn the story into a forum for Abbott.
Is there anything wrong with a high sense of entitlement, especially when it goes with a low sense of responsibility.
I note that ltdnews and their show pony haven’t let a few awkward facts get in the way of a another day of Gillard bashing
Abbott slammed Gillard for ‘hypocrisy’ over Europe advice
no link, screw ’em
Sometimes there are things called Classic Catches:
EG: The editor of Daily Trash has strong convictions on the issue of weather and doesn’t suffer fools gladly.
Cu: and we should
Once again, no stunt. No MSSO.
Cu, Roswell is most definitely a soft touch..and I could just about point you to the location. 😀
lol. Tweeter pwns reporter
At least he is man enough to change it. ltdnews remain with their heads in hte sand (when it suits)
Tom, amazing isn’t it..when Howard or indeed Kevin Rudd for that matter went overseas then especially with the former, the press were tripping over themselves at the opportunity to present the political leader of Australia as making a huge positive impression.
However when Julia attends a summit..well, we’ve all seen the result. Abbott says.. Joe Hockey says…
Tom, from your link. So it wasn’t just Australia’s PM urging other countries to act but it was..
Tom, he spoke at CEDA this morning. Some was on ABC 24 It was so interesting that they cut the line early. . Shorten also spoke. Trouble with the connection in his case.
PM now on ABC 24
Exactly Min The press gallery have gone off half cocked again. I await with baited breathe the ltdnews retraction. The ABC appear to be doing their bit (although no retraction, just updates so far)
Tom, I’m surprised that they have a cock to go half off at..umm, or something like that…
But oh do tell..EC President Barosso may have been misquoted by the msm…
Lower house. MPI on the Pacific Highway.
Every single street once you cross the bridge to the border in now held by the Opposition.
Tom, to follow on from you..
Trouble with the connection in his case.
The Labor pollies seem to get that a lot
Not that I am implying anything by that 😉
Link to Abbott’s speech.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/353660/20120619/tony-abbott-pm-gillard-ease-down-economic.htm
If anyone is interested, this is what the PM is saying.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/world/13971655/pm-gillard-urges-g20-action/
Wonder if shanana will be lining up for a ‘sorry’?
MPI. Pacific Highway. What are we getting from Truss. Carbon tax.
The Cultural Cringe temporarily disinterred for as long as it’s useful to those who seek to destroy this governmnet.
Milne is doing his little bit to spread misinformation..
What Mr. Abbott sees.
Why is Mr. Abbott promoting Mr. Howard. Is he making a come back?
Where is the money coming from:?
On asylum seekers, Abbott is as usual talking through a hole in his head. I wonder if Tony has read, or even heard about the 2 High Court rulings..probably not.
“The editor of Daily Trash has strong convictions on the issue of weather and doesn’t suffer fools gladly.”
That’s news to me…
Unles; “couldn’t care less about climate change” = “strong convictions about climate change”……
Reb, it was news to all of us. You’ve suffered quite a number of fools. 😉
I think she’s referring to this reb 😉
“Good afternoon and welcome to another scintillating installment of Weekend Rostrum, an open discussion where you can talk about anything you like, except climate change, which will see you banned instantly!”
https://farnhamreport.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/rostrum/
Thank you Bacchus..oh dear someone is in a spot of bother aren’t they. 😉
dear someone is in a spot of bother aren’t they.
Yes I am. But that’s because I am sick and tired of our media LYING to us.
That’s what you were referring to, wasn’t it ❓
But your attitude is pretty clearly spelt out in the CO2 thread:
http://farnhamreport.wordpress.com/c02-and-you/
😆
The wonderful Newman government..
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/newman-government-axes-funding-to-sisters-inside-female-prisoner-counselling-service/story-e6freoof-1226350980038
LOL – couldn’t happen to a nicer DLOTO
Ms Bishop had cause to unleash her “death stare” on Mr Burke this afternoon 😆
Bacchus, it seems that the tides are turning. 😀
Oh for fuck sake is there no depths Liberals will go to to trumpet themselves and put down Labor.
On The Drum admitting the Gillard put down by Barroso was bullshit they went on to say Gillard still had no reason to crow about Australia as it was all due to pure luck of a mining boom and good work by the previous Liberal government, Labor had nothing to do with it. That is actually what they said, Labor were lucky and had nothing to do with it and Rinehart would have made a better ambassador overseas.
Even when they’re shown to be wrong they still turn it round as a failure of Labor and the media, including the ABC don’t just go along with the guff but openly promote it and put their boots into Labor as well.
From this morning’s SMH:
I wonder what you get for the .5? 😯
And what .5 would that be?
Knowing my luck, it would be my better half 😦
Tom, at least she might be motivated to cook you really nice dinner that night. 😀
This plan is looking up all the time Min. Would I get to watch?
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(her cooking the dinner of course is what I meant)
Tom, she might even let you lick the spoon…
Much amusement in the cafe so early in the day…good morning all.
This is the best big picture we have (sorry if it offends) they are debating the Younger Dryas at Watts.
El gordo..yes indeed we had a rush of blood. 😉
Good morning to you too.
😉
Min and Tom R
That story had me intrigued, how do they do the measuring? Or what is the official standard patron?
In cooking there are many differing standards, imperial, metric and the americans have there very own.
Obviously the Court knows, did the reporter explain?
Sue, that is the thing which intrigued me too..how one could have .5 of a patron. I can actually think of quite a number of answers. 😆
For el gordo’s sake
Are there Carbon consequences? Will the tax mean the rate will drop to 1.44, allowing the standard carbon cost .06?
Well we better leave the carbon consequences to Tony on his national tour, starting July 1. He can address that when he finally gets to Sydney.
Listening to press conferences in Rio, you hear the marked differences between how our PM and the President and the journalists and the questions asked.
Our journos attack the PM for supposedly “nagging” the Europeans, the other journos ask the President “why don’t the Europeans listen to what you are saying and act to address their problems”
What @rseholes we have as excuse for journalists. If they were fair minded they could actually compare the economies of the USA and Australia and see whcih leader has done the better job of leading their nation.
Carbon pricing (CO2 emissions) and sex workers?
Are we talking about heavy breathing or Brazilian fart sex (See South Park episode)
I watched Bill Shorten admit on national TV that Carbon Pricing may have poisoned Phar Lap..
No source or context again though we have asked for this numerous times. Troll.
Good morning el gordo.
Had a good dig at work yesterday where one of our managers is attempting to justify a considerable price hike to a service we provide and he asked us into a meeting to canvass our ideas.
I told him to blame the carbon price, everyone else does.
He’s an arch conservative and has been going on about the toxic carbon tax for a while now. He wasn’t amused.
Ruling on the School Chaplains this morning, in the High Court..
Constitutional for employing the chaplains.
Against Constitution on the way the programme was funded.
Programme is in trouble.
Government still supports programme. Wonder how many chaplains are now being employed since the rules were changed to allow for welfare workers.
Have taken information from news ABC 24. Will have to wait for details.
Source…Watts
Context…do not be afrayd of AGW and was the Younger Dryas of alien origin.
Have taken information from news ABC 24
That’s always a risk 😉
Source…Watts
Context… Bullshit
Cu, that is excellent news. BIG Congratulations to Ronnie Williams!!! Ronnie has been fighting this one for years now. Ronnie had to tackle it under the Constitution, however his real concern is that school chaplains are not necessarily qualified psychologists nor qualified counsellors and so could do more harm than good. There have also been examples of some school chaplains trying to convert students to their particular religion, mostly Christian extremism.
The clock is ticking away. Mr. Abbott has set aside two weeks in July for his last futile lap around the nation on a lost cause.
Facts, that Mr. Abbott is happy to ignore.
Cu, apparently and according to Tony Windsor the carbon price legislation is a fairly complex work..Windsor stated that it would be etched in concrete, being almost impossible to repeal.
And against the idea of a DD election is that people do happen to remember the last time that the Liberals had control of both houses of parliament = WorkChoices.
Combet on at the NPC ABC 24
Anybody know if Abbott’s carbon trip includes a visit to Whyalla?
Anybody know if Abbott’s carbon trip includes a visit to Whyalla?
Jeez, they’d wished they’d been wiped off the map if that happens
What is ignored in the present rising cost of electricity is not in how it is introduced but in how it is distributed.
Carrying electricity of enormous grids that are thousands of kilometers long is very expensive.
These grids have not been maintained over the decades. It is hinted that much that is being spent today, is not necessary.
Maintaining and improving the network was put on hold, while awaiting decisions on what the carbon emission scheme.
Using renewals and other modern day methods of producing electricity, will lessen the need for extensive grids. Much will be produced on out roofs, or small plants near big towns.
It does not make sense to satay with coal and extensive power grids. That belongs to the last century.
It is the mismanagement of the states, of all political coloursm that electrity is so expensive.
The GEF is away of turning this around.
Nice to listen to Minister quiet explanations at the NPC. No ranting and raving.
Back onto the School chaplaincy program..interesting indeed.. at least for me it is. 😉
My bet is that this High Court ruling is the reason why Peter Garrett’s report on the funding of private schools has been delayed..
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/school-chaplaincy-program-is-constitutionally-invalid-high-court-20120620-20n2d.html#ixzz1yId2agFV
oh oh, it’s on again 😯
(so sayeth the scribes)
Tom, Latika is beginning to sound like a broken record…
It was a clever move of Mr. Howard’s to undermine what was mainly Labor states by direct funding. It appears that it is another of his sneaky actions, along with those dealing with the refugees, that has not survived High Court challenges.
I do hope they can find a way of keeping the welfare workers. They are needed.
Cu, my understanding is that welfare workers are funded by the States, the problem with the school chaplains is that they were/are directly funded by the Commonwealth.
News Ltd. is likely cutting divisions from 19 to 5.
Packer after Consolidated Media Holdings.
The finding was 6 to 1. Not a bad result. Maybe it is time to email Mr. Garrett that we would be happy to see the church mob go, but would like to see the welfare workers kept.
Range of different opinions from the judges.
ABS 24 Roxon and Garrett.
My own problem with the schools chaplaincy program is that there is (at least to my know) no requirement that these chaplains have any qualifications re psychology or counselling. I’ve been following Ronnie Williams’ effort via his facebook group and many instances have been brought to light where the chaplains were doing more harm than good – examples include going and telling a parent when a child complained about being abused and using their status at the school to convert children to their particular religion, mostly of the fundamentalist Christian variety.
Geezzzz why doesn’t someone, anyone, tell Latika to DO YOUR JOB rather than just tweet rubbish. Here’s a hint Latika,
read the 12 Wixxy articles
check out who in the LNP /Coalition is involved with Ashby
challenge Abbott on his Carbon Price predictions
ask why Minister Burke wasn’t allowed to travel to a once in 10 years conference
ask News ltd journos why they use sexist comments such as “nagging” when the PM is at an international conference
etc, etc
Sue, and she is the same on Facebook as well. Just my opinion, but it seems to be all about self-promotion rather than engaging anyone in any meaningful debate.
Tom, is the aim of the trip to show the world the destruction caused by the introduction of the non existing tax.
Will he show us all those snakes slithering out of the way.
Sue @ 2pm,
check out who in the LNP /Coalition is involved with Ashby
James Ashby worked for state MP out to get Peter Slipper
by: Lauren Wilson
From: The Australian
June 20, 2012 12:00AM
This can’t be right .. clearly the IMF haven’t been following Tony Abbott’s media releases from the House of Slitherin’
IMF backs carbon price
Adam Morton
June 19, 2012
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/imf-backs-carbon-price-20120618-20k9k.html#ixzz1yIyK3ocJ
Pip and Tony Abbott’s media releases from the House of Slitherin’.. 😆
Min, Garrett changed the rules to employ welfare workers, as well as clerics. Today, he described them as welfare students.
I believe this might have been because the state schools were not taking the offer up.
These I believe need only to have certificates. They are needed beside school counselors, as liaison officers between the student and families.
New in from wixxy..
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/jacksonville-13-how-to-frustrate-a-judge/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jacksonville-13-how-to-frustrate-a-judge
lol A. Albanese in QT
“It’s not our fault if the opposition asks Dorothy Dixers”
Today is World Refugee Day
Oxfam on Twitter says…
Yet, sooky Scott Morrison, Shadow for Immigration, is obsessing today about captain Emad!!
Min @ 2.40pm, Slitherin’ is a nod to Harry Potter… the Slitherin group were a nasty lot!!
Pip, this might suprise you but I actually did take the kids to see the Harry Potter movies. 😉
Abbott, Hockey mislead again on NBN funding
http://delimiter.com.au/2012/06/20/abbott-hockey-mislead-again-on-nbn-funding/
I had to laugh..
I like Latika.
El gordo, Latika also likes Latika..
Well how unsurprising. After making such a huge uproar over how bad the budget was and it would ruin us all, then totally rubbishing it in their budget reply whilst not offering anything in return, we get this.
Another Abbott fail and further proof he’s all mouth and false bravado but when it comes to delivering on his bluster he’s a coward and backs down or runs away.
Mobius, it’s such a joke isn’t it. Have we ever seen a more ineffectual Opposition. They jump up and down squeal that the sky is about to fall..but guess what, the Budget passes without one single solitary amendment.
Yoo hoo Migs. When you have a spare moment could you please send me the How To for putting Twitter info onto topic. Ta.
Isn’t it telling Min that oppositions against governments with large majorities, even with both houses, get more amendments and their own policies through than Abbott has against a minority government. I don’t think he’s got a single amendment in and not one of his policies tabled plus he’s only managed to block less than one handful of legislation.
What a loser.
Mobius, it’s most definitely about being able to walk the walk compared with talking and trying to make himself look pretty, and making somewhat delusionary promises. Abbott just doesn’t have the balls for the job..if you’ll pardon the expression.
This is reasonably good news for Julia, if only they could take advantage.
‘Prices in NSW have risen 70 per cent over the past five years and are forecast to jump another 18 per cent in the new financial; from Sunday week that is. The carbon price will contribute to just 8 per cent of that, according to IPART.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-real-culprits-behind-surging-power-bills-20120620-20njs.html#ixzz1yKHE4zud
Thank you so much Sally R. 🙂
A little truth.
As el gordo would say, galactic nooze.
Tomorrow I’m having a tooth surgically removed. It’s too infected to simply pull out and the root system is all over the place. A simple extraction just won’t do the trick. Because of the infection I’ve been warned to expect some intense pain as the needles don’t kill off the pain from infection. The after-pain is expected to be savage too.
It should be fun. I’m looking forward to it.
I have proof that God doesn’t exist.
I prayed to him for me to win Lotto over the weekend. I didn’t win. Therefore God doesn’t exist.
Or perhaps proof that Guidance does exist, same result but that it’s going to take a littlie bit longer.
Ps if the dentist forgets to mention it, gargle every hour or so with warm salt water.
I feel for you Migs
Apparently, having teeth pulled is akin to listening to chrissie ‘the gazelle’ pyne raising points of order
A swig or two of George Dickels at the appropriate time (continuously) should help alleviate the after-pain 😉
(also helps with man-flu)
Hope it all goes as well as can be hoped
By the way, this event is important enough for 87 Presidents or world leaders to attend.
I thought Whyalla was disappearing.
Cu, I think that the moot point from the action of Abbott refusing pairs for Tony Burke, is that they failed to bother even asking him a question. Wasn’t it that the government ended up having to pull a few Dorothy Dixers. Why refuse pairs and deny our Environment Minister the opportunity..then do zilch.
It’s illogical and irrational behavior.
They did have a weak effort from Mr. Truss yesterday with the MPI.
Abbott uses the Institute of Sport for his daily spiel and lies.
Ten seconds of praise for the gymnastics.
Why cannot the man stick to the truth. Why cannot they pull him up on the lies.
ABC24
Abbott during his daily spiel mentioned that the government was treating his bill to give people injured overseas by terrorist acst for compensation.
Minister Roxon has pointed out why they are in disagreement. It appeared that Mr. Howard on more than one occasion rejected similar policies.
Being dealt with at the moment.
Min, Abbott’s spiel is that these are only overseas jaunts and that Mr. Howard would never have behaved as she does. Funny, we have had many examples, where he behaved worse.
He criticized the PM for the letter, in spite that this is usual custom.
He repeated that the PM was slapped down by a president. Which has been proven to be false.
When one has to rely on lies, one does not have much to offer.
Administrator formally appointed. Outside the court, out Kathy complained of being denied justice. Is angry her affidavit was not addressed. Is working with a new legal team.
ANC24
Abbott in parliament, still trying to insist that the majority of electricity rise are due to the alleged carbon tax.
We know from what has been posted on this and other sites, this is not true.
There is a real story that needs investigating in how we are being ripped off with the present and recent rises.
Abbott very arrogant today.
One for el gordo
http://www.blogotariat.com/node/417793
Just in..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-21/asylum-seeker-boat-capsizes-en-route-to-australia/4084894
It’s hard to table bugger all, ME..
Aaagghhhh! on the tooth extraction, Migs. Hope it all goes well with the barest minimum of pain. Is there any way of sending any and all pain to the Liars party by psychic transfer?
CU, rumours of the disappearance of Whyalla have been greatly exaggerated by the Liars party, the shock jocks and Ltd News.
Au contraire, Min. It’s a very deliberate policy to stop the government from taking part in international fora like those being held in Rio and the Maldives
Thank you wixxy for pointing this one out..
And..
It seems to be a wise choice. Note: No point in sticking the boot in to someone who is clearly unwell.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-21/mary-jo-fisher-quits-politics/4084964
Min, Mary Jo Fisher has been pinged again for shop-lifting….she’s clearly unwell.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/senator-mary-jo-fisher-caught-shoplifting-again/story-fn59niix-1226404681902
Pip, it’s clearly irrational behaviour. Quitting for her health is clearly a wise choice.
‘Quitting for her health is clearly a wise choice.’
I agree and Craig should also seek professional advice…for the good of his electorate.
What an arsehole you are el gordo.. That’s the lowest you’ve ever gone and if you were attempting to be funny, it wasn’t.
Oh lookie here..all about Mal Brough..well goodness gracious I didn’t know that. Two investigations out on Brough..and police investigations at that. I wonder that that’s about.. (wry smile).
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2012/06/21/broughs-nomination-for-fisher-in-jeopardy/
I wonder if his very shaky deal to do with the Tiwi Islands is one of the investigations. I hope so.
I don’t know if he is guilty of trying to rort the Tiwis but something crook went on with the deals made and he was front and centre at the time.
Census data is interesting at this early stage of its release. The one stat that has caught my attention is a whopping 29% growth in those who say they are not religiously affiliated and they now make up the second biggest block behind the Catholics, who are dwindling.
It might explain why the Christian Churches are fighting so hard to have chaplaincies in schools so they can try to
convertbrainwash young minds.Mobius…so you think there is nothing wrong with Craig?
Of more interest, Mark Latham wants an ABC chair for a year so that he can dismantle the apparatus.
http://australianconservative.com/2012/03/mark-latham-offers-to-unleash-a-reign-of-privatisation-terror-at-the-abc/
Mobius
re Mal Brough
the federal investigation may have to do with Ashby, but Tiwi Islands I hope so.
the CMC is from the complaint about interference in the local govt elections, where one of the candidates said Mal offered money (?) for him not to run
Mobius, I have a sneaking suspicion that it all relates not only to Hyacinth pushing JWH..the power behind the throne, but that chaplains work a lot cheaper than qualified psychlogists and counsellors. Garrett is a bit too churchie for my liking..the govt would do well to phase the whole thing out.
Useless 7.30 mentioned the HSU case today, but the idiot/biased 7.30 just had to try and interview Thomson, even though the HSU East was a creation of Jackson and Williamson. Meanwhile NO mention of any of the investigation by Wixxy, who is up to 13 articles on Kathy Jackson. And the ABC claims balance.
El gordo, where is your brain girl! Thomson has Graves’ disease. Give it a rest please.
Min, I could believe that Shorten had a stand up brawl with out Kathy, I believe she would push anyone to lose it.
Wonder what the judge had to say today in his findings.
Sorry, i doubled up on the senator on Cafe 111
“Thomson has Graves’ disease.”
Nah – that’s Mr Oakeshott Min…
For stuff’s sake el gordo, just go. If you don’t know what you attempted then it’s you who needs help, and then you do your usual of throwing in a sidetrack.
Mark Latham and the ABC is of more interest than mental illness and the deliberate campaign being run to destroy a life for crass political gain of a power hungry bully?
Just get your pettiness out of here please.
With pleasure Min, its a torrid business, but what do you think of Latham’s idea of aunty’s privatisation?
There is also a new law that allows the electoral office to put names on the rolls from other sources, other than the person themselves enrolling.
Well over a million are at present not on the rolls.
The senior Ms. Bishop is up in arms over this. She has alleged that Labor is doing this because they believe the missing people will vote Labor.
So Labor is now being criticized for ensuring the tolls are up to date.
It is law that one is on the rolls when they turn 18.
grodo, I hope you’ve got an apology ready for Craig Thomson when all this is over.
The idea of Latham on the ABC board is somewhat intriguing. There’s a billy goat gruff who could dispatch the odd troll. 😆
Don’t the police know, Liberals are above the law. Why would the meeting with the company, stop staff from giving evidence, then put pressure on to get the charges withdrawn.
The police let one know that they were unhappy at the time.
Senator Fisher’s illness is not the problem. The interference by the party is.