Well said, Barry

Well said, Barry Tucker.

And then there’s this.

Sometimes a picture tells the the whole story and I’m relieved of the task of searching for something to say. And both of these say it all, really. In simple terms, the man is a hypocrite and perhaps, just perhaps, a liar. 😉

67 comments on “Well said, Barry

  1. “one term tone is both a liar and a hypocrite , is that why his wife left him ???”

    More hatred from the masters of hate.

    Bob Hawke threw out Hazel when she was no longer needed. Hazel have Hawke an extra 3% of the vote. That is all the mother of his children meant to him.

    Keating got rid of Anita for the same reason.

    I find it funny when ALP supporters bring up morality.

  2. No perhaps about it! The big problem is his all-encompassing incompetence. Incompetent in human management, incompetent in getting across the details, Incompetent in presentation, incompetent in understanding, Incompetent in empathy, incompetent in his financial affairs, incompetent as a family man. Worst of all is that he is an incompetent liar!

  3. “incompetent as a family man. ”

    Mate have you seen what Hawke and Keating did to their spouses.

    As soon as they were no longer needed they were thrown on the scrap heap.

    The only thing Hazel meant to Bob was an extra 3% of the vote and Keating was the same.

    And i suspect all ALP supporters do the same thing . When your spouse is no longer needed you throw them out.

  4. OMG NoS has crawled out of the rock he’s been hiding under. Typical RWNJ diversionary tactics. Looky over there, no, looky over there!!

    Yes Michael Barry has said it all & oh so succinctly. That is Abbott, to a T, in just a 140 characters or less

  5. Looky over there, no, looky over there!!”

    i was just commenting on the first post. No diversion i was just sticking up for Abbott.

    Hey Joy

    I think it is time you told another lie, like Abbott introduced a new rule- you only have to work one hour/week to be employed. Or more BS like that.

    Talking about waste Labor has run deficits of -27B, -54B, -47, -43, -19B and who knows what else.

    Hey but we are sovereign in our currency, let us print money and send $100 bills to everyone to pay our debts or some BS like that.

  6. NoS, Abbott’s wife has nothing to do with it except she is more than likely the brains in the family. The man is just an utter brain dead idiot full stop and sadly there are others of the same ilk out there who will vote for him.

  7. Neil, the only Masters degree Abbott has ever achieved is a master in lying, and what more, the voters who backed the LNP will be sorry and embarrassed for letting Australia down, Abbott is a poor excuse for a human being.

  8. Hey Neil, you’ve got the headlines down pat! It takes intelligence to investigate behind the headlines and understand how and why decisions are made, and how effective they are.

  9. Hey @ Neil of Sydney, are YOU overlooking, the only reason the Libs posted a profit, is that they SOLD EVERYTHING?
    *shakes head

  10. NoS
    Government spending is only “waste” if it is operational / non-capital. All of labors budget deficits were capital, and rightly so after GFC, and double rightly so for NBN which made up 20Bn of the last 26Bn deficit – and copied by countries that did not chase “austerity” (every one of those went into worse recession) and is why we chaired the G20 (they expected Swan to still be the treasurer – most of the world think we’re idiots for picking rabbott’s rejects) to allow one-term-tony to masturbate about western sydney politics on a global stage.
    You want government waste?
    $75k maternal package.
    $multi-billion polluters payments
    Big-cash ‘review’ jobs for absolute fucktards like kevin donnelly
    Scrapping the profit-making Australian Valuation office.
    Scrapping the profit-making clean energy fund.
    Giving $9 BILLION to the reserve bank one week after getting their pinkly polished arses into the decision making seats, just so Eleventy Joe can say “hey! $9bn extra funds” at the budget & hope no-one remembers it was him who gave it away in the first place. Reserve even tried to give it back, cos stupid fuckwit fiscal policy IS stupid fuckwit fiscal policy even if a liberal does it.
    Giving free lifeboats to people smugglers. “Thanks, Aus – this one goes way better than my old fishing boat”.

  11. Hey Lefties

    Your abuse rises as nice smelling incense for me.

    May it long continue. I count it as a a great honour that i am abused by you people.

  12. Tony is going to spend the the $126.2 million collected by the Rudd/Gillard Super Profits tax to bring the bastards to account. Nice move Tony…lol

  13. History of numerous inquiries of every type, have not led to many unionist been charged let alone jailed. Some of the employers were not so lucky.

    Abbott already has lost control of the agenda.

  14. “What does one call a person that seeks out abuse?

    More lies. I was just sticking up for Abbott after what the first post said.

    “one term tone is both a liar and a hypocrite , is that why his wife left him ??
    ?”

  15. Talking about waste Labor has run deficits of -27B, -54B, -47, -43, -19B and who knows what else.

    My response to that Neil is “thank Christ”.

    I thought after my polite explanation of budget basics to you recently in CafeTalk you might’ve just stopped and wondered if you really had a grip on this stuff.

    I was genuinely trying to explain something to you, not change your politics.

    I’m running out of analogies, but let me try one more:

    Deficits are like petrol that the government puts in the economy’s fuel tank. The economy will run for a while when the government runs a surplus, but it eventually comes to a stop. The deficit is not what you think it is.

    If you went looking to see where those so-called “deficits” got wasted, you’d find them initially in the bank accounts of Australian households or businesses, and then in the hands of the butcher, the baker, and whom-ever substitutes for the candle-maker these days. And finally, back to the government as taxes. 100%.

    The surpluses you seem to applaud always bring on recessions.

  16. I thought after my polite explanation of budget basics to you recently in CafeTalk you might’ve just stopped and wondered if you really had a grip on this stuff.

    MJ, I nearly choked on my coffee reading that. 😆

  17. “Those figures pale into insignificance when considering how much the unions have ripped out of Australians…billions!”

    Allowing for a little rhetorical exaggeration there Don, if you want to see a really good rort, look at commercial banking: licenced to literally to print money, to create money “out of thin air”, then lend it to us, and charge interest.

    Union rorting wouldn’t even come near some bank CEO’s salaries.

  18. The Don your right mate, Shorten is gutless, typical of the right. It is truly marvellous how the Right raise the level of debate. Thanks children, for the giggles.

  19. neil, your mates the coalition only achieved a surplus with a whopping new tax and by having a fire sale of public assets to the tune of 70 billion, hardly good economic management. Howard as prime minister was the prolifigate spender of his age, pissing revenue up the wall in corporate tax cuts and as treasurer under Frazer was our worst bar none ever, double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, double digit interest rates and a stagnant flat economy. It is labor governments that induce growth and increase GDP after the liberals have flatlined it consistantly with their 50 year old, proven to be a failure economic method.

  20. Mangrove, the policies of the right all centre around one thing, cheap labour. Take away welfare so their is no minimum amount people will work for. Step up law and order campaigns because criminals will work for anything when they get out. remove health care so people have to work harder and longer to pay for jacked up pharmeceuticals which their mates profit on. Lower education standards in public schools so they get a generation of low income workers who are dumb enough to vote for them when they hear the jingoistic slogans of the right. Slander and criminalise unions, the only organisations that do stand up for workers rights. Business’s do have a right to make money, but not by exploiting those that work for them. The liberals have been hypocritical in the extreme, they talk of stopping the waste yet their expense claims are nearly always three times that of labors. Now they are in government the fly around in a fleet of RAAF jets that cost the taxpayer three times what public airflights cost. If everyone in business treated their workers with the respect that they themselves would expect then we wouldn’t need unions. They have evolved from the heavy handed exploitation of the working class by business leaders so they only have themselves to blame. A good economy needs people earning sufficient money that they can spend, with sufficient job security that they will borrow and sufficient workplace health and safety and healthcare that they can live long productive lives. Business’s don’t generate wealth, their customers, us the working class, do.

  21. hey there middle class nil of sydney……… you should take a long hard look at the “mighty USA” .. do we want a health care debacle like they have…
    do we want creationism taught in our schools…
    do we want a feudal system.. where “Lairds and Ladies” get tax breaks and the low income earners become the “LOWER CLASS”
    DO WE WANT 90% of the wealth owned by 1% of the people…..
    do we want a government driven by money and not social policy….

    i am guessing you do… Neil of Sydney….i want to live in a country that cares for the PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN IT //……
    not the big business not the multinational companies that are reaping billions of dollars in profit.. and bleating for tax cuts.. subsidy’s…silent unions… wage reductions.. etc….
    i served my country…. i will do so again… i will bet my bottom dollar you have never done a thing but take from it… like your mate tony….
    wakey wakey hands of snakey …

  22. “neil, your mates the coalition only achieved a surplus with a whopping new tax and by having a fire sale of public assets to the tune of 70 billion

    Mate it is round and round the mulberry bush with you lot but here i go again.

    Money from Howard/Costello asset sales was not put into the budget as revenue. Otherwise there would have been three huge surplus budgets when T1,T2 and T3 were sold. Money from asset sales was used to pay off debt however.

    I think Costello ran aprrox $100B in surplus budgets plus $70B in asset sales meaning the Commonwealth was approx $170B better off at the end of the Howard govt.

    And by the way it took a parliament house riot by violent and nasty lefties (ie. you lot) plus not one, two but 6 surplus budgets before we got our AAA credit rating back which we lost under Hawke/Keating.

  23. Rick and Allan, we need to hear more from you. The lies of the Howard/Costello admirers tends to be spruiked loud and long so that people end up believing them. Asked to list the infrastructure implemented by Libs is always a telling exercise. Labor advances Australia, Libs try to to take us backwards.

  24. I hope somebody is keeping an index of “Chauncey” Neil’s little pearls of wisdom.

    One day they might form the basis of a homework assignment for beginning students under the title “ Common Myths, Fallacies and Misunderstandings in Macroeconomics”, or if he can keep it up, perhaps a book.

    Professor Bill Mitchell:

    If the government tries to run on-going surpluses (or even balanced budgets) then it is also signalling that it is happy that the private domestic sector is running persistent deficits (as flows) and the stock implications of that are simple – they will be accumulating increasing levels of indebtedness.
    The problem with this strategy is that it is unsustainable and eventually the system will crash under the burden of the private debt
    .”

    As it did.

    Neil:

    I think Costello ran aprrox $100B in surplus budgets plus $70B in asset sales meaning the Commonwealth was approx $170B better off at the end of the Howard govt.

    Your numbers are wrong Neil, but that’s irrelevant. The “elephant” you can’t see is the mountain of household debt that was the counterweight to the Costello surpluses that still hangs around our neck like a dead albatross.

  25. “Mate it is round and round the mulberry bush with you lot but here i go again.”

    That’s only because you seem incapable of grasping a simple concept.

  26. Mr. Abbott is confident that employers will not end up the focus of his RC.

    One should ask, why would this not be so, as it they that pay the alleged bribes.

  27. “Your numbers are wrong Neil, but that’s irrelevant.

    mate my numbers were right and that is what is all i wanted to say.

    “I think Costello ran approx $100B in surplus budgets plus $70B in asset sales meaning the Commonwealth was approx $170B better off at the end of the Howard govt.”

    The above statement is correct otherwise where did all the money in the Future Fund come from??

    Through a combination of asset sales and surplus budgets Costello paid off all Commonwealth govt debt which was 18% of GDP and had enough left over for $70-80B in the Future Fund.

  28. Lets face it Nil of Stupidity, we tolerate you out of sympathy, and you keep returning only because you desperately are caught between two worlds that your mind cannot reconcile together and you’re confused. Otherwise, why would you bother to keep coming back into this site.
    But we hear your pain, and that naturally bring out the humanity in us, so as long as you bitch and moan, we will endeavor to try to help you out of your misery. Smile, even if it just for the fact you are tolerated somewhere.
    Cheers

  29. Rick, who was the treasurer under Fraser, who actions led to that wonderful state, that of stagnation.

    The head of the Council Social Services agrees with Hockey, that the end of the age, of entitlement should be here.
    Only trouble seems to be, she was talking about raising benefits to those in need, while repealing rebates and handouts to the rich.

    Negative gearing should be the first to go. Then, the churning of income, thorough super.

    It is said, thanks to Howard’s changes, one with their own home and up to a million in investments still receive a partial pension. Sure earn many rebates while they amass those investments.

    Yes, it is said, 15 billion can be found there.

    What’s more the Council believes that any cuts at this time would harm the economy. When it comes to raising benefits, these feeds immediately back into the economy. Any money given elsewhere is only saved.

    It was these changes of Howard, among others, he made at the time, that has led to the structural imbalance within the budget.

  30. Mr. Abbott, another message. It seems to be apparent, listening to feedback in the MSM, most are interested in dealing with corruption that appears to be apparent in the construction industry.

    They want to see more, than an attack on unions and workers. They want the whole industry examined. Yes, employers, contractors and developers,

    Mr. Abbott, none but you have the faith, or your insight, that says it is only unions at fault.

  31. Gutless little prick Shorten

    That is pretty gutless. Looks like he is running already, before the fight has even started. I hope he isn’t s naive to think that he can somehow appease the Liberals. If he gives an inch, they’ll take a mile. And nothing will stop them from mentioning his name EVERY time their commission into witchhunts finds any tenuous link to Union malfeasance.

    He is not going to make him One Term Tony by curling up into a ball.

    Perhaps he needs to read this?

    http://theconversation.com/navy-burns-the-governments-obligation-to-investigate-22939

  32. Labor hire services need to be also investigated in that wasteful RC as well. They do not seem to be coming up clean at all.

    What is wrong with referring the so called allegations to the ACCC or ASIC, along with the police.

    Abbott seems to believe he is a god, that can control where his wide ranging RC is going to end up. If so, he will be the first to do so.

    Does he really believe the union will sit back, going on the defensive.

    I am sure that will not be the case. I suspect, they know better than Abbott where the sleeping dogs lay. I suspect many will see the light of day, as the unions go on the attack.

    Interesting time ahead. Maybe this time, the construction industry will be accidentally cleaned up.

    I do hope that the HSU books are opened up, as they have said they will be. I wonder who would have the most to fear from such an action.

  33. What is wrong with referring the so called allegations to the ACCC or ASIC., along with the police.

    tabot doesn’t have any control over what they might find

  34. Tom R, this one is up to the unions to take the lead. If Shorten opens his mouth to large, the focus will be back on him, and how Labor is in the clutches of unions.

    We know this is not true, that there are two arms of the Labor movement. Yes, the political and industrial arms.

    The Abbott’s aim is to make this appear to be something that is not desired., Something bad. Yes, unions are once again to replace reds under the beds, and terrorism, I suspect. He has added colour, with a handful of nickels.

    According to Abbott, we do indeed need to be afraid.

    Yes, I think the time is nearly ripe for Labor to begin its attack in full. Maybe we need to give Abbott a little more rope.

    The focus needs to remain on Abboitt.

    There are many out there, with no political connections, that are stirring. Do not like what they are seeing. People who seem to be seeing things, as we lefties do.

    They are forming into groups under the banner of Getup. Yes, lobbying directly with their local members.

    Getup seems to be providing the network to allow this to happen. Each group decides what their agenda and concerns are.

    I joined such a group yesterday, and I am impressed. Suggest others follow my lead.

    There are more ways to stand together, than joining a party or union.

    Most that attended are politically literate, up to date on what is occurring. None seem to be pushing a personal barrow.

    Just concerned people, with no party background.

    Sick of hearing about Corby.

  35. Is this not what Labor said for most of last year. A quick return to Neils beloved surpluses is not an option. Yesd, but Abbott and Co are still saying, this is the path they are going down.

    Seems Hockey and Abbott areas usual,m the only ones in step.

    A leading business group has warned the Abbott government that deep spending cuts in the May budget will hurt the already weak economy.

    The treasurer, Joe Hockey, has been preparing the public and the business community for an austere first budget, declaring the “age of entitlement” had been replaced by the “age of responsibility” for both households and industry.

    But the Australian Industry Group has cautioned Hockey not to try and return the budget to surplus too fast, saying it should appropriately take the rest of the decade.

    It argues the government should increase the commonwealth’s spending on training by 3% by 2025; quarantine key industry and research programs from cuts; and protect funding to the Australian Renewable Energy Agency (Arena) – measures it argues will ensure growth and help jobs shift to new industries as the investment phase of the mining boom slows.

    “It is critical that the path to fiscal consolidation does not worsen the current patch of slow growth in the economy,” it argues in its budget submission.

    “AI Group’s close liaison with a broad cross-section of the business community suggests clearly that the economy is very unlikely to be in a position to withstand big aggregate spending cuts or tax increases in 2014-15 without provoking slower growth and lower revenue collections.

    “This is, essen………

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/10/business-group-warns-government-against-tough-budgett

  36. Are they saying, that most of the CEF suite of bills should remain.

    .t argues the government should increase the commonwealth’s spending on training by 3% by 2025; quarantine key industry and research programs from cuts; and protect funding to the Australian Renewable Energy Agency (Arena) – measures it argues will ensure growth and help jobs shift to new industries as the investment phase of the mining boom slows….

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/10/business-group-warns-government-against-tough-budgett

  37. ………The government has given its commission of audit, chaired by the Business Council of Australia chairman, Tony Shepherd, the job of finding deep spending cuts that will deliver a budget surplus of about 1% of GDP – or about $26bn – in 2023-24. The December budget update showed a deficit of $47bn this year and deficits stretching out to 2023-24.

    Hockey has said he expects to adopt most of the commission’s recommendations. The first phase of the report is expected to be delivered within days and the second phase by the end of Mar.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/10/business-group-warns-government-against-tough-budgett

  38. Pyne out. Trying to tie shorten to his union background. Shortens biggest problem will be showing, he has moved on from that role, and now leads the political Labor party, in Opposition.

    Yes, they will love to keep the spotlight on Shorten, not what the unions are saying. I suspect the unions are quite capable of taking the battle to Abbott.

  39. Time is getting on, Shorten has to go. We cannot win with this man. Sorry, he may be a very nice fellow, he just hasn’t got it. He should get sick and retire, leaving the way open for Albo. Albo can win, he has charisma and the gift of the gab. Shorten does not. Shorten has baggage, I am not going to canvass it here, everyone knows his past.

    If there was any litmus test for Shorten the Griffiths by election was it. Labor should have romped this in/in the current climate. We can analyse it all we like yes we won, with the preferences of the Greens who the Labor party want to dump.

    THEY HAVE LOST THE PLOT.

  40. “Shorten has baggage, I am not going to canvass it here, everyone knows his past.

    I would think that would make him a natural for the ALP leadership.

  41. Neil,

    I have to apologise, your numbers were correct. My mistake (I checked the AOFM website).

    But as I said, they’re irrelevant.

    A bigger surplus is not like a bigger dick. The Costello surpluses were, to pursue the metaphor, like taking said dick and slamming the door on it.

    It still hurts and the bruising hasn’t gone away.

    And Hockey want to do it again.

    You LNP supporters must be kinky or masochists.

  42. “I would think that would make him a natural for the ALP leadership.”

    Hardy ha ha. You’re about as funny as a bad case of haemorrhoids.

  43. “Business group warns Abbott government against tough budget cuts”

    “Australian Industry Group says Coalition’s plans for economic austerity risk damaging an already weak economy”

    The Guardian

    “Fortunately, Australia’s fiscal position is still in good enough shape to allow a little breathing space before a longer-term fiscal consolidation, and the emphasis in assessing the 2014-15 budget should be on the credibility of savings measures that grow over and beyond the forward estimates rather than on the anticipated bottom-line outcome for the 2014-15 year.”

  44. “But as I said, they’re irrelevant.”

    OK. but that was not the point i was trying to make. Whether Costello should have run surplus budgets is another question.

    I was just trying to get rid of the fallacy that Costello ran surplus budgets because of asset sales.

    Costello ran $100B of surplus budgets and $70B of asset sales. That paid off all the debt inherited in 1996 and enough left over to start a $70B Future Fund with some $20B in the bank as well.

    Hopefully we can move on instead of me repeating myself 5 million times.

  45. It’s a Pyrrhic victory Neil.

    Costello ran $100B of surplus budgets and $70B of asset sales. That paid off all the debt inherited in 1996 and enough left over to start a $70B Future Fund with some $20B in the bank as well.

    Bill Mitchell:

    The Commonwealth’s ability to make timely payment of its own currency is never numerically constrained by revenues from taxing and/or borrowing. Therefore the purchase of a superannuation fund (in this case the Future Fund) in no way enhances the government’s ability to meet future obligations. In fact, the entire concept of government pre-funding an unfunded liability in its currency of issue has no application whatsoever in the context of a flexible exchange rate and the modern monetary system. That is, it represents lunacy!

    Two former Secretary’s of The Treasury (John Stone and Ken Henry) have also ridiculed the idea of a Future Fund, originally a Labor idea.

    You still seem to think the national budget is no different from that of a household, where saving at the individual level can be a good thing (but not however if the kids have to go to school in bare feet).

    Exulting over surpluses (“money in the bank”) is like praying to the heavens and giving thanks to God for saving rain in a drought.

  46. the Libs now have billions to play with now that the Automotive Industry is down the toilet. Someone should pose the question to Tony Abbott on what he considers the perfect society to be. No Unions, No funding, No Social Security payments – lower wages; all bludgers I guess in his utopic dream, but lets lesson the taxes on our multi million dollar corporates, mining, banking, power industries. Interesting also that Tony wants to throw billions as roads, one has to question if these roads are going to benefit his mining industry mates.

  47. the Libs now have billions to play with now that the Automotive Industry is down the toilet.

    It all depends on how long they’ll have to pay unemployment benefits to the families of the unemployed workers, cassilva.

    The purpose of the exercise however is not to save money, it’s to hasten the demise of those sectors of the economy where there are still remnants of organised labour, a kind of industrial genocide.

    The Coalition probably has a fair idea that the economy is heading for troubled waters but they are ideologically constrained from employing Keynesian remedies that we know work.

    If the public can be “educated” to join the Coalition in the demonisation of unions it won’t be difficult, when the time comes, to blame them for the deteriorating state of the economy.

  48. Keynesian economics is about governments creating jobs when in recession, which is exactly what the labor government did. Keynesian economics says spend to ensure employment when private enterprise is failing and which is why the Hoover Dam was built during the great depression. Secondly the unemployment benefits work out to $15,000 a year and provided that the spouse does not work, so its a blip on the economy. Thirdly tariffs that we have been paying should have covered government funding to the Motor Industry and it will be interesting to see if the Abbott Government removes those tariffs now that there is no industry to support. Let’s just see if the price of imported cars becomes cheaper. What are the odds??????

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