Sorry, but I’ve changed my mind. I was paid to.

In October Malcolm Turnbull announced the appointment of former Tesltra boss Ziggy Switkowski as NBN Co to lead a three-person board overseeing the national broadband network.

In his inaugural appearance at a senate estimates hearing, Switkowski said Telstra’s copper network is ‘robust’ and has been well-maintained for decades. Concerns expressed about the network not being up to being the basis for a FttN NBN, he added, were “misinformed”. He stressed that:

The copper network has been in place for a long time. It’s constantly being maintained, remediated, upgraded.

Readers here will be all to well aware of the criticism of the government’s plan to provide the NBN through Telstra’s copper network; an antiquated alternative to Rudd’s NBN, the future of which is now in doubt.

But it’s remarkable to hear Switkowski’s glowing praise of the copper network when compared to what Telstra had to say about it in 2003 while he was chief of the telco:

Telstra will replace its century-old copper wire phone network with new technology within the next 15 years, saying the ageing lines are now at “five minutes to midnight”.

Telstra executives revealed the problem at a Senate inquiry into broadband services on Wednesday.

Go figure.

I guess it’s easy to change your mind when the government pays you lots of money to do so.

(Thanks to Kaye Lee and Bacchus for this post).

74 comments on “Sorry, but I’ve changed my mind. I was paid to.

  1. Ziggy should know he’s working for someone else now. He has just talked up the value of the network his NEW boss is expects to get for FREE. Well done Ziggy, there will be a bonus in your pay packet on Friday!

  2. Positions Vacant: Hypocrite.
    Key Selection Criteria: Must be able to lie constantly while keeping straight face.
    Must be fit and above all – agile! as constant back-flipping is required.
    Must have proven track record of lack of any diplomacy skills.
    Applicants should send resume and cover letter to:
    Office of the Prime Minister attn. P Credlin.
    Applicants should also note that PM’s office is a Brain Free Workplace (and we aim to keep it that way).

  3. Give the prick a pair of overalls and an f set and get him to find a working o pair from a pillar tail… Bit of practical reality. Ziggy like Malcolm wouldn’t know their ass from their elbow…contemptuous political opportunists who spout acronyms of which they have no idea of the meaning thereof, the Avon ladies of industry….all paint and no flesh.

  4. Ziggy has failed at everything he was appointed to do and made a fortune doing it. every company he was in charge of was run into the ground and went from being a top quality service provider to a broken shamble.

  5. Ziggy has always been one of my favourite public figures: I was so THRILLED to learn he’s been resurrected. I just KNEW he’d be able to sort us all out about that silly old NBN! I mean, who on earth WOULDN’T we want to have much slower speeds much sooner?!
    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr …

  6. According to a NSW minister, the social media is getting it right, with the discussion of that guilty verdict of murder today.

  7. At the end of the day, no one knows the condition of that copper wire. No one.

    Except those working on it daily Fu, and then only for their own “patch” 😉

    I also strongly believe that inside Telstra there would be very detailed reports on the state of the customer access network, but it certainly isn’t in their interests to be publicly up front about that now…

  8. FU, I don’t know about elsewhere but where I am, paying for ADSL+ getting dial up speeds, except when it rains when it drops out every five minutes. And I have fibre, put in by the State Government for State departments, passing by the front gate.

  9. Filly, I do not get what I pay for. Suspect, as this is a newer area, the copper is not too bad.

    Fibre to the premises is the on;y way to go./ Any other scheme will cost more, be inferior in the long, no near run.

    I see all being handed back to Telstra. The efforts and expense that Labor spent unscrambling that egg will be wasted.

    The only way, I can see this not happening, that they quickly drop Abbott and co, and a new, more moderated mob took over.

    I can see Abbott going. I cannot see who would replace them.

    If this happened, I think Turnbull would quickly revert back to then NBN we have now.

    Same goes for all that Abbott has become obsessed with.

  10. Bacchus, I have read, that not even Telstra knows. Mainly because it is very expensive to do an audited or whatever one calls it, of the wire. It appears we do not have enough people with the necessary qualifications to do it.

    Telstra, it seems have been happy enough to deal with the problems as they arise. They also have no idea of the number of asbestos laden pits.

    Yes, those working on it, do say, that it is not up to scratch.

    Labor has it right, using the ducts and pits. When one thinks of it, not much different to splicing onto copper.

    I can still remember the stupidity of living in Wentworthville, with Fox-tell hanging wire one side of the street, Optus the other. Ended up with both connected to the house. Had three generations living in the home at the time.

    I wonder if the two states and NT, that are getting the money from Pyne today, have been asked to make promises to match the payment, as those, who signed under Labor had to do.

    According to Pyne, it seems to be given, with no strings attached. Therefor they will be free to cut their own education funding.

  11. I would make a guess, that Telstra has no idea of the state of the ducts and pits, let alone the copper that runs through them.

    We know this, from the hurdle and holdup, NBNCo faces with the asbestos. This in spite of belong told on more than one occasion, that they were fit to use. It was Telstra’s responsibility to deliver usable pits and ducts. This they failed to do.

  12. The research for Gonski was carried out over give years. S lot for Pyne to throw out, saying they have it wrong.

  13. “”The current thinking is that there would be testing done. Whether it informs the strategic review or whether the strategic review makes some assumptions to be then tested, I think that is the way we would frame it at this point,” Mr Adcock said.

    The federal government will either buy the network or lease it. Buying it would likely require the government-owned NBN Co to maintain the network, while leasing it could potentially see that left to Telstra.

    The state of Australia’s copper network has long been a focus because critics say that it has deteriorated and might not provide the download speed of 100 megabits per second the Coalition eventually wants to deliver over it, with technologies like VDSL2 vectoring.

    The Coalition has promised to replace any copper that doesn’t achieve the speeds promised but critics say the true state of the copper network is not known, and its costly replacement could blowout the Coalition’s NBN costings..”

  14. Whichever way it finishes up this will be the first bit of infrastructure the right wingers have put in for the average bloke since federation.
    I’ll take a $5 bet that the copper wire will be found to be faulty in the really safe LNP seats and will need to be fibre to the premises in those areas.
    Not being cynical in the least.

  15. Oh I reckon the information would be there within Telstra Fu – it’s just not in their commercial interests to admit that they could, without too much effort, cobble together a pretty accurate picture in a relatively short time.

    They would obviously report internally on fault rates for each area – that’s how they know how to resource various areas, and when to move staff around to assist really faulty areas. I suspect they would probably have quite sophisticated software to analyse cable faults over time and areas as well.

    Early this year, my neighbour over the back fence was without a fixed line phone for about three months while they hauled in new copper to replace the existing cable which had too many faulty pairs to be usable any longer (this was during the big wet). How did they know the cable needed replacing? Where did the data come from? 😉

    The data MAY not be nationally collated, but would almost certainly exist in some form within the organisation…

  16. Tony presents TurnBULL as an IT expert. He is a merchant banker. tony gave him the job of “destroying the NBN”. He may get his wish even now. Abbott’s mob are Barbarians. They destroy, rather than appreciate and build. Don’t trust anyone who thinks the future is some glorious past…Abbott’s disconnect from reality is almost total. Don’t blame me . I didn’t vote for the fool. Someone else elected them.

  17. In 2005, when we were still the major shareholders in Telstra, they put forward a proposal to start replacing copper with fibre to the node. Howard sent them to the ACCC where they reached an impasse and dropped the plan. Former ACCC chairman, Graeme Samuel later said the proposal was “an illusion on cost and on the capacity to truly deliver high-speed broadband to end users”.

  18. Ziggy says the copper network is robust in one breath, then he says he doesn’t REALLY know anything and that they haven’t actually looked into it yet.

    “Switkowski said that prior to the strategic review, NBN Co had not undertaken an assessment of where the copper network would not be suitable for fibre to the node.

    “It’s a question in front of us. We have most recently started a process of working with Telstra on a pilot approach which will give us more information about fibre to the node on a copper network, how to scale it, and may well reveal if there are unanticipated issues with the network,” he said.

    “Clearly I don’t have recent Telstra information except anecdotal material, and my feeling is the network in 2013, the fault rate might be higher than it was in the time I was at Telstra, but perhaps not materially higher and hard to disengage from weather patterns. Fault rates in the early part of the last decade were lower because it was drier. When it gets wetter, that exposes the copper to some extent.”

    His FEELING?????? Is this like John Howard’s feelings about climate change???

  19. Telstra would certainly know the state of its copper cables and have already suggested that maintenance costs would be exhorbitant if the copper network was to be retained.
    When they were privatised they took the usual route and cut costs – mainly staff and maintenance – and Sol Trujillo canvassed the idea of replacing it with fibre back then as being the cheaper long-term option.

    A quick look at our Kiwi cousins will show that they have abandoned FTTN and are moving to FTTH.

  20. Interesting article from 2003…yes 2003 – 10 years ago

    “Telstra is not interested in broadband TV for two reasons: Australia’s ADSL network is far too slow, notwithstanding last week’s whiz-bang pricing relaunch, and Telstra owns half of Foxtel.

    PCCW’s broadband TV is “a la carte”; that is, you pay for each channel separately, buying as few or as many as you want for between $US1.50 ($2.03) and $US5 a month.

    That is exactly what Foxtel won’t do. In Australia, you have to buy the package – 37 channels (“Essentials”) for $39.95 a month, rising to $78.85 a month for “Essentials plus movies plus entertainment plus”. An a la carte competitor would be Foxtel’s nemesis.

    Meanwhile, in the US, BellSouth, SBC Communications and Verizon have agreed on technical standards for a joint fibre-to-the-home (FTTH) network in the US. If broadband is the future of TV and telecoms, then FTTH is the future of broadband.

    A month ago, before a Senate committee inquiry into broadband competition, Telstra’s Bill Scales and Tony Warren rather let the cat out of the bag.

    Warren, group manager, regulatory strategy, told the committee: “I think it is right to suggest that ADSL is an interim technology. It is probably the last sweating, if you like, of the old copper network assets. In copper years, if you like, we are at a sort of transition – we are at five minutes to midnight.”

    A few minutes later his boss, Bill Scales, attempted to bury this bit of candour: “The only point of clarification, just so that there is no misunderstanding, is that when we think about the copper network, we are still thinking about 10 years out. So five minutes to midnight in this context . . .”

    Dr Warren (chiming in): “Doesn’t mean five years.”

    Mr Scales: “It does not. It could be 10 or even 15 years, just to get some context into that.”

    Trouble is, in world terms, Telstra is flogging a sick horse, if not quite a dead one, and the world is rapidly moving towards FTTH – including in Australia. TransACT has laid fibre to the home in Canberra; Western Power subsidiary Bright Telecommunications is doing it in Perth.

    Telstra’s spin is that it doesn’t know what the future holds. Warren again (to the Senate committee): “I think it is fair to say that everyone is thinking, ‘What’s the next network?’ and a lot of parties are trying to put down bets. Telstra is obviously asking: ‘Which bet do we put down? Is it wireless? Is it satellite? Is it fibre to the home? Is it whatever?’ ”

    It’s fibre to the home, Tony. You know it, I know it and Ziggy knows it. But it’ll cost $15 billion to cover Australia, and a third of that will never be economic because of the long distances of fibre with no one connected in between. Australia, and Telstra, are different to Hong Kong and the US.”

  21. Bacchus, listening to senate hearings at this time. Seem no one knows anything. It also appears the are not interested in finding out.

    There are three questions that need to be asked when it comes to NBN lite/fraud.
    ! What is the state of the copper wire now?

    2 How much will it cost to remediate, to bring it up to some useful standard.

    3 How much will it cost to maintain.

    Everything else is irrelevant.

    I do hope the plastic bags they are using to hold the system together, are not degradable.

  22. They’re not interested in finding out – that’s the key. I reckon they easily could if they wanted to. Why and who benefits? Are they softening us up to dump NBN altogether & hand everything back to Telstra?

  23. I don’t agree that everything else is irrelevant. There are many issues here to consider.

    Greenfields developments, usually the cheapest housing, will be developed with fibre. Some areas have already been hooked up to FttP. I don’t think the implications for house and rental prices has been considered. If we are all paying for it we should all have the same access.

    Another factor which isn’t receiving sufficient attention imo, is the rollout time. Malcolm has a shitload of work to do before he even starts building his 60,000 nodes. One of their big selling points is that availability would be there quicker – by 2016 in fact. Considering they are starting from scratch, I cannot see this happening. Will this be yet another broken promise?

    I agree assessing the viability of the copper network must be a priority if they intend pursuing their version of Fraudband, but I have no confidence that the truth will be told. It sure hasn’t been up to now.

  24. and this one, we must not forget.

    Onceagain, with Suu Kyi, has to turn the welcome speech back to himself. I was once a Opposition leader…………..

    No recognition of his comment from this lady. Talking about why she is here. World Aid day.

  25. At least the media are now questioning Abbott. Will be hard to walk off, with that gracious woman standing beside him. Still has not responded to Indonesia.

    Now one on the Chinese. Calling in the Chinese ambassador.

    Sounds like he has a cold.

    Questions are going back and forwards.

  26. Tony said, in relation to China’s “tell us if you are going to fly here” rule, we will be advised by, and abide by, international law. Except when it refers to the occupied territories in Palestine, it appears.

  27. Bacchus, you are spot on. NBN lite/fraud will never see the light of the day.

    Today, we have Hockey, wanting to reinvest in Qantas. Why?

    It was clear today, that there has been no work done, investigating the state of the copper wire/ll plans they are looking on, must rely on.

    The one that does not is NBNCo. Even they have run into trouble with the state of the pits and ducts, never mind the wire that runes through them.

  28. Kaye Lee ” Except when it refers to the occupied territories in Palestine, it appears.”
    Exactly, the longest most brutal occupation in the history of all mankind facilitated by the US and the UK for nearly 70 years.

  29. Get your glasses checked misnomer, and if you don’t wear any get your eyes checked. I think you thought you were looking at Bromwyn Bishop.

    Now Gillard, there’s one woman whose not only hot but is intelligent as well, unlike the dimwitted Bishop the younger.

  30. A site worth a visit.

    An even more recent manifestation of this pandering to rednecks was to be found in the vulgar message on Twitter of the Liberal Party’s oafish opinion pollster, Mark Textor: “Apology demanded from Australia by a bloke who looks like a 1970s Pilipino porn star and has ethics to match”.

    Marty, a graduate of the London School of Economics and Cambridge with a doctorate from The Australian National University, was probably being generous when he described the contribution of this fool as “desperate”.

    Yet when given the opportunity in the House of Representatives publicly to cut his party’s ties to Textor’s firm, Abbott notably declined to do so.

    Where all this will end remains unclear. It will probably take an armada of asylum seeker boats to drive home to the likes of Abbott and Morrison that Indonesia cannot be treated simply as a large Nauru, full of people in need of Australian tutelage.

  31. Mobius, I will not say, what the photo reminds me of, but I can understand some men, of a certain type getting excited.

    Wonder what the money is like, in the type of work that comes to mind.

  32. Listening to Lateline. Hugh White said there is ten percent chance the China situation could end up in war.

    They are saying that Abbott going out of his way, to talk about being best friends with Japan could put China off side. Some concern that Abbott and Bishop has unnecessary in the centre of this dispute.

    Have we ever had a PM within 72 days if taking office create so much turmoil from his first trip overseas,

    One was joking, when we made cracks about this man leading us yo war. Not so sure now.

    Lateline took out the Walkley Award for Current affairs with it’s coverage of the cover up of sexual abuse in the Hunter region.

    As for Qantas, time ti cut them free, Cannot see any benefit of having them as a so call icon.

    What game is Hockey plating. They are in government. His actions are surreal.

  33. Late Business ABC 1 is worth following. Highly critical of government, letting big business run the agenda, at the expense of small business. Ross Garnaut and others.

    I think Joyce and Qantas today, is another example.

  34. It has to be a horrible nightmare, and we will all wake up.

    The teachable moment
    If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, it never happened — that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death?

    – George Orwell Nineteen Eighty-Four
    Events come and go, and all newly-elected governments have teething problems. It’s tempting to confuse (or, in wishful terms, conflate) teething problems with crippling deficiencies that will ultimately do for this government. Yet, there are deficiencies among the Coalition that were detectable before they entered government. They are well and truly on display right now. There is no evidence of bureaucratic envelopment or wise counsel or other measures that might help this government grow the brains and capabilities that it so copiously lacks, and has always lacked.

    Apart from Abbott himself, nobody in the Cabinet is more media-savvy than Scott Morrison. Morrison underestimated his skill in being all over the media before the election, and then engaging in blocking tactics afterwards (e.g. refusing to confirm his own statements, refusing to confirm that he talks to the PM, using a staff officer to lend him the authority that he lacks). The dissonance in Morrison being present yet absent for the media, and the fact that the Indonesian government (and the Indonesian media) is being as sensitive to Australia’s internal politics as Abbott (and the Australian media) was to its, all makes for something of a gap between the responsible adult government we were promised and the shambles we were delivered.

  35. Love this.

    .A government that wastes time eradicating any trace of the previous government incurs two big opportunity costs. First, you can’t blame a government for all your woes and constraints if nobody remembers them. Second, and more tellingly, a lot of the big scope for action gets frittered away as momentum and goodwill dissipate – as they do, and nobody in the backroom or at the top table knows how to stop it. Labor, the Greens and other parties aren’t exactly cringing before the threat of a double dissolution election. Looks like blocking the carbon tax is all this lot really have; anything else they do will be an accident, for good or ill.
    at 9:49 pm .

  36. Another day and more disasters for this inept and worst of all governments.

    Abbott thought the Indonesia rift would blow over quickly and actually stated it would be resolved quickly. Indonesia blew that out of the water overnight in insisting on a step by step six point resolution with each step needing to be resolved before moving onto the next.

    Indonesia has stated they will not revisit this until a Heads of States meeting in late 2014. That is at least one year before its even looked at again and only if this government implements every one of the six points in turn and they are accepted in turn. In the meantime until at least that 2014 date Indonesia won’t cooperate with Australia on intelligence sharing and people smuggling. Oops.

    Then comes the NBN report that shows this governments model is deeply flawed, cannot be rolled out in the time Turnbull promised (another broken one) and will cost much more than the $8 billion Turnbull said it would save.

  37. And yet another thing this woeful government is starting to attack and bring undone, Industry Super Funds. Can’t have these funds competing with Abbott’s masters and mates now can we, so lets hobnail them and have a whole lot of people worse off but a few mates much richer.

    Industry super funds fight back over director proposals

    This terrible government seems determined to dismantle every single institution, no matter how successful, purely out of a very flawed hard right wing ideology and stupidity, but more because they are being run by a handful of wealthy vested interests and their associations like the IPA.

    And fuck the country.

  38. Indonesia announces it will cease to imprison asylum seekers seeking to get to Australia by boat for foreseeable future.

    Further to the Indonesian rift, all because of a massive Abbott fuck up and nothing else, a commentator has stated that Australia cannot sign up to one of the points on intelligence protocols as no country the world would ever consider it. If Abbott caves in to this one point he is seriously hamstringing Australia well into the future.

  39. It just gets worse and worse. Thanks for the updates Mobius. Talk about a dud government, no wonder the trolls don’t even try to mount an argument in its defence.

  40. The biggest problem this government has, is that Labor was telling the truth.

    The fantasies and lies they built up against the previous government, are just that, lies.

    I am more concerned, is that they believed their own lies and spin.

    Labor said there was no fat to trim in the PS. True.

    Labor said that Better Schools was the way to go. True. They said that the money for the bodies not signed up, would go back to consolidated revenue. True.

    They said that the NBNCo was the best scheme, that their NBN lite.fraud would not work. True.

    Labor’s CEF suite of bills to address carbon emissions. True

    Labor said, that Abbott by his actions would put relations with others in our region at risk. True.

    There has ti be something scary about a government that sets out to erase all that Labor governments has achieved. Not just of the two previous governments, but back to Hawke and Keating. Even Industry Super is at risk.

    I suspect even Mabo is in their gun sights. In fact, that will come out of the panel set up to investigate Indigenous affairs.

    This government has even wound back all assistance given to small business. True.

    Many in small business are screaming that this government agenda is being run by big business at the expense of the little guy.

    This is day 73 and we still not have heard what they have in store when it comes to health.

    We all know that childcare, cost and quality is at risk.

    We know that this government is setting up numerous bodies, to investigate and dig for dirt on the previous government and unions.

    The list so far, is to look into the actions of the Ms, Gillard over two decades ago,

    Inquiry into the HSU. Why when all matters have been addressed by the law. This one might catch many, that will embarrassed this government more Thomson and Labor. Might eve clear Thomson.

    Inquiry into the Insulation scheme of the first Labor government. Hardly likely to find anything new, after the eight previous inquiries that found nothing amiss.

    That is one action, that I am sure will bite the government back.

    Setting up inquiries is one thing. Controlling the outcome is another.
    Even Mr. Brandis attempts, to rescind those laws that found Bolt guilty, is running into a brick wall.

    And when it comes to the asylum seekers, we seem to have upset the rest of the world with our perceived cruelty. They no longer have the assistance of Indonesia.

    Today, we have the Education minister meeting with the states and territories.

    This government seem to believe they can lie without impunity. That the public will accept the lies, because that is what they had to do to win. They believe there will be no backlash.

    I was surprised this morning when Kathryn Griener, one on the Gonski panel said she believed that Pyne would back Better Schools. Sorry, from Pyne;s attitude before the election, he knew than he would not continue with the scheme. He knew he was lying, the day they claimed to be on that unity ticket. He had no intention of going down that track.

  41. Big news. Hockey to prohibit ADM’s acquisition to GrainCorp.

    National Party won this one.

    I thought the decision was due next week, not today. Diversion in order. it would seem.

    Just hope they put as much pressure on Pyne and Better Schools.

  42. One needs to recall the battle that Keating had getting compulsory super through.

    The Opposition at the time. fought tooth and nail against unions having a say in the industry,

    They feared that Industry Super Funds would give unions access to too much money and power.

    For years, choosing ones own super fund was not easy.

    Unless I am mistaken, it is the industry funds that have performed the best over time. I suspect they make it harder for private funds to rip the worker off.

  43. No, they have not changes their minds. Too stupid for that.

    They are quickly having their mids changes, as reality and many inconvenient facts raised their ugly head. Well ugly for this government.

  44. cuppa, the trolls have never mounted an argument in Abbott’s or his ironies defence.

    Never once. All they were capable of attacking Labor, Gillard in particular, ignoring fact and reality in their quest.

    The chickens are now coming home to roost.

  45. Keeps telling Conroy, that he is asking good questions. Problem not many being answered.

    Not many good answers.

  46. The Pyne circus is expected to go on all day, until late into the afternoon.

    Mr. Abbott has trashed most of the departments and bodies set up to give him advice. Others, he is not communicating with.

    I expect, most would be advising him to tread lightly at this time.

    Government by gut feelings and ones prejudices does not work.

  47. Only caught the end of PC NSW education minister. Is it true, that Pyne will make his savings from public schools.

    If so, Pyne is back to his belief that Federal governments have no place in funding state schools.

  48. Maybe Abbott needs to dump his demolition of all things Labor.

    Yes, time for him to drop his obsessions with that toxic tax, NBNco, and now Gonski.

    Time for him to addressed what is going on in the region.

    After all, he is now PM, and needs start governing.

    Meeting Pacific leaders in Guangzhou on 8 November, the Chinese government announced a range of loans, grants and scholarships for island nations. Vice-premier Wang Yang announced that China will provide US$1 billion in concessional loans for Pacific island nations to support construction projects. (A loans facility will especially benefit Papua New Guinea and Fiji, where major oil, gas and seabed mining projects are proposed.) A further $1 billion in non-concessional financing would be made available by the China Development Bank. At a time when Australia is abandoning increases in overseas development aid, the Chinese government is stressing its diplomatic commitment to the region: “China is a reliable and sincere friend and a dependable cooperative partner of the Pacific island countries.” It will build medical facilities and send medical teams to island nations, as well as investing in green energy projects. Beijing will also provide 2000 scholarships over four years to add to the 3600 Pacific officials and technicians who have already received training in China in recent years. Canberra’s fixation on the carbon tax and domestic climate policies, meanwhile, is overshadowing these regional and international developments. Although Australia remains the largest aid donor in the islands region, the Coalition government is fundamentally transforming our capacity to deliver development assistance in ways that address core regional concerns over poverty, infrastructure, water and food security. And as we move towards a global climate treaty and a summit to replace the Millennium Development Goals in 2015, there are plenty of other players who ar – See more at:……

  49. Telstra warned the Rodent that the copper network was on its last legs. That would have been the time to go all out for a world class NBN, what eith the moola rolling in by the trainload.

    But the Rodent government had neither the imagination or the nous for that. Besides, there was all the middle and moneyed class bribes to be handed out, so why would you waste $340bn on public infrastructure like education, health, and aging physical infrastructure like road, rail airports and school buildings when there’s much more important things to waste spend the money on like middle class and affluent bribes er vote buying er dole money er tax breaks.

  50. It’s worth noting that while Pyneocchio, Liesalot & Sloppy are claiming they haven’t got the dough to implement Gonski, they’ve got $25m to squander on a bullshit inquiry into HIP.

    They’re also planning to force some disabled off the disability pension onto Newstart at a loss of $250/fn, but have plenty to squander on paying highly paid er calibre women to breed.

    Priorities once again skewed to lining the pockets of the wealthy at the expense of the poor and low paid.

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