Time isn’t on my side over the next couple of days and I only have the opportunity to put up a very short post, inspired by this comment someone saw graffitied on a school window of all places:
Q: How many Liberals does it take to change a light globe?
A: None. They prefer to do nothing but blame Labor for the darkness.
Sounds like a smart kid, whoever wrote that. If the Coalition form government it’s the attitude I can expect from them. After all, they have a $30B black hole that can only be filled by saving money or increasing revenue. And of course they’ll blame Labor. It’ll be Labor’s fault if the Coalition discover that a budget surplus is out of reach.
What do you think?
Café Whispers 
They will blame labor for the high unemployment rates, after they sack the public servant’s, cut the hell out of the health system and reduce carer numbers, attack the education system and get rid of all the school helpers and Aux. staff.
They will then blame Labor when the stuff up the economy and the interest rates rise.
Love the light globe piece, very clever.
Yes Liberal Goverment will blame Labor for anything and everything that goes wrong. Will rarely mention only when it suits if ever all the good Legislation bills Labor have got passed in a minority Goverment.
Labor will also be blamed for Liberals stupidity, making sure it is not their fault Labor made them do it..
If Abbott wins, the right wingers here are already rehearsing their “it’s Labor’s fault” excuses the very first moment Abbott breaks his first promise, probably in his first week, and then for every promise he breaks after that, and there will be a lot of them going on the Liberal State governments, and after that for every Abbott failure and there will be an awful lot of them as well.
You want bookie’s odds, bet on that.
Pallet of tissues?
Yes they will blame Labor and the Murdoch press will broadcast every word of it. What this election has shown me is the sorry truth about us and it isn’t pretty I am afraid.
MT – a very bad post . With an analogy of a light bulb.
Truth is Labor has turned off that light . Light of hope and success that
every Australian aspires to. Thanks Julia , thanks Kevin. Voters
accross the Nation will be out queing from 7.00am on 7Sept to rid the curse of
Labor.
Neil – it is so so relevant since 2007 whilst all Austrlians have had to scimp , save
and cutback what does the Federal Labor Government do?
Add 20,000 public servants to thier payroll.
That is simply a bad joke.
It took Howard Government 11 years to stop blaming labor for everything, and that’s only because they got put out. They never do take responsibility for their own bad actions.
The Eureka Stockade. The American Civil War. The Boer War. How much time do I have?
The NSW Coalition state government continues to blame the previous Labor government for their own shortcomings. Still not willing to take blame for their many failures.
I thought is was a $70B black hole just a few days ago and now it is $30B??? At the rate of reduction of estimates it will be a surplus by next week!
Speaking of real black holes…a $164B budget deficit/black hole in the last four budgets and let us not talk about the $12B blowout announced for this year a mere ten weeks after the budget was announced.
It was not the coalition that created that mess.
Can I just take a moment to remind you all that the politics of devision should not be extended into the general community. Politicians come and go but most communities are for a lifetime. Families and friendships are very important. Check your feelings and when necessary keep them to yourself. Arguing in line with your political affiliations might boost your sense of self but it can senselessly destroy longstanding relationships. With no great leaders to choose from in this era maybe it’s best to just cast your vote and let it be. Choose your battles wisely. And resist the urge to hate. As Australians there is more that binds us together than divides us and lets keep it that way. Otherwise what are we voting for?
I am a pensioner. I have never been better off than now. Increased pensions and payments has slowly improved my living conditions. I get tired of the coalition supporters here who have got their head firmly planted in the ground. Wake up look around and enjoy the bounties the Labor Part gives us.
Enjoy your conditions, jaggy. It is all about you…must be proud.
What a disgraceful response, scaper, you little slimy toad. Aren’t pensioners allowed to have a reasonable standard of living & feel like a human being with some self-respect?
Usually it’s all about you & your alleged superiority. Crawl back into your sewer.
Just telling it as it is, Joy. It is not about one demographic, it is what is best for the nation. Care to tell me why the defence pension is below the aged pension and this government has point blank refused to align it?
Aren’t pensioners that put their lives on the line for our nation allowed to have a reasonable standard of living & feel like a human being with some self-respect?
I was part of the group that tried to convince this government to be at least fair but they ignored the plea. The other side will align the pensions.
No, would not contemplate crawling into the sewer with you!
Bob, good comment and good question…what are we voting for?
I am voting for action on climate change. All I have read suggests the Coalition policy cannot meet targets without spending a great deal more than budgeted for. They want to scarp a price on carbon to reduce our cost of living when all statistics show that we have more disposable income now than ever. They want to scrap the CEFC basically killing our growing renewable energy industry.
I am voting for FttP NBN and against gold-plated paid parental leave because the first uses our money to benefit all and has enormous education, health, and productivity potential while the second is a barely disguised eugenics program with little evidence that it will improve productivity but a vast amount of evidence that it is totally inequitable – the poor paying for the rich.
I am voting for unions and Fair Work Australia which gives a forum for negotiation that has resulted in far less industrial action than in previous times. I am voting against the reinstatement of the ABCC during whose time industrial related deaths increased significantly and who had draconian powers of interrogation and confiscation and compulsion and compliance that far outweighed any police officer or court in the land.
I am voting for the party that recognises that those who can afford to pay more should do something to help those who are struggling. I am voting for the party that introduced a mining tax so we can share (albeit to a small degree) in the profit made in the depletion of our finite resources.
I am voting for the party that will allow a conscience vote on marriage equality.
Like always, will be voting for the least worst party which is the coalition this time. Have voted since the mid eighties and the only election I did not vote for the winning party was the last…and you lot that is so ideological stoic call me a right winger?
HAHAHAHAHAH!
I laugh at the people that vote for this or that, the truth is that both sides of politics are pretty much the same but keep up the divisiveness as the entertainment is priceless.
Even the politicians come together for a drink after brawling on the floor of Parliament because they have the respect of each other which is something that the chattering classes never will have.
The swinging voters decide the government of the day. People that vote for the same party are of no consequence which pretty well sums up most of you lot up.
The Coalition policies would be amusing except there may be a big enough moron factor who think that buying all the boats in Indonesia is a good idea.
If the swinging voters decide an election then every new announcement by the Coalition should be adding another nail in their coffin.
Tony Burke says the “bizarre” idea of buying boats in Indonesia to prevent their use by people smugglers is “simply crazy policy” and doomed to fail.
He says the archipelago of Indonesia has three quarters of a million boats and ship builders would make them faster than they could be bought and destroyed.
“Of all the mad ideas I’ve heard in immigration, I think boat buy-back wins,” he told reporters in Melbourne.
“I have no doubt at all it would be great for the ship building industry of Indonesia and they would be lending a hand to the ship building industry of Indonesia in a way in which they’re not willing to lend a hand to the car building industry of Australia.”
Mr Burke said Australians would be outraged if another country sent its police to our shores, yet that is what the opposition planned to do in Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Malaysia.
“Now just think, from the perspective as an Australian, if another country unilaterally announced they were sending their police force to our country to conduct their own operations, you can imagine how that would be received within Australia,” he said.
“And the clumsy nature of simply letting embassies know at the last minute that this was about to come, without seeking consent, without seeking cooperation, without seeking any direct engagement of any fashion with the other countries, is a recipe almost guaranteed to fail.”
Sorry for such a long post but it truly deserves exposure for the swinging voters to be abled to make an informed decision lololol
” I am voting for the party that introduced a mining tax so we can share (albeit to a small degree) in the profit made in the depletion of our finite resources.”
This mining tax really annoyed me. Swan claimed when in Opposition that Costello had wasted the mining boom by handing the money back as welfare or tax cuts. So what did Labor do differently with even more revenue from mining than Costello got.
Handed the money back as welfare or tax cuts. Didn’t save one cent.
Mining boom money since it only happens once should be used to pay off debt or put into some fund. Costello started doing that with HEEF and other funds.
Tony isn’t going to stop the boats now,He is going to buy the boats ,i can see the headlines on the front pages of the indonesia papers,
BOAT BUILDERS WANTED,oh what fools they are,
I wonder why a certain annoying troll has indicated that he thinks there is not much difference between Lab and Lib but spends an awful lot of time arguing the toss for the Libs pathetic attempt at policy etc?
So Neil I can see that you feel passionately about this. I assume you won’t be voting for the party that wants to repeal the mining tax?
Hey mate, a bloke down the road offered me $20K for my boat so he could transport illegals to Oz. Really, I will give you double that to not sell it to him and save the Australian tax payers $4billion. No brainer really. You lefties lack enterprise. Probably why you all sit here each and every day trolling.
yajustgottalaugh 😉
At least there’s one thing that they can do well… blame Labor 😯 cos they’ve got nothin’ else 🙄
My latest post “Did we dodge a bullet, only to now jump on a land-mine?” 😀
http://truthseekersmusings.wordpress.com/2013/08/22/did-we-dodge-a-bullet-only-to-now-jump-on-a-land-mine/
Cheers 😀
It’s a no-brainer, Michael.
Hear, hear Geoff Volich.
Excellent contribution Summo. There are 750,000 boats in Indonesia and boat builders very happy to up the ante. Save us 4 billion? 5 grand a boat for this crop and keep them coming. Meanwhile we will also find the money for the refugees that we are taking as well as the ones we are supporting off-shore and our foreign aid program and NOW our investment in the Indonesian boat-building industry
Labors track record is open to blame. They deserve every bit of blame they get.
Another really quite bad week for the Labor campaign , think it has almost
gone over the cliff.
Turn the lights back on , it will happen post 7Sept.
Neilsen poll just out and to be published tomorrow Labor primary vote 35%.
Now that’s a winner.
Still waiting for a reason to vote for abbott or a coalition policy that will be beneficial to the country. but thanks again for your contribution voyager. as usual, it added nothing to the discussion.
pmsl@750,000 boats. what colour is the sky in your world Kayelee? I suppose every one of them is available to transport rather than fish hey? What a goose!
I think Voyager is on some seriously bad drugs and has lost all touch with reality with his bad tripping lmfao
The extinction of the dinosaurs. The sinking of the Titanic. The Russian Revolution. The Ashes loss.
Well lets hypothesise here Summo. I have no idea what an Indonesian fisherman makes money wise. They say people smiuglers get 10 grand a person with 100 on the boat and our government want to buy their boats. I would imagine an acceptable price would have to be at least one voyage worth…1 million. Do you think those people who were previously fishermen with no desire to be people smugglers could pass up selling their boat for an exorbitant amount knowing they can buy another immediately? It’s all too much bullshit just like everything else tony and his band of merry fools come up with.
The Libs have always used that tactic when they gain office & any incoming Liberal administration will be no different.They will fail to deliver on promises (buy back boats, lol) & will probably bring back the ‘core’ & ‘non-core’ promises when scaling back reckless spending promises.
Also if the Libs do win, the the first item on the agenda will to release a press statement to the MSM that the budget outlook is even worse than they were told & even more draconian fiscal measures will have to be introduced …. **yawn**, yep those old enough will have seen this 3 card trick used over & over & over by the Libs …. it will come straight out of their well worn electoral playbook.
“It’s fascinating to observe some mechanism at work here that allowed so few of us commenters to avoid trading supercilious if sometimes erudite barbs, this one included. If any of us are so smart, we’d best start figuring out how to get along….”
Al Berkman.
Seriously, there is nothing to blame Labor for.
That’s right, Labor never blames the previous government when problems become apparent.
Absolutely Roswell, I agree.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-26/charity-says-fbt-changes-will-affect-400-workers/4845804
The insulation, cattle, and building industries also agree with Roswell.
The miners, corporate Australia and small business would also agree.
To say otherwise would be a conspiracy hatched in Area 51, hey Roswell?
What do you want to know about Area 51? 👽
Q: Do aliens lean to the left or right?
A: Neither, they are of superior intelligence.
Blame Kevin that’s the answer.
Well come 8Sept Kevin may also be out of a job and off to Centrelink.
Seems Bill Glasson has a good chance in Griffith.
Kevin can then run down Theresa Reins Company just as he has Australia.
Almost seems like natural justice for the little Emperor.
😆 what is it with wingnuts and gullibility? Voyager displays it here often, in spades 😆
We are entitled to know the facts, democracy requires we make informed decisions.
Abbott is stealing democracy by bombarding us with the same slogans and half truths, for the last three years.
He says he is a “man with a plan” but doesn’t let us know if or how it will work or who will pay for his plan.
“Fix the economy” means nothing to me, unless I know the how.
Tony Abbott displays his great weakness each time he reverses the sneers, the appeal to ignorance, to prejudice, and the brutality of the negative political campaign the lies and misrepresentations, the repetitive slogans and half truths which dragged down Julia Gillard. Which is what we have heard him say for three years inside and outside parliament. Now because of focus group advice to switch to “positive single message” he projects his failings onto Rudd.
(Projection was conceptualised by Freud in his letters to Wilhelm Fliess, and further refined by Karl Abraham and Anna Freud. Freud considered that in projection thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings that cannot be accepted as one’s own are dealt with by being placed in the outside world and attributed to someone else. What the ego repudiates is split off and placed in another).
Sorry Tony it aint working. People can see right through
you. You are seriously ill, my man
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We are entitled to know the facts, democracy requires we make informed decisions.
Abbott is stealing democracy by bombarding us with the same slogans and half truths, for the last three years.
He says he is a “man with a plan” but doesn’t let us know if or how it will work or who will pay for his plan.
“Fix the economy” means nothing to me, unless I know the how.
Tony Abbott displays his great weakness each time he reverses the sneers, the appeal to ignorance, to prejudice, and the brutality of the negative political campaign the lies and misrepresentations, the repetitive slogans and half truths which dragged down Julia Gillard. Which is what we have heard him say for three years inside and outside parliament. Now because of focus group advice to switch to “positive single message” he projects his failings onto Rudd.
(Projection was conceptualised by Freud in his letters to Wilhelm Fliess, and further refined by Karl Abraham and Anna Freud. Freud considered that in projection thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings that cannot be accepted as one’s own are dealt with by being placed in the outside world and attributed to someone else. What the ego repudiates is split off and placed in another).
Sorry Tony it aint working. People can see right through
you. You are seriously ill, my man
Please like and Share..
We are entitled to know the facts, democracy requires we make informed decisions.
Abbott is stealing democracy by bombarding us with the same slogans and half truths, for the last three years.
He says he is a “man with a plan” but doesn’t let us know if or how it will work or who will pay for his plan.
“Fix the economy” means nothing to me, unless I know the how.
Tony Abbott displays his great weakness each time he reverses the sneers, the appeal to ignorance, to prejudice, and the brutality of the negative political campaign the lies and misrepresentations, the repetitive slogans and half truths which dragged down Julia Gillard. Which is what we have heard him say for three years inside and outside parliament. Now because of focus group advice to switch to “positive single message” he projects his failings onto Rudd.
(Projection was conceptualised by Freud in his letters to Wilhelm Fliess, and further refined by Karl Abraham and Anna Freud. Freud considered that in projection thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings that cannot be accepted as one’s own are dealt with by being placed in the outside world and attributed to someone else. What the ego repudiates is split off and placed in another).
Sorry Tony it aint working. People can see right through
you. You are seriously ill, my man
Please like and Share..
Remember the good old days when ashby would get front page no matter what the story was about. These days, it appears that he has been passed over for make-up artists.
The link, well, both turn out to be fabrications. Unfortunately, when the truth does arise, our meeja appear to have lost all interest.
Remember the good old days when a child (Not a kid, that is an infant goat) was responsible for graffiti upon a public property paid for by our taxes was handed over to his Dad for a thrashing or other appropriate punishment. Now you basket weavers accept graffiti everywhere and anywhere, until it’s your property of course……like A Losers P corflute signs.
Summo, …mate…… cobba…… let me say this to ewe, baa……… ‘..mate, you are on the cusp… the leading edge of evolution….. you ‘may’ even be an ‘neo’-,man I, ‘con’ ewe not…baa….. kinda like an Homo sapiens sapiens sapiens….. talk about ‘alpha’s’ you lucky dog, ewe… baa….
lovolaughingatlovolaughingatsummo
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1968042,00.html
I will lay $200 in the table right now that Joe Hockey will say “its worse than we thought”
😆 …. yup….. it;s kinda sad to think that we are one of the top eight leading economy’s in the world because of Labor….yet the LNP types say no…. but, hey, Joe will fix it……. he just won’t tell you how 🙄
All you Labor push ups , very quiet too quiet.
Slagging off has been your career in some cases.
It is time to grow up, move on and show maturity.
Prepare for change. Get out of your cave.
Deep and meaningless as usual from Voyager. Have you ever presented a lucid, original thought here V?
It’s over.
This time 14 days is all that’s left.
How many lost seats?
One
Two
Four
Six Eight
Ten
Twelve
Fourteen
Sixteen
Eighteen
Twenty
Twenty two
Twenty four
I have stopped for oxyugen but but have Australian voters?
PS being the idiot I only predict 22
I always stop for oxyugen. Yum yum more please mister.
Voyager, they have run out of copy and paste material. If culpa and bacchus didn’t have copy and paste, they’d be up shit creek. Hey! good policy by Abbott this morning concerning apprentices. Rude will be smacking his advisers bottoms today for not getting in first. Beautiful day in Fairfax today, 27deg so it’s off to the beach. Might stop in and admire Clive’s dinosaurs.
yajustgottalaugh 😉
Still a bit chilly here in Moreton, 25 degrees later. Yes, the policy looks pretty good but need more detail. Might sign up my dog (Australian Silky) for an apprenticeship, he’s already on the electoral roll. So is my bird…he’s got a credit card too.
Gee, pretty quiet around here. The lefties must of gone to church to pray for Kevin. Watched a bit of Insiders…they’ve pretty well called it for a coalition victory.
I see that Rudd suspended his campaigning to ‘cook up’ a Syrian solution and the media are making a meal out of it.
I think you lefties will need to attend night mass as Rudd will need more prayers.
I see that Rudd suspended his campaigning to ‘cook up’ a Syrian solution
I see that ltd news is lying again
And that they don’t care that a guy who they claim WILL be PM in a couple of weeks WON’T take time out of campaigning to even get updates.
The Teflon Tony News Network
Will go down a treat in Griffith, could not be bothered to cancel his schedule for a debate but can to be in a cooking show.
Did you sing in the church choir this morning, Tommy?
Coalition election launch. Campbell Newman up first to expose the Labor lies about Qld. Camera pans to Hunt and Turnbull.
Hehehehehe
Did you sing in the church choir this morning
No, I read what actually happened, not what rupe said happened
Julie Bishop up now. Reminds the audience of Labor people saying Rudd is useless at governing. Trouble with Kevin, “he is a fake”. Kevin is the Hulk. Hilarious!
Warren Truss up now. “It has been a long six years.” So true! “A true new way is to change the government.” Even truer.
Gives the carbon tax a serve. AXE THE TAXES!!!
Pity that no-one but the rusted-ons will be taking any notice 😆
A three hour debate with candidates IN the Griffith electorate to start the campaign vs an organised “debate” at a venue kilometres away (on the other side of the river) where only a few rusted-ons once again were in attendance.
Has your Tones actually fronted for a candidates debate in Warringah at all 😆
😆 sounds like a slogan-fest to me. I wonder will there be any substance? Silly question, I know – it is the LNP we’re talking about 🙄
Truss still up pushing the inland rail project…hear, hear. Regional Australia being ignored by Labor. Julia’s idea of going into rural Australia is a trip to western Sydney and Kevin’s is to fly over at 30,000 feet!
A clear vision for developing the north, well said, ANDEV man!
Business has done six years of hard Labor. “Labor’s rot must stop!”
Scaper you are a total waste of space and oxeyugen. Yeah that word again.
Guardian today predicts +27 seats to Coalition.
Makes my +22 look modest.
What do you CW experts predict?
Two of Abbott’s daughters up, pretty impressive ladies. Must be because Abbott is a woman hater. Introduces their dad.
The worst government in our history! We are a great country but we can’t afford another three years of Labor.
Scrap the carbon tax, get the budget under control by getting rid of the waste.
Goodbye mining tax. Cut the red tape that is constricting business. Go after the unions and make them accountable. Bring back the construction watch dog.
The true state of our books will be revealed. Goodbye FTTH. Goodbye FBT changes.
Green army will be established, General Scaper has a ring to it.
Get the budget back to surplus ASAP.
Apprenticeship policy- my dog and bird claps.
Aboriginal recognition in the Constitution. Real action not words. ACTION ABBOTT!
No more class, gender or where people were born to try to divide Australia.
Abbott exposes Labor lies. Rudd reckons Abbott would sack nurses and teachers…the government does not employ any. Rudd says that Abbott would close schools and hospitals…the government does not own any.
If Rudd’s colleagues don’t trust him why should Australians?
A good speech from the next Prime Minister of the 44th Parliament of Australia…Tony Abbott.
Voyager, soxy predicts Labor holding 74 seats.
HAHAHAHAHAH!
Seems I was correct then… 😀
https://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/08/18/the-media-must-be-seeing-a-different-tony-than-me/#comment-163358
Care to give your latest prediction or are you going to wait until September 8 before updating?
What sanctimonious #&^%wits!
As usual – old 2SP misses the point 🙄
“That prediction is just as good as any others you’ll find
1913 days before the event 😉 “old 2SP misses the point
He does that a lot. 😉
Can’t miss something that does not exist. Care to make a prediction, Tommy?
lol, Someone tweeted facts back at the libs. Nasty tweeters! Let murdoch take control of facts, not just anyone with an internet connection and the ability to research.
Care to make a prediction
I’m just sticking to facts. I see you want nothing to do with them.
You and facts like Abbott told Rudd to shut up at the debate? Will you and soxy cry on election night? My investment in tissue futures is looking good.
You and facts like Abbott told Rudd to shut up at the debate?
Cos he did, in a very smarmy and smart ass manner
Unbelievable that in our nations allegedly pre-eminent ‘debate’ between future leaders, that one runs so hard from questions he pleads with the other to stop asking them.
And then. our pandering media reckon that asking Rudd to stop asking questions is the question of the night 😯
And they call themselves bloody journalist. churnalists is what they are.
So, what do you think the odds are of murdochs mob getting sued by the ALP before this election is out for slander?
I’d put ’em pretty high. 😉
The wailing and gnashing of teeth will come for the next three years from those who think, “WTF have we done” if they elect a Lieberal led government on Sept 7…
A bit like trying to find someone who will admit to voting for Campbell Newman’s criminal cabal in Qld. 😆
Stunning to think the Australian public would not only be so gullible but also so forgetful of Howard’s years in government and re-elect the worst Health Minister in recent history to a position of even greater power. Imagine what an absolute clusterf*** of the PPTA he will make. I personally wouldn’t leave Tony Abbott in charge of the school tuck shop let alone a chook raffle and especially not a nation.
C’mon Labor, SUE their ass!
Editor’s note: Last night Prime Minister Kevin Rudd released a statement accusing the Sunday Telegraph of reporting he ‘delayed’ security briefings on Syria. Mr Rudd is wrong.
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/prime-minister-kevin-rudd-halts-campaign-for-syria-then-does-tv-show-kitchen-cabinet/story-fnho52ip-1226703440022
BUSTED LYING AGAIN. Even worst, their second lie was in defence of their first lie. Habitual seems to be an appropriate word
http://twitpic.com/da0sp9/full
So work for the dole is to become compulsory again.
There is only one poll. Let’s wait to see what happens. All I know is that if Rabbit looses watch out for the windows walls and fittings.
As I mentioned on another thread jagman48 – I’d love to watch the unhinging that would happen across the right-whinge intertube sites if the result was another Labor controlled hung parliament 😆 😆
Back from the beach. What a day in Fairfax. I can’t imagine it being better, but come dawn on Sept 8th a new beginning for my beloved Australia and Fairfax will be even better with a new Govt. At last our new highway will be a reality. Same for Moreton, the Ipswich motorway will be completed. Saddest part, that bastard Rudd will retire to Sunshine Beach, where he will have to hide. There’s a price on his head. Imagine Noosa locals shopping beside that arsehole? In fact imagine him sunbaking on Noosa Beach…pmsllllll. He won’t last long up here.
yajustgopttalaugh ;).
“If there is a hung parliament, there won’t be a Coalition government led by Tony Abbott.”
” If I’m wrong, if an incoming Coalition government can’t get its carbon tax repeal legislation through the Senate, well, we will not hesitate to go to a double dissolution.”
A hung parliament? Wouldn’t mind a DD…would be the end of the Greens.
Regardless of the shape of the future senate (July) this will be dealt with what is already in place. Can’t wait to see their demise.
What I really hate is that the lieberal supporters have to take to swearing to make a point. Guess it comes down to maturity or a lack of it.
Oh jaggy, swearing wasn’t around in your time?
Swearing is not a stranger to this place, especially when it comes to abuse. Either you don’t use a spell checker or your “lieberal” reference is a matter of ‘maturity’.
Proof that age does not equate to wisdom.
Why don’t we put it down to maturity. Something you totally lack. And where do you get the right to state I lack wisdom. BTW I believe that if you need to swear in an argument, you probably lack the intellect to put forward a valued argument. From a crusty old pensioner.
Proof that age does not equate to wisdom.
lol
Says the guy who still thinks tabot was simply asking if Rudd ever Shut Up!, without implying he should. Yea, we’re all THAT stoopid scapes 😆
Swearing I can live with, lying, as displayed AGAIN by murdochs tabloids, and highlighted by the more gullible, I cannot abide.
That’s it, time to shut Murdoch down because Tommy can not abide.
What murdochs media won’t tell us
http://election.crikey.com.au/cash-tracker/
time to shut Murdoch down because his papers lie repeatedly
Fixed it for ya dopey 😉
Did someone mention a lie? Like “There will be no carbon tax under a Govt I lead!!” You mean that kinda lie?
yajustgottalaughatthehypocracy 😉
Speaking of Tommy, the Melbourne variety…he telegraphed at the other place that he was going to comment at Bolt’s today.
Hehehehehe…wonder if Andrew will give him the right of reply? I would be interested in how Yom protects his newly transplanted member on his head from sunburn.
The blog owner of the other place can’t sit on it forever.
You mean that kinda lie?
No, I mean an actual lie, not a fabrication that ignores the rest of the sentence “but I will pursue a market based mechanism”
No, a straight out lie, that claimed that Rudd abandoned talks about Syria to go on a cooking show, and then lying again that they ever said it
http://twitpic.com/da0sp9/full
I see that Rudd said there was no mandate to introduce the carbon tax. Talk about biting Gillard’s rather big nose off to spite Labor’s face!
Scaper you are a fool. That’s it.
“For example, I don’t think our actions on the carbon tax were right, that’s why I changed it to move towards a floating price,” the Prime Minister told ABC TV.
“To begin with, we didn’t have a mandate for it.”
At least he hasn’t accepted it was a lie.
A mandate, well, in a hung parliament, is anything a mandate?
That’s Rudd for you, gutless and pandering to the core.
Beattie on minority government.
“Yes, I had a minority government … for six months. I had a very sensible, genuine independent – one person to deal with.
“I don’t know how the Labor Party’s dealt with (the most recent parliament) it’s been like herding cats over the past three years.
“Minority governments aren’t good for the country – we need a clear direction. Nobody owes us a living, we’re living in an increasingly competitive, ugly world and Australia has to be very decisive and we need majority government to deliver that.
“Frankly, some people might like (minority governments), but they’re not in the interest of Australia – they’re just bloody shockers.”
And the junking of Gillard and her government continues.
Rudd and Beattie on the IPA payroll???
Nice work scaper on cover up Pete, or as we locals call him Pumpkin head Pete. He has more skeletons than Milton cemetery and more hide than the RNA prize bull. It’ll catch up with him one day. He just keeps sticking his head up. Does he love pain or something? Perhaps we should ask Merri Rose who by the way can piss in her wet weather gear with the best of us tailor fishermen on Moreton Island? Or a few old coppers sworn top secrecy? Mt Cootha tee hee. How Dr Beattie let him re-enter the fray is quite a mystery.
yajustgottalaugh 😉
Should he become PM, this weakness of character would be even more detrimental to good governance, more dangerous to equity and fairness than the vengefulness that he would parade against the weak, against those who have no defence. The wealthy and powerful would prevail. Abbott, the weak man, would not resist.
Be afraid of an Abbott prime ministership, very afraid.
Say no, no, no to Tony Abbott.
http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2013/08/25/Say-no-no-no-to-Tony-Abbott.aspx
“Be afraid of an Abbott prime ministership, very afraid.”
I’m shaking in my steel caps.
Here’s something to lol about, Summo……, though I’m not sure you have the cognitive ability to understand, given that your a RWinger and that RWingers generally have a lower IQ. 😀
“Since 2007 when Labor took control of governing Australia the GDP has grown from $745 billion a year to now just over $1.5 trillion a year. That is 104% growth that delivered an additional $1.3 trillion of business over 6 years. So with the foreign debt at around $250 billion the Labor government gains return of over $5 for every $1 they spend. Considering that banks pay about 5% interest on your savings then the 400% compounded returns from the Labor government is very good.
If Labor retains power then they are projected to add another $300 billion to the GDP to end 2014. A Liberal austerity approach would most likely shrink GDP and leave us with a lot of debt.
Germany’s and the USA economies each only grew 24% over the same 6 year period and the UK grew at just 6.64% !”
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp
Kaye Lee. Quite on the contrary. He will be an excellent PM and Australia will be better for having him. The Hon Tony Abbott doesn’t discriminate like the opposition. He shall govern for all. What a top bloke. I only hope I can shout him a flem cutter down the track after he builds a 5 pillar world class economy, lower taxes, stronger borders, better education opportunities and health services for all.
yajustgottalaugh 😉
Another right-whinger headed for a rude awakening if we get a Lieberal government 🙄
I think that 74 seat soxy is in for a big rude awakening when the ‘coalition’ get in. The hand will not be kind!
Ignorance is not easily overcome when it is entered into willfully – and there are a boatload of willfully ignorant RW trolls on this blog.
Au contraire – I go in with eyes wide open. I already have a very good idea of what sort of a disaster an Abbott government would be. It is those whose blinkers are firmly superglued on who will get the biggest shock – “Oh F**k – what have we done. Arrrgggghhhh ” 😆
Oi LOVO. Point me to any bank “that pays about 5% interest”. You are off with the fairies mate. Try 4.1%, unless you accept high risk….which you probably would hey?
The only mandate any leader has, is the numbers on the floor of each house. ach electorate, elects a MP to vote on their behalf. That is the only mandate theayt exust. It is not winner take all, and no MP has to vote for something, because Tony said go. As to wanting DD, not too sure many business really want the political instability this will bring for years.
What does Abbott, want his DD for
A ETS, that is already in place, brings in revenue, not destroying the economy, better than the DA he wants to replace it with. Along with that, many businesses are already benefiting from. The other is the MRRT, that also brings in revenue, and is only payable on super profits, that is made from the ore we all own.
Neither are worth the pain, that Abbott will put on all, to have his own way, which at the end of the day, more about Abbott saying no, and wiping a=out all that has been achieved in the last three years.
Does anyone really believe, that all Abbott has to do to turn the economy around, as he says. is the get rid of the so called carbon tax and MRRT.
I suspect, he will turn the economy around,but not in the direction that many hope.
Yes, we are doing well, but live in a unstable world. It is disappearing revenue base, that neither side seem to be addressing.
We live in a new global world, that would surprise me if solutions from the past will worth now.
We did it then, we will do it again, sadly does not wash with me.
No matter who wins on the 7th September I am looking forward to commenting on politics in the next three years. I believe it will be a interesting time, and there will be plenty to say. Not sure it will be as many right wingers, seem to think.
For the good of the country, and it’s people, I truly want to be proven wrong.
The one thing I will not doing, is screaming, we were robbed, throwing a dummy spit for the next three years.
Not that interested looking into crystal balls as well.
What about talking about policy, while it still matters.
So the makeup thing was Rudd throwing a tantrum. He smiled at her, not abused her. His crime was that her said nothing to her.
Summo, thanks for your excellent retort…. gosh, no getting around your genius and your total understanding of “about” ….. and I do like how you have truncated what was said.. ” …that banks pay about 5% interest… ” … with ” …that pays about 5% interest”. … but hey, RWingers do that, (it has something to do with RW ignorance/low cognitive ability/low IQ) ,…. Remember when the honorable Julia Gillard said “I don’t rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism. I rule out a carbon tax.” … and geniarses such as your good n’ noble self over simplified and cut the first part of what was said, 🙄 … Was that because it was beyond your basic comprehension??,… go figure… 😛
Oh and Summo ( though I am not sure you will ‘get it’, ay)… but just so you know 😉 ….Ignorance is not the same thing as low cognitive ability. Ignorance is something easily overcome, one simple must decide to learn what they do not know. However low cognitive ability means they do not have the capacity to understand that which they do not know. ( ewe r so the last sentence, baa)
…….. know what I mean, cobba.
*…. and please note how I refrained form calling ewe, baa, Dummo….. no mate, I didn’t because that would be wrong to ‘call out’ your, umm, obvious, umm, talent(s)…… because low cogs, like ewe, baa, need help… not endless ad hominems…. anyhoo, good luck and keep trying. 😀
Dear God, the liebral trolls on this site talk rubbish.
Labor’s done quite well. Should we be so unfortunate as to have an Abbott government soon, he’ll be praised as a political genius by the press. This is for them the downside of their role in evicting Labor, having to misdirect the credit that’s rightly theirs. But they’ll know who that credit really belongs to & so will Abbott.
As for blaming Labor, obviously Abbott & his lot will. It’ll be interesting to see what the media do. I usually think they’ve sufficient skin in this game that they’ll have to keep supporting their installation. Or more precisely continue their practice of ignoring his actions & focusing on taking apart the Labor opposition. But they’re arrogant fuckers sure of their ability to get their way in the end so Abbott will have to give them their due. This possibly won’t apply to the ABC, it’ll depend on what Rupert wants done with it.
And I might add that they’re over-staying their welcome, Bob. It might be a good idea if I tidied the place up a bit.
Michael I for one would be delighted to see a clean up. Their personal attacks are the sore spot with .
Their personal attacks are par for the course, water off a ducks back imo. They are like being attacked with a wet lettuce. Just kinda disgusting, but nothing a quick wash won’t get rid of.
It is their recycling of ltdnews outright lies, and then point blank refusal to address these lies that I find most galling. And many of them have outright declared that they just don’t care if they are lies. That is the most depressing of all. It is the Essendon mantra, “Whatever It Takes”
Well, it didn’t turn out too well for Essendon, let’s hope the same applies in politics.
Summo – worse still with Rudd retiring to Noosa , imagine Theresa Rein on
The Beach. Kevin could cook with gas on a B B Q somewhere.
For a quick look at Abbott’s latest brain farts “The biggest LNPblack hole is really the vacant space between Abbott’s ears!” 😯
http://truthseekersmusings.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/the-biggest-lnp-black-hole-is-really-the-vacant-space-between-tonys-ears/
Cheers 😀
And as if to prove a point in comes VOYAGER with yet another inane post that doesn’t add a single thing to the discussion or indeed general human discourse.
Then again I don’t think anyone here has come to expect anything better than mindless babble from him anyway.
I have only ever seen Voyager get hold of a post and turn it around if it hurts the lieberals.
In the meantime no one, especially the right wingers who go on about it so much, has noticed that Abbott has promised the same deficit as Labor.
bbott has promised the same deficit as Labor.
Except, when it comes to promises, his spending deficit is approaching Labors and Hockeys claim of $70 Billion Black Hole
Currently, Labor is around $15 Billion in the Green, with a lot of the nasties already done. tabot and his mob have so far made promises of over $60 Billion which they need to find the money for.
http://election.crikey.com.au/cash-tracker/
Is any ltdnews intrepid reporter chasing after tabot to find this missing $60 Billion + BLACK HOLE, or are they afraid that he will just tell them to Shut Up!?
Or are they still wasting space on kitchen-gate?
Interesting article on how both parties have favoured the rich wrt tax.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/08/24/taxs-a24.html
Have been deprived of internet these last few days, so will post quickly in case google can’t find the server.
Also m-i-l health issues. Was in town last f/n with her for urology & oncology appointments & was lucky enough to have radiation oncologist from RAH at QEH when she was there.
One extra day to have the tattoos done & then home, or so we thought. Short course ray treatment scheduled for last week.
Arrived back at motel, got her out of the car to shuffle to the room & she collapsed, so raced off to RAH by ambulance where she has been until Saturday when she came home by air ambulance & xferred to local hospital.
Fortunately, she had her treatment, so we’re waiting to see if it makes life a bit better for her in the time she’s got left.
She has a very aggressive, bulky malignant bladder cancer & I have my doubts that she will recover sufficiently to live independently, given the raft of other health issues she has.
She will be 85 this December, so has had a very good run, but the last 6 years bedeviled with health problems-hypos, broken femur, multiple falls, kidney collapse & removal etc, etc.
Watching all this has reinforced my conviction that being kept alive at all costs is a folly. No pleasure for anyone. Quality not quantity.
Our thoughts are with you and m-i-l Jane. 🙂
CWs quieter than a whisper, but you can still post.
What is going on with you all?
ps Luxebet 1/2hour ago.
Coalition $1.01. ALP. $15.00
Far worse than the darkest days of Ms Gillard
I suggest you read my new post. As well as August being a record month for visitors, it also included a record week and a record day.
As usual Michael the right wingers have their head in the sand in their hurry to denigrate those here and the site. That’s all it is with them, put downs, negativity, projection and hypocrisy. You never hear about positive policies, programs, the good of the country and the welfare of its people.
I can’t even find a modicum of pity for them though the prove themselves to be sad and wanting human beings that in normal circumstances would warrant some measure of sympathy.