Yes, one will think they are having feelings of deja vu, if this nation is unlucky enough to experience an L-NP government. Proudly sitting on that front bench, will be 16 MPs from the Howard government.
One could say, it will be a rebirth of the Howard government, six years after it was turfed out of power.
When Hockey and Abbott, along with Morrison say, we did it then, we will do it again, they mean, we will also be doing it with the same people.
Now some might find this comforting, Abbott apparently sees it as a sign of stability.
Even the election campaign of Abbott’s has just been picked up and dusted off from his 2010 effort. Nothing new in view.
Since the Howard days, nothing has been the same. We have experienced a major GFC; which much of the world has not yet recovered. We have seen a massive change in the world order, leading to the emergence of the Asian century. The economy has become global, as never before. We have seen the rising of the new technical and digital age.
Yes, we now have global trade and exchange of business, in a world where boundaries no longer count. Workers now move around the globe seeking work. It is becoming near to impossible to make big, and even some small industry pay taxes.
Yes, we are now in a world where tax revenues are decreasing each day.
Last night, we saw the two candidates that wish to be treasurer for the next three years.
Did we hear anything of the falling tax revenues? Did we hear anything of the structural imbalance within the budget? Did we hear of any plans on how to deal with the big problems, this and many other countries are facing, many that will need global answers.
All we heard from Hockey was lying, about debt, and manipulating and refusing to put his costings up front.
From Bowen, I would have liked to hear some answers to problems that are in the present, and the near future. I would have loved to hear some talk of taxation reform that might have prepared us for the future.
Yes, things like Better Schools, training opportunities to grow workers’ skills. Mr. Abbott, your dream of Independent public schools will not deliver. There is no evidence or data available, that says they will.
Same goes for the dismantling of the public hospital system, reverting back to being one of local community boards. That was discarded early last century, when hospitals moved from being Cottage Hospitals to the massive network of high technology hospitals we have today. Once again, yesterday’s solutions, for the problems of today, and tomorrow.
Then there is the dismantling of Medicare Locals, which many communities are already getting benefits. No thought taken, of deliberately wasting the money that has already been spent on them. In NSW and Queensland, we see their governments closing down community medical centres that have existed for decades. Clinics that deal with women’s issues. That deal with sexual disease and much more. One example, is the Liverpool Women’s Medical Centre. Clinics that cater mostly for the poor, and at risk in our society.
Yes, then there is the great infrastructure the new highways of this time, the NBNCo.
We have the NDIS, that brings the disabled into this age, and enables them to be a part of the economy, not only a drag on it.
Yes, Mr. Abbott, we know that grandiose roads tickle your fancy, but what about public transport, rail and even at the airport in Sydney. Yes, all essential infrastructure for the future.
Yes, there is much money, already available to train our young indigenous youth.
Yes, Mr. Abbott, I know you did promise to give money for this, but before you go ahead, it might be clever to have a look at what is already available. In fact might be helpful for you, and cheaper for us if you actually took time out to see what the Labor government has achieved in the last six years. Your answer seems to be, demolish, and replace it with your own schemes.
Mr. Abbott, many of your grandiose schemes could work within what is already established. Two for starters are Labor’s PPL and believe it or not, the CEFC.
Mr. Abbott, there seems to be only one reason to dismantle the NBNCo. at this stage. That is your ideology, and hatred of anything Gillard. All evidence indicates that NBNCo. in the long run will deliver the best available, at the cheapest cost. Yes, sometimes it is prudent to take the long time view.
Sorry, I do not want yesterday’s men in charge. I say men, as fewer women seem to be there as decoration, and to serve their masters. Women who found being told they are sexy as a compliment worry me.
I do not believe that the answers that work in the past, will work today. The world we live in today has entirely different problems, therefore requires different solutions.
Mr. Shorten, is now talking PNPC, asking what a good society is. Yes, I agree with him, it is one where women and men see the same. One that caters to all.
A good society should empower all. Yes, I want a good society, do you?
es, listening to Mr. Shorten, talking on education at the NPC. ABC24
Goes for education. goes for broadband. Goes for NDIS. Goes for CEF. Goes for protecting the environment. Goes for protecting Native Land Rights.
Yesterday, Mr. Hunt announced another bureaucracy. A commission for endangered species.
Mr. Hockey made great play of the word waste last night. Who decides what is waste.
I wonder, after years of efficiency dividends, or whatever they are called, if there is much waste to be found in the Commonwealth Public Service today.
I suspect, that Labor has been cutting the service for years.
yes they have experience taking aus to war in iraq based on lies, they have experience in turning a blind eye to the awb paying bribes to saddam hussein, they have experience in lying about children overboard and terrorists on asylum seeker boats, they have experience in hurting working families with work choices and much more experience that hurt australias reputation around the world.
If they have so many ex-Ministers, why do they need a Commission of Audit to tell them what government departments do. Are they that stupid?
Speaking of cost & waste, here is a table of the extra tax companies will have to pay to fund Liealot’s Rich Women’s Have a Baby Scheme.
And if he thinks the tax slug won’t be passed on to consumers, he’s more stupid or mendacious than we thought.
And if anyone still thinks voting for the Liars is a good idea, after reading this I hope they enjoy the real cost of living increases they’ll have to pay when this mob gets their bums on the Treasury benches.
The short answer is YES.
Yes, indeed yesterday’s man. Most have caught up to the decimal system, even us oldies.
I reckon $1.65 a day and a big bowl of gruel for hard work is the foundation of a good society.
And also children working down the coal mines is the Utopian dream of the “Working Family.” Advance.
And if the kids are too young to swing the pick then they can be canaries in the playpens. Animal rights, after all.
Society can only function if there is a national law that prohibits whistling on Tuesdays. There has to be order!
Australians want a stable functioning Government in the recent Labor era
we have had 3 Prime Ministers and 3 Deputy Prime Ministers. Two of each
unelected by the people, the days of this dysfunctional rabble are over.
Nope scaper, just respect for one another. Just want for others. you want for yourself.
Fed up and,
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scaper, it is not a good idea to take from the bottom, to give more to the top. Not prudent, as if you weaken the bottom, the top will topple over.
Jane, that was definitely (one of) my WTF moments, Abbott saying that Woolies and Coles won’t pass the extra costs onto consumers…ummm, since when…
Yes, Voyager, that is true, and governance has continued without faltering. The economy is still among the best in this unstable global economy,. Yes, Voyager there could be rough seas ahead. If so, surely we want one that can identify and deal with todays and tomorrows problems. Not one, that seems to be struck back, in the past, a long way back in the past.
We witness, the new Treasure of a few short weeks, take the Opposition treasurer of, is it six years taken apart.
Stability, keeping men from a government, kicked out over six years ago, does not excite me. One could call it stagnation, the inability to come up with anything new. The inability to see what needs to be changed, and the lack of guts to do it
Fed up, so many excellent points made by yourself. A question..has the world changed in the last almost 6 years? I personally believe that we have but it’s become very much a slow down of evolution since Abbott became LOTO, in fact regression if anything. We used to talk about *the great dumbing down*, so perhaps Abbott is a man of the times…
But isn’t $1.65 a day and a really, really big bowl of gruel for all, equality?
Gee, you seem to want gold plated socialism when gruel for all and a generous stipend would be within reach.
scaper, you are not even making sense today. That is disappointing.
Then it is hard to defend the indefensible.
The looks on the face of that audience last night, the time for blustering is long past.
You watch TV? That is the evil MSM according to this place.
They say the polls are bad. It appears it depends on what ones you follow.
That aside, I remember another election, where Howard was traveling badly. The Tampa, a few lies, false pictures, soon turned his luck around.
Abbott’s conviction is to do whatever it takes to get elected. That is his conviction. ABC 24 Drum
What I have been saying for a long time. Business will not want the uncertainty of dismantling CEF and all it entails. It will not be looking forward to Abbott’s threats of DD and more elections, that follow to do so.
The present so called carbon tax is a moderate attempt at deal;ig with man made climate change. In fact many business benefit from it.
Min, no one can deny, the world has changed. Change more quickly, than any other time in my lifetime. Maybe, except for WWW ll, when I was born. .
Could you imagine, five years ago, the time we spend today, sitting in front of a computer, at work or at home. Should extend that, to wherever we go
Yes, the CEF, including the so called carbon taxes, create jobs.
Yes, we ignore the environment at our own peril.
The foundation of a good society?
Instead of squabbling between youselves about how much of other people’s money you can spend and where, and how much more you can squeeze out of them, lets hear your ideas about how you can reduce the horrendous levels of direct and indirect taxation on working people and retirees by cutting the waste and the gifts to those who do not deserve it.
Who is squabbling?
It is Abbott, that is attacking the self funded retiree. How did you miss that one., The the level of 1.7 billion I believe. It is Abbott that has the grandiose schemes, that none support, just like his Direct action.
It is business, that is now suggesting, that CEF be left in place.
You do need to catch up.
Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/8/20/politics/political-bastardry-leaves-us-all-peril#ixzz2cVh3Tc5S
How many budget deficits did Bob Menzies deliver, Just read 17. Cannot remember, but do recall a couple of nasty mini budgets were he got the figures wrong. There was one Horror Budget, that even after all this time, is hard to forget.
For all the time, he was in power, a record he still holds, many say, he wasted the post war boom.
Ragnvald @9.42pm, speaking of wasteful spending money on people who don’t deserve it, I would have thought you’d be outraged at Lielaot’s gifts for rich women to have babies.
After all, women who earn $100-150k/annum, shouldn’t need government money to afford to have a baby. Most of them would already have generous parental leave schemes financed by their employers, unlike their very much less well paid sisters.
And it’s not very good form to rob retirees to finance rich women’s maternity leave, don’t you agree?
And then there’s the price hike big companies will impose on everyone as they pass on Liealot’s great big new rich PPL tax to the rest of us.
I must say I never thought that you’d have a word of criticism for anything the Liars do, but it seems you’re on board with this one. Well done!
And for all the Liars whingers, you should ponder on this.
Debt or spending is not the problem. It is our tax base? When are the pollies going to begin talking about what they intend to do.
As a retiree, I am disgusted that my superannuation is affected (and in the long term ‘effected’) by a PPl scheme that favours the rich, and their ability to rort same.
Why is Abbott introducing a ‘GREAT BIG NEW TAX’? Why is he engaging in ‘class warfare’, particularly against the elderly?
Yes, those hand outs to middle/upper income earners are to be restored. It is the economy stupid.
Wonder why Abbott does not believe these woman will put the money through the pokies, as they believe low income muns do.
I see that Mathias Cormonn agrees that self funded retirees will suffer. But all, according to him is not lost. as profits improve, you will get more back.
Everyone will suffer except for Abbott’s buddies. You bet they will destroy as much as they can. You just have to look at the way Abbot has carried on over there years, all his life actually. Just a me man and all for himself, and goes destroys everything else. We are in big trouble if the Australian public are so stupid to vote him in. It is worth fighting like hell to stop him
Better leave town Heather. Coalition $1.08 ALP $7.50 and drifting
And here is what the Indonesians think of Abbott’s idea of buying Indonesian fishing boats..from the Jakarta Post.