Conspiracies

You can’t help but be tempted to click on a headline as ludicrous as this one: 12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country, which I did, out of complete curiosity. It took me to a list of America’s most popular conspiracy theories. You can tell by the headline that some of these must be completely ludicrous. After all, everybody knows that reptiles haven’t run America since the days of the Bush/Cheney Administration. Nonetheless, I thought they’d provide a great talking point and perhaps you could add a few of your own.

We have our own local conspiracy theories, such as the CIA involvement in the dismissal of Whitlam, or the alleged kidnapping of Holt by the Chinese. The latter is the craziest thing I’ve heard, but it was running rampant in the late 60s. Anyway, here’s the list:

Conspiracy Percent believing Number of Americans believing
JFK was killed by conspiracy 51 percent 160,096,160
Bush intentionally misled on Iraq WMDs 44 percent 138,122,178
Global warming is a hoax 37 percent 116,148,195
Aliens exist 29 percent 91,035,072
New World Order 28 percent 87,895,931
Hussein was involved in 9/11 28 percent 87,895,931
A UFO crashed at Roswell 21 percent 65,921,948
Vaccines are linked to autism 20 percent 62,782,808
The government controls minds with TV 15 percent 47,087,106
Medical industry invents diseases 15 percent 47,087,106
CIA developed crack 14 percent 43,947,966
Bigfoot exists 14 percent 43,947,966
Obama is the Antichrist 13 percent 40,808,825
The government allowed 9/11 11 percent 34,530,544
Fluoride is dangerous 9 percent 28,252,264
The moon landing was faked 7 percent 21,973,983
Bin Laden is alive 6 percent 18,834,842
Airplane contrails are sinister chemicals 5 percent 15,695,702
McCartney died in 1966 5 percent 15,695,702
Lizard people control politics 4 percent 12,556,562

43 comments on “Conspiracies

  1. I’m wondering how long it will be before people in the States start to believe that the Boston bomber brothers have been set up, that there’s an extremist rightist group somewhere conspiring to blacken the Muslim religion, as one of their aunts has already suggested. I must say I myself find it hard to believe that these two could be acting alone and capable of such brutal indifference to the suffering of innocent bystanders, particularly children. But we know so little about them and how they could have become so alienated and radicalised.

  2. I’ve heard rumblings that CW dosn’t actually have a cellar 😯 ….. it’s a conspiracy I tells ya… *clink* ….. not ‘virtually’ true 😀

  3. The old non-existant cellar conspiracy, I hear ‘you’ say or was that Max ?…… the ‘thing’ I like about the cellar is how close it is to the archived section 😉 ….or another way to enter the ‘cellar’ is through the Categories section ➡ ….. just click on a category that seems interesting and *clink* your in the ‘cellar’ or as I like to call it… ” the information super cellarway” 🙄 …… but please remember it’s strictly BYO……. and theres no coffee 😯 …. thats that ‘conspiracy put to bed. …….or is it (roll twilight zone music)…… or is this just some shameless plug for the Cafe and it’s wonderful cellar …… mmm ❗

  4. You spun me a gotcha there, Möbius. I believe in the crash and the subsequent conspiracy to cover it up.

  5. My favourite, not mentioned here is that the Twin Tours were toppled in a multinational real estate deal involving the Bin Laden family not as terrorists but as Civil Engineers. They, the Bin Laden’s knew they had a nut bag son who would happily “get the ball” rolling. All the US (Bush and Cheney/Haliburton) had to do was to ensure that the towers would come down after impact and so they secured to installation of the demolition charges which did bring the towers down!
    The invasion of Iraq, for oil, was the bonus!.
    They just get better really!!!!!
    So the real conspiracy, the overarching one, is the one we fall victim to on a daily basis, that democracy actually exists!

  6. There was a recent conspiracy theory published here by some of the usual suspects that the announcement of the drugs in sport enquiry was all made up by the Government to take attention away from Obeid.

    The only question now is just how deep this goes. I am glad that it has been exposed, as I think many players are too. And I haven’t seen any of those making the initial allegations front up to admit their ‘mistake’ either.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/melbourne-president-don-mclardy-says-the-afl-must-guarantee-the-integrity-of-the-league/story-e6frf9mf-1226625296519

  7. Mobius and,

    The conspiracy is the cover up.

    Interesting concept. The meaning that I read into this is that any conspiracy theory takes away X amount of credibility. Therefore if you do not want a thorough scientific investigation, the tactic is to create one or a number of conspiracy theories.

  8. I heard in a news report this morning that the injuries of young Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev are such that he may never be well enough for questioning.

    Convenient?

  9. For those who like a good conspiracy theory I recommend the Australian publication “New Dawn Magazine”. This magazine discusses quite a few interesting conspiracy theories and provides some scientific basis for why they believe what they believe

  10. I believe the MIB series thankfully all the nutjobs exist in the USA, they do don’t they now who is that ringing my doorbell…….

  11. Deknarf, given that Abbott is the proverbial snake in the grass I can only agree with you.

    Patricia, yes, all too convenient.

    Bilko, don’t let the MIB intimidate you. Claim ignorance. You saw nothing!

  12. A new conspiracy doing the rounds is that John Lennon was killed by a Manchurian Candidate planted by the MI5, ie, Mark Chapman. The first words he spoke after his arrest was “I acted alone”. What an odd thing to say.

    Apparently someone tried to get some documents about the killing under FOI but they were classified as ‘national security’ and hence couldn’t be released. Now why would John Lennon’s assassination at the hands of a mad man be classified as ‘national security’?

  13. Patricia, it appears the man is communicating with police.

    It appears the media is still into making up the story as it goes along.

  14. Tom and,

    Is Roswell a botnet run from on board the captured craft within Area51?

    I would say yes, but that’s just another conspiracy theory…

    BTW, Elvis is still alive and performing in downtown Las Vegas..we saw him numerous times..in fact he was almost on every street corner.

  15. Another one is that fluoride in water is a poison and was used by the Russians to try to induce schizophrenia. Believe it or not there are many who have expensive water filters to try to keep this demon poison out of their systems.

  16. Roswell
    claiming ignorance would put me in the noalition camp of, I have no recollection etc etc, if I am asked my name, like in the Games I will just ask for some unfluoride water, you don’t have to be paranoid to think they are out to get you.

  17. Mick Young used to say, “If you have to choose between a conspiracy against Labor and a fuck-up, choose the fuck-up every time”. Sobering thought? More likely to drive one to drink!

  18. Just heard Abbott say, NBN will be 60 billion less than Labor’s scheme, That has to be straighout lying.

  19. Abbott says the kids education bonus to go. Nothing to do with education. I wonder when having the ability; it to equip one child for school, had nothing to do with education.

    Could even help get that laptop, now that the laptop scheme has finished, as planned.

    We have him also saying, the cuts to tertiary education that Labor are making are to stay.

    Good feedback from community forum

    “…PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has fronted voters at the Herald Sun/Sky News People’s Forum in the knife-edge marginal seat of Deakin.

    Ms Gillard plans to use the forum at 5.30pm on Monday at the Burvale Hotel in Nunawading to step up the fight to win support for her $14.5 billion school funding plan.

    The forum comes as Federal Government figures reveal families in the nation’s most marginal seats of Deakin and Corangamite will be $2200 a year worse off under a Coalition government.

    About 100 undecided voters from the country’s second most marginal seat of Deakin, chosen by Galaxy Research, will be able to quiz the PM.

    People’s Forum with Julia Gillard: watch it live on heraldsun.com.au and Sky News National from 5.30pm. Follow our live blog on your mobile device….”

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/families-will-be-worse-off-under-coalition-federal-government-figures-reveal/story-e6frf7kx-1226625439968

  20. Is this another conspiracies. Nothing wrong with education funding in this country.

    “UPDATED
    Coalition leader Tony Abbott says the federal government’s proposed education changes are too expensive and unnecessary because there is no fundamental problem with the way schools are funded.
    Mr Abbott said the changes were too costly in the current budget context and that many things could be done to improve education without spending ‘‘vast dollops of new money’’.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-says-no-need-for-gonski-funding-reforms-20130421-2i7wy.html#ixzz2RBDVc4mn.”

  21. If Julia can front up to an “unscripted” MSM peoples forum…. why can’t Tony….. let him explain– face to face– with the voters of ‘any’ electorate how their kids are not worth “vast dollops of new money”, yet purport that the present scheme, which gives vast dollops of money to, suposed, private schools, is not broken….. let him be asked unscripted questions in front of an unscripted audience on any subject……. as if.
    A vote for Tony Abbott is a vote for WTF…..

  22. Yes LOVO. The contrast between Abbott’s and Gillard’s fora could not be more stark.

    Abbott stammering with scripted questions and rote simplistic answers, even Laurie Oaks picked up on that fact, plus two head nodding minders either side of him to “steer” him if he went astray, whilst Gillard was standing right up to the front row on her own answering everything thrown at her with dignity and lucidity.

  23. Dear Min,
    I have thought long and hard about the state of politics in this country, and I have recently been reminded of what my then girl friend told me when I first arrived here in the early 1970’s. She explained to me that a labour government in Australia is an accident, it is an aberration. The very nature of Australian society meant that a conservative view point held sway in the electorate. The election of Whitlam was a welcome relief for the urban dwellers, but came about because of a dearth of ideas and initiatives on the conservative side of politics, combined with a generational change. Why this lack of initiative should have been there, and is still there in the right, should be the subject of some study.
    Fraser’s term of office was a return to the status quo, aided by Whitlam’s desperate, and doomed, attempts to bring Australia into the mid-twentieth century.

    I was absent from Australia during the latter part of Keating’s government, and Howard’s term, (fortunately), so I cannot comment on their terms of office with any confidence.

    The next election will in all probability introduce a conservative government. After listening to the news a few nights back, and being presented with details of what Abbott’s colleague said to Mr. A. Penfold, I do fear that, upon the reins of office being transferred, there will be more than a little revenge in the air. Australians will be punished for having the temerity to vote a labour government in, in 2007.

    The right side of politics only know austerity. There is a complete vacuum of ideas within their intellect. There is no vision, for the Australian future other than having a surplus in the budget. There are no ideas for the Australian future, other than cutting costs, reducing government expenditure, and to do this they will even provide a worse than second rate internet service (their NBN to the node), whilst parts of Asia will be light years ahead of us within 5 years. Is this all that Australia has to show for the minerals boom, is this the full gamut of their ambition for this country? I have long held the view that all the average Australian will have to show for this unprecedented influx of wealth will be a flat screen TV, (made in China), and a new Holden in the drive, (built by a company owned and managed in another country). (Please read The Guardians’ Polly Toynbee for a recent castigation of the “austerity” driven economic recovery).

    Regretfully, I feel that the tenor of articles and correspondence in Café Whispers has become subdued, and I feel, resigned to a change of government this coming September. I must encourage all who want to live in a country that is not held in thrall to big business, and the corporations, to fight now as they have never fought before.

    Best Regards,

    Deena Bennett

  24. Deena, what a good thought out contribution. Could not agree more. TTime to look past the personalities and dwell on policies.

    Yesterday we had Abbott and Pyne out, attempting to divert attention to away from Gonski.

    Abbott even ignored the fact that future ways of financing the budget need to be addressed seriously. Yes, we need to look at our priorities, and how we fund them.

    Yes, Maye the tax system is in disrepair. What amuses Abbott, a few refugees coming to this country. What fascinates Pyne. Yes, he believes he knows better what the curriculum should be. No black armband view of history. Not teaching about multiculturalism and the great things migration has bought in this country. Nothing about our indigenous people. That only leaves our children shame. NO, we need to teach them about Anzac, and the wondrous things white people have achieved.

    I suggest that both are being taught. What child knows nothing about the Anzacs. Maybe they should be taught about the great depression. Maybe learning something about Jack Lang, along with pig iron Bob would not go amiss.

    When at school in the 1950’s, I was an amazed at what was taught in history. Yes, mostly the first and second world war, taught from the British viewpoint. Never did history. More interested in geography and social studies. Thought the way histroy was taught was wrong the. After 60 years, have not changed my mind.

    We, along with most of the globe, have serious budget structural defects. What do we have from Abbott and Co. More three word slogans and condemnation of everything Labor has done. Yes, the Abbott’s answer is to say he will do away with the kids education bonus. Something that will make little difference to budget problems. At the same time, digging his heels into bringing in his unnecessary and expensive maternity scheme, where most of the money goes to those with ot need.

    I believe we have seen Wong and other Labor leaders out yesterday, attempting to talk seriously about today’s problems. Yes, attempting to give solutions, and very clear about what they want to do.

    We need the same from Abbott. What does he intend to cut. How does he intend to raise the necessary money, to put in place the essential infrastructure this country needs, to allow us to be among the winners. In this, the Asian century.

  25. Dear “Fed-Up”,

    Thank you for your kind remarks regarding my previous post.

    Further to my earlier words, I would like the commentariat and opinionistas in the Australian media to be held to high account for their words. There is an older generation that is adept at using electronic communication, in its many guises, and with time available they must surely strongly respond to the distortions, hyper-dramatization, and their kow-towing to authority, and condescension that is consistently presented to the general public as valid news.

    Best Regards,

    Deena Bennett

  26. “. NSW has become the first of the states and territories to sign up to the federal government’s education funding deal.

    ‘This is a historic announcement,’ Prime Minister Julia Gillard, flanked by NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell, told reporters.

    Federal Labor has given the states and territories until June 30 to agree to a two-for-one-dollar arrangement that delivers $14.5 billion in funding for schools.

    NSW is the first of the states and territories to sign the deal.

    ‘We’re delighted to sign up to this arrangement’ Mr O’Farrell said….”

    http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=865972&vId=

    Maybe the words of Reith and Abbott, saying the spending was not necessary, scared him into action.

  27. Thanks for your contribution, Deena.
    Despite the signs, I certainly don’t accept any inevitability about the threat of an lnp victory in the coming election.
    The fatal flaw in the conservative approach is that they are continually at war with reality, preferring their delusions and comfortable lies, when not engaged in shambolic and illegal attempts to gain power without having to face the electorate.
    Reality always prevails in any such contest, the only question remaining whether it will do so in the shorter or longer term.

  28. Listening to QandA, I am happier about the coming election. Felt that Tanya might have got the message over. Dutton did not make much of an impression.

    Was surprised at the audience. All appeared to be listening to every word said.

    Abbott does not seem to be having much success with his diversionary tactics. No one seems to be listening, refugee truck or not.

    I feel that is not what the public wants to hear.

    Serious questions were asked last night about health.

  29. Serious questions were asked last night about health.

    Yes, fascinating isn’t it.

    Let Joe Public loose, and pertinent policy questions abound.

    If it was left to the media, all we would have is “show me the money”

    I’m not sure the opposition can handle another 5 months of voters asking them policy questions. Prepare for a very carefully stage managed but very aloof opposition. They’ll stick with safe bets like PvO, who won’t even call them on lies when they know full well that they are lying.

  30. The first thing that Abbott did yesterday, on learning that O’Farrell had signed, was lying. He accused the PM of panicking and offering the NSW premier more to sign.

    O’Farrell clearly said, the deal he signed was the same as offered last week.

    Yes, the same. The NSW premier also said he signed, because it was a good deal. It was better than the present system which is not up to scratch, that the new one is much fairer.

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