No names, please

I don’t know about you, but I’m getting fed up with the sensationalist crap coming from the pens of the Murdoch media lately. Did I say ‘lately’? I should have said ‘perpetually’. Is there any end to it?

Two of the articles that stink of journalistic diarrhea come from Gemma Jones in the space of 12 hours, both seen on news.com. The first is about the old media favourite: a Rudd challenge to Julia Gillard. Here is a link to the article, Ides of March: PM, Rudd set for battle. The story leads off with

A final showdown between Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd could come within weeks, as tensions in the Labor caucus rose yesterday over the leaking of a letter critical of the former PM.

She gives the story some ‘weight’ by introducing into the article a host of people that could have easily been fabricated, as so might be their alleged statements. Yet they litter almost every paragraph. The paragraphs are below, where I have highlighted the ‘fictitious’ people.

Supporters of Mr Rudd yesterday accused the Gillard supporters of circulating a damaging letter from a member of the public to the media and among the caucus . . .

Claiming it was in retaliation for Mr Rudd’s public attacks over the failed mining tax, several Rudd backers claimed there was now a push within his ranks to “finish the thing before the end of March”.

Mr Rudd has been privately counselled by some of his key backers to pull back from his public campaign for fear it could spark another showdown before they are ready.

And a source close to the PM said Ms Gillard would not rise to the bait and had no intention of goading the former PM while she still had the numbers behind her.

But many in Parliament believe another challenge to Ms Gillard’s leadership is being hatched.

MPs have been seen openly coming and going from Mr Rudd’s office this week.

One Rudd supporter yesterday admitted that the issue was coming to a head but wanted to give the appearance that “nothing was going on”. “There is nothing happening, no counting, nothing going on,” they said. (“They said”? I thought there was only one supporter).

“But it would be fair to say though that a lot of MPs are becoming increasingly despondent about their prospects after the disasters of the past few weeks.”

Another MP, who supports Mr Rudd, said: “Every day is a blow, every day there is something that dents the confidence of members in the leadership . . . “.

An MP who backed Mr Rudd in the leadership ballot last year said caucus members were “shaking their heads” over the $126 million return on the mining tax and reports yesterday that a $4 billion hole could be left in the Budget when the carbon tax moves to an ETS if the price plunges, as predicted.

Just about every paragraph in the first half of the story is built around what an un-named person insists upon. They could be anybody. Perhaps even Piers Akerman’s distinguished eye surgeon. Names are introduced at the end of the article, by which time readers would be the ones “shaking their heads”.

In today’s article about taxpayers paying for NBN coffee, Jones didn’t make up many names, just the story. On the front page of news.com we read that:

Aussies are frothing at the mouth over news NBN is spending over $164,000 on fancy beans and coffee machines. You can read her article here, titled Libs foaming over NBN coffee perk. Have a read of the article and tell if you see where it says that Aussies are frothing at the mouth or whether the Libs are foaming over the coffee machines.

Actually, don’t bother as they aren’t there. It’s just another one of those pathetic headlining bullshit stories that have become the trademark of the Murdoch media. Expect it to get worse as the election nears. Much, much worse.

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132 comments on “No names, please

  1. Rudd is there waiting for an opportunity.
    Every time PM Dillard is overseas he ramps up his media presence. Why?
    It happens everytime since his first Knifing by Ms Dillard.
    He is such a media tart every politician should take lessons from K Rudd.

  2. I think it’s a good idea to name the journalists who can’t be trusted with the unbiased truth. For me it’s 3 strikes and they’re out. Off my radar. That’s two strikes for Gemma Jones. Still she’s keeping in good with murdoch so that’ll keep her in a job until he’s ready to let her go (she’s doesn’t write like she’s in a union)

  3. A reliable source close to British PM just told me that Rupert was very angry with him over the grilling he and James received over ‘phone hacking’ scandal, but that they’ve now kissed and made up. A different source confirmed that they met for lunch and discussed plans to force the Queen to retire, and for Britain to be subsumed by a yet to be set up state owned by Murdoch. I’m very reliably informed that the Head of State will be nominated by Rupert and that the Queen is to retire to Australia, where she will still be Queen. Royal sources confirm that Her Majesty has always had a soft spot for Australia, and the she is hoping to set up house with the Pope, as palace sources have hinted that Prince Philip has been dead for sometime. My Vatican source refused to respond to the rumour, but there was a tweet from a Catholic friend that suggested he had news about the queen.

  4. Tony Abbott has announced that he will build a dam in every suburb.

    “Mums and Dads need a dam,” he said, “for drinkin’ water and splashin’ about in.”

    When questioned on how he will be able to afford to build a dam in every suburb, he replied, “It won’t cost us a cent. We’re gonna bring in some beavers on temporary work visas, give ’em some sticks and let ’em at it. We’ll pay them in fish or whatever it is beavers eat.”

    The man is a fuckwaddling douchecanoe.

  5. I reckon the journalists ???? from the Murdoch press must be on a bonus. Whoever spews out the best bile must be on a bonus because every story is bigger than the last one. I wonder if they say to each other “my story was better then your story” because the content of stories coming from the Murdoch press is full of S@#$.

  6. Funny post Migs. I thought the same thing this morning and noted that Rudd wouldn’t comment. I commented on this fact and asked News (via a comment on the story – as that is all it is – it isn’t news) where was their evidence and their job should be reporting facts – not speculation. The comment wasn’t published.

  7. “I reckon the journalists ???? from the Murdoch press must be on a bonus. Whoever spews out the best bile must be on a bonus because every story is bigger than the last one. I wonder if they say to each other “my story was better then your story” because the content of stories coming from the Murdoch press is full of S@#$.”

    That would have to be up there with “Mossad flew the planes into the towers” conspiracy theories…get real people!

  8. Or perhaps they’re not, the Iraq venture didn’t go well. Not talking about the AWB’s Iraq venture here, of course.

  9. I’m just wondering how coffee beans can be “fancy”..do they come with little miniature engravings? Or perhaps with little stickers of the Easter bunny…

  10. I shouldn’t have said Howard or anyone was grateful for the twin towers. He wasn’t & I’d like to withdraw that.
    Should be better here.
    The idea that journalists engage in some sorts of competitive & rewarding endeavour & are perhaps subject to their employers whims is, however, so self evident that it’s beyond any real criticism.

  11. Miglo, maybe she is right about a leadership challenge. The following quote is taken from a recent Julie Bishop piece “Circle the ides of March in your diaries where chaos, history, a full moon and pandemonium will prevail”

  12. Miglo, I know you probs will but please read my comment re Julie Bishop quote ‘Ides of March’ Cheers, Carmel

    ________________________________

  13. Min there are just two types of commercially grown coffee beans in the world, and coffee is not a bean.

  14. NBN coffee machines, just the sort of thing t.hat will surely have the mob storming the barricades on a Saturday afternoon

  15. The libs shouldn’t be doing too much foaming over the coffee, it’ll be a small cost in comparison to what they’ll be shelling out for bottled water & pith helmets as the public service is moved north to build the dams. A policy which hasn’t made it to the night’s ABC news, dunno about 7.30, given up.
    Perhaps, if you already know the gist of the day’s news, the ABC can be viewed as a barometer, an indicator, of the day’s approved coalition talking points?

  16. If the Opposition are worried about NBN staff having coffee machines in the office..just wait until they find out about the Breville toastie makers..

  17. Mobius
    You might be onto something there. What a go that’d be for a landholder. Abbott comes along with taxpayer’s money & builds a dam to water the trees he gives you & pays you to look at once in a while. So Asia’s teeming millions miss out again.

  18. Why do we pay any attention to The Australian. Nobody buys it, its distribution is limited to freebies in coffee bars and doctors waiting rooms. I do wonder how the “journalists” and “opinionista’s” that fill its’ banal and predictable pages hide their employment details on their C.V’s. Having worked for Murdoch must be the kiss of death if you are looking for a position on a journal of any repute. It is his radio and television that pose a real danger.

  19. Deena B.
    Agreed. It just seems that people do. It’s a sort of agreement that what’s in it sets the tone. And in a way it does as the rest of the Murdoch empire marches along. And the Murdoch empire’s big.

  20. I have been a Guardian reader ever since I was at college, much to my fathers annoyance, (he never forgave it for the stance it took to what was happening in Germany in the 1930’s). Does anyone know when is it opening in Australia? And does anybody know what its coverage will be?

  21. I am appalled,… fancy an employer providing coffee for their employees 😯 ….unheard of 🙄 next they will try and tell me that people are having ‘smoko’ and drinking said coffee that the employer provided 😯 🙄 …… bloody workers getting free coffee…… collusion I tells ya 😀 ……..one wonders how much the ‘Bonox’ bill comes to….. 🙄 ….. sorry for being a pedant 🙄 😆

  22. If they get coffee, next thing we know, it’ll be toilet paper. And not the 40 grit us marginals are used too, it’ll be that soft stuff ya see on the tele.

    I await with eager anticipation the expose into soft toilet paper WASTE distributed to NBN workers who should just HTFU!!

  23. Why do we pay any attention to The Australian.

    Because, for some bizarre reason, they set the media cycle. They lead, and their partners, the ABC and the tv stations follow on.

    I have said before, the oo possess the ability to do extremely good investigative reporting. The problem is, it is ideologically driven, which limits their ‘investigative’ side, as they investigate only one angle, and then present it in such an unhinged manner, that it often loses all investigative status completely (imo)

    Social media users are berated for endlessly whining about the state of the mainstream media, but until they see change, why shouldn’t they keep criticising, asks Tim Dunlop.Social media users are berated for endlessly whining about the state of the mainstream media, but until they see change, why shouldn’t they keep criticising, asks Tim Dunlop.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4518748.html

    I AGREE!

  24. “Why do we pay any attention to The Australian. Nobody buys it, its distribution is limited to freebies in coffee bars and doctors waiting rooms. I do wonder how the “journalists” and “opinionista’s” that fill its’ banal and predictable pages hide their employment details on their C.V’s. Having worked for Murdoch must be the kiss of death if you are looking for a position on a journal of any repute. It is his radio and television that pose a real danger.”

    What planet are you on Deena?

  25. “I don’t know about you, but I’m getting fed up with the sensationalist crap coming from the pens of the Murdoch media lately. Did I say ‘lately’? I should have said ’perpetually’. Is there any end to it?

    Two of the articles that stink of journalistic diarrhea come from Gemma Jones in the space of 12 hours, both seen on news.com. The first is about the old media favourite: a Rudd challenge to Julia Gillard. Here is a link to the article, Ides of March: PM, Rudd set for battle. The story leads off with

    A final showdown between Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd could come within weeks, as tensions in the Labor caucus rose yesterday over the leaking of a letter critical of the former PM”

    Oh but you couldn’t countenance the possibility that krudd’s seven youtube clips in the last three days give any credence whatsoever to Gemma Jones’ article now could you?

    et, etc etc!

  26. Actually for a business to have coffee machines makes good sence. At Price Coopers. Jtec and Scitec I would spend a fortune on coffee for clients. What do you give people who ate growing your business, supermarket international roast? Question time yesterday was full of this type of desperation.

  27. Tom @6.40am and Tim would know, being at the forefront of the blogging revolution and via news.com. I know that there are some who condescendingly sneer at the mere mention that there might be bias and who point the finger and say, Look at yourselves, you’re a blog..where’s the balance! But of course, that is not the job of blogs, to provide balance within their own confines but to provide balance to the decidedly unbalanced MSM.

  28. Ricky, in spite of the very overblown headline concerning the *gasp* coffee machines, the reasoning given in the text of the article was..wait for it..that it’s more efficient to have a coffee machine in the office than person-hours being wasted by people having go to coffee shops to buy their own.

    You know what..of all the issues that the Opposition could have decided to have input into instead of regurgitating their usual 3-word slogans, it turned out to be criticism of coffee machines. 🙄

  29. Yes Min, no bias, even in their ABC 😉

    Although, what more would expect from religious nutters

  30. Have you ever seen anything more desperate than the oppn’ moves on this govt’…they and their media arm..did I say ARM!?…I meant ars*hole! are still pushing for a story…There is one in the sedition attempt of Ashby/Brough/Pyne/?…but no!…they would rather concentrate on a 20yr. old wannabe AWU. case w/ no cred at all….Now..one has to ask and ask with extreme prejudice…what are the police doing in their investigation?…….Can we say : Nothing!?….also…can we ask ..:”Who are all these Lawlers that seem to have a member of the family in every branch of the legal system?……and thirdly must we notice that “Voyager of Sydney” is a little tu*d!?

  31. Tom, Migs and I spotted that one yesterday. Presumably the ABC would have problems with someone having a logo which is decidedly misleading, therefore one would have to assume that the tweet comes from the ABC. What happened to the ABC’s charter of impartiality?

  32. Tom @8.32am, there have been rumours circulating from unnamed sauces that staff at the NBN are “wasting” sheets and sheets of the stuff. There have been calls from the Opposition to limit every staff member to 4 sheets per visit.

  33. to limit every staff member to 4 sheets per visit.

    Do you know if these sheets are able to be accumulated, like sick days, or is it a case of use ’em when ya’ got ’em 😆

  34. At least the religious nutter using our tax payer dollars to push their own political agenda is coping a bit of flak

  35. On one side we have the MSM who it would seem, that every single time Tony fluffs his lines a quick counter is the tried and true Leadership Speculation theme.

    VIP is that according to Turnbull he himself has “no leadership aspirations”.

    ”I said a week or so ago everyone should take a long cold shower,” Mr Rudd told Channel Seven on Friday morning. ”What I’d say to Malcolm and you Joe (Hockey) is it’s time to jump in the ice bath”.

    On the speculation by Mr Turnbull – ”who has no leadership aspirations himself” – which was forming the basis for a discussion on whether he would challenge again for the leadership, Mr Rudd responded ”give me a break”.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-will-reinstall-rudd-says-turnbull-20130215-2egn0.html#ixzz2Kv2hDrN2

  36. Voyager, stop referring to the PM as Dillard, if u don’t like her at least say so or just shut up, and have some respect for people who do.

  37. From Bill Shorten on the above article..

    ”Australians this year want to see a competition of ideas, not just personalities.”

    One can but live in hope of that happening, however given the MSM and the right wingers almost complete exclusion of the notion of “ideas” and constant harping on the theme of personality….

  38. I just did a poll of my dog, cat, 4 goldfish, 6 flying fox fish and the blue tongue that lives in my backyard and Abbott got 0 using the Paul the Octopus method of polling. Gillard got 15 out 15 if the humans are included.

  39. When one looks at Mr. Rudd this week, and all those photos and support of the Opposition, one wonders what he could really be up to. Even he knows, it is to late to make a run.

    Could it be, that he is going for the final revenge, bringing down Labor, knowing that he has a future job in the bag. Wonder what the opposition has promised. Something at the UN.

    Nothing else makes sense.

  40. CU, if I were Mr Rudd I would feel very dubious about any “promise” coming from them, even if it was written in Liealot’s blood in quadruplicate and witnessed by God himself. Just another non-core promise.

    If the reports are true, Mr Rudd needs to get over himself, If they’re not it’s just another Liars scam.

  41. Jane, I have seen mp reports saying that. I am only going on the man y pictures we have seen with of Mr. Rudd, and the comments coming from the likes of Ms. Bishop. I have posted many to this site.

    I do not believe that the caucus would support him.

    They would go for someone else. I would find it hard, that anyone with ambition would fo ar this time.

    The PM did this, and look at the harm it has caused her.

    No, they will stick with the PM. The election will be closer than many believe.

    As for Mr. Rudd, one will find he will quickly lose the respect he has with some. His behaviour ar this time, re-inforces what many have said of him.

  42. one wonders what he could really be up to. Even he knows, it is to (sic) late to make a run

    No! Rudd is an egomaniac. For him it’s never too late. He’s a believer in ‘miracles’. But I will admit he has some grounds for this ‘arrogance’. He is ‘smart’, ‘clever’ or whatever laudatory descriptor one could choose to use. But he also is a dickhead.

    As for

    Could it be, that he is going for the final revenge, bringing down Labor,

    Perhaps. He certainly hates the factional system that still dominates Labor politics, but the reasons for same are best explained, in my opinion, because of what held his rise up and what happened subsequently re his demise. ( Btw, Rudd is not in need of a ‘job’ in any financial sense, but needs one in a egotistical sense.)

    Nothing else makes sense.

    The notion of ‘sense’, including ‘common sense’, is always difficult but worthy of exploration for serious thinkers. Put simply, it’s not ‘common’ and often it’s not even ‘sensible’.

  43. The sounds of silence this morning from a cafe of no consequence….

    Could it be today’s headlines:

    LABOR is at risk of posting a deficit of more than $10 billion this year as it seeks to fight an election on economic management.

    Mining levy debacle puts Wayne Swan’s future in doubt

    Wayne Swan may be Treasurer, but he’s certainly no treasure

    Year to date revenue is down more than spending and the deficit is huge. The MYEFO numbers are pure fiction.

    Or perhaps it’s this:

    “Social media users focused on Prime Minister Julia Gillard, opposition leader Tony Abbott, Craig Thomson and tax when talking about the surprise election announcement, an analysis has found…The key terms mentioned show users were focused on the arrest of independent MP Mr Thomson and other long-standing controversies such as the carbon tax but were less interested in big media stories such as the key Labor members Nicola Roxon and Robert McClelland announcing they would retire.

    When users talked about the election and the Labor Party or Ms Gillard, they were most likely to also mention Mr Abbott, tax and the “AWU (Australian Workers’ Union) scandal”.

    As Michael Smith puts it “people from a wide range of backgrounds hate the idea of theft, lies and skullduggery.”

  44. Australia’s most needlessly wasteful spending took place under the John Howard-led Coalition government rather than under the Whitlam, Rudd or Gillard Labor governments, an international study has found.

    The International Monetary Fund examined 200 years of government financial records across 55 leading economies.

    It identifies only two periods of Australian “fiscal profligacy” in recent years, both during John Howard’s term in office – in 2003 at the start of the mining boom and during his final years in office between 2005 and 2007.

    […]

    The IMF study mirrors findings of a 2008 Australian Treasury study that found real government spending grew faster in the final four years of the Howard government than in any four-year period since the 1990s recession.

    The number of spending decisions worth more than $1 billion climbed from one in the first Howard budget to nine in the last. The proportion of savings measures fell from one-third of budget measures at the start of the Howard era to 1.5 per cent at the end.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/hey-big-spender-howard-the-king-of-the-loose-purse-strings-20130110-2cj32.html

  45. No reprieve for Labor’s mining tax

    “The Reserve Bank of Australia has cast fresh doubts over Labor’s mining tax, warning that iron ore prices may tumble over the next three years to levels where it won’t generate any revenue.”

    http://www.afr.com/p/national/no_reprieve_for_labor_mining_tax_Ebj2VanJumtivb6QovXV7H

    Asylum seekers ram a billion-dollar hole in budget

    “THE federal government’s boat people policy is sinking Treasurer Wayne Swan’s budget with the cost of detaining asylum seekers blowing out by $1 billion”

    Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said the ANAO report exposed the government’s fudging. “The increase in Serco’s contract is 10 times what the government’s mining tax has raised in the past six months.”

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/asylum-seekers-ram-a-billion-dollar-hole-in-budget/story-e6freuy9-1226579186603

    Much of what is posted here is drivel about Swan’s competence as treasurer and the magnificent leadership of the ghastly gillard…

  46. Wayne Swan slammed me over tax, but I was right, says retired BDO partner John Murray

    “WHEN top accounting firm BDO warned Wayne Swan in 2011 that his mining tax could fail to collect much revenue, the Treasurer reacted by accusing it of “substantial errors” and “distorting the public debate”.

    More than a year later, John Murray, the BDO partner who crunched the numbers and issued what now appears to be a prophetic warning about the design flaws of the tax, describes the impact of Mr Swan’s public attacks on him as “horrific”.

    Mr Murray admits his modelling wasn’t perfect, mainly because the firm did not have access to the key data held by Treasury at the time, but he feels vindicated that BDO’s analysis has so far proved to be much more accurate than the government’s own MRRT revenue forecasts, which now appear to have been wildly optimistic.

    “It’s a lot closer than the millions of people running around in Canberra with PhDs who put the numbers together for the government,” he said….There was no upside – we got no fees out of this. There was only downside.”

    As Michael Smith puts it…There was only downside! What better epitaph for the Rudd/Gillard/Swan catastrophe.

  47. We hear every day how bad corruption is in this country. Yes but one would be led to believe, all corruptions reside in Labor, while all from the right, and all others are saints. Has Labor corrupted the country, or have they been led here by the example of those in the business community, and those on the right. Personally, I believe one can find corruption anywhere, and it has little to with Labor.

    “………………….Corruption is pervasive, diverse and present in almost all areas of society. From the “greed is good” heyday of the 1980s that encompassed the rise and fall of corporate high-flyers such as Christopher Skase, right through to the 2000s and the spectacular collapses of Enron and WorldCom in the US and HIH in Australia, the News of the World phone-hacking scandal, corruption seems to continue unabated….”

    http://theconversation.edu.au/the-perfect-injustice-is-australia-more-corrupt-than-we-think-12108?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+Weekend+Conversation&utm_content=The+Weekend+Conversation+CID_7a7fa17533959bcf25d369174a96138c&utm_source=campaign_monitor&utm_term=The%20perfect%20injustice%20is%20Australia%20more%20corrupt%20than%20we%20think

  48. Any discussion about Howard’s so called excesses is irrelevant!

    No point trying to pretend it didn’t happen, treetroll. He was the most wasteful prime minister IN TWO HUNDRED YEARS.

    And as Treasurer, the worst ever.

  49. “………………….The Liberal Party has come down with an infectious case of echolalia these past two years, afflicting their parliamentary transcripts with one relentlessly repeated phrase: carbon tax, carbon tax, carbon tax.

    The graphic above, based on data from OpenAustralia.org, illustrates the extent to which the carbon scheme came to dominate the party’s parliamentary rhetoric, surfacing in 2010 before Tony Abbott became leader, dwarfing every other term in 2011 as the government’s carbon bill hit Parliament, and still echoing in 2012 long after the bill had become law. In a single week in November 2011 the phrase passed Liberal lips a staggering 1,010 times.

    Most children eventually outgrow echolalia. But with the national election now set for September, don’t expect our national leaders to provide any such relief: after just eight sitting days this parliamentary year, the phrase had already clocked up 203 mentions.,………………”

    http://powerhouse.theglobalmail.org/#!prettyPhoto

  50. Oh dear, another day of the Abbott mob banging on in Question Time about the shortcomings of the government’s mining tax. Let’s ignore them, shall we?

    Yes, the tax has come up way short of raising the projected revenue from Big Mining, as we have previously recorded. But it has still returned $126 million to the people of Australia, which is $126 million more than they would have got if the Opposition was running things, because they hate the whole idea of taxing miners’ super profits, and would abolish the tax in government.

    So they have zero credibility as critics.

    Let’s go instead to another tax the Abbott lot oppose — the carbon tax. And let’s go there via America, where one politician most Australians respect, President Obama, has lately given his fifth state of the Union address.

    Guess what was one of the major themes of the speech? The need for America to adopt a carbon tax – more properly called a carbon trading scheme – to meet the global threat of climate change. Read more …

    http://powerhouse.theglobalmail.org/#!prettyPhoto

  51. Great comments….

    ‘The World’s Greatest Treasurer’ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, together with ‘The World’s Greatest LIAR’ – Exit Stage very far left. Coming to a Cinema near you”

    “Only downside! At some point, certain people in the know in Labor, legal and union circles are going to figure out that there’s only downside…and cut a deal with the law while they still can. Just remember guys, there are only a very limited number of seats in the lifeboat. And it’s too late to dash from the bridge or the staterooms once you hear they’ve started to fill up.”

    “”Failure is not an option”…She never finished that sentence, she meant to add “it is the only outcome the ALP can guarantee”

  52. @treetroll

    This is relevant!

    After all, who better to know what the ALP is up to, than a member of the opposition?

    Only a clueless and gullible fool would take such claims at face value, in the face of Rudd’s dismissal of any prospective challenge.

  53. “Let’s go instead to another tax the Abbott lot oppose — the carbon tax. And let’s go there via America, where one politician most Australians respect, President Obama….”

    What planet are you on? Has there ever been a poll on the politician most Australians respect?

  54. Would you like WorkChoices with that? Tony Abbott Supersizing exploitation

    John Howard’s failed WorkChoices plan was just the warm up. Tony Abbott’s WorkChoices (inspired by Gina ‘Less Than $2 A Day’ Rinehart) will turn Australia into a Medieval Fiefdom controlled by a handful of billionaires and their marionettes in parliament doing their bidding.

    http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/would-you-like-workchoices-with-that-supersizing-exploitation/

  55. pterosaur1
    “A last trick is to become personal, insulting, rude, as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand, and that you are going to come off worst…. But in becoming personal you leave the subject altogether, and turn your attack to his person, by remarks of an offensive and spiteful character. It is an appeal from the virtues of the intellect to the virtues of the body, or to mere animalism.”

    http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/controversy/chapter3.html

  56. Treasurership Down
    http://philippamartyr.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/swannie-how-i-love-ya-how-i-love-ya.html
    “King Canute is standing there in his best raincoat and wellingtons, waiting for the rivers of gold to come pouring down the dry creek bed, and all that comes round the corner is a rusty tin can, rolling slightly in the breeze.

    Meanwhile over at Tim Blair’s blog, correspondent The Old and Unimproved Dave has suggested that Wayne Swan’s Treasurership is going to end in a massive chase scene like The Benny Hill Show.

    I can never resist an old TV rerun reference, so picture if you will a frantic Swan chasing a group of mining magnates through a park at high speed, tearing off their clothes and trying to empty their pockets at the same time.

    Cue that unmistakeable music …”

  57. Bruce Haigh, Canberra Times, 23 October 2012:

    …Chances are that Abbott has also changed very little. Anger is a byproduct of his ”whatever it takes” ambition. Wed this to his conservative Christian beliefs and he becomes a crusader, using religion as a shield from criticism. He is not trusted or liked, particularly by women, but also by a lot of men, who distrust his superficiality.

    […]

    When cornered, Abbott has played fast and loose with the truth; he shoots from the hip; his retractions on the morrow have something of Richard Nixon about them and are an insight into the frailty of his capacity to lead within a democratic framework.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/politics/a-thirst-for-power-lies-at-the-heart-of-abbotts-agenda-20121022-2818x.html#ixzz2A5DqAqWo

  58. Fear and loathing in Canberra

    The Opposition, oligarchs and a compliant media are desperate to bring this minority government to an end quickly, writes Graham Jackson, before the reforms of the last few years are cemented.

    […]

    The corporatocracy, the oligarchy – call it what you will – and the Coalition acting as its political arm, are just as fearful of a democratic Australia as a democratic Australia is fearful of a fascist corporate agenda. I believe the remarkable corporate media over-reaction to the events of the past few days should be seen in this light.

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/fear-and-loathing-in-canberra/

  59. Tree, so what?

    Still a long time to Sept 14. Much can change over night. Cannot say that Abbott has had a wonderful week. But that is something that you would be unable to see,

    Yes, the deficit might be a little higher as predicted, so what.

    Yes, Rudd seems to be enjoying the attention he is getting from Bishop and co.

  60. Green bubble bursting…”Foreign investors in renewable energy projects in Spain have hired lawyers to prepare potential international legal action against the Spanish government over new rules they say break their contracts.
    It is unclear how much claims might be worth, but international funds have more than 13 billion euros ($17 billion) of renewable energy assets in Spain and say that the government has reneged on the terms of their investment.
    The Spanish Parliament approved a law on Thursday that cuts subsidies for alternative energy technologies, backtracking on its push for green power.”

    http://planetark.org/wen/67930

    Green fatcats want to grind the faces of the Spanish poor

    “The problem was that the cost of the subsidies were not passed on fully to consumers because that would have pushed prices to unprecedented highs.

    Imagine that – solar and wind subsidies push up electricity prices to unaffordable levels:

    http://boy-on-a-bike.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/green-fatcats-want-to-grind-faces-of.html

  61. tree, I am afraid I have to agree with you on one thing, truth is no longer relevant. If it was, the PM would be far out in front.

    Maybe that disconnect between perception and reality might wake some people up, as the election approaches. When once again they begin taking an interest in politics, in order to cast an informed vote.

    By the way, tree, revenues always picks up in the second half of a financial year. Yes, from now on, things should get better.

    Change is already apparent in many years. The world situation seems to be improving. Compay profits not bad.

    Yes, tree, for one who loves to gloat, enjoy it while you can.

    Yes, one big problem, its that stubborn dollar.

    Actually spending is actually tracking a billion dollars below what was predicted.

    Yes, tree, it is not all gloom and doom. That must worry you.

  62. Cu, plus people will start to look at how policies will effect them personally. At present we have “a game” called let’s ridicule Julia Gillard but that one is fairly stale (although of course it’s bound to gain momentum via the troll types), but I believe that at bare minimum self interest will cause people to start scrutinising opposition policies.

  63. Yes, tree has cherry picked a couple of what he sees as negatives, from a mountain of positives. For each of his negatives, one could show many more positives. We could go no all day with his game, but at the end, it would prove nothing,

    As I said, he may as well gloat while he has the opportunity.

    What the PM has done, is force Abbott out from under that rock he has been hiding on. Yesterday, he was forced to begin saying what he has to cut.

    Many are going to be surprised to find out for the first time, what they have gained from labor over the last two governments, and what they have to lose.

    Yes, Abbott, keep going. The more they hear from these people, the more they will run.

    Yes, I believe if is still the hip pocket that counts.

  64. Let’s go instead to another tax the Abbott lot oppose — the carbon tax. And let’s go there via America, where one politician most Australians respect, President Obama, has lately given his fifth state of the Union address.

    Guess what was one of the major themes of the speech? The need for America to adopt a carbon tax – more properly called a carbon trading scheme – to meet the global threat of climate change. Read more …

    http://powerhouse.theglobalmail.org/#!prettyPhoto

  65. tree, what is said about Howard is not irrelevant, as yesterday, Abbott promise to take us back to those golden days.

    Yes, it was Mr. Abbott that made the discussion about Howard record relevant.

    “..Abbott’s sums work only if he plans deep cuts, as yet unrevealed. He is unlikely to cut personal transfer payments: if anything he seems committed to restoring Howard’s spending on middle class welfare. The only welfare cut he has promised is the “school kids’ bonus” — giving a hint of his priorities. The cuts would surely come in education and health.

    As an experienced journalist Abbott is skilled in avoiding scrutiny, but he is slowly revealing himself as a conservative such as Australia has not seen since the days of the Lyons government. His conservatism extends even to opposition to technical progress. The National Broadband Network and carbon pricing would transform Australian industry — that’s their purpose.

    They are disruptive technologies which upset current power structures and social orders — Abbott can see the risks. It’s politically much easier to deal with the “old boy” network lobbying to preserve existing firms and industries than to deal with entrepreneurs in a dynamic economy.

    Similarly his stance on productivity is in the traditional language of cost reduction, particularly labour costs. This is not the language of entrepreneurs, who voice their concern with productivity in terms of the need for better management, recognition of skills, more use of people’s capabilities, and the support of strong public investment in education. Rather it is the language of one who fears change and instills that fear in others..”

    http://newmatilda.com/2013/02/04/abbotts-figures-dont-add

  66. The sad thing is CU. he’s just gone to less than reputable sites to get his rubbish to repost here. If I wanted to read Michael Smith’s crap, I’d go to his site directly.

    As usual, the trollman offers very little to this site. 🙄

    For example, “Twice as many people prefer Abbott to gillard as PM!” Everyone here (except perhaps the trollman) has enough nous to know that a self-selecting online poll is next to useless. Even Fairfax have the good grace to acknowledge this:

    Disclaimer:These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.

    I thought he was in moderation to reduce this sort of crap posting Migs?

  67. We need to remember that while Costello was having all those surpluses, interest rates rose how many times in a row,

  68. tree seems to believe he has the upper hand. How great is his ability at self deception. Now I do not mean that as an insult but a preception I have gained from his writings.

    I must admit I am in danger of misunderstanding what he is now saying as I glance quickly through all of his comments. I find it too tedious to read them closely.

    I do not believe I am missing much, he is inclined to repeat what he says many times.

  69. Well, when one transfer costs to the private person with the user pay policy of the time, something has to give, Resulting increased private debt,

    By the way,the deficit maybe 10 billion. A long way dow on the forty odd of last year.

    Yes, still trending towards a surplus. A surplus, all the experts said that Labor was trying to bring in three years ahead of time.

    Not so terrifying, when put into context.

  70. …………………………Public Service Minister Gary Gray said that Mr Abbott was incorrectly claiming that the Australian Public Service had grown by 20,000 places. In fact, the Australian Public Service has grown by around 13,000 places from June 2007 to June 2012, he said in a statement.
    “The opposition’s simplistic approach to the delivery of public services, from slashing jobs and services, to the ‘thought bubble’ of arbitrarily relocating substantial parts of the Australian Public Service all over the place is bad policy with dire consequences,” Mr Gray said.
    Mr Abbott’s figure is based on the budget papers, which state the Australian government sector has grown from 238,623 in 2006-07 to 258, 563 in 2012-13. These figures include Defence Force personnel, reservists and the Australian Federal Police.
    According to Mr Gray, the Australian Public Service has grown from 155,424 in June 2007 to 168,580 in June 2012……………………..

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-flags-10bn-in-savings-through-job-program-cuts-20130215-2egxu.html#ixzz2L1iubY8c

  71. ‘As usual, the trollman offers very little to this site.’

    I disagree, they are informative, readable and usually accompanied with interesting links.

  72. That figure is to June 2012. Would not be surprised if the figure was now lower. Maybe Migs has a view on the numbers.

    Migs, are there any low hanging fruit left to pick. Will it be easy to cut the PS further.

    I believe that Abbott will achieve his target, only by one way, that is by cutting or abandoning services.

    He will target services that serve the bottom income earners, not those at the top.

    He sees good governance only in one way, that of cutting taxes.

    That is terrifying, in a country, that is among the lowest taxed across the western world.

    One needs to identify what the essentials are, then set out to find ways to fund them.

    This is the only way, one can ensure future growth and prosperity It is not about we cannot afford it, that comes out of the mouth of Abbott,

    It is about what we have to spend, that we cannot afford not to.

    Like fixing the hole in that leaking roof. We have to find the money, as leaving it, will lead to the roof collapsing.

  73. PS cuts: Abbott under attack

    Can the right wingers tell me how this government can both increase the size of the public service according to Abbott but be secretly slashing then according to ACT Liberal Senator Gary Humphries?

    Another case of one hand of the the Liberal party not knowing what the other is doing, which is a sign of their total incompetence.

    Note how Humphries states that a Coalition government will protect Canberra from cost cutting.

    So just where is Abbott going to cut as he’s promised?

    Just how much utter shit can this Liberal party under Abbott crap out. Unlimited amounts it seems.

  74. Well, I believe all of the GEFC is going.

    Now I believe that over 60% still believe something has to be done about man made climate change. Abbott is going to abandon all that the PM has put in place.

    Now. Mr. Abbott’s Direct Action promises many of the same things being done. Yes, assistance to cut carbon emissions. The difference in how it is going to be funded.

    Therefore, I failed to see, why Mr.Abbott will be closing these down on day one, only, if he keeps his Direct Action Policy, to re-introduce similar departments.

    Does one feel their is a great disconnect between what Abbott says he is going to dismantle and what he is promising.

    Am I the only one having problems, comprehending what Mr. Abbott is saying each day. I say each day, as he can change the mewssage in one day. Very rarely last 24 hours.

    Well he did say those hundred dams, including some in Tasmania, costing the government no money.

    Yes, he can raise the Warragambe wall. Problem it will flood a great part of the Blue Mountains National Park, Not sure what harm it would cause to the substantial tourist industry.

  75. By the way, one of the GEFC has already assisted two meat processors to cut their costs by 60% and 35%. What is more exciting, the companies will only take three years to recoup their outlays. Now please explain where this does not tie into increased productivity and growth. Two things that Abbott is promising.

  76. May be tree, with his superior intellect and knowledge can point us to where the waste is that Mr. Abbott wants to cut?

    We all know, the reply will be school halls and pink Batts.

    Does not really answer the question, as that is in the distant past, under a different government, and no longer has money being spent in the area. All stimulation programs had end dates built into them,

    I noticed that tree did not mention the interview with Emmerson this morning.

  77. Should add the Morrison’s interview, complaining about the million dollar blow out in caring for asylums seekers. Forgot to add, that scheme now in place, is the Pacific Solution, sadly much harsher that the one Howard put in place.

  78. ‘……………’The Labor Party and the Greens form the government that has been slashing APS jobs under the cloak of darkness.
    ”At Thursday night’s Senate estimates hearings we heard of even more job cuts that are due to hit the APS in a couple of weeks’ time.
    ”As a member of the Coalition frontbench I’ll be continuing to work with Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey to ensure the policies of an incoming Coalition government will get the costs of government down but will make sure Canberra’s interests are not lost in this process.”……………………………

    Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/ps-cuts-abbott-under-attack-20130215-2ej2e.html#ixzz2L1ylRKgF

    I have concerns that Labor is still in the process of fiscal consolidation, but Abbott is plain wrong, wheh he says he can cut more, without sending the economy into downfall.

  79. For example, “Twice as many people prefer Abbott to gillard as PM!” Everyone here (except perhaps the trollman) has enough nous to know that a self-selecting online poll is next to useless. Even Fairfax have the good grace to acknowledge this:

    <Disclaimer:These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.

    …. and it’s not like the Lying Lieberals don’t astroturf online polls… no, no, of course not.

  80. What type of PM would Abbott be.

    Bruce Haigh is a political commentator and retired diplomat.

    …………………………..Marr provides some revealing and brilliant insights into Abbott. One of them is his reverence for Churchill as a wartime leader. Abbott has quoted from Churchill in this role throughout his public life. Is Abbott at war? Everything about his performance and demeanour conveys an impression he is geared for it. That he wants it. That he needs it. Who is he at war with? Howard’s old adversary, asylum seekers; women? Who else will Abbott go to war against? Who among us will be declared unworthy to be Australian citizens? Of course, he has the War on Terror and perhaps the Future War against China. How close will he get to the US to shore up his political power? How will his ”them and us” play out? Greater power to ASIO and the AFP? To what extent will he divide Australian society? Divide and rule – by decree?
    Abbott is a strange and complex individual; all of these complexities are contained in a person who has had very little life experience. Gaining a Rhodes scholarship did not grant that. He appears to have little or no understanding of the world beyond our shores. Asia, Africa and the Middle East are a blank to him, and to date an irrelevance in his single-minded, church-inspired quest for power. What does he want it for and what will he do with it?

    Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/politics/a-thirst-for-power-lies-at-the-heart-of-abbotts-agenda-20121022-2818x.html#ixzz2L288AQN5

    Who will Abbott go to war against. Well it will not be the upper income earners and the rich and powerful, that is for sure.

  81. Where is tree?

    Two possibilities CU
    – In moderation or more likely
    – Working or otherwise engaged.
    🙂

  82. ….a person who has had very little life experience. Gaining a Rhodes scholarship did not grant that. He appears to have little or no understanding of the world beyond our shores. Asia, Africa and the Middle East are a blank to him

    I think that’s one (just one) of the reasons the media are trying so hard to get this boofhead into the top job. He’d make such a fool of himself that there would be a endless flow of stories to write about his gaffes/brainfarts. The Liberal trolls would be in permanent defensive mode spinning excuses for him.

    As entertaining as some of that would be, it’s an indictment on the standards of the party that would put such a goose up as “leader”.

    https://p.twimg.com/Am4DLKICAAANKBa.jpg:large

  83. Catching up
    FEBRUARY 16, 2013 @ 12:08 PM
    “tree, I am afraid I have to agree with you on one thing, truth is no longer relevant. If it was, the PM would be far out in front”

    That sentence makes you eligible for denialist of the year! Careful now CU, you don’t want to take that gong off gillard, surely?

    Who cares about Emerson when his old gal is making such a botch of things…

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/kevin-rudd-cancels-plans-to-crash-prime-minister-julia-gillards-party-in-adelaide/story-e6frea83-1226579550380

    It seems that most women reject gillard

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/galaxy-poll-shows-female-voters-choose-tony-abbott/story-e6frea6u-1226579510972

  84. Treeman, ah well they’ll soon find out if Tony Abbott ever becomes Prime Minister and immediately brings in *his dream* of 2-tier divorce, anti-choice legislation aimed especially at younger women and a whole host of anti-female legislation (wealthy married women of course excluded).

  85. “2-tier divorce, anti-choice legislation aimed especially at younger women and a whole host of anti-female legislation (wealthy married women of course excluded).

    Now that is projection in spades!

  86. “Labor supporters are rightly dismayed by the fortunes of the federal government.
    The support base is rippling with white-hot anger at journalists for focusing on inane elements of what increasingly appears to be a leadership struggle of mutually assured destruction between the Prime Minister and her predecessor.
    But hard-headed government supporters are also willing to apportion some responsibility to the Labor MPs who, fearing a lemming-like conga line over the electoral abyss on September 14, are venting more openly than ever about the bastardry of Labor dissidence, about Rudd’s alleged treachery, about Gillard’s manifold tactical mistakes and about what they now see as Wayne Swan’s incompetence and lacklustre salesmanship. Helpful. Not.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/labor-pains-up-pops-rudd-20130216-2ejmt.html#ixzz2L70gjAU8

  87. Min, Abbott would not dare bring any of things in, he would be eaten alive!

    I wouldn’t be so sure. He would most of all fear the ire of his ‘real bosses’ if he doesn’t do as they want. They could flick him in five minutes if he doesn’t do as expected.

  88. There are no bosses as the influence are the grass roots supporters, the same that dispatched Turnbull.

    As I recall the Turnbull knifing, it was the culmination of a campaign of mass emailings and phone calls to Liberal MPs across various seats telling them they wanted no deal done with the government on emissions trading. Which precipitated the dramatic events of the shadow cabinet rebelling against their leader, and Abbott knifing him.

    The campaign to bombard Liberal MPs with emails and phone calls; It had all the hallmarks of being orchestrated. Who or what was behind that? Follow the links (follow the money) far enough up, and I suggest you ultimately identify Abbott’s ‘real bosses’. Why does he say he’ll abolish the mining tax, and tamper with the racial vilification act? Who’s telling him to do that? Not “grassroots” Australians!

  89. That campaign was not orchestrated by anyone in particular and there was no money behind it. It was a coming together of the sceptics who are now organised. Know a lot of them and they are neither rich or powerful.

    The coalition was and remains against the mining tax. No one is instructing them on that issue. Can’t really comment on 18C of the anti vilification act as not interested but to say the IPA is actively lobbying for its abolition and as a premier member I’m contributing.

    I know what you are intimating, no influence from ANDEV apart from the northern development, water and other infrastructure policies that have been selectively leaked over the last few weeks.

  90. Scaper,

    Abbott and the Liberals are the political puppets of some of the wealthiest, most powerful forces on the planet. Doing the bidding of the grassrots? come off it! The Abbott Liberals are not champions of the Underdog, they’re champions of the OVERDOGS!

  91. I disagree with that as I have seen no evidence. One would be delusional if one thought that politicians from any side are champions. Met more than enough to form the opinion it is all about them.

  92. I didn’t use the word champions, in the sense of their being good guys or excellers. (They are not). It’s the verb: they champion the causes of the ultra-wealthy and extremely powerful. Those who benefit from fostering climate change denial, for example, and repeal of resource taxes, cigarette plain wrapping and so on. To see who pulls the Abbott-Liberal strings, follow the money – it is not “everyday” Australians, that is for certain! Kiss-up, kick-down, remember.

  93. I see control of his public demeanor but no string pulling at all. Anyway, I don’t care much for either side, they are just not worth it.

    A beautiful day in Perth. Going to head down to The Sovereign Arms for a feed and make some new friends. The people here are very friendly.

  94. Cuppa, you have Catching up to thank for that one. 🙂 Just for our new people, Cu is our invaluable right hand girl and a very experienced moderator of blogs.

  95. Scaper, I think that “going into bat for” would be a suitable equivalent of the descriptor of “champion”, as in champions the cause thereof.. I am yet to see T.Abbott talking sternly about how wrong (for example) Gina is for wanting to reintroduce 457 Visas minus having to advertise jobs in Australia.

  96. scaper, I thought you would have had an invite to that Liberal do, that Abbott is addressing.

    And wasn’t it a childish taunting of a bully that Abbott engaged in.

    Yep he’s become more positive, more positively abhorrent.

  97. People if you can get a look at Landline online or the repeat during the week please check out the piece on algae.

    A Bligh supported technology that no Liberal, and especially Newman, would ever have a bar of, but I bet now it’s on the cusp of success Newman and Abbott will be front and centre taking the kudos, just like O’Farrell did recently on a previous Labor government program he canned when in opposition.

  98. Mobius, I’ve had a look and can’t find it..yes I know, hopeless. It’s of particular interest to me as I’m assuming that it is something to do with daughter Erin’s research at UQ.

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