Election Talk

I don’t have the impression that any contributor here is undecided as to who they will be voting for in the September election. Perhaps one or two among us might be swinging voters, and I’m about to find out. So I ask:

  1. Do you know at this stage which party you will vote for in the House of Representatives and/or the Senate?
  2. What is likely to change your mind (if it were possible)?
  3. What are the issues that are important to you and why are they worth your vote?

Over to you.

English: Ballot Box showing preferential voting

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154 comments on “Election Talk

  1. I’m voting Labor, with the Greens in the Senate.

    The economy is ticking along quite nicely and I want to see climate change looked at. I also want to stay in the 21st century.

    I don’t like the prospect of an Abbott Government.

  2. Me too Migs, the thought ofl the LOTO and his band of inconsequentials is just too much to bare.
    What I like to see is the Asylum Seeker policy being able to be implemented properly. It wouldn’t frighten me one bit if there happened to be another minority government either, so long as it stays in the hands of the ALP and some great independents like the ones we have now.
    The PM looks like she has listened to what the people have been asking for and is leading from the front foot. I think that she has the ticker to win this election. What do others think?

  3. I will be voting Labor in the House of Reps if a candidate is found for this electorate in country NSW. Not an easy task as it is hard yacker against the Nationals.
    I want to see real action on education so that public education gets a fair go and that will never happen under a conservative government. I lean towards the Greens in the Senate although some of their calls in 2012 have concerned me. Despite the spin of the opposition and their media mates this government has done some great things.

  4. Just watched the Drum with Mathias Kormann as a guest, It certainly reinforces the thought that the idea of those Liars and clowns running the country scares the s*it out of me.

  5. Kevin Rennie, if you are a genuine fence sitter, please do your homework and not rely on soundbites and outright lies!

  6. I’m voting for Mathias Cormann. He knows how to create a ‘parallel’ universe, free from any ‘reality’. Just like the Monk. And besides he’s a real Catholic.

  7. I will be voting ALP, but I might consider Slipper if he stands as an independent candidate to further split the LNP vote if Brough is not in gaol by September 👿

    LNP definitely last, but in Fisher, the ALP are a long shot to say the least! 😦

  8. Rusted-on Labor here. The return of a Labor Government with more comfortable numbers may well see gay marriage and moves towards a more humane asylum seeker policy.

  9. Rusted on labor here, expecting Julia PM with a reps majority of 5/6 seats. Do not expect change in Senate numbers, hope Wilkie is replaced by labor, he has been a disappointment to me. Also hope Oaks and Windsor get up with heaps of Labor preferences. Like to see Libs loose Senate in the ACT, end of wish list for today night all

  10. Labor in the lower house. As I am on the Central Coast, I expect to be over run with Liberals.

    Not too sure in the senate. Likely to be Labor as well.

    Education and training.

    Col is right. There are two interviews one should listen too . Mathias Cormann and Christopher Pyne. Will definitely help one make up their minds.

    Little chance of a change of mind.

  11. ‘ …and I want to see climate change looked at,’ said Miglo.

    Before I cast my vote one way or another, CC needs to be looked at scientifically and realistically.

  12. Voting Independent with the Greens in the senate.

    After the fires and floods the biggest issue for me is the continual sell off of essential assets to parasitic blood sucking bastard CEOs for the rich to makle even more money off the majority. Both the ALP and the LNP are at fault and disgust me with the capitulation to big business claims they can run things better and save customers costs.

    I am currently fighting my insurance company which is another industry that has become greedy and blood sucking since the sale of government owned insurance companies. Honestly I am fed up with the privatisation rhetoric as it destroys the majority of our citizens ability to have a good life.

    Well I left NSW and fires only to return home for the floods. Lost power on Saturday night and only just back on yesterday afternoon. Also the telstra sysytem failed as well. So no Power, No Phone, No Internet for 4 days. All food rotten. Flooded in for 2 of those days. Was drowning in sweat day and night. After my heart attack in February 2012 I presumed 2013 would be a good year. So far not up to it.

  13. Sorry to hear this Shane, you’re definitely in the wars. Courage in the face of adversity should see you through.


  14. Do you know at this stage which party you will vote for in the House of Representatives and/or the Senate?

    hmm, let me think about that for a minute 😉


    What is likely to change your mind (if it were possible)?

    An alien abduction of the opposition, replacing them with an actual political party


    What are the issues that are important to you and why are they worth your vote?

    Fair Work, Carbon Price, NBN, NDIS, keeping a strong economy (with the Worlds Greatest Treasurer), These are examples of policies which are aimed at helping the population through tough times, along with other factors such as the GFC, and floods (which the opposition argued against defending from)

  15. Labor in the House of Reps and Greens in the Senate my reasoning being that although I do not agree with a number of things which the current Labor government has done in recent times (with asylum seekers being sent to Nauru as a standout), there is little in the current LNP’s rhetoric or people which gives me any confidence that they will ever do what is right for the average person in this country.

    In fact, on thinking about it..it’s the LNP people, the vast majority being Howard’s B Team…their past attitudes and performances.

  16. I’m sorry to learn that, Shane. For me it was 2012. I hope that you have got the worst over and done with, and can now look forward to improvements in the future. As my Dad would say after his umpteenth near-death op, Well I’m still alive and kicking.

  17. ‘ …and I want to see climate change looked at,’ said Miglo.

    So Flannery, Karoly, Gergis et al; Rudd, Wong, Combet et al and the cafe of no consequence have been ignoring the “greatest moral challenge of our time” all these years?

  18. Treeman, clearly a lot more needs to be done to address the issue of climate change. While Australia has gone backwards in addressing important issues such renewable energies, China is now leading the world obviously with the intent of making herself self-sufficient. Either we keep up with the times or we will rapidly head back to the days of being a 2nd class economy.

  19. Shane, sorry to read about your personal situation.

    Flew to Mackay and back yesterday and the volume of water flowing into sea was astounding, particularly around Bundy.

    Friends here, no power four days, big tree took out HV lines in their neighbourhood.

  20. Treeman

    Why do you keep coming bacl time and time agan if you think the cafe is of no consequence. That maens your comments are also of no consequence.

    Your 3 point dot answer shows you to be just as rusted on as the left on here, especially given that nothing will change your mind.

    Reminds me of my late father. He would have voted for the LNP if they had ripped his heart, lungs and throat out. Blind ideology of either side is foreign to me.

  21. Labor as if you couldn’t guess.
    And I am lucky with a great HoR and Senate ticket.

    Captain 51, good to see you voting for Oakshott.
    I was listening to radio national, fran kelly, interview with Albo. he tried to say that it would be good to have Abbott under better scrutiny. As an example he said that the Abbott stunt, driving down the Pacific Hwy, saying he would duplicate it, was a point where the press had not done its job. It was left to a local liberal/national member to clarify that the by-pass for Coffs Harbour was not part of the duplication. Even that example was of no interest to Fran Kelly, she dismissed Albanese, Kelly is comfortable with Abbott stunts and no policy.
    Actually Kelly just likes the drama, as if a date for an election has any drama, what nonsense.

  22. Hold in there shane and I hope 2013 turns out better.

    Remember not only have the big two capitulated to big business, with the Liberals being their mindless propaganda front, the State Liberals have cut emergency and fire fighting services necessitating the Federal government sending in additional military to cover the shortfalls.

    But who is front and centre going on about the military assistance as though it was their doing getting them there, the Liberal State Premiers.

    During this election Abbott should be asked about the Liberal States cutting essential and emergency services and if he will do the same with Federal resources in his promised slash and burn. He certainly wasn’t asked during his stunts in emergency areas.

    I’ve also asked the question on Abbott’s twitter page that now an election date has been called and he went into campaign mode before that, is the Liberal Party going to pay for his party political stunts all over the country or is the tax payer still unfairly going to foot the bill, especially since his office has been the most expensive to run in our history. I got no response of course.

  23. Min
    JANUARY 31, 2013 @ 8:36 AM
    “Treeman, clearly a lot more needs to be done to address the issue of climate change. While Australia has gone backwards in addressing important issues such renewable energies, China is now leading the world obviously with the intent of making herself self-sufficient. Either we keep up with the times or we will rapidly head back to the days of being a 2nd class economy”

    What planet are you on? Been to China and seen it have you?

    Yesterday there were 20 or more coal tankers lined up around Mackay, delayed I’m guessing by weather, destination most likely China. Climate Change is overhyped and over politicised. We’ve had five years of overly generous solar subsidies and now there are too many panels on roofs in may locations and the price of electricity has skyrocketed as a direct result of feed in tariff’s, some at five times the wholesale price.

    Wheel2Wheel is running on SBS. The first two episodes covered Clean Air Network in Hong Kong and GECKO in China. Clean Air Network works at grassroots level to reduce air pollution from the worst offenders, old buses and boats, using diesel and bunker fuel. visit to GECKO showed just how heavily polluted is China and no mention whatsoever about CO2 or climate change.

    The first episodes are still available at SBS on line…http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/14342723950/Wheel2wheel-S1-Ep1

  24. better luck for you shaneinqld

    unfortunately what i read on twitter this morning is not promising. reports are that ergon energy in maryborough, in the middle of the cleanup, have called a meeting to discuss redundancies for 50 workers. if true makes you think they will use the army to do the work that should be carried out by the state. one way to shift costs. poor workers of maryborough a kick in the guts.

  25. ME

    Thanks and I agree the slashing of services by the LNP premiers has been nothing short of arrogance and shortsightedness. It seems Campbell Newman expects volunteers to do everything. Well how about he volunteer to be Premier and take no money. Bet that wont happen. These type of disasters will become more frequent and their answer is to slash and burn the services. I think they also forget that those on the frontline require logictics assistance from behind the scenes. You know the so called desk bludgers public service that co ordinate the momentum, source resources, organise accommodation, food, payments etc etc. Funny thing is Campbell and his enterage and publicity machine have seen no loss of numbers or money. Hypocrisy.

  26. “unfortunately what i read on twitter this morning is not promising. reports are that ergon energy in maryborough, in the middle of the cleanup, have called a meeting to discuss redundancies for 50 workers. if true makes you think they will use the army to do the work that should be carried out by the state. one way to shift costs. poor workers of maryborough a kick in the guts.”

    Forget tweetie, the past week has seen a big picture co-ordinated approach to rescue and repair by the bloke who staged managed the cleanup in Brisbane 2011.

    BTW, the Fraser Coast redundancies have been mooted since last September and have nothing to do with your cynical suggestion!

  27. Funny thing is only a few weeks ago Campbell Newman and co told people they can use as much water as they want becuase the dams are full. A bit silly really as it will only result in the dams falling to drought levels faster when there is no rain.

    Then this week, as a result of a treatment plant failure they went back on air asking people to use as little as possible as the sysytem could collapse in areas.

    Interesting thing is that during the period of requested minimal usage, the water usage rose dramatically and was far in excess of that being used the week before. Was this a behind the scenes protest vote at the stupidity of this government ?.

  28. “You know the so called desk bludgers public service that co ordinate the momentum, source resources, organise accommodation, food, payments etc etc.”

    C’mon Shane, we both know that is guilding the lily. Bligh kept the unemployment numbers down by packing out the PS and PC or not there are still too many chair warmers.

  29. “Was this a behind the scenes protest vote at the stupidity of this government ?”

    Not at all it was people cleaning up and please note, the warning to reduce usage came just 48 hours ago and cleanups have been underway for a week!

  30. Sue

    Thanks for your comments.

    In relation to Ergon and redundancies, the question was asked of Energex do they have as many staff as they had 12 months ago to be able to deal with the repairs and reconnection.

    This was his response. ” We have more crews than we had 12 months ago”

    Now this is political speak. You could have 100 crews with a crew being 6 staff and you have 600 staff. You could then change this to 150 crews with the crew being 3 staff and you have shed 150 jobs while increasing the so called crews doing the job. He did not answer how many staff. Disgusting word talk from this government.

    Smoke and mirrors from Treemans hero Campbell Newman who does not have a big picture, but rather a small pictire rush to plug holes when things turn for the worse after his slash and burn. Campbell Newman was not going to leave the BCC either, yet he left and went to State Politics as soon as it suited him after assurances ot the BCC rate payers he was there for the long hual. Lies and Deception and excuses for pathetic ideological destruction. Where was Tony Abbott to inspect and make sure Campbell was doing his job like he said with Julia and Anna. Partisan politics. Disgusting.

  31. Was this a behind the scenes protest vote at the stupidity of this government ?.

    I think it is probably more a reflection of the stupidity of people.

    I would say a lot were hosing mud off their houses or belongings.

  32. The warning to reduce water came more than 48 hours ago and during the rain so how could the watew be being used for cleanup. The rain was pelting down in the brisbane area.

  33. Shane, you wrote:
    “The warning to reduce water came more than 48 hours ago and during the rain so how could the watew be being used for cleanup. The rain was pelting down in the brisbane area”

    The rain stopped Monday morning. The warning to reduce water usage came on Tuesday afternoon. I was outside pressure cleaning on Saturday and Sunday after falls of 50 and 70MM respectively and spent much of Monday cleaning up as well.

    Don’t let your ideology get in the way of the truth!

  34. “I think it is probably more a reflection of the stupidity of people.

    I would say a lot were hosing mud off their houses or belongings”

    After we’d just been told that water restrictions were over. Please allow that fine nozzles and gerni’s exist and that **Edited due to personal commentary (Min)

  35. Meanwhile in China

    Cities ‘gravely polluted’ as haze covers regions

    “Beijing has seen its air quality worsen since Monday, with a significant thickening of the PM 2.5, or airborne particles measuring less than 2.5 micrometers in diameter. At 10 a.m. Tuesday, the average concentration of PM 2.5 was tested at 354 micrograms per cubic meter.

    It was the fourth round of heavy smog to hit Beijing in four weeks.

    The meteorological authorities forecast that the haze will thin out by rain and snow that will begin Wednesday night. However, smog will continue to linger in central and eastern regions of the country on Tuesday afternoon through Wednesday daytime.

    Earlier this month, several consecutive days of smoggy weather choked Beijing and other cities in north and east China, as readings for PM 2.5 far exceeded safe levels”

    Note the words airborne particles which are not CO2

    http://www.china.org.cn/environment/2013-01/30/content_27833021.htm

  36. “Been to China, and have I seen it.. No, I haven’t. However, I have knowledge of the renewable energy industry specifically…biofuels from algae..entirely untested in real world experiments do not in any way reduce pollution which is made upfor the most part of airborne particles of dust from concrete, along with sulphur from bunker fuel and old buses.

  37. Treeman, now I definitely know that you do not have any sort of insight into this issue…biofuels from algae just so happens to be the subject of my daughter’s PhD thesis at UQ. It is most definitely “real world” with UQ, UniSA working in conjunction with the Chinese and the Germans.

  38. It appears that the exercise of Tony’s mini campaign and appearance at the NPC is to make him look good. Content does not mattrer. There is a leaked email making the rounds, pointing this out.

    What we have been watching this week, backs that up. Yesterdqy was disgraceful.

    Refusing to being interviewed except for a couple of careful scripted ones on Seven and Ten.

    One should listen to that one of Pynes on the ABC yesterday.

  39. Once all the governments of Australia are Lieberal you will find the GST will go up, never mind Pensioners also there will be a GST on food. Before little Johny Howard promised there will be no GST Pensioners did not pay taxes, only on a few certain items

  40. You know the best thing about calling the election for Sept? It will show TA doing all of his usual stunts and photo ops again and again. Guess what, people are just going to get so sick of him and them. It will be like children who have to continually listen to Mum going on and on about things. They just basically stick their fingers in their ears and ignore.
    Oh yes, the PM really is a very smart lady, far far smarter than TA by far.
    Shane, sorry to hear you had heart problems last year, you beat me by a couple of months. Now I’m waiting on a total hip replacement, if the state gov. here in Vic don’t close any more beds. At least I’m on a 90 day waiting time (I hope!!)
    Got to agree with pretty much all of the comments above. Lets keep up the conversation, its very stimulating.

  41. Tom R @10.04
    I saw that link you mention earlier this morning & it is, as you say, a very accurate protrayal.
    My personal favourite is the Step 5 rant, with the line
    ‘These “numbers” don’t stack up when compared to Cold Hard Opinions!”
    A great deal of the media’s pro Abbott strategy, & its image of itself, is summed up in that.

  42. Part of the leaked email, Abbott to have lots of personal stories to promote him as a good bloke and fair dinkum. Margie had to approve of the personal stories.

    PM talks about future for all Australians, Abbott to talk about his future. If true the measure of the press will be in the questions they ask.

    Big test for Abbott BIGGER test for media.

  43. Crikey Shane. What a rough start to the year you’ve had. 😦

    You must be thinking you’ve done something to upset that big bloke in the sky – for a couple of years now.

    At least you’re a fighter. You’ve got spirit.

    I hope 2013 improves immeasurably for you.

  44. Abbott at press conference: Gillard “fibbed” her way into office.

    Still pushing the same old tired lies, eh Tony?

  45. Shane, if “what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger”, you must be approaching superman status 🙂

    Here’s to a great rest of 2013 for you *CLINK*

  46. School cash flash is to go.NBM to go. Will not diamantle what is built. Will doi it quicker and cheaper. ha ha

  47. Work place. Will deal with the inflexibility in the work place. Attacking rorts. Thought that has alreasy been dealt with by Labor. Silly me.

  48. I’m listenening CU. nothing new so far – oh here we go, pink bats, wasted money etc. Getting a bit shrill there for a minute. Just managed to bring himself back to topic. The election (so Tony says) is not about living in the lodge, oh right?
    I think I need to get a bucket- now he’s telling everyone how good he is. Oh well, that is about as good as it well ever get folks. Just more rhetoric.

  49. A campaign that seems to be aimed at those with low intelligent, one could think he was talking ro three year olds.

    Yes, all about making Tony look good. By the way, that should be called a community based, casual childcare centre.

    If one listens, he has had a go at doing everything.

  50. Abbott: election will be referendum on “carbon tax.”

    He won’t hesitate to call a double dissolution if senate is hostile. That’s old news.

  51. Will keep the present front bench. What after being out of power since 2007, there have been no new MPS on that side with ability to move into the front bench,

    Why is it a priority to be seen as a good bloke.

  52. Will you give a commitment today to stop walking away from questions, especially ones you have called.

    Asked a question on Ashby, Can say with and on my heart…..Has ignored the Rares judgement.

  53. Laura Tingle asks an Ashbygate question!

    Abbott: The Lib front bench had nothing to do with the Ashby matter. It’s about sexual harrassment anyway. Slipper’s involvement raises question about Gillard’s judgment. Blah blah blah.

  54. Good question from Paul Bongiorno about carbon price moving to ETS.

    Abbott: Coalition opposes ETS, even though climate change is real.

    I don’t understand why he opposes ETS. He didn’t explain it very well.

  55. Hard questions are being asked. Brough has done many interviews and will be happy to answer your questions.

  56. Another Ashbygate question from Lenore Taylor, this time about Brough telling Ashby to steal from Slipper’s diary. Abbott won’t answer.

  57. Thomson arrrested by NSW police.

    a’Federal independent MP Craig Thomson has been arrested on the New South Wales central coast.

    His lawyer, Chris McArdle, says he was contacted by Mr Thomson shortly after 1pm (AEDT) today.

    “The police are there arresting him and charging him (with) all charges, such as obtained $300 for himself or something,” Mr McArdle told ABC News Online.

    He says Mr Thomson is due to appear in court next week.

    More to come.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-31/craig-thomson-arrested/4493722

  58. Federal independent MP Craig Thomson has been arrested on the New South Wales Central Coast.

    His lawyer, Chris McArdle, says he was contacted by Mr Thomson shortly after 1:00pm (AEDT) today.

    “The police are there arresting him and charging him [with] all charges, such as obtained $300 for himself or something,” Mr McArdle told ABC News Online.

    “He has to go to the police station where he has to sign a form and then go home again.”

    Mr McArdle says Mr Thomson is due to appear in court next week and his client will plead not guilty.

    “He isn’t guilty, so it’s a pretty good clue that he’s going to plead not guilty.”

    Mr Thomson is already facing civil charges in the Federal Court relating to allegations dating back to his time as head of the Health Services Union.

    He has been accused of spending members’ money on prostitutes and lavish hospitality.

    He denies the allegations.

    Asked whether today’s charges related to his client’s alleged use of escorts, Mr McArdle replied: “Some people should get off and develop their own sex life.”

    “That allegation in the Fair Work matter is $7,000 – false as it is – out of a case that’s $300,000.

    “There’s something very sad about the fourth estate in Australia that they are absolutely beside themselves with fascination about that particular false charge.”

    Topics: federal-parliament, corruption, fraud-and-corporate-crime, nsw, australia

    First posted 15 minutes ago

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-31/craig-thomson-arrested/4493722

  59. It the election is to be on carbon tax, does that mean that clean energy becomes centre stage.

    PS. Thomson arrested on behalf of Victoria police on A fraud charge. 150 charges.

    “There are also those who will say it is merely a ploy from the prime minister to shore up her leadership, but that already appeared assured through to the election.
    Conspiracies and conjecture, but none of it matters. What does is that on September 14 we will go to the polls, in what will be one of the more important elections for the clean energy sector.
    Labor is content with what it has done on climate change and emissions reduction, with the carbon price the centrepiece of a strategy that includes the bipartisan renewable energy target, the $3.2 billion Australian Renewable Energy Agency and the $10 billion Clean Energy Finance Corporation.
    “As we live through climate change, we’ve done, painfully but for the good, the single biggest thing we need to in order to reduce carbon pollution – pricing carbon,” Gillard proclaimed in her speech yesterday.
    If the Coalition gains power it will scrap the CEFC, do its best to get rid of the carbon tax but remains supportive of ARENA although may change its technology priorities.
    Neither side of politics has yet responded to the RET Review but it appears Labor is keen to stick with the current fixed target, as recommended by the Climate Change Authority. The Coalition is committed to the RET, but is yet to make clear its commitment that the gigawatt-hour level of the target will remain unchanged instead of substantially scaled-down to EnergyAustralia’s ‘real 20 per cent’ notion.
    The Coalition has stuck with its controversial direct action plan and promises to mobilise a ‘green army’ if it receives the nod from voters. The problem with the strategy is it’s big on ideology, short on detail. As Tristan Edis said on Tuesday, “more policy detail is the only antidote to scepticism surrounding the Coalition’s commitment to its 2020 emission reduction target.”

    http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/gillard-ready-clean-fight?utm_source=Climate%2BSpectator%2Bdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Climate%2BSpectator%2Bdaily

  60. Yes, you Are quick on the trigger. By the way, he is not a suspender Labor MP.

    He is a sitting member who is suspended from the Labor Party.

    ABC just repeated the error.
    PM to hold a media conference from Queensland.

    I bet Tony rushes back to his office to put on his glasses and reads this one.

  61. I do not think I have way laid the post. Is still connected to any election. Sorry if I have.

    It is pointed out that Tony got plenty of “hers” in.

  62. More on CEF. I wonder what the real support is for the CEF and NBN.

    “Meanwhile, Opposition climate spokesperson Greg Hunt took to Twitter to once again imply the election would be a referendum on carbon pricing: “Finally voters will have their say on the carbon tax and electricity prices on September 14.”
    Abbott also reiterated plans to abolish the carbon tax, while alluding to “positive plans for a cleaner environment with incentives to do the right thing, not penalties.”
    Let’s hope the lead up to the election sees genuine debate on the right policies to reduce carbon emissions, rather than just rhetoric and a fight over the carbon tax. If not, it’s going to be a long eight months.”

    http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/gillard-ready-clean-fight?utm_source=Climate%2BSpectator%2Bdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Climate%2BSpectator%2Bdaily

  63. “For the sake of this thread I don’t give a damn what’s happening in China.”

    Tell that to Min…she brought it up…”China is now leading the world obviously with the intent of making herself self-sufficient.”

  64. Im undecided . Rudds axing still lingers now repeated with ET ( the wonder Nova) in NT.
    The biggest turn offs for Labor are just surfacing and the lack of any urgency.
    -Craig Thomson formally arrested on 150 charges. Its taken a while!
    -ICAC ( NSW Commission into Corruption for those unfamiliar with the title)
    just getting interesting with the Obeid family , McDonald and other Labor mates
    seemingly involved in huge corruption deals together. Its a sickening read . One
    jouno refered to it as the worst corruption since the ‘Rum Rebellion’
    Ms Dullard announces an Election and the day after gets hammered. This has been
    a real common thread of her Government. Give them all blanks Julia because
    they just keep on shooting each other! Rudd is armed with a chainsaw Im told.

  65. HSU on ABC 24. The PM will be on shortly. It will be interesting how she answers the questions.

    Just reminder, being arrested is not being convicted. Ir is also now sub judicial.

  66. Hey Tom R
    ‘surely if Mr Craig Thomson is charged with 150 offences some will turn
    into convictions’ Even the Police and Prosectutors are not that stupid.
    They are after all Public Servants but not Politicians!

  67. Listening to the interview with the solicitor, shows the matter in another light. What is of concern, he will be going to victoria on the 5th. Second day of the return to parliament. I assume that Mr. Abbott will not be allowing pairs.

  68. There’s probably no reason for a pair CU. Craig Thomson is sitting as an independent, not as a government member…

  69. Could be right Bacchus. Was not thinking. Will mean they will be a vote down.

    What has been said seems a little confusing. Has he appeared in court, or is it just an agreement with the police.

    I would not read to much into the large number. What is of more interest, is tomorrow’s case. If successful, could lead to the matter being thrown out.,

    It is a long way from over. If guilty, then let justice proceed.

    I would not bet my house on it, if I was some of our visitors.

    Yes, from that person that attacks me on another site, this is what I feel free to say on this site. I do not make similar comments anywhere else. That is what you got wrong.

    On this site, I feel I am among friends.

  70. Alleged offence from 2002. One charge of buying an icecream. Ch. Seven seen the charges first.

    That is according to the solicitor.

    Five police arrested a man for minor misappropriations.

    Where were you in 2002.

  71. This is my first ever blog participation anywhere. I am filled with horror and loathing by any government involving Abbott, Christopher Pyne the 10 second “Relevance” Jack-in-box, or that North Shore Fat Guy with the phony smile. I and some members of my family have lived under totalitarian regimes, and you Aussies have no idea that yes, It CAN happen here. I would cut off my hand before voting Right Wing after what the CIA was encouraged to do to the 2nd Whitlam Govt. I always vote Green first, knowing that your wonderful preferenrtial system allows me to put Labor second ad not waste my vote. My number one topic of interest is Julian Assange and the young American Pte Manning. When Mr Assange gets a medal from Ms Gillard, I will support her to the max.

  72. Min wrote:
    “Treeman, now I definitely know that you do not have any sort of insight into this issue…biofuels from algae just so happens to be the subject of my daughter’s PhD thesis at UQ. It is most definitely “real world” with UQ, UniSA working in conjunction with the Chinese and the Germans.”

    My point exactly, it’s a thesis, an experiment. Zip nada nothing in real world production to date.

    You wrote of China leading the world…Here’s a global map of planned coal fired capacity. China 557,938 MW. India 519,396 MW. Total global, 1,401,278 MW

    http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/global-map-of-planned-coal-fired-capacity-tells-a-story/

    No wonder the tankers are lined up off Mackay. You suggest that ” we keep up with the times or we will rapidly head back to the days of being a 2nd class economy.”

    No chance of that with so much coal to be sold. Why don’t you ask gillard to stop selling it?

  73. “Conspiracy theories” starting to hit the ether re Thomson. A year or so ago I would’ve laughed at talk of this coming from pretty much any political group. But not anymore. As pointed out, largely standard operating practice in the Old Country.

    And what joy for the media!!! Now spared the task of having to think of new stuff to write, it’s back to business as usual

  74. Bob, one of the bail condition is that he does not approach any that it is alleged he engaged for sexual services.

    He represented himself in court. At this stage there is only one charge, It seem more about getting him in for questioning. He does have the legal right to refuse questions, but when one is being threatened with charges, exercising that tight becomes a little hard.

    Do prostitutes firstly hang around a decade or more. If so, are they really able to remember who they has sex with.lived, or even their names. .

    If their memory is so good, and if I was a man, especially a successful one, I would start worrying.

    PS I am not arguing that he is innocence, far from that. He is still innocent until proved guilty.

    What I a saying, much of today’s action by the police appear surreal.

    I am also aware, that I will get abuse, and my words will ber twisted into another meaning. Amen.

  75. ‘When Mr Assange gets a medal from Ms Gillard, I will support her to the max.’

    That’s never going to happen, but Assange has a good chance of getting that senate seat.

  76. I don’t have the impression that any contributor here is undecided as to who they will be voting for in the September election.

    Maybe because I’m an occasional poster here … but I am undecided, REALLY undecided …

    I can assure you I am bitterly disappointed with the options Australians and myself are offered. The final chapters clinched it …

    The Liberals and Utegate/Ashby/Slipper … Sicilian Mafiosa candidates

    The ALP and HSU debacle/captain’s pick … bunch of Chicago mobsters …

    So I ask:
    1.Do you know at this stage which party you will vote for in the House of Representatives and/or the Senate?

    How anyone could “defend” the actions, behaviour or amateurism of either major political party is beyond me … Eddie Groves was a better manager … as for the Greens … pie in the sky nonsense … none of them live in tents, grow their own food, make their own clothes, grow trees for firewood, ride horses (they wouldn’t pick up the horseshit if they did) … but expect everyone else to.

    Then we have Katter’s Lot … shakes head (I used to fly regularly, back from minesites listening to the drone … of his fkn voice … nothing’s changed there …

    2.What is likely to change your mind (if it were possible)?

    People getting their noses out of the trough and actually not thinking about themselves – journos, media maggotts (sic), corporates, pollies, advisers, lobbyists, public servants nad voters … I’ve never seen so much me, me, me in my life … people just take and don’t want to give … tax is a swear word … dumb and dumber …

    Seriously 😉 – a clean start … sweep the bloody lot of them out of our Parliament … set up a Managerial Committee, to ban parties, vet independent candidates who have QUALIFICATIONS, SKILLS and EXPERIENCE suitable for running one of the richest countries in the world (law practices aren’t “run” by lawyers)… public servants should have to work in the real world every five years for twelve months … and then return to government if they wish …

    The only politician I can see with any potential to become a true statesman is Malcolm Turnbull … and then you look at the rabble who would supposedly “support” him … bunch of incompetent tools fools …

    3.What are the issues that are important to you and why are they worth your vote?

    Honesty, integrity, competence, empathy, life skills, ability (to communicate with society), infrastructure, duplication of service, medical/hospital, health/age care, education, workplace training, a national PLAN longer than six months, ability to make it happen …

    I was recently informed that politics is a game … well its about time it became a bloody profession …

    Now, don’t get me started on the incompetents who proudly proclaim to be journalists … half of them can’t even spell, or structure a sentence properly …

    … anyway … I feel bitterbetter now … but not about the questions …

  77. If their memory is so good, and if I was a man, especially a successful one, I would start worrying.

    😯 🙄

    CU, not all of us go to the “pleasure palaces” because we are “successful” … 😦

  78. People getting their noses out of the trough and actually not thinking about themselves – journos, media maggotts (sic), corporates, pollies, advisers, lobbyists,

    Spot on!

  79. TB. I think you get the drift. Would hate to see one turn up on my doorstep,.

    Then as an old woman, I am only guessing.

  80. TB and,

    3.What are the issues that are important to you and why are they worth your vote?

    Hopefully, this will be the question which the people of Australia which will be asking.

    I would like to add to your most admirable list…and add, an ability to consider the future..that it not be a matter of race, ethnicity but all about ability. What I would like is a level playing field even if it means throwing “wasted dollars” into some communities.

    TB, I’m certain that you’ve always been successful..although I might need to check with the Minister about that one. 😉

    **for our newer contributors, the Minister is Mrs. TB. I thought to clarify that one just in case the above statement might cause confusion…

  81. CU … with the comments you make here (and elsewhere) please, please, never , ever let me read you saying things like this ever again! Then as an old woman

    Age is a number! I know 70 year olds who act like 16 year olds and 16 … OK maybe not! 30 year olds who act like 70 yo!

    When you get over 60 in numbers you are entitled to say – sorry, your wrong or I’m not happy with that etc … just ask specsavers 🙂 and that bloody Peter Fraser from PJ Roofing is in for a rude awakening this year … do NOT deal with him … power corrupts but absolute power … his nemesis awaits … he knows not what he has stirred …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    G’day Min, I thought we’de lost you! You know me better than most I think … I don’t criticise the ALP unless I mean it! They really need to lift their game … Gillard has become a millstone and I think its too late for Rudd (although Peacock may not agree – “Lazarus” Howard, rose four times if memory serves!)

    although I might need to check with the Minister about that one.

    Cheeky – ’cause you know the answer!

    Just to add to your description … she is, The Minister for War, Water, Finance, Water, Power and Fun …

    A close (female) friend once asked me, “So what do you do, TB” … “Every Cabinet has a PM… ” 😉

  82. TB, that was tongue in cheek. Just though I would get in first, as I know the visitors will soon be letting me know what they think. They seem to think I am an easy mark.

    The funny thing is, I do not feel old.

    Good to see you around.

  83. The funny thing is, I do not feel old.

    I know what you mean … if we didn’t tell ’em they wouldn’t know anyway!

    Good to see you around.

    Glad to be around ! 😉

  84. No TB, not lost..just a bit busy the move to relocate here took well..a whole 20 second’s of decision making. 😉

    I would like you to consider about this Gillard “millstone”. I cannot think of any politician who could have done better given circumstances, given the extraordinary free passes awarded to Tony Abbott.

    There are many of Gillard’s policies which I do not like..however, I like Abbott’s policies even less.

  85. shane, sorry that your rough trot continues. I hope it’s run its course now.

    Geez, with a plethora of charges such as he bought himself an icecream, Thomson is really turning out to be a bad boy. What next? He reads the paper?

    Never have voted Liars and I never will. They’ve always been a bunch of scumbags and nothing’s changed. If anything they’re worse now than at any other time.

    TB, Turnbull’s already had a crack and was found wanting. He’s not leadership material, imo. Mind you, a cane toad would be an improvement on Liealot. But even cane toads draw the line somewhere.

  86. Is strip searching the norm for these types of charges. A search where rubber gloves was necessary.

    It is said that the FWA matters today before the court, will be postponed. If Thomson was successful, the matter could have been dropped

    Is the Thomson matter being turned into a media circus.

    Is Mr. Brandis correct in saying that there is a connection between the PM election date announcement and the Thomson arrest. They are saying the PM was aware of the coming police action.

    Is Mr. Abbott justified in accusing the PM of running a protection racket. Is Mr. Brandis alleging the PM has interfered in the course of justice. He was asked this last night on Lateline, as running an protection racket infers corruption.

  87. The 2 people unsurprised by the Thomson arrest were the 2 on the podium at the NPC. Steve Lewis of Grech/Ashby infamy and Tony Abbott of I have no specific knowledge fame.
    So what is the first action of the Liberals blame the PM for prior knowledge, yeah sure Brandis. Brandis the guy who called Howard a lying rodent. Keep looking in your mirror Brandis.

  88. Cuppa and Doc

    The Liberals cut Pyne out of the picture and replaced him with Turnbull for their mini campaign booklet. The other outer limit just got cut.

  89. Thanks so much Jane, Bacchus and anyone else I have missed.

    Now the fight with insurance company begins. To give you a background my insurance was all with my previous employer ( a bank ) for over 20 years. In 2010 one of the banks I am accredited with approached brokers with a view to forming an alliance with a major insurance company where discounts and feee monthly payments would be offered to broker clients. We were encouraged to call regarding our own insurance as well and experience the service and premiums.

    I did and was impressed so moved on 16/07/10. The exact same benefits and $100 excess that applied to my policy for over 15 years. Also switched my car as well.

    Owing to the loss of all food I checked my policy and it said food spoilage was covered but did not specify an amount.

    I rang and enquired and was advised the maximum amount was $500 less your excess of $300. I said hang on my excess is $100. He put me though to another department who stated that my excess had been increased from $100 to $300 as of 16/07/11 and that had been advised in the new policy mailed to me. It was a blanket decision by the company to increase all policies on $100 excess to $300 excess and if you did not fully read your policy or not get it in the mail and did not call them to request your policy revert back to the originally agreed terms then it was not their problem or their responsibility. My policy is paid by the month so I am never late or fail to renew.

    While I truly believe in insurance I think this action by my insurer is nothing short of criminal. I understand that some aspects of policy and terminology change, however the excess amount is an absolute major part of a policy and should never be changed via a mailout. This is an insidious, greedy, theft stealing act after the 2011 floods. So I can claim $500 abd get $200 after excess and my preiums will go up as I will also lose no claim bonus.

    The excess was never ever changed by my previous insurer.

    My current thieving bastard arsehole insurance company is the final straw of someone who has been though quite a bit lately. I am going to do everything in my power to get justice, starting with the ombudsman. I have informed the bank that arranged this alliance that the insurance company are thieving bastards and I will never ever recommend them again and tell everyone to never ever insure with this leech sucking mob of cretins. I am also contacting those who I have recommended and telling them what has happened and suggest they insure elsewhere.

    This company has breached any basis of trust or decency in my opinion. It would be like the bank writing a letter stating they have altered the term of your loan. Some things just cannot and should not be altered without personal contact. Not a bulk mail out conveniently after the 2011 floods.

    A very angry and fired up blogger who is looking for a fight against this stinking ,rotten, thieving cesspit of a company.

    Angry ? YES

  90. ‘Gillard has become a millstone and I think its too late for Rudd’

    There is always the chance that Tabot will shoot himself in the foot over the course of this long campaign.

    Alternatively, as the election day gets closer Joolya maybe encouraged to hand over the leadership to a clean skin like Smith who would carry the mantle of PM into the election.

  91. el gordo, this will blow over quickly, like all before it, There is little new being raised.

    Mr, Rudd was out this morning, strongly backing the PM, and he sounded like he meant it.

  92. Just to correct the ABC. Mr. Thomson was arrested on one charge yesterday. He is facing further charges.

  93. Abbott out promising more money in Tassie. Emergency loans for small businesses in disaster zone. More roads. Carbon …………ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  94. Just popped back to say, what a great SPOT by, sue, I love the psychology of elections … that tells me that Abbott and his cronies are running scared of Turnbull!

    For Liberal (and/or swinging) voters – beware what you wish for … I live in Queensland, Noddy & The Newmen are busily dismantling my state … don’t let them do it to my country …

  95. Abbott out promising more money in Tassie

    Sounds familiar … ie $1,000,000 for a certain Tassie hospital? (Eventually over $2.5 million to OUR Federal Government!)

  96. Hi there TB hope you drop in more regularly/ I would also vote for Turnbull if he was Opposition Leader, my only fear would be a rolling of him by the extreme right like happened to Rudd. Although I think that may never happen again in politics due to the fallout.

  97. ‘I would also vote for Turnbull if he was Opposition Leader’

    He would make a good president of the new republic, ceremonial power only, but no good as PM. His strong belief in human induced global warming means he is mentally unfit to lead the nation.

  98. el gordo

    Your single and amazingly nausiating obsession with global warming means you are mentally unfit to comment on anything else. There is much more to Turnbull than global warming. I wish there was more to your comments than the broken record and incessant monotonous denials and insinuations and linking of global warming to everything anyone comments about.

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