Nothing’s changed: we still believe what we read in the papers

With both the festive season and penciled-in engagement dates creeping up very fast, the opportunity to write new posts is a bit restricted. A few are in draft mode, and of course if anything exciting were to happen on the political front over Christmas then I’ll be on the keyboard at the drop of a hat. Or a wine glass, more likely.

Apart from the occasional new post, over the next couple of weeks (while we’re all busy, no doubt) I’ll be re-posting articles from the archives that have content that is still as pertinent today as when they were written. This post is the first of these, based on We are what we read from September 2011. It was a dig at Australians for the easy way they fall into a hypnotic trance from the rubbish they read in our mainstream media. They believe every word. If, somewhere on the front page, they were asked to act like monkeys then they’d surely be dragging their knuckles all day.

Not much of anything has changed from the original post. Julia Gillard is still bad and Tony Abbott is still good. The papers say it, so it must be true. Or so an idiot would believe.

Anyway, here’s a slightly edited version of the original post.

I am always chuffed at the number of comments I receive while overseas that compliment the economic stability of Australia.  Here is a sample:

  • Australia has always had strong leaders
  • The Australian dollar is very stable and healthy
  • The economy is going gangbusters over there
  • It’s great how you guys held firm during the GFC.

And this one:

  • We appreciate the lead Australia is taking against global warming.

Not one of these people have visited Australia.  They only know about us from what they read in the media.

Oh how refreshing it was to be confronted by this media inspired positive portrayal.  And it was all true.  Our dollar is strong, as is our economy and economic rating.  We did avoid a recession and the Western world acknowledges this and is envious of it, and we do always have strong leaders.  Everywhere I went, people were giving Australia a deserved pat on the back.

But not so the Australians I met overseas.  At every opportunity they were condemning our lucky and prosperous country.  When exposed to their rants it was apparent that all their political knowledge and opinions were formed from what they read or heard in the Australian media.

Before I am attacked with the suggestion that I’m blaming the media for this or that or whatever – I am not – I am only suggesting that people believe what the media tells them.

The fellow Australians knew that Julia Gillard encourages refugee boats, that the Carbon Tax was going to ruin everyone in Australia with an annual income under $150,000, that the mining industry was at the crossroads because of the resource tax, that new taxes will be introduced on a monthly basis, that the GST will increase and worst of all, we will inevitably be a Muslim country and Julia Gillard’s contribution to this inevitable outcome cannot be ignored.  They knew all this of course, because they read it in the papers.

These very same people had Tony Abbott ‘nodding head moments’ when I mentioned that there will be a carbon price no matter who is in power, or that to fund Abbott’s maternity leave plan the mining industry would be hit even harder than they would be with the resource tax, or that Abbott’s present carbon reduction policy would hurt the family budget more than Gillard’s, or that the number of boat people entering Australia is a drop in the ocean (excuse the pun) when compared to the number of plane arrivals.  I was puzzled, in particular, that nobody knew anything about Tony Abbott.  Then it hit me: apart from his negativity, nothing about the man or his policies are published in our media.

The average person in the street can only rely on what the media tells them.  It was the same overseas.  If the overseas papers were filled with negativity about Australia then I’m sure I would have heard about it.  Instead, all I heard was praise, for that is what is being published around the world: praise for Australia.

We are what we read.  We will believe what the papers tell us.  One lot of papers is saying that Australia is economically and politically strong while another lot are telling us the country is in a mess and is poorly governed.  The latter are also telling us everything they want us to know about Julia Gillard but nothing about Tony Abbott.  It is comical that those vociferous in their condemnation of Julia Gillard have not a skerrick of knowledge about Tony Abbott.  It is also comical that those vociferous in their criticism of this great country have no idea how economically strong we really are.  It’s a pity that if you want to find out how strong and healthy this country is . . . then you’ll have to find out by reading an American or European newspaper.

52 comments on “Nothing’s changed: we still believe what we read in the papers

  1. But surely Miglo, a tyrannical, commie, dirty left wing, man hating. illegitimate government like Juliars would be out to get those on incomes OVER $150,000? not under? coz I red in the oztrlian that Rhinehart thinks this guvment hates rich peeple. If youer rite they must hate everyone and the orstrayun is right that this the worst guvement ever! Ps. my brain hurts, will joe give me handout for that?

  2. Um how dumb are you Rupert Murdoch is MARRIED TO COMMIE!!!!!!!!

    MOVE TO YOUR COMMIE LOVING JOE HOCKEY CAN I HAVE SOME MORE MURDOCH LOVING POLITICANS RESIDENCE!!!!!!!!

  3. It’s not only what they tell us it’s what they show us. Whilst visiting neighbours I noticed a recent copy of The OZ, Didn’t see the headline just 2 pics, on the left a fresh faced Ashby,right beside him, head down, hand over his mouth was Slipper. Would never have guessed the actual outcome of the case, from those pics..

  4. Perception is only possible with benefit of balanced Perspective. I reiterate, most journalists have forgotten the meaning of reporter.
    Happy Santa (c) Coca Cola, holidays MigloCW. Great Read 🙂

    One of this years highlights for my vote, is bestiality in a bill debate. Perspective? The opposition and the power base of shock jock entertainers paint the government as the worst in Australian history. The economy, vision and confidence is AAA rated, a stark contrast of our home team press on performance or perspective. People say they are proud in Australia? We have Bogan nationalism…..At the moment we personify the first Google hit for lucky country.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Country
    We used to be proud of Australia’s prosperity as I remember.
    Perspective?
    Plot;
    Power at any cost
    Log Line.
    The last line of political donation is disclosure of media, the stuff money cant buy.

  5. I don’t think Miglo caught my sarcasm, but it could be my fault, I don’t always come across clearly. Hey Migs, I’m on your side!

  6. …for a moment there I thought that AGAINST SPEARS!!!!!!! (who has just recently discovered how to use the Caps locks) said Connie. 😀

  7. Dion and Migs, when do you ever see a good photo of the Prime Minister in the papers. They try and make you look like a fiend or a tormented soul.

  8. Recalcitrantrick I caught the sarcasm and was surprised at Mig’s rejoiner.

    You must forgive him, fighting right wing Abbott loving zombie trolls 24/7 takes it out of you, or the cellar does, can’t remember which.

  9. Nothing changes. The lies keep coming. Cannot be bothered reading that Judgement. After all according to Abbott, Labor began it all. None of his doing. He is just working hard for the good of the country. Well he is working hard trashing it here and overseas, I must admit. Working very hard.

    Tony Abbott has laughed off suggestions that his weakening approval rating as coalition leader should prompt a departure from the Liberal Party’s top job.

    The latest Nielsen opinion poll showed Mr Abbott’s disapproval rating at 63 per cent, the second-worst in the party’s history.

    But the opposition leader defended himself and the actions of his colleagues.

    ‘The coalition has been doing the right thing by the people of Australia,’ he said, laughing after being asked by a reporter if the poll result should see him step aside from the leadership.

    ‘We have been holding a bad government to account. We have been demonstrating that we are a credible alternative. We’ve been saying to the Australian people it can be better than this’.’

    Among Liberal politicians, Mr Abbott’s disapproval rating came second only to Andrew Peacock’s rating of 72 per cent recorded in October 1984.

    The latest poll, published by Fairfax Media on Monday, put the coalition ahead of Labor by 52-48 per cent on a two-party preferred basis, while Julia Gillard remained preferred prime minister, leading Mr Abbott 50-40 per cent.

    Labor’s primary vote, which has been at 34 per cent for the past three months, was at 35 per cent while the coalition’s fell two points to 43 per cent and the Greens fell two points to 10 per cent.

    Damaging Mr Abbott’s image was his handling of the Australian Workers’ Union issue and pursuit of Ms Gillard over some minor legal work she did pro-bono for the union 20 years ago, said Nielsen director John Stirton.

    Treasurer Wayne Swan further labelled Mr Abbott ‘a thug when it comes to personal attacks’.

    ‘Every time the government hyperventilates about the opposition it demonstrates it has no positive plans for the future of our country,’ Mr Abbott said of the treasurer’s criticism.

    Of the AWU issue, he stood by the coalition’s call for a judicial inquiry and said it should be remembered that a member of the Labor government first raised the item.

    Mr Abbott on Tuesday left London, where he spent five days attending a series of meetings…

    http://www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx?id=827916

  10. Well it looks like Labor has lied again. We promised to spend more aid money to get a seat on the UN. However being deceitful, Labor is going to spend the overseas aid money on ourselves.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/refugee-bill-to-hit-5-billion/story-e6frg6n6-1226539981845

    The looming blowout comes as World Vision claimed 200,000 people could die because of Labor’s decision to divert hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign aid to cover asylum seeker blowouts at home. Each one of the 30,000 possible new arrivals next year, flagged by the Houston Panel this week, would cost Labor’s battered budget an estimated $165,000…………………Rumblings inside Labor began yesterday over the decision to divert $375 million in foreign aid funding to help pay for the growing cost of feeding and housing asylum seekers, with MP Melissa Parke reportedly accusing the government of “balancing our budget on the backs of the extreme poor“.

  11. Well it looks like Labor has lied again.

    I reckon you are right there. I have no problems increasing the refugee quota, but that shouldn’t come at the expense of aid we send oversees.

    And, Labor kicked up a fuss when the libs did it too. Difference is, the media didn’t care back then.

    I also note this morning that, after defending brough so strongly, it emerges that tabot hadn’t even read the judges rulings. Not that that should surprise anyone.

  12. This is a bad move by Labor which I’ve condemned on Twitter and Facebook.

    Melissa Parke is right and brave to speak out.

    This has come about because of the stupid promise to balance the budget and not have a deficit in fear of the media and opposition backlash. It was a bad pledge to make.

    Neil should be praising this move as he goes on about nothing but Labor deficits and Liberal surpluses. The Liberals have promised to cut the foreign aid budget to bring in surpluses and Howard did this as well, so the last person who can criticise Labor on this is Neil as they are doing exactly what Neil says they should.

  13. It is obvious that AGAINST SPEARS!!!!!!! (real name Ben Davies) is a right-wing troll. Here’s what he said on Facebook:

    rupert murdoch is a married to a communist you lying piece of ********’

    I don’t know what set his rant off. Complete weirdo. Quite common amongst that lot.

  14. Migs, weirdo is right..Murdoch’s 3rd wife is a Chinese American business woman. I wonder what she would think about being labelled a communist..not that it matters…typical trollish behaviour, attempt to derail topics by introducing irrelevancies.

  15. No Neil, circumstances have changed. Labor changed their minds.

    There is a difference you know. A lie is when one says something, knowing they are not going to do it.

    What is of concern, is the reason they changed their minds. It is worrying that they are sticking to reaching a surplus when most are sau\ying it is not prudent at his time.

    The decisions are being made for political reasons. That is a worry.

    The second is the government is facing spending money on asylum seekers because Mr. Abbott is playing political games with these people.

    It is time for the full Houston Report to be put into operation.

    Yes, the PM has changed her mind in this incidence, as the PM has no other choice.

    What needs to be done is for Mr. Abbott accepts that his spiel on a surplus at this time is wrong. The second is that he will support all of the Houston Report being put in place.

    Mr. Abbott has nothing to lose if he does, If he is right about what needs to be done to stop the boats, this will fail and he will have his chance. The first option will show he might just have some economical nous.

    Yes, it is time for Mr. Abbott to change his mind, as circumstances have also changed for him.

  16. Min, I do not believe in the rubbish about Murdoch’s wife, but I believe he met her in China when he failed in his TV interest, Therefore it was likely she was a member of the party. What I fail to see, why does that matter.

    Noticed Laika ABC24 is pointing out that Bough has not faced the media, and a gentle prod at Abbott.

  17. For days now some Labor MPs have been publicly questioning the increasingly desperate insistence by the Treasurer and the Prime Minister that they will get the budget into the black for 2013/14. Last Thursday night government whip Joel Fitzgibbon said on Sky news: “I’d give it up.”

    “We’ve got monetary and fiscal budget policy running in different directions … The public will understand things are still bad in the international market place.” This on the day it was reported Treasury had advised the government to abandon its commitment.

    Continue reading “What price a “surplus
    http://www.thepunch.com.au/

  18. Abbott does not have to support anything, the government has the numbers in both houses to pass legislation.

    The government is responsible for supporting the Huston Report so all blame should be put on them!

    The defence of cutting foreign aid here confirms that this government could kill babies and their brainless supporters would still support them. Must be so proud.

  19. Had the numbers to pass all that legislation (regulation) including a CO2 tax that does nothing and a mining tax that collects no money. There will be no surplus under a government Gillard leads!

  20. Oh you are wrongly inferring that the Greens and Indies are in a Coalition with Labor.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

  21. No Neil, circumstances have changed. Labor changed their minds.

    There is a difference you know. A lie is when one says something, knowing they are not going to do it.”

    You just confirmed to me that you are nothing but a brain dead tribal loyalist. When I first arrived on Dunlops blog I remember the abuse Howard got because of the core and non-core promises. I actually do not know what these alleged promises were but he got abused for not keeping them.

    Apparently Labor promised to spend a certain amount on foreign aid to help us get a seat on the UN. What Labor forgot to tell the people whose vote we were trying to get is that we were going to spend the foreign aid on ourselves.

  22. Oh, what a laugh, just as funny as the Bob the Builder spin to deflect the fact that Bolt out rates Insiders.

    The Greens signed a document guaranteeing confidence and supply, looks like a coalition to most sane people. Oh wait…

  23. So a confidence of supply guarantee is now a coalition?

    And the many pieces of legislation that the Greens didn’t support but the LNP did means that the LNP must be in a Coalition with Labor.

    Again on the Bolt ratings furphy. You really are becoming petty and insignificant in your attacks and rants.

  24. You really are becoming petty and insignificant in your attacks and rants.

    Actually to the point NoS debates more lucidly and credibly.

  25. Can’t debate…

    Should have stopped there scaper 🙄

    Mö shoots your coalition BS down in flames and you accuse him of being in denial – Might I suggest a mirror for you?

  26. Ah, & here comes Scraper again, uttering his Right Wing Bullshit. He apparently has ignored several posts which have condemned Labor’s decision in this very thread, & ignored the comments pointing out that Howard did this-& more-when he was in Office. Instead he just tells his usual lies about how Labor “has the numbers”, when in fact they clearly don’t-otherwise they wouldn’t be a *Minority* Government. No point debating brain dead, factless trolls like Scraper.

  27. It’d be nice if Australia could maintain its current level of foreign aid to foreign parts.
    But there’s only so much money to go around & since any withdrawal of funds from anywhere else to maintain aid levels would be criticised, Decisions Must Be Made.

    P.S. a word of advice to those who criticise this decision in the light of a suggested deficit: get your complaints in now. Because if a deficit happens no one, no one at all in the media, will have any space for those who think it’s a good thing.

  28. “You just confirmed to me that you are nothing but a brain dead tribal loyalist. When I first arrived on Dunlops blog I remember the abuse Howard got because of the core and non-core promises. I actually do not know what these alleged promises were but he got abused for not keeping them.”

    Pot. Kettle. Black. You’re full of crap as always, Neil. It’s your mob who consistently attack Gillard about her supposed “Lies” (even calling her “Juliar”, how very “mature”, I think not), yet want to ignore the far, far bigger lies told by little Johnnie Howard. If it was OK in the eyes of tribal loyalists like yourself for Howard to create the concept of “Core” vs “Non-Core” promises, then why do you so quickly howl in outrage every time Labor changes its position on policies? Of course political parties change their positions once elected-“L-A-W” tax cuts come to mind-but Howard made it into an art-form. Once elected in 1996, he completely cut out any remotely socially progressive policies he’d promised (his non-core promises), whilst retaining all of his Far-Right agenda (like “fees for degrees” & IR ‘reform’). He of course didn’t stop there, making a career out of telling porkies. Compared to Howard, every other Prime Minister we’ve ever had has been as “pure as the driven snow”.

  29. BSA Bob. A better option would have been to abandon their ludicrously expensive plan to re-open Nauru & Manus Island, & take the cheaper option of (a) releasing asylum seekers here in Australia into the community pending determination of their refugee status & (b) going to Indonesia & Malaysia to help the UNHCR process the asylum seekers there *before* they try & board a boat to come here. I reckon that’d save them close to $600 million per year!

  30. The asylum seeker situation is of their own making Marcus in attempting to take up the Liberals policy so blame for failure could be rightly laid at the feet of Abbott and co.

    Problem was the money involved. The Pacific solution was costing Howard a large amount of taxpayers money, and in today’s tight money it’s costing even more.

    The solution was always an overly expensive one and it would be for whoever is in government. But as you correctly say there’s a cost effective resolution available but alas that will never be a political viable one because of what Howard has done to instil unfounded fear and xenophobia.

  31. Marcus. Time for the PM to say, the experiment is a failure and is over. We cannot afford it. The people are being abused.

    We, do as you say let the people in, or with the help of the Opposition,, we move ahead with the whole Houston Package.

    Leaving it up to Mr. Abbott, which way we go.

  32. I do not know about being brain dead. I believe some here have nothing between the ears. I know I have hit the spot, when the insults start coming.

    I take it as a compliment when they do.

    Scaper and Neil, thanks for making my day.

  33. Miglo
    December 19, 2012 @ 9:15 am
    It is obvious that AGAINST SPEARS!!!!!!! (real name Ben Davies) is a right-wing troll. Here’s what he said on Facebook:

    Poor Britney

    Neil Nil of Sydney
    December 19, 2012 @ 8:54 am
    Well it looks like Labor has lied again. We promised to spend more aid money to get a seat on the UN. However being deceitful, Labor is going to spend the overseas aid money on ourselves.
    “The looming blowout comes as World Vision claimed 200,000 people could die because of Labor’s decision

    Yep Labor are baby killers you’re a genius.

    Douche scaper…
    December 19, 2012 @ 10:36 am
    Abbott does not have to support anything, the government has the numbers in both houses to pass legislation. The government is responsible for supporting the Huston Report so all blame should be put on them! The defence of cutting foreign aid here confirms that this government could kill babies and their brainless supporters would still support them. Must be so proud.

    Douche scaper… Adds nothing but insult again, a factless troll’s barrage of bleating lies

    Yeah Baby Killers.. What a Pillar of intellect you are 🙄

    Douche scaper…
    December 19, 2012 @ 10:58 am
    Had the numbers to pass all that legislation (regulation) including a CO2 tax that does nothing and a mining tax that collects no money. There will be no surplus under a government Gillard leads!

    Douche scaper… Adds no facts again.. gee, that’s strange 🙄

    Comparative analysis of economic credentials maybe? Oh wait…No costing’s 😦 from the fibs that’s right 🙄 I see we have a AAA rating despite the fiberal flopposition to stimulus measures during that little unmentionable inconvenient acronym the GFC and talking down the economy at every turn whilst offering nothing but uncosted rhetoric. The “FACT” that Australia has one of the best economic scorecards in the world thanks to Wayne Swan “world’s best treasurer” makes fiberals look desperately stupid.

    Neil Nil of Sydney
    December 19, 2012 @ 11:08 am
    “No Neil, circumstances have changed. Labor changed their minds.
    There is a difference you know. A lie is when one says something, knowing they are not going to do it.” (Core or non Cor?)
    You just confirmed to me that you are nothing but a brain dead tribal loyalist .

    Merry Christmas and fuck off to you too Nil. You are obviously rattled as Abbott web of deceit is unraveling and may have to announce an actual policy instead of trash talk and a PDF speech pamphlet. Like the 130,000 less Uni places and abolishing the Uni start up grant in line with his Elitist ideology.

    Abbott: “They are indeed and that’s their privilege…you see the Marxists that I said are operating in the universities…they realise now that the universities play a crucial role in the education of the elite of modern society. And they understand that if they destroy the academic standards and perhaps even the moral standards of that elite well then they have perhaps fundamentally and fatally undermined liberal democratic society…”

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/10/05/tony-abbotts-uni-past-gets-another-guernsey/

    Howard got because of the core and non-core promises. I actually do not know what these alleged promises were but he got abused for not keeping them.

    Of course you don’t, don’t raise our expectation that you would include a fact with your usual tirade of cut and paste boltisms and insults. Howard was a series liar, it was “Core” to his ethos

    Apparently Labor promised to spend a certain amount on foreign aid to help us get a seat on the UN. What Labor forgot to tell the people whose vote we were trying to get is that we were going to spend the foreign aid on ourselves.

    If you check your facts we are reallocating the money not spending less and “killing babies” you cretin.

    Douche scaper…
    December 19, 2012 @ 11:20 am
    Oh, what a laugh, just as funny as the Bob the Builder spin to deflect the fact that Bolt out rates Insiders.

    Douche scaper… out doe’s himself this time

    Would you care to post a copy of the last rating figures (not Bolts Blog or channel 10) for both programs in their respective first run time slots? I will wait in dire anticipation of your qualified answer.

    Douche scaper….
    December 19, 2012 @ 11:36 am
    Still in denial I see. Can’t debate with liars like you so just pick you apart

    Douche scaper… is still convinced he is debating, poor deluded soul

    Pick apart what? You talk loud and say nothing, no facts just insults and lie’s you Factless Trolling pillock

    SO Neil Nil we are still waiting?
    Six character attributes and some ministerial highlights of Abbotts career…
    No..nothing? NO?
    We are still waiting are you having trouble? 😕
    Still waiting Neil Nil

    While you’re at it Neil Nil, The latest polls are in and the tide has turned somewhat. I wonder if Abbott has enough time to read these figures…I will expect a News Ltd poll tomorrow

    http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4852/

  34. Abbott’s London trip wouldn’t have anything to do with the Slipper case been thrown out of court, and now the Thomson HSU case having no subpoenaed evidence?????.

  35. recalcitrantrick, roflmao! 😆 😆 😆

    Neil, having a problem with long term memory? These should help.

    howardfacts.com/download/now/broken_promises_election_07.pdf

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=non-core+promise

    http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn3638779

    The Greens signed a document guaranteeing confidence and supply…

    Confidence and supply, scaper, the same deal as with the Independents. They won’t back a no confidence motion provided the government runs its full term and they won’t block supply.

    And as they’ve all voted against government legislation at various times, it’s a downright lie that they’re in a coalition with the ALP.

    As for most people, it would seem that they need to go back to primary school for lessons in reading and comprehension.

    OTOH, if the most people you refer to are the dingbat cretins who reckon Liealot is honest, or are serial liars like Anal, Dolt and the rest of the shock jocks, it would be a complete waste of time as they’re either too dumb or too corrupt to discern the difference between a tax and a price on emissions, let alone the inferences for the economy of a GFC.

    As usual, nice try but no cigar.

    Crowey @10.42am, another Liars Party scam bites the dust. When will they learn that their grand schemes always come undone because they’re too stupid to do the job properly?

    They should stick to what they’re good at-smear, lies, obfuscation, innuendo and no specific knowledge.

    Let’s face it, as soon as Slippergate hit the fan, we knew it would come to zip. The same tired old plot with the same tired incompetents, ffs! Lewis, Brough and Prissy-what a trifecta! And their star witnwess, Ashby. Who woulda thunk that could possibly turn to merdé? 😕

    Jacksongate- another epic fail! I wonder how much of Rupert’s, Gina’s and Twiggy’s their cash they’ve squandered on that little lot? QCs and high end law firms don’t come cheap.

    Now she’s buggered off and left them holding the bill before they dropped her in it. :shock::

    And now we learn Thomsongate is going to bite them on the hind quarters! How very upsetting. Thickness, thy name is Liars Party! Bwwwahahahahahahaha!!!

  36. Jane, 😆 gold, “Thickness, thy name is Liars Party!” ….FACT:- sitting PM losers seat…… ‘natural’ comedy that ( can’t make that up)… I bet that howardfact still rubs salt… who woulda thought that history has a sense of humour 😀
    http://www.howardfacts.com/

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