Who’s taking Tony’s job?

I can only assume that the reason the Coalition is doing so well in the polls whilst Tony Abbott maintains the popularity of a fart in an elevator is that those polled must surely expect him to be replaced before the 2013 election.

It is obvious no one wants him in the top job (bar his billionaire friends).

He can bemoan as often as he wants about the Prime Minister, the Government, the economy or the falling skies but one thing is inescapable: he is toxic.

How often have I read in comments across social media or heard in conversation “I’m a Liberal supporter but I don’t like Tony Abbott”?  Hundreds, to be honest. And it’s not often I hear or read someone thunder “I like Tony Abbott’.  I’m sure that if I mixed with bogans or rednecks (or billionaires) I’d hear it more often.

Given his electoral toxicity I actually find it incomprehensible that the Coalition will go into the next election with him at the helm.

How could they possibly have faith in a leader who regularly embarrasses himself on the international stage? How could they have faith in a leader who they know won’t be able to keep the promises he is making? How can they have faith in a leader who lacks one progressive brain cell in his body? How can they have faith in a leader who is content to fill his front bench with a pack of dumb-wits who have no instinct for their portfolios? And how can they have faith in a leader who must surely embarrass them with his public support of their stupidity?

It is obvious that the electorate recognise his incompetence. He’s even run out of ‘three word slogans’.

Has he run out of time?

If he maintains his poor polling as preferred Prime Minister some eye brows will need to be raised in his party. After 18 months in the top job in the Opposition the electorate is trying to tell him they don’t want him in the top job in Government. Will the penny drop within his party though?

And what if the Government experience a lift in the polls? All his efforts would have been wasted. He would have achieved very little during his toxic term.

I am certain he will be dumped before the election and I’m looking forward to him becoming the Mark Latham of the Liberal Party.

He won’t be able to keep his mouth shut.

Keep talking, Tony. You’ll soon be talking yourself out of a job.

I wonder who’ll take it.

Tony Abbott don't risk him

Tony Abbott don’t risk him (Photo credit: haikugirloz)

150 comments on “Who’s taking Tony’s job?

  1. Amid all their slogans, bile and bluster Coalition supporters are strangely silent about why Abbott would be a “good Prime Minister”.

    Even they’d admit (if truthful enough) he’s a toxic dunce, so they’re always keen to talk about anything or anyone else.

  2. I doubt little Johnny, he couldn’t even hang onto his seat, although I would imagine Jeanette’s still got a good grip on it!

  3. He has run down the economy from the position of opposition, just imagine the damage he will inflict upon Australia if given half a chance. Wake up Australia.. . : /

  4. I’d be watching someone like Morrison. He’s got the right-wing credentials:- accomplished dog-whistler, reliable reciter of simplistic slogans, churchgoer, hide like a rhino and he’d have the support of the shock jocks. Going against him would be lack of recognition in the public, though their ABC has been working on addressing that for ages now.

  5. Funny isn’t it Migs, these Liberal “luminaries” supposedly retire (or, in the rodent’s case are turfed by the electorate), yet continue to hold the sycophants in their thrall.

    Liberals are damn good followers, but few among them good or decent leaders.

  6. I’ve overlooked the point that the extremists like Minchin will want their man Abbott at the helm. They’ll be praying he holds on.

    Yes, Cuppa, it is funny, in a sad sort of way.

  7. Miglo @ 11.53pm, I saw the dark knight at the football a few weeks ago; he cuts rather a pathetic figure… looks like he spends time underwater…

  8. And I saw Phillip Ruddock at the Raider’s club a couple of months ago. He really does look like a zombie.

    The rumours were true.

  9. Cuppa, didn’t the rodent declare that he wouldn’t be the sort to continue giving his opinion after he lost his seat?

  10. Ruddock reminds me of Weekend at Bernies and the dark knight looks the same.

    I hate to admit it but I suppose he is a Crows supporter 😦

  11. The proof of any pudding is not to be found by looking through the oven door’s window, its when we have it on our plates floating in custard. Frankly I find the way you lot are so desperate to suggest that Tony Abbott will be a bad PM just because he is apparently unpopular with the voters endlessly amusing, especially when he is still more popular than Gillard. Really Migs you explained it yourself in your piece when you said:

    How often have I read in comments across social media or heard in conversation “I’m a Liberal supporter but I don’t like Tony Abbott”? Hundreds, to be honest. And it’s not often I hear or read someone thunder “I like Tony Abbott’. I’m sure that if I mixed with bogans or rednecks (or billionaires) I’d hear it more often.

    I have emboldened the operative descriptor above, people may not ‘like’ Tony Abbott fro lots of different reasons but that won’t stop them voting Labor out and giving the coalition a thumping great majority in the next parliament. Further you should not be so quick to dismiss “bogans and rednecks” because believe it or not they are citizens and just as entitled to vote as you and I and the fact that they out number the Latte sippers should suggest that the left need to work harder at convincing them that their interests may be better served by your political philosophy rather than just dismissing and disrespecting them.

  12. Iain, once again you have missed the point, It is not “that Tony Abbott will be a bad PM just because he is apparently unpopular with the voters”, it is because he is a rambling sociopath with a policy free zone where most people have some sort of original thought.
    And to come down to a more base level, he looks like a V W with the doors open, and has about the same level of intelligence and emotional aptitude.

    Sorry about the last one but I have only just woken up, and felt that it needed to be said!

  13. Hey Skeptical how dare you sell Herbie short. He’s got way more intelligence and emotional aptitude than Abbott, whose is on par with a house brick.

  14. As I said, I had just woken up, and was thinking more of your basic V dub as opposed to the exceptional Herbie, but the house brick analogy is one I use regularly, so I bow to your lightning fast uptake and sit blurry eyed and corrected!
    Cheers

  15. Looks like your Tony will become PM on a record landslide.
    I feel sorry for Tony being impotent to fix the horrendous policy cockups of gillard.
    When he becomes PM all will be fine. We will once again control who comes to this country and the manner in which they come.
    Tony will get rid of the most toxic of gillard’s policies – The carbon Dioxide Tax.
    We won’t have to see the waddling barge arse on the world stage or domestically.
    The 72% (100%-28% rusted ons) will be over the moon. The populace will cheer, hand clap, offer up their babies to be kissed by Tony Our Saviour.
    For many many years their will be horror stories told to children about the Big Bad Red Headed monster who once waddled around Canberra.
    Larry Pickering will be able to retire.

    Sorry to have neglected you all. Have been offshore …… and loving the serenity.

  16. How many times have I read on blogs…”I am a Labor voter but can’t stand Gillard”? Most probably as many times as the Abbott statement, a tactic both sides use and very dubious at best.

    Bogan? Just a trendy descriptor for people of little education, low social class that the name callers consider them less than other Australians and are too stupid to think for themselves!

    Now, if this underclass really exists would they vote Liberal?

    Abbott is going nowhere, he will be leader at the next election and the next leader is not positioned yet to follow. Howard is pretty much out of the picture these days and have no time for that grub, Minchin!

  17. Scaper and wait for it, I actually agree with you. For myself though, I believe that I have legitimate reasons to intensely dislike Tony Abbott – I dislike his holier than thou attitude (eg Bernie Banton), I dislike his attitude towards females and minority groups (feels threatened by gays). I believe that he has no vision whatsoever for Australia but that his sole motivation is self-promotion.

    On the other hand I believe that “a job” has been done on Julia – compare the positive publicity she used to receive eg lauded as one of parliament’s most accomplished performers and now which consists of a lot of sexist clap trap eg the audacity of the grope article.

    Abbott will be leader unless there are enough Liberals who would prefer to do the best of Australia and who would support someone such as Turnbull who at least has ideas and a vision.

  18. Min
    You may like Turnbull but the vast majority of his fellow Libs don’t and their vote in the party room decides the matter. He will never be leader again.

    For myself though, I believe that I have legitimate reasons to intensely dislike Tony Abbott – I dislike his holier than thou attitude (eg Bernie Banton), I dislike his attitude towards females and minority groups (feels threatened by gays). I believe that he has no vision whatsoever for Australia but that his sole motivation is self-promotion.

    Bernie Banton certainly fought hard for his cause but don’t you think its a bit OTT to believe that just because he was dying that he should have been treated as some sort of saint?
    On women, well I don’t get the reason for your concern,if its about his attitude to abortion do you really think that he would criminalise it?
    On Gays? really you take his candour and exaggerate it
    Vision? come off it a man without vision would not be writing books about Australian
    politics the way that Abbott has.
    Finally no one who is going for the top job can expect to get it without some self promotion it goes with the territory, however you would making a grave mistake to think that the campaigning is all that there is to the man.

  19. Turnbull has a vision? I’m yet to meet a politician with vision from any side. True vision is to identify unintended consequences and formulate policy in conjunction with other policy settings.

    Turnbull will not be a future leader unless he recants from his Global Warming faith or the theory is dismissed. Malcolm retaking the leadership of the Libs makes as much sense as Rudd retaking the Labor leadership…none whatsoever!

  20. Paul Keating identifies the media’s drop of standards, and the free ride given to Abbott. Comparing the government’s emissions reduction legislation to Abbott’s, he says..

    …the Abbott policy, is just – is bunkum.

    But, by the way, what’s the media doing about this? What about that sleepy press gallery of ours? What are they … ? I mean, is there no premium on quality? Is there no premium on good public policy anymore? Do they just say, “Oh, he said that and then she said this. And they said this and we said that.” You know, where is the quality of the national debate and why isn’t Abbott being flogged by the media for this position?

    Lateline, Their ABC, 14 July 2011
    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2011/s3269932.htm

  21. NO election has EVER been decided this far out (over 12 months). Howard polled very badly mid-term and he went on to win elections. Polls are just polls. There is only one that count and that will be in the summer of 2013.

  22. Iain, as a matter of fact I do believe that Bernie Banton should be treated like a saint. Bernie had dragged himself out of his bed to present a petition to have a mesothelioma drug placed on the PBS. Abbott labelled this a stunt and that Bernie was not pure of heart. There was no need for Abbott to launch into a personal attack but could have accepted the petition with good graces..but that’s not Abbott is it.

  23. Morning Min. Gillard’s problem is, to use an AFL term,she just does not read the game. She is always out of position, doesn’t pass the ball and under pressure picks the wrong goal to kick to.
    Yes gillard is a female but first and foremost she is a political clusterfuck.

  24. The next election is summer, 2013? Must mean the DD election after the next which can not be held later than the last day of spring, 2013.

  25. Tweed, nonsensical garbage…

    Scaper, there will be no DD election until Abbott gets in and then I think that he’ll whimp out. Abbott has proven himself to have the intestinal fortitude of a flea.

  26. Migs et al
    The choice for the Libs is who can they, resurrect/do a lazarus/face lift, like Joan Rivers, that can appeal to the majority of the voters.
    The usual suspects are such dross that the selection has such possibilities to look beyond the current incumbants sitting on the opposition benches in both houses. None come to mind but if one did I would not give them an inkling.

    Any help given to the noalition in this their hour/year of need would have me expelled from the human race. A real poll took place in Melbourne and the result did not suit the current MSM agenda so it is played down/ignored/sleep walking public/what do they know.
    IMHO the polls are being manipulated, by the avalanche of “news” against the government and Julia in particular and then low up appears the usual poll results. Imagine a week of good news or two of the governments policies etc then have a poll would it be different??.

    Tone’s is away so we are free of brain farts, so open to page 101 another Rudd ressurection story, suitable bootstrapped as per Bushfire Bills predictions. So where are the noalition supporters to say how good Tone’s is, precious few in numbers he is just the filler in my window frame until I get some real glass installed.

  27. For all the hot air and bull that has been aimed at Gillard she has managed to steer Australia through a very rough patch and deliver a very healthy economy. That cannot be denied as it is a fact. I for one am thankful that we are taking small steps towards making if possible for alternative energies to be given a leg up. Abbott’s popularity, or lack of doesn’t seem to be a problem for those espousing that Gillard’s popularity is a reason to ditch her?

  28. Imagine a week of good news or two of the governments policies etc then have a poll would it be different??.

    We would have entered the Twilight Zone. Labor will never get positive reporting from the press gallery. They have nailed their chosen candidate to the mast, and are too proud/stupid to change their course now.

    Labor need to just keep on getting themselves out there, face to face with the people. It is when they do this, that the voters have a change of heart. They get Labors message unhindered by the slant the media put on it.

    When the media talk just policies, Labor (or their policies at least) come out with glowing praise. However, examination of policies always are mixed with the constant background of instability and the ever present ‘she lied’ meme.

    Use the media like Shorten did, with contempt (as highlighted in the media thread). Talk directly to the voters, not the reporters. They have an agenda, Labor just need to expose this, in order to cut through it.

    And ffs, ignore tabot. He gets enough air without Labor MP’s constantly referring back to him as well.

  29. Australians are being influenced by the media because they are too dumb to think for themselves

    No, they are being influenced by constantly negative, inaccurate portrayals of an inept Government. People who are not engaged, and who get their daily dose of politics through an agenda driven prism, are going to influenced by that prism. They have to, as it is all they see.

    Scratch below the surface, and you get a different view.

    You, on the other hand, just appear to want to call them stupid.

  30. You’re right, Tom, If the media talked “policy” the lousy Liberals would be washed up like a shag on the rock. So rather than see/make that happen to their favoured party, the media talk about anything BUT policy…In the same way that Liberal followers avoid saying why Abbott would be a “good Prime Minister” and instead talk about anything else.

  31. No Tommy, it is people like you who think Australians are stupid because they do not share your love for the Labor Party…the 28%.

    But you have friends on the far right who refer to people who don’t share the love of the Libs as sheeple!

    Just as well that the rusted ones have no real say at elections…flacid comes to mind.

  32. No, scaper, that is not what is being said. What is being said they are making decisions on what they read in the media. They are failing to see that much is misinformation.

    That is not saying they are dumb. The truth is that not many take an interest in politics as many do here.

    Yes, the proof is in the eating. Somethings that look good, can leave one with a great big bellyache.

    I hope that after the release of the Temby report yesterday, that many like wixxy are given an apology. It seems that Ms. Jackson is far from a saint. I agree with Min, I believe Bernie was.

    Still waiting for all that information that will remove the fear of having Mr. Abbott as PM.

    Mr. Turnbull is accusing the ABC of bias because they support the NBN Co. Now that is one for the books.

    If one wants to see how the Liberals shine, I suggest they look at Mr. Pyne’s effort last night on QandA. It is a change to have some Liberal policy to discuss.

    Then policy is the last thing that many contributors to this site wants to discuss, Would much rather spend their time lecturing and telling one they are wrong.

    Lecturing never changed anyone’s perceptions, if that is what their agenda is. Lecturing just turns people off.

    As AG Roxon said last night, it is not about cost, it is not about not having the money, it is about setting priorities. Education needs to be on the top of that list of priorities.

    Do we need the expense of eight new naval boats to deal with the boat trade. Surely there are much cheaper options. If we let all of them in, it would be cheaper for the nation. The nation would benefited from their labour.

    I am not saying that this is what we should do,, it is not. What I am saying what the Libs are suggestion is rubbish.

    Once again, please tell us why we should elect Mr. Abbott. The sins of the PM have been well documented. Repeating them is becoming a little boring, and senseless.

  33. it is people like you who think Australians are stupid

    I just specifically highlighted that that is NOT what I said, and yet you come back with a circle jerk.

    Talk about insensible

  34. “I suggest they look at Mr. Pyne’s effort last night on QandA.”

    Apart from him being rude and obnoxious, having to be pulled up by Jones, who rarely pulls up a conservative on Q&A, as one Tweet stated, “Pyne was 20% of the panel yet took 40% of the talk time.”

    It’s worse when Bishop is on as she takes over 50% of the talk time, constantly talking over others whilst reprimanding others for talking over her when they are doing no such thing.

  35. Cu, why should I try to convince anybody how to vote? This government has made a convincing case of their own to vote for the coalition judging by the polls that have and will not move.

    I’ll say it again…”I’m no fan of Abbott”.

  36. Scaper and I see, Australians are being influenced by the media because they are too dumb to think for themselves…so says the 28%, lol.

    Yes I know of the eye rolling about blame the media. But let’s say..if you are presented with X information but that in order to make an informed opinion you need X, Y and Z information but are denied Y and Z..then how can you make an informed opinion.

    The msm is denying people the right to make an informed opinion via their selective presentation of facts – via their blurring of fact and opinion.

  37. How many times have I read on blogs…”I am a Labor voter but can’t stand Gillard”?

    But when you ask them to enunciate a reason, you get the Liealot stare, head shake and silence, because if they gave it any real thought, they’d have to admit to being led by the nose by the Murdochracy.

    We will once again control who comes to this country and the manner in which they come.

    Yeah, of course you will. Just like the Rodent. Don’t forget IF Liealot gets in, he won’t have control of the Senate AND the High Court decision will still stand.

    Further to that, the earliest he’d be able to call a DD would be 2015 and there’s no guarantee that he’d get the result he’d want. Assuming he would still be PM after all the effort he’d put into trashing our reputation internationally and after putting the finishing touches to ruining our reputation in Indonesia.

    You also choose to overlook Liealot’s dismal track record in the Rodentochracy. He has form and it’s very bad. Closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting lalalala will avail you nothing.

    Liealot was a total and unmitigated disaster in the Health portfolio and in every other policy area.

    Remember his magnificent showing in the health debate? He should have been a shoe in, but what happened-a total flop and in a debate on a portfolio he held for several years in the Rodent government.

    And so far his most magnificent performance is trying to run away from a vote!

    And then there’s his well documented record for mendacity, dishonesty and bullying.

    Yeah, we’re just being mean ‘cos he’s been such a success at everything he’s touched. Well, I suppose he did succeed in having Hanson jailed.

  38. The msm is denying people the right to make an informed opinion via their selective presentation of facts – via their blurring of fact and opinion.

    Min, I dispute your contention that there are any facts contained in msm reports wrt the PM or government policy. 😀

  39. I’ll say it again…”I’m no fan of Abbott”.

    So, playing by your rules, why is you like tabot so much? 😯

  40. It works OK but inane childish names like ‘Juliar’ takes the prize as the most pathetic thus far.

    Gee, the left can’t take a trick these days.

  41. Newman must be taking lessons on trashing the economy while o/s, for the qlder Newman, leaving qld to attend COAG is o/s and trashing his own states economy, is fine by him.

    Today on News24 at midday, Newman called a presser to talk about why he wasn’t putting any money into the NDIS pilot scheme. Apparently Queensland is bankrupt.
    I wonder when Qld has its next financial rating? I wonder if his mates in business will enjoy the higher rates of interest.

  42. I don’t see why Julia Gillard get so much hate. She is doing a good job in very difficult situation and no one looks at that in the media. It is very difficult for women to be recognised in their managment skills and jobs, being a leader of the country is a huge job, and she is doing well. But not perfectly.

  43. Thing is Sue Newman is basing the whole Queensland bankrupt furphy on very dodgy figures manufactured by none other than Peter Costello.

    And if Queensland were really bankrupt then the whole government should be stood down and the Federal government take over.

    Fekkin’ Liberals just lie through the teeth constantly whilst running around calling everyone else liars.

    Now people are seeing what happens when you put these feckless foxes in charge of the hen house, chaos and destruction.

  44. Sue, Mobius,

    So the Liberals can now use that as an excuse to not pay into disability for workers, as well as send tens of thousands to the unemployment line.

    …While they simultaneously demonise “welfare bludgers” and spin the preposterous claim that they’re the “best friend the workers ever had”.

    The hypocrisy is so thick you could walk across it.

  45. It’s a pleasure to post a link which has no connection to the Institute of Public Affairs, or the Liberal spruiker, Peter Reith, on The Drum

    Abbott can’t escape the spectre of WorkChoices
    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4150522.html

    The business lobby and right-wing thinktanks are furiously making the case that the legendary IR ‘pendulum’ has swung too far towards unions and workers, his backbench has created its own ginger group, while former luminaries like Peter Reith continue to pump out columns on the sad state of our industrial relations laws.

    They are all very careful with their language. It’s about ‘productivity’, ‘flexibility’ and ‘efficiency’, but for most people what that translates to is a return to WorkChoices.

  46. Cuppa.

    A good example of Liberal hypocrisy were Howard’s battlers. He played up to the mortgage belt, scaremongering as is the norm for the Liberals, that only he could deliver low interest rates at a time most households were under mortgage stress and the world’s highest personal debt encouraged by Howard.

    Howard’s battlers delivered the most unpaid overtime in the developed world along with taking the least amount of owed holidays and time off. It can be successfully argued it was the battlers, and a long sustained period of global economic growth started under Keating, that gave Howard the economy he keeps attributing to himself.

    Howard rewarded them by kicking them in the teeth in WorkChoices.

    To think Abbott will be any different is to be ignorant or ideologically blinded. To believe Abbott will be much worse is to be enlightened.

  47. Cu, EricA will dine out on this one for years !
    He managed to include Craig Thomson in his comments by way of “Williamson was Thomson’s mentor”.

    Unfortunately Mr. Abetz forgot to mention this:-

    Suspended Labor MP Craig Thomson’s name is only mentioned a few times, and the report points out that “many see him as the protégé of Michael Williamson”.

    .

    http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/2012-07-23/temby-report-reveals-depth-of-hsu-east-quagmire/985076

  48. It really doesn’t matter how many times that Thomson’s name is implicated, quantity is not an issue. Full marks to our mate wixxy. I guess that the Darling Harbour mob don’t do such a bad job after all.

  49. More Newman or Newman up fot taking Tony’s job

    time to look at the unemployment in qld for the under 30s it must be near 25%

    ‘Queensland Premier Campbell Newman insists the state has no extra money to spend on disability services, as to do so would push its debt towards that of Spain.’

    I’m saying that if we fail to act in a way that we are that Queensland would ultimately be the Spain of Australian states

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/newman-fears-state-debt-like-spain-20120724-22md3.html#ixzz21Vlr0BMi

  50. Ms. Jackson has appeared today. Hearing next month. Is now after Shorten.

    Ms. Jackson did not get her way to get the present administrator suspended.

    Ms. Jackson is funding her own action.

    Abetz must think that we are fools. The release of the report is as scathing of Ms. Jackson as anyone else. What role did she play.

    All allegations came from her.

  51. How many times have I read on blogs…”I am a Labor voter but can’t stand Gillard”?

    Scaper, I’m not denying that either. But the difference is that it’s only on the social media will you see public scrutiny of Abbott, which is a point I’ve been labouring for over 12 months.

    I’m fed up to the eyeballs with the media headlining that Julia Gillard isn’t overly popular while toxic Tony’s low approval is just a byline, if that.

  52. Cu, last week there was a report that Jackson’s partner the FWA V-P, Mr. Lawler was funding her legal action… whatever happened to the pro bono fellas from the HR Nicholls Society??

    http://www.vexnews.com/2012/07/greedy-obscene-hsu-salaries-approved-in-review-by-kathy-jacksons-mate-beth-jensen/

    Also notable was Jackson’s admission that Fair Work Australia Vice-President Michael Lawler, a former Opus Dei member who had a spectacular mid-life crisis before hooking up with Kathy Jackson, who is paid $8,000 per week by taxpayers, is funding her litigation to appeal the Federal Court decision to terminate her from one of the highest paying salaries in the history of Australian unionism and appoint an Administrator to restructure and clean up the epic corruption she left behind.

  53. Min @ 2.27pm, this doesn’t give Abetz and company much to go on, and you can be very certain that EricA won’t be reading wixxy’s posts!

    “many see him as the protégé of Michael Williamson”.

  54. Migs, it was your exact statements which encouraged me to write latest. It’s probably only half of the story, but I hope that it’s ok…

  55. Pip, after talking to wixxy this morning, I don’t think that he much cares. One of the nicest people you would care to meet.

  56. Well I hope it is not Pyne. Taking Abbott’s job I mean.

    According to Christopher Pyne, the nation’s worst performing teachers all loiter around our most disadvantaged schools. What a coincidence! Jane Caro on why equity in education matters

    According to the shadow minister for education, Christopher Pyne, something remarkable is going on in Australia’s schools. Apparently, through some astonishing quirk, all the worst teachers have ended up in the schools with the kids from the most disadvantaged backgrounds!

    and

    However, from his Lateline appearance this week, it seems Christopher Pyne may not understand what equity actually is. He may have been sick the day St Ignatius Adelaide explained the basic democratic principle that all people are created equal, even if their circumstances are not; the more equitable a society, the smaller the gaps between the rich and poor.

    http://newmatilda.com/2012/07/20/pyne-easy-target-schools

  57. Not so, scaper. You might remember that the media was kicking Rudd from the moment he gave his “Fork in the Road” speech after elected leader of the opposition. They totally bagged him.

  58. Cu, Pyne as always is talking the crappy substance. Worst teachers in the worst schools? Well thank you so much Prissy for your appreciation of teachers who apply to teach in the difficult schools rather than swanning it around on the north shore.

  59. My first school was Burnley Primary where we had 60% non English speaking. You had to be innovative or die.. Worst school? Yes it probably would have been categorised as this. Best kids..most definitely.

  60. “Migs, I would say that Abbott gets less attention because he is not the PM”

    I hate that cop out as it reeks of the double standard it is.

    When Labor were in opposition, from Beazley to Rudd, but especially Rudd, were put through the griller and “held to account” as they were the “alternate PM” the party they led the “alternate government”.

    They were scrutinised so much and so much was demanded of them in opposition one political commentator at the time stated the opposition were being treated as though they were the government whilst the government (Howard’s) was being allowed to circumvent scrutiny.

    So how come now the shoe is on the other foot and we continuously here that as Abbott is not the PM he can do and say whatever he likes with impunity and never has to be held to account for being the “alternate PM”.

    And it double doesn’t hold to account for Abbott because he’s a shoe in for the next election so he should be scrutinised to the minutest detail so the people know what they are getting into.

    They need only look at the failures of the shoe State Liberal governments to see what happens when scrutiny isn’t applied to oppositions seeking to be the government.

  61. Migs, can’t actually recall the speech or the bagging at all. Remember the kerfuffle when Rudd went to the strip club…that failed badly.

    In fact it was a bonus.

  62. Mr. Abetz made a demand that the government needs to acknowledge what is in this report. I asked the same question of him. Once again he is cherry picking. There is little about Mt. Thomson. There is much about Ms. Jackson, which Mr. Abetz dismisses.

    Acting HSU national president Chris Brown says the report confirms what was widely suspected but not known for years.

    “What went on within that organisation by people like Michael Williamson, whether it’s criminal or not, is totally unacceptable,” Mr Brown said.

    “It’s immoral behaviour and there’s no place for that sort of behaviour within a union.”

    View the full Temby report in four parts: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 and Part 4
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-24/hsu-head-says-spending-allegations-are-obscene/4151124

  63. Migs, yes I remember you talking about that with me..it’s just that sometimes things do not make sense. It’s when things should, but then it doesn’t.

  64. Scaps, I seem to recall that you were well and truly clued in to the Scores thing, that it was a media method of bringing the Milky Bar Kid back down to earth.

  65. scaper, the Scores story was the pride and joy of Alexarnder Darner.

    I was watching the HoR when he walked past the microphone and very ostentatiously declared, “if you knew what I know….” Not long afterwards the Scores “scandal” was in the headlines….

    Trouble for Alex was that nobody cared

  66. The president of the ACTU, Ged Kearney, says while the revelations in the report are highly disturbing, they do not reflect problems in the broader union movement.

    “Of course the punishment should match the wrongdoings, but I’m not a legal expert to actually say what those are,” she said.

    “Just like we can never guarantee that every CEO of every bank is never going to have any amount of wrongdoings in their organisation.

    “I can’t guarantee that that will never happen with unions, that would be naïve of me to do that, but I do know that by and large, unions are accountable, that there are very strong laws that rule the accountability of unions and the transparency and their operations and that unions do abide by that.”

    A panel set up by the ACTU to look at governance in unions will deliver its first report to the executive tomorrow.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-24/hsu-head-says-spending-allegations-are-obscene/4151124

  67. Got the text of Abbott’s address to AUSCHAM an hour or so ago. Reads like an election campaign speech to me. Will be interesting to see what the media make of it tomorrow.

  68. Will be interesting to see what the media make of it tomorrow.

    They’ll be providing the ticker tape for him 😉

  69. Yes, it will be another great speech from Abbott.

    Don’t expect any valid precis or deconstruction.

  70. FFS – just post a link to it. Anyone who’s interested enough can read it for themselves!:

  71. Perhaps union bashers need reminding who was responsible for the GFC and who, when bailed out by the Obama administration, promptly spent the money on nice new shiny personal Lear jets for themselves.

    OT, but I’ve just seen a tv program about a megastructure in China, which has incorporated wind generators and solar panels into the structure, making it the most energy efficient building in the world.

    The wind turbines are not the conventional windmills, but have a vertical blade curved around a central post to stop vibration. They are situated in two holes in the structure, which will reduce turbulence by 30%.

    China has also overtaken the US as the largest producer of CO2 emissions in the world, but it is also the biggest investor in green energy and looks to reduce its CO2 emissions as a consequence.

    I wonder if Liealot will give the Chinese the benefit of his experience and advice about the stupidity of green energy and efforts to reduce CO2 emissions. Another triumph of Liars Party diplomacy!

  72. The report clearly called for further investigation perhaps by an organisation with powers of a royal commission, Senator Abetz said.

    He sought to link suspended Labor MP Craig Thomson, a former national secretary of the HSU, to Mr Williamson describing them as ‘two peas in a pod’.

    Senator Abetz applauded Mr Thomson’s successor as national secretary, Kathy Jackson, for her role in the Temby inquiry.

    ‘It took a lot of guts to expose something like that,’ he said.

    But Ms Jackson would have to explain what she knew and didn’t know about the wholesale and endemic corruption in the HSU, Senator Abetz said.

    The coalition has vowed to increase penalties for union officials, saying they should face similar fines as company executives if found to have misused union funds.

    http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/07/24/Further_HSU_investigation_needed_-_Abetz_775377.html

    Now Abetz could be correct. there is need for further inquiry. What is needed is the role that the Coalition has played in this dirty saga.

  73. An appeal by union boss Kathy Jackson against a court decision to place the Health Services Union East branch into administration has been expedited and is likely to be heard next month.
    Ms Jackson wants the full Federal Court to review last month’s decision to appoint retired judge Michael Moore as administrator of both the state union, HSUeast, and the federal organisation, HSU East branch, arguing the judge was biased and she should not have been sacked.
    Under the administration scheme, all offices are vacated, the union is to be demerged to one NSW-based and two Victorian-based branches and fresh elections will be held.
    Federal Court Justice Geoffrey Flick found Ms Jackson should not keep her position as executive president of the state union, along with her $270,000 a year salary, because “she is very much at the epicentre of the dispute”.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/union-in-crisis-hsu-hearing-expedited-20120724-22m7m.html#ixzz21WKPXjRJ

  74. An appeal by union boss Kathy Jackson against a court decision to place the Health Services Union East branch into administration has been expedited and is likely to be heard next month.

    Ms Jackson wants the full Federal Court to review last month’s decision to appoint retired judge Michael Moore as administrator of both the state union, HSUeast, and the federal organisation, HSU East branch, arguing the judge was biased and she should not have been sacked.

    Under the administration scheme, all offices are vacated, the union is to be demerged to one NSW-based and two Victorian-based branches and fresh elections will be held.

    Federal Court Justice Geoffrey Flick found Ms Jackson should not keep her position as executive president of the state union, along with her $270,000 a year salary, because “she is very much at the epicentre of the dispute”.

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    In a notice of appeal, Ms Jackson claimed that during the hearing Justice Flick said he would not make findings or apportion blame for the dysfunction in the HSU East.

    But in his judgment he held Ms Jackson partly responsible. This was a breach of the hearing regime all parties had agreed to, a denial of procedural fairness and constituted apprehended bias, Ms Jackson said.

    Ms Jackson, who says she is self-funding the appeal, has asked the court to appoint her preferred administrator, Jeffrey Phillips, SC, in place of Mr Moore. She wants her position to be reinstated as well as that of all Victorian-based officials, bar Stuart Miller, an HSU organiser expected to lead a reform team in the Victoria No.1 branch elections.

    Ms Jackson also wants the appeals court to accept her affidavit containing further allegations against other HSU officials. She claims Justice Flick pressured her into withdrawing the affidavit during the original hearing.

    In the Federal Court this morning, Justice Richard Edmonds ordered the appeal hearing be expedited and indicated it could occur next month.

    Outside the court, Ms Jackson said she was pleased the appeal had been expedited and reiterated her determination to have the allegations contained in her affidavit heard in court.

    “My case hasn’t been heard and I welcome the judges and the other parties’ agreement that I will be getting an expedited hearing on the matters,” she said.

    “I want that affidavit read I want my evidence tendered and I want to make sure the members know out there what’s occured in this sorry saga.”

    While she could not go into the details in the affidavit, she confirmed claims were made against the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Bill Shorten.

    “Generally its about the involvement of the Minister and others, might I add, in the HSU internal politics. The HSU could have sorted this out internally but instead the Minister took this action to stop us getting our own resolution… when we were in fact on the cusp of reaching a conclusion and if you read the Temby report, Mr Temby makes it quite clear in his report that the general reps don’t get a vote on the council and that’s what was at the heart of the matter.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/union-in-crisis-hsu-hearing-expedited-20120724-22m7m.html#ixzz21WKqX2Ou

  75. All Ms. Jackson is worried about is launching a campaign to get re-elected.

    There is nothing new in the releases, except for the role Ms. Jackson has played.

  76. “Modern Australia is an immigrant society to which Chinese people have been coming almost since thearrival of the First Fleet in 1788.It seems that the first Chinese person to arrive in the then-colony of New South Wales was Ahuto, acarpenter, who came as a free settler in 1803.
    The founder of Australia’s wool industry, John Macarthur, employed several Chinese.
    The first Chinese to achieve some prominence was Mak Sai Ying who became publican of the Lion Inn inParramatta in 1829.
    Thousands of Chinese joined the gold rushes from the 1850s, feeding Australia’s first resources boom.
    By the time the six colonies formed a new Commonwealth, at the turn of the last century, more than 100,000Chinese had come to Australia.By then, though, the gold had dwindled. Many”

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/100894212/Tony-Abbott-speech-in-China

    I wonder if he told them what happened to their pigtails on the gold fields of Young and many other places.

    Did he explain why they did not move out

    Usual white wash of history by the Liberals.

  77. … and Howard’s racist remarks, about Asians, that lost him an election.

    Selective memory is a common complaint among many, especially on the right.

  78. Jackson claimed, bringing her children into it once again, that one of her children playing on the computer must have accidentally sent it out. This was not to be confused with contempt of court, oh no… Apparently this kind of thing happens all the time. Kiddies get into their mummies email, stumble on files that are suppressed by Federal Court, accidentally attach them to emails, and then somehow manage, to quite by chance, stumble on to journalists names in the email address book, and accidentally email them to these journalists… Like I said, it happens all the time. But only in Jacksonville.

    http://wixxy.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/dirty-old-town/#comments

  79. But Government frontbencher Bill Shorten questioned Mr Abbott’s comments on government-owned companies investing in Australia.

    He said Australia had a long history of foreign investment and decisions should be made on a case-by-case basis.

    “In the past we’ve had British nobility, Lord Vestey owned most of the northern pastoral stations in Australia,” he said.

    “I can’t believe Mr Abbott’s saying it’s OK for British royalty to invest in Australia but somehow government-owned enterprises elsewhere it’s not OK.

    “We’ve got to look at the bid, not on the identity of the person who’s making the proposition, but is the proposition in the Australian interest.”

    Opposition frontbencher Christopher Pyne says it is perfectly sensible for the Coalition to warn China that its government-owned companies might not be allowed to buy Australian businesses.

    He said Mr Abbott was making the point that any investment by Chinese government-owned companies would be carefully scrutinised.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-24/abbott-warns-about-chinese-investment/4151560

    Yes, we have to put those Chinese in their place. I am letting them know who is boss now, so they do not get the wrong message.

    Same to those nearer to us, the Indonesians. They will do what I tell them, you see.

  80. Miglo
    Earlier re Erica Betz
    My personal favourite descriptor is “unctuous”. My personal utterances are invariably more scatalogical. There’s something about him….. But there’s something about all of them. Each one in desperate need of the same massaging & support Abbott receives & relies on.

  81. I see the states are going to raise the Gonski funding report at the meeting with Gillard. I see another wedge looming for Gillard over education. She will get wedged with the Looney Left Teachers Unions.
    I said to Min the other day. Gillard just does not read the game.

  82. What wedge, Tweed? As usual you dingbats fire indiscriminately hoping to hit a target. They can raise the Gonski Report as is their right, and without doubt the PM expects the to do so.

    The Teachers Unions will be interested in the outcome of the talks; after all it affects their members, but it’s the dingbat state governments which will be in their sights.

    They’re the ones determined to to wreck the public education system in this country and return it to the 18th century, as is the intention of the Liars Party at federal level.

    So the only wedge will be the one the dingbat state governments make for themselves. I’m sure the PM will be only too happy to pull it as tight as she can.

    Like the dingbat wrecking ball o/s atm, wrecking our relationships with everyone he can except the Hitler Youth. I notice he was a big hit with the loonies in the Tea Party. I doubt he’ll be flavour of the month with the Chinese.

    That’ll be another mammoth task for Bob Carr, to restore the work of years, that the idiot has trashed within 5 minutes of opening his big fat yap.

    Once again, nice try but no cigar. Will you need a wet cloth to wipe the egg off your face?

  83. Jane. Shooting the messenger doesn’t change the facts. Gillard is again promising what she can’t deliver. She is wedged with the Looney Teachers Union, making promises but has no cash.

  84. bit of a chuckle over a troll using the “loony ” perjorative against teachers union.

    what mob is it advocating the teaching of myths like agw denial and so-called “intelligent” design as science ?

    bit more projection going on, i see

  85. …bit more projection going on, i see

    It’s what they do best, just ahead of lying and scaremongering.

  86. Well Miglo if it has made news.com then it must totally definitely be news 😛

    But seriously it’s interesting to see this kind of thing pop up and would have to make Tony pay attention to what’s happening in his own electorate. If he’s too complacent he might find himself without a seat after the next election; or at the very least with a seat on a very heavily reduced margin.

  87. Good luck trying to oust Abbott, last election he got around 54% of the primary and around 59% on the two party vote.

    Had a laugh at the News link…Turnbull or Hockey as the leader? I suppose you lot never heard about the affair Turnbull had around five years ago? At least he kept it in the family, so to speak.

  88. Migs, I only hand out cigars to those who have earned them. Trolls and dingbats just don’t qualify, I’m afraid. It’s a mendacity issue. lol

    Tweed @11.30am, I think you’re confusing the federal government with Liars Party state governments like the no hopers in QLD, which are crying poor mouth. Gillard has not said there are insufficient funds in the bank.

    In fact, the feds have said that their response to Gonski will be released later this year. So much for your fantasy wrt wedges and Teacher Unions, with or without sour cream and/or chilli sauce.

    Like other dingbat commenters on this blog, you should really take the time to check the FACTS and not rely on the bullshit emanating from Menzies House or in your Liars Party handbook. Neither source is ever accurate.

    As always, nice try, but no cigar!

    Lol, pterosaur1 @1.22pm. As I suspected, he dwells under bridges. 😆 😆 😆

    Alex @1.35pm & @4.36pm, couldn’t happen to a nicer person. The major problem for the Liars is that they’ve got noone worth a pinch of sh!t to replace him.

    scaper, should we care if Turnbull had an affair and with whom? More the sort of stuff the Liars revel in and spruik everywhere, isn’t it? 😕

    Porkies wrt Liealot, scaper. The Liars Party got 30.16% of first preferences to the ALP’s 37.99% of first preferences-somewhat lower than the 54% you’ve spruiked and which would have been more than enough for him to have formed government with a very good majority.

    Even with the Nats pathetic 3.73% and the Queensland LNP of 9.12%, it only gave the Liars 43.31% of the primnary vote. And on 2PP, it was ALP 50.12%, Liars 49.88%.

    A teensy error of 10% on both primary and 2PP, scaper. Aren’t we lucky you’re not in Treasury or Stats? I trust you don’t make the same mistakes with your clients.

    http://results.aec.gov.au/15508/Website/HouseStateFirstPrefsByParty-15508-NAT.htm

  89. “Gillard is again promising what she can’t deliver.”

    Liberal words we have been heating all day. Along with it is cruel of the PM to raise expectations of such vulnerable people. (or words to that effect).

    The question I ask, is why are not the needs of these people be met.

    Also, that the Federal government be responsible for all the cost of any NDIS was only one of the recommendations. There alternative methods of funding put forward.

    The present system does not meet the needs of these people. Is inequitable and wasteful.

  90. I have no idea who could take his job, but I do hope it is before he leaves our shores again.
    Sorry, it is Bolt’s site.

    Abbott tells China to grow up

    At a business breakfast meeting in Beijing yesterday, Mr Abbott repeatedly reminded Chinese leaders that change in the country’s political system had failed to keep pace with its “remarkable” economic transformation.

    He said Chinese people still could not choose their government… ‘’As prime minister I would hope for political reform to match China’s economic liberalisation,’’ he said.

    And:

    His hosts repeatedly raised questions about the treatment of Chinese investment in Australia and are unlikely to be pleased by Mr Abbott’s unveiling yesterday of a tough new test, should he win government. “It would rarely be in Australia’s interests to allow a foreign government or its agencies to control an Australian business,” he said, noting that Chinese investment was dominated by state-owned enterprises.

    “That’s because we don’t support the nationalisation of businesses by the Australian government, let alone a foreign one.”

    This visit was symbolically important – a gesture that Kevin Rudd made, too:

    Mr Abbott’s visit began on Sunday morning with a private and emotional visit to a government-sanctioned Catholic church.

    China is keen to get his measure:

    On Monday he was feted like a prime minister-in-waiting and given an audience with several high-powered leaders.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/abbott_tells_china_to_grow_up/

    Feted was he. Maybe minor official do count. I understand that all of any account were holidaying.

  91. Avoiding gratuitous public advice … Tony Abbott at a meeting with Jia Qinglin, a senior member of the Chinese government. Photo: Sanghee Liu

    China accounts for a quarter of Australian exports and has single-handedly underwritten the greatest economic boom in more than a century.
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    At a business breakfast meeting in Beijing yesterday, Mr Abbott repeatedly reminded Chinese leaders that change in the country’s political system had failed to keep pace with its “remarkable” economic transformation.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-talks-tough-during-china-visit-20120724-22nkw.html#ixzz21ckiqhJ7

  92. Looks like Peta had better invent some new slogans. Not too many, Liealot’s not capable of remembering more that 2 or 3.

  93. I thought this one outdid the one of him standing over the man when he shook hands.

    Give me the PM’s big backside any day.

  94. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-25/carr-attacks-dangerously-dumb-abbott-speech/4155244

    Foreign Minister Bob Carr says Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has made some “dangerously dumb” comments about Chinese investment.

    Mr Abbott said on Tuesday that foreign governments should rarely own or control Australian companies.

    He said it would “rarely be in Australia’s interest”, despite many Chinese companies having some form of state control.

    Senator Carr told Lateline on Wednesday night the comments are dangerously adversarial and could offend other Asian countries.

    “It disturbs me that he is making in three or four of the things he said about China what can only be seen and what will be seen by them I think as an adversarial approach with China and I think that is reckless,” he said.

    “I think it is really dangerously dumb for this country’s interest.”

    He says Mr Abbott is trying to change the rules and moving towards a “blanket prohibition” of Chinese investment by state-owned companies.

    “Now that is crazy,” Senator Carr said.

    “You’ve got farm communities of Australia that are guaranteed prosperity because Chinese urbanisation has seen people buy their food stuff from supermarkets stocked with Australian produce.

    For Tony Abbott to start talking that language sends a shocking message of retreat about Australia – that we’re now seeking security from Asia, that we’re going back to a view so dated of Australia’s role.

    Foreign Minister Bob Carr
    “You’ve got 5,000 mining jobs in Australia directly dependent on Chinese investment.”

    Mr Carr says Mr Abbott’s comments are outdated.

    “For Tony Abbott to start talking that language sends a shocking message of retreat about Australia – that we’re now seeking security from Asia, that we’re going back to a view so dated of Australia’s role, it’s more conservative than John Howard’s,” he said.

    Federal frontbencher Bill Shorten has also questioned Mr Abbott’s stance.

    He says Australia has a long history of foreign investment and decisions should be made on a case-by-case basis.

    “In the past we’ve had British nobility, Lord Vestey owned most of the northern pastoral stations in Australia,” he said.

    “I can’t believe Mr Abbott’s saying it’s OK for British royalty to invest in Australia but somehow government-owned enterprises elsewhere it’s not OK.

    “We’ve got to look at the bid, not on the identity of the person who’s making the proposition, but is the proposition in the Australian interest.”

    The Opposition, however, says Mr Abbott was merely making the point that any investment by Chinese government-owned companies should be carefully scrutinised.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-26/carr-ridicules-abbott-for-27dangerously-dumb27-comments/4155228

  95. Good morning Cu. 🙂

    I saw the Bob Carr interview on Lateline and it was pleasing to see Tony Jones not having things all his way for a change.

    When he described Tony Abbott’s comments he made it very plain to viewers, what we’ve been saying for some time, that Abbott is going to cause more trouble than he could imagine now, if he ever becomes the Prime Minister

  96. Pip, I do not believe that Abbott would be around long, if the Coalition got into power, The same goes for his frontbench,

    His job is to get near or over the line.

    I say this, because I believe we are correct in our assessment of him. There are not to many standing beside him. One would find it hard to identify more that 5 or 6 of the shadow front bench or the shadow cabinet.

    We have Judi Moylan turning up on the advisory panel for cutting through the deadlock on asylum seekers.

    This scares the daylight out of me. If the polls are true, it would mean voting in government blind. One that has made no promises to break. The Queensland and Newman pushed the system to the limit.

    I believe that the PM won out in 7.30 PM. I think the PM is out in front on NDIS. There was a faltering attempt to label her with the blame, when it was suggested that to get cooperation she should have put it all up front. Faltered out quickly. Mainly because what they have been asked for is a tiny amount. What they gain is much more.

    I believe the PM is now putting in place the agenda for the next election. It will be her agenda, not Abbott’s/

    The dominoes are falling. Falling Labors way. As much as they tried to paint today as a failure for the PM, ir did not work.

    On 7.30 the PM introduction was of the PM’s woes. First mentioned the her leadership problems. What problems. Because the media and the Opposition say so, does not make it true.

    Then the NDIS failure. What failure, it is being launched. Then I am sure I heard correctly, the low inflation figures.

    Little about Mr. Abbott and his disastrous overseas adventures, which by the way is taking ten days. No jet lag problem there.

    I believe that he was got out of the country as this was the only way he could not continue his daily toxic carbon tax campaign.

    By the way, today one of the refrigeration gas firms found themselves in big trouble for false information the carbon tax,

    He did promise to be out EVERY day for six weeks until Parliament resumes. Nothing about overseas trips of ten days then. He said every day more than once.

  97. Pip, what Mr. Abbott forgets, is that today we operate in a global economy.

    Is he going to stop other Asian governments from investing.

    I believe the Singapore governments have investments here.

  98. Brandis legal advice was once again wrong. He gave advice that Hicks was not entitled to the income from his book. He claimed it was from the proceeds of crime.

    Problem is the conviction. When one sets up an unjust system and moves outside accept legal procedures, there is no chance of a conviction.

    This means the guilty could walk free,

    Some might not like what he did, but at the time he broke no Australian law.

    Australians for generations have gone to fight in other countries wars.

  99. CU. I think every Australian believes the NDIS is a worthy policy. Where gillard puts her foot in it is she announces “reform” without getting the agreement of the key stakeholders i.e. the States. NSW are repairing the financial mess left by NSW Labor and The Twin Tools Beattie and Bligh in Queensland. I applaud the states for making gillard face up to her woeful funding options for NDIS (and Gonski).
    Swannie has handcuffed the government to a surplus which he will never achieve. CU there is no funding. gillard has racked up $220 Billion on the Fed AMEX Card. She has to go cap in hand to Abbott at the next session to raise the limit on the Fed AMEX credit card to $300 Billion (I remember back when Costello used an EFTPOS DEBIT card to run pay the bills.).
    I bet there are some raised voices behind closed doors Swannie saying to gillard “WTF did you do with all the cash.” gillard saying to swannie (WTF did you do with all the cash)
    Billions pissed up against the wall since 2007…… a maxed out AMEX CARD, election looming, polling at 28%, boats still coming, Craig in the wings, union rorting on the front page of every newspaper andallegations of gillard’s receipt of embezzled union funds from her corrupt squeeze just bubbling on the back burner and won’t go away.
    CU I have said before. gillard has been a clusterfuck.

  100. Tweed, what in the hell do you think the PM has been doing since it was announced. What is today about.

    It is funny, but I happened to believe the states need to come to the party, especially because they have more to gain.

    Please tell me why a female Pm should ne the onme that has to fall in with everyone else.

    As for the alleged debt. When Mr. Costello has to used dodgy accounting methods to get that result, sorry, I am not impressed. Neither are other experts.

    The threats of sacking does not impress me.

    It is not about money, it is about choices and priories.

    The money being asked is small, They get many more times back.

    Future funding is not for a couple of years.

    Tweed, di not be surprise if today, they have a change of heart,

    As for Gillard and debt, that is nonsense. There is no excessive debt under this government. There is no excessive spending. There is no excessive taxation.

    As for the abuse, it still does not change the facts.

    Things must be getting bad for the Gillard haters when they are returning to arguments that have been discredit over the last couple of years.

    Both Gonski and NDIS is essential for the future well being of the nation. Both have the backing of the productivity commission. Both will make the economy and address social needs that are not now being met. Both will lead to less inequality.

    Funny government this, it put the needs of the vulnerable first, before the wealthy. We cannot have that, can we.

    What you write is rubbish. Rubbish which you can no way prove.

    This will be the last I write on such dribble.

    Is this the hero that you want.

    This is how some see him.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/abbott-said-what-needed-to-be-said-about-china/story-e6frgd0x-1226435134225?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAustralianOpinion+%28The+Australian+%7C+Opinion%29

  101. I would love to hear the reaction of the Groups that run the Gympie Disability Services to the stance of no funds for a launch in their region by their Premier “Don’t Do Disabilities Campbell”

  102. CU @2.48am, I give you Optus.

    Tweed, the NDIS was announced and the players advised after the last election and funding of $1bn was announced in this year’s budget. So don’t give us that load of old flannel! Really, you are a complete reality and truth free zone.

    $220billion in an economy of trillions! 6% of GDP. Please go and peddle your bullshit to someone who will listen!

    QLD-Can Do must have a magic wand, because he’s been spruiking to o/s investors that they’ll have a AAA rating very shortly, while crying poormouth at home! Weeping into his beer that it will take centuries to get out of debt, they’ll all be rooned, they could be looking at a $4bn debt, woe is us!

    So who is he lying to? O/S investors or Queenslanders?

    When O’Farrell was elected, NSW had a surplus. And he’s broken god knows how many election promises, done sod all and squandered the surplus.

    Your entire comment underlines the fact that you have no idea what you’re gibbering on about, except that you’d get a catering company to frame a government budget.

    Your incoherent cobbled confection of lies and stupidity might get some traction with fellow ignoramuses, but won’t wash here.

    IF, and it’s a very big if, you EVER have any believable evidence to support your bullshit, let’s be having it! Until then, it might be wise not to show your ignorance up so much, unless you like copping egg wash.

    Oh and the facts are that ALP governments ALWAYS spend and tax less than Liars Party governments.

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