Julie Bishop and swipes

Julie Bishop, in an unusual turn of events has for once in a blue moon turned her attention away from perfecting the death stare and shopping for Armani suits, and decided to again make comment on her own portfolio.  Just in case any have forgotten, this is indeed our Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Previously when J. Bishop attempted this feat she was roundly castigated by her Indonesian counterpart who suggested that she was rather clueless.

Recent comes from the Herald Sun:

His deputy Julie Bishop said the Liberals would not provide a running commentary on its talks and negotiations.

“They will be held in private,” Ms Bishop said.

“We will do it quietly and diligently behind the scenes.”

Both took swipes at the federal government.

Ms Bishop accused it of damaging Australia’s relationship with Indonesia with its now-lifted ban on live cattle exports, while Mr Abbott said Ms Gillard had gone on the record to support the policy of turning asylum-seeker boats away in 2002.

Comment from Mobius Ecko:

In other words we will bullshit and lie about what Abbott says or does not say in those meetings, as Abbott lied about his last meeting and was caught out so we won’t let that happen again by keeping the public in the know.

We promise we will be a government of secrets and of keeping the people in the dark, just like we were under Howard, after all we are regurgitating all of Howard’s other policies as we don’t have an original neuron spark amongst, so we might was well take up his secrecy as well.

Over to you..

49 comments on “Julie Bishop and swipes

  1. Abbott-SBY didn’t discuss boats:Indon govt

    The coalition’s plan to turn back asylum-seeker boats was not discussed with Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during recent talks, a spokesman for the Indonesian president says.

    OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott repeatedly has refused to say if the plan was mentioned to Dr Yudhoyono during their meeting in Darwin last week.

    Teuku Faizasyah, the president’s spokesman for foreign issues, said Mr Abbott did not mention asylum-seeker boats.

    “The president’s meeting with Tony Abbott in Darwin last week was just a casual meeting,” he told AAP.

    “That issue was untouched between the two.”

    It was not talked about because the Liberal leader was not in charge of government policy and decisions, but the Indonesian government was discussing the issue with Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Mr Faizasyah said.

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/libs-boat-talks-with-indonesia-private/story-e6frfku9-1226421607117

  2. On the issue of finding solutions to problems..

    On 28 June 2012, the Prime Minister and the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship announced that the Government had invited Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston AC AFC (Ret’d), the former chief of Australia’s defence force, to lead an Expert panel (the panel) to provide a report on the best way forward for Australia to prevent asylum seekers risking their lives on dangerous boat journeys to Australia. The full transcript of the announcement is available on the Prime Minister’s website.

    The panel also includes Mr Paris Aristotle AM, the Director of the Victorian Foundation for Survivors of Torture Inc (also known as Foundation House) and Professor Michael L’Estrange AO, the Director of the National Security College at the Australian National University.

    The Terms of Reference for the panel are available on this site. The Panel has been asked to provide advice to the Prime Minister and the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship prior to the start of the next Parliamentary sitting period in August 2012.

    The Panel’s advice will be released publicly.

    http://expertpanelonasylumseekers.dpmc.gov.au/

  3. Note that Abbott said he wanted to see the details of the panel before he would commit to it, so now that the terms of reference are available will he?

    Just had a cackle. There is only ever one answer with Abbott, No.

  4. Completely off my own topic, but I couldn’t resist this one..an alignment to happen apparently on the 2nd December..

  5. Mobius, that’s precisely it..Abbott will not sit down with a panel consisting of Angus Houston, Paris Aristotle and Michael L’Estrange. It’s all rigged I tell ye…!

  6. Make no bones about it, this is all about Bishop attempting to cover Abbott’s back, doing a poor job of it admittedly, but still an attempted diversion non the less.

    Abbott lie big time in Darwin and was caught. He was saying one thing to the Indonesians and something totally different to the domestic audience.

    I can guarantee that if he had to talk face to face with the Indonesians over this he will not be chest thumping and telling them the way it will be. As is usual with his bullying, when confronted he will back down or run away, but tell Australians how brave he was and the what for he gave those Indonesians in his secret meeting, but regrettably he can’t send the boats back to Indonesia so he will implement a Malaysia solution.

    No it won’t be the previous government under Gillard’s Malaysia solution because this will be called the Abbott Malaysia solution, which is completely different and will work, as it would never have worked under Gillard as nothing worked under her. Not that anything is currently working under me but we can bullshit our way through that as long as we remain secretive.

  7. Mobius, I cannot imagine Tony Abbott doing anything whatsoever. As per Abbott’s mentor JWH, one always needs to have a scapegoat handy..drawing on the worst aspects of Australian society, and in this instance this being racism.

  8. I thought the funniest was Cassidy telling Abbott “My sources tell me you did not mention turning the boats around”.When Abbott tried to ignore Cassidy, Cassidy came back with “my sources are very good”
    Then that evening on the SBS news, there was the footage of Abbott and Bishop in with the Indonesian President and his advisors. So the only other person who knew what Abbott discussed or didn’t discuss was Julie Bishop.

    So the obvious deduction from the evidence, Julie Bishop was the Cassidy source.

  9. Miglo, I notice in the last parliament that the younger Bishop puts her left hand into a fist, fingers towards the front, , rubs near her left eye with her thumb, while moving the fingers in a cat like claw.

    Very ladylike.

  10. Nor is it likely he will listen to these learned experts. One that have actually worked in the filed, in it;s many areas.

    Men who would know better than most.

    Why is not the PM given credit for having the guts, to have her scheme judged in such a open manner.

    Note the younger Bishop is very much at home among her mining friends. They are very generous to her.

  11. I have just read this article on the SMH site, makes interesting reading
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/indonesia-will-bend-to-boats-policy-says-abbott-20120709-21rrd.html

    Especially this paragraph “In Perth yesterday, campaigning against the carbon tax, Mr Abbott told local radio asylum seekers coming by boat were un-Christian after a listener rang in and accused him of having an un-Christian attitude.
    ”I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door,” Mr Abbott said. ”I’m all in favour of Australia having a healthy and compassionate refugee and humanitarian intake program – but I think that the people we accept should be coming the right way, not the wrong way.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/indonesia-will-bend-to-boats-policy-says-abbott-20120709-21rrd.html#ixzz208TxzDPL

  12. Paul, thanks for the link. I think Abbott is unhinged – he has his own “facts” and his own reality and seems to believe that rant and repetition will convince – he’s right, up to a point due to the unswerving support given by most of the main stream media, but some of us are not persuaded…
    His comment about Christians and non Christians makes me cringe. With all his religious training he still misses the point.

  13. Pip, the trouble is that he seems to be correct about the public.

    SAMANTHA HAWLEY: Well we have a carbon tax today because of the alliance the Labor Party has with the Greens; would you agree with that?
    GREG COMBET: Well no, this has actually been Labor Party policy for many years.

    http://www.blogotariat.com/node/451947

  14. Q and A Turnbull. The parliament is dysfunctional. I take it he means that the only way the parliament can be functional, is to have a Liberal in charge.

    He said that the PM can fix it up by going back to the Pacific Solution., If it does not work, we can try something else.

    I suggest to Mr. Turnbull we can look at putting the right scheme in place in the beginning.

    We can listen to the experts that says the Pacific Solution will NOT work.

    As Chris Bowen says, we can do both. At least we will have a chance of getting it half right.

    Love the sign. Every time Turnbull spoke, it was held up. “Fruitless debate”

  15. TONY ABBOTT says a Coalition government would turn back asylum boats without permission from Indonesia because he would forge such a strong relationship between the two nations it could withstand the odd disagreement.
    He made the declaration yesterday as the Indonesian government confirmed the issue was not raised when Mr Abbott had a private meeting with the Indonesian President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, in Darwin last week.
    A spokesman for Mr Yudhoyono said the issue was not raised with Mr Abbott because he is not in charge of government policy. It was, however, discussed during the President’s talks with the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard. Ms Gillard has called Mr Abbott a coward for not floating his policy with the Indonesian President.
    Mr Abbott said yesterday the Howard government turned back boats without seeking Jakarta’s permission and he would do so as well.

    and

    The Herald revealed last week that during the talks in Darwin, the Indonesian government reiterated it would not permit boats containing asylum seekers to be turned around. Australian government officials warned any attempt to do so would seriously damage the relationship.
    Last year, Immigration Department officials said turning around boats was the most effective deterrent undertaken by the Howard government.
    It occurred on a handful of occasions after ”a nod and wink” from Indonesia but the officials said Indonesia would no longer permit it. Furthermore, the department said asylum seekers started scuttling boats to prevent them being turned back. Turning back the boats involved authorities leaving asylum seekers with just enough fuel and water to make it back to Indonesia.
    In Perth yesterday, campaigning against the carbon tax, Mr Abbott told local radio asylum seekers coming by boat were un-Christian after a listener rang in and accused him of having an un-Christian attitude.
    ”I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door,” Mr Abbott said. ”I’m all in favour of Australia having a healthy and compassionate refugee and humanitarian intake program – but I think that the people we accept should be coming the right way, not the wrong way.”
    In recent days, the former chief of the Australian Defence Force, Admiral Chris Barrie, the Defence Minister, Stephen Smith, and the Australian Defence Association have warned turning back the boats is dangerous for the authorities and asylum seekers.
    Mr Abbott, too, acknowledged it was dangerous. He sidestepped yesterday when asked whether he would also send boats back to Sri Lanka, from where an increasing number are coming.

    and

    To break the political deadlock, Ms Gillard set up a taskforce comprising the former defence force chief Angus Houston refugee advocate Paris Aristotle and former Howard government diplomat and foreign affairs secretary, Michael L’Estrange.
    The group met yesterday and will report back before Parliament resumes on August 14. Mr Abbott has already made clear he will not work with the panel.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/indonesia-will-bend-to-boats-policy-says-abbott-20120709-21rrd.html#ixzz208iAoNm3

  16. Of course his people and negotiation skills will carry the day. If that does not work, he will bully them.

    TONY ABBOTT says a Coalition government would turn back asylum boats without permission from Indonesia because he would forge such a strong relationship between the two nations it could withstand the odd disagreement.
    He made the declaration yesterday as the Indonesian government confirmed the issue was not raised when Mr Abbott had a private meeting with the Indonesian President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, in Darwin last week.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/indonesia-will-bend-to-boats-policy-says-abbott-20120709-21rrd.html#ixzz208jAe59z

  17. ….and Tony Abbott says:

    “It is so hard for me to soar with the eagles, when I have to work with turkeys (like Bishop)”

    Bishop responds:

    “Yeah I have faithfully served underneath the last three Liberal Party Leaders and you won’t leave me behind”

    ..and the voters respond:

    “She really is crap at confected outrage, but at least she has eased up on the cut and paste plagiarism and claiming she graduated from Harvard.”

  18. lunalava

    Abbott’s answer to all other issues

    “”I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door,” Mr Abbott said.

  19. Sue, and what would epitomise things Christian..the Spanish Inquisition or perhaps the Salem witch trials..yep, the last one is probably closest to the mark.

  20. What was said last night by the refugee on the QandA. One take whatever means is available.

    I was under the belief, that many coming were Christians. At least that was true for that boat that sunk at Christmas Island last year.

    I suspect is one was in the same position, one would be taking whatever means that was likely to succeed.

  21. I quite like this one..

  22. Some of Tony Abbott’s principles of propaganda:

    “Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority.”

    “Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.”

    “Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans. ”

    “Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred. ”

    “Black rather than white propaganda may be employed when the latter is less credible or produces undesirable effects. ”

    “To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium. ”

    “Propaganda must create an optimum anxiety level”
    Mr Abbott follows the principle that ‘when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. One must keep up the lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous’.

  23. John, well said. I believe absolutely in that one “Propaganda must create an optimum anxiety level”. Everything which Tony Abbott espouses is done so as to play on as you say, an optimum anxiety level.

    Howard knew how to play this one just so well. The Gillard government can try soothing techniques all that they like, but naught can overcome the anxiety level. People in fact quite enjoy being over the top and anxious, it’s an adrenaline rush.

  24. Eek! You printed a photo of that plagiarist of plagiarists Julie of the Bishop. Please resist the urge to do so again. Her name in print is OK but a photo? Just too traumatic. I just think that she might be copying someone’s work in a dank and dingy room, all the while giving killer looks at her frightened staff — ooooh trauma!

  25. Deknarf..profuse apologies. Even worse the wiggle bum in the Armani suits, while plagiarising, while perfecting the cat’s claw, while perfecting the death stare..

  26. Strange days indeed.

    Maybe many do not see the PM as being wedged.

    Maybe we are seeing what is not there.

  27. Well we had a view of what happens, if one looks like breaking ranks in the last sitting days.

    I thought Bishop was going to put a head lock on Washer, to ensure he stayed on the right side of the chamber.

  28. Paulwello, so stable as to be in a state of inertia..

    I do like that visualisation Cu, Bishop with Washer in a headlock. 🙂

  29. ok, have not had a chance to catch up on the latest political whizz bangs! but could not resist a visit and a HI!!! and BIG BIG HUGS to MIN and all fellow bloggers from (almost feels like) a past life!! thanx min for the link and the email! i’ll be sure to visit tomorrow when most of u are awake since am still in india and about to go to bed now!! Oh! and please please start the friday open threads again! where else will i post my recipes??!!!! love u all…

  30. hi miglo and min! yes have been in india since 3.5 yrs now… so naturally the old haunts petered out due to time difference etc. however min’s email with this link sparked off the reappearance! hope all has een well with u guys!! will try to log in when u guys are awake for a change, perhaps on sunday!!

  31. Hi Lekhni, you’ll find a lot of the old crew here plus heaps of new, wonderful people. Some have changed their blogging names, eg, Adrian is now Möbius.

  32. mig, i was around when adrian metamorphosed (his inspiration was his gecko if i remember correctly)…also, i’m 5 hrs behind u so however late u wake on sunday, i’ll wake later than that… 🙂

  33. Lekhni, it was a wonderful surprise to hear from you. As Migs said, there are still quite a number of the old crew around..and the new comers have a treat in store if/when you’re able to post some of your wonderful Indian recipes.

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