Team Abbott and Prophecies of Doom

Abbott Team

“We’ll all be rooned!” said Tony Abbott,
Attacking government as per habit,
Trying to bring the economy down,
Applauded by the big end of town.
Indeed, some managers and bosses,
Well able to bear short term losses,
Saw a good chance to shed employees,
Later replace them with cheaper trainees.

As Tony, Julie, and Joe spread ‘the facts’
About carbon pricing’s dire impacts,
Worried Aussies, supporting a family,
Cut down on spending, unsurprisingly.
Nonetheless the economy boomed.
The world didn’t think that Oz was doomed.
Towns weren’t destroyed or industries dying,
But in some big stores people weren’t buying.

“Of course they won’t if they’ve lost their job,”
Sneer Barnaby Joyce and Andrew Robb,
“And for that they can blame this PM!”
Rubbish!”  Wayne Swann shoots back at them.
The respected World’s Best Treasurer,
He’s backed by another good measurer
Of growth rates,  the Reserve Bank boss!  He blames……
Guess who?  He makes it clear…..without naming names

It’s Tony Abbott and his prophets of doom!
Without them we could go full bore….vroom…..vroom….Vroom….VROOM….VROOM!

NOTES:   Lots to write about as I consider all the negativity and destructiveness of Tony Abbott and how much more Australia could achieve without his prophesies of doom.  His party too could be more productive without his leadership.

The photo I’ve used as the header for this pome is from the official Liberal Party site’s page The Abbott Team.  These seven people are all former Howard government ministers.   Perhaps their loss of former ministerial status explains their somewhat gloomy demeanour here and not their current status in opinion polls which should have them all smiles.  Are they trying to suggest it’s serious work being shadow ministers in an Opposition supposedly ready to take over from a  government they describe as our  worst ever,  causing economic ruin with its unsustainable levels of debt?  That’s their message.  Unless this Gillard government goes, the country will never recover from its reckless spending and radical reforms which are destroying whole towns and major export industries like mining.

So they’ve chosen an image which they hope will present them as strong, determined and serious politicians who mean business.  I think they look miserably stressed rather than strong, and likely to find overwhelming the burdens of governing a country they claim is in dire straits!  Any  one of them could crack at any minute and who is likely to succeed them?   I wondered what we can learn about the rest of the Coalition shadow ministry listed  here and not immediately visible.   If I clicked their names I got pictures and biographical data.

But not a lot, and it was in very small print because there’s not much room! Every Liberal MP’s page is formatted and dominated in large red print by news of Labor and its latest failures.  Even bold blue Liberal news is invariably about bad things caused by Labor.   Check out Malcolm Turnbull’s page and see how similar it is to Sophie Mirabella’s.  They are all the same with standard stories about Labor’s latest scandal or gaffe with messages of doom and disaster if or when the carbon and mining taxes come in.  Even policy (mostly PDF 2010 downloads) and community pages are dominated by these formatted columns in heavy red about Labor’s disastrous doings.  Always alongside is Tony Abbott’s clean cut official image and now his very latest Twitters of Doom!    Nationals, though using different colors and more distinctive presentation,  still focus on the same thing – The Labor Party and how bad it is for country people and the nation generally.  Barnaby Joyce if he get’s Warren Truss’s job will simply be a louder more strident voice with same message.  Labor is BAD!  They have to go or we will all be ruined!

I didn’t check out all Coalition backbencher pages, but those I did have the same format with their pages dominated by these standard features. I wonder if any of them are weighed down at all by the complaints and carping, the accusations of criminality and scandals in large letters and headlines alongside the comparatively small print details on themselves?   Haven’t they have heard it already over and over in the tirades from Tony Abbott in Parliamentary debates and his sloganeering speeches on his tireless tours of factories and community halls in their own constituencies?  Do they flag at all repeating the same old message again to their constituents via local newspapers and radio interviews. What could be worse than saying it all over again in face to face conversations with alarmed pensioners and parents of little children worried that their lives could be blighted forever if the hated Gillard government does not go.

Many of these Coalition MPs can surely see that Julia Gillard and her government will not go, as Tony Abbott has been promising. In Canberra they see first hand how strong her leadership is and how successfully her team steer legislation through Parliament and enact reforms, some of which they privately would want to support.   But Tony says “No!” to everything and despite all his shouting and Parliamentary shenanigans the “Ayes” always have it, and he fails every time.  The PM has survived a massive ongoing media blitz echoing his predictions of gloom and their own best efforts at spreading his word at grass roots level.  Are any of them close to burn-out or depression after working for so long in an atmosphere of unrelenting negativity?  And failure too.  They know that is the reality, despite the polls and media hype.    How stressful do these MPs find the undermining of  local business and consumer confidence – the essence of Tony Abbott’s strategy against carbon pricing and the mining tax legislation?  His frenetic pace and overweening confidence that victory was weeks, then months and now perhaps years away, must be wearing, particularly for those on a knife edge in marginal seats.

When Parliament is in recess and they are away from Abbott’s driven persona  how do they sustain the myth of imminent doom with their constituents who live in the real world?  How can they sustain the party message when that reality is confirmed by the facts of low unemployment, low interest rates and sustained growth?  We have watched Joe Hockey’s facade fragmenting in press interviews, as he at last faces questioning about the facts of that reality. After all the numbers are the numbers!    He surely is in mental turmoil.  Less experienced backbenchers with even a little imagination will be having similar doubts.  It must be increasingly difficult to sustain gloomy predictions with worried and often angry constituents.  Their messages of d0om are being gainsaid daily by more and more good news about our economy which has to be published by the media however biassed till now.  They cannot ignore the comments of the Reserve Bank Governor, Glenn Stevens, about their own role in “the public discussion” which had become “unrelentingly gloomy and which has intensified over the past six months …… grimly determined to see our glass as half empty.”

And if they aren’t convinced by the RBA Governor to persuade themselves and their constituents that their glass is more than half full perhaps they will read what Peter Hartcher quoted from Greg Combet about the message their leader has sent them out to convey.  He describes that message as predictions of doom, spread by them for so long now.

…”There is doom for families, doom for pensioners, older people, younger people, babies, the middle-aged – they are all doomed. And none of it is true. No one over on that side of the House believes him either. No one believes him. They put their money where they think the markets are really going.”

Journalists like Peter Hartcher have of course been spreading their own prophesies of doom about the likely fate of Gillard’s ‘embattled’ government, its many gaffes,  woes and poor chances of survival.  His major theme and that of fellow journalists like Michelle Grattan has been about how disliked Julia Gillard is, the most unpopular PM the country has had and how her leadership is doomed.

So surely at the ALP site I would find some evidence of stress and strain.  But no, they looked a pretty cheerful lot in spite of all the jeers and sneers from team Abbott and the insults directed at the PM herself.  There was no group photo of Julia Gillard’s front bench of senior ministers.  showing her as leader. She is pictured like all of them,  perhaps as first among equals.  A click on every individual smiling thumbnail snap on that first page brings up lots of information from MPs about themselves and their individual portfolios and related policies with stories and pictures of apparently relaxed MPs interacting with their constituents.  I loved Wayne Swann’s site page.  His smile suggests a man deservedly bursting with pride in the work he does and the achievements of Labor.  Sometimes the Prime Minister is photographed at functions, or to make policy announcements relevant to particular ministries or localities.  On her own page she tells us a lot about herself in a pleasantly conversational tone.  There is no angry rebuttal of all the slander and insults Tony Abbott has thrown at her.  In fact I don’t think the Coalition rate a mention at all on her page or elsewhere much except occasionally in terms of policy differentiation.    Yes, policy!   There is lots of information everywhere on the Labor site about policies;  policies which are in the pipeline, policy goals achieved and community consultation about new policy plans and  development.

It is with policies I’ll finish because this is what Australians need and want to know about and discuss with politicians instead of all these scandals and predictions of doom.  I have two favorite blogsites, Cafe Whispers and The Political Sword.  At Cafe Whispers we’ve just seen that there are many people who admire our PM and her government.  They are sick of all the slander and negativity and they want to hear how the country is being run and about plans for our future.

Blogger NormanK  (June 8. 2012 11:18 PM) at the Political Sword said it for me when he talked about Labor’s vision and capacity for policy on huge infrastructure projects like the NBN.  At the same time Labor keeps working and consulting on policies about all sorts of things like intellect-intensive industries…… desalination technology……  food production sustainability…… novel and innovative ways of growing food…..floating farms near desal plants…….vertical farms where water gets re-used three or four times……….

Read his comment and you’ll understand his despair when we get no policy development or discussion from the Opposition.  Instead they have been deluded into talking only about DEBT, DESTRUCTION and DOOM.  Tony Abbott is not leading them into imaginative and constructive thinking for their party and country.  Instead the Abbott team are entirely pre-occupied with the confected failings of the Labor Party and Julia Gillard.  Their official website makes that clear.  There are more distortions there about the Labor Party than about their own plans and  policies!  They seem obsessed with replacing our Prime Minister with their own much pictured leader, Tony Abbott.  Thank God we have Julia Gillard, her cabinet colleagues, her Caucus supporters and other allies working together to lead Australia into a greatness beyond its dreams.

147 comments on “Team Abbott and Prophecies of Doom

  1. Just watched the PM. Did not seem to be under pressure. Appeared to give a good account of herself and policies, in spite of Mr. Jones cynicism and snide remarks/

    JULIA Gillard is holding on by her fingernails, furiously trying to lift Labor’s vote by convincing people the costs of the carbon tax will be offset by government handouts as she fends off a growing view she should be dumped before July 1.

    There is a widely held view within Labor that Gillard’s leadership is finished and that so much damage has been done already that the Prime Minister and her minority Labor government are doomed despite the billions being handed out in carbon tax compensation. Yet Gillard determinedly soldiers on and is convinced the “difficult times” for Labor will turn around once the bank balances swell from handouts and Tony Abbott’s “deceit” over carbon tax costs is exposed.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/determined-gillard-may-be-but-her-leadership-is-looking-terminal/story-e6frg75f-1226392347740?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAustralianOpinion+%28The+Australian+%7C+Opinion%29

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  3. … And there they sat in a row, faces set in grim determination to always do what is right – for billionaires and greedy fat cats.

  4. Instead they have been deluded into talking only about DEBT, DESTRUCTION and DOOM

    To be fair, it is only that theirmedia haven’t been able to cook up a better story than the tried and true that they stick with it.

  5. Team Abbott – has there ever been a bigger bunch of misfits pretending to be a major political party. I think not. It would be no good having Phoney on Q & A, he would be asked a difficult question and he would run away, like he always does. The show would be over before it began. Abbott, “in your guts you know he’s nuts”.

  6. Apart from the conventions of pairing or the debates about the validity of Thomson’s vote, the saga has shined the spotlight on the Abbott’s claims of the invalidity of an MP’s vote. While the public might not like the idea of Thomson sitting in the chamber (along with House of Representatives Speaker Peter Slipper) democracy and judicial separation of powers mean the public and Tony Abbott don’t get to decide Thomson’s fate or how he uses his newly-imposed independent status and parliamentary vote.

    By trying to take the high ground in grubbing Thomson’s vote as invalid, which it isn’t, the decision by Thomson to vote with the Opposition four times in one day has provided Labor’s spin doctors with their next election advertisement. The task made easier with an image of Tony Abbott sprinting from parliament, aptly referred to by Gillard as ‘running from democracy.’ As one commentator notes, the 2013 federal election will probably be the nastiest and most negative in history.

    http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=13727

  7. Liked the blog, but will you kindly stop putting horrible picture of the NO Coalition up on your site. I prefer not to see grossly unpleasant pictures first thing in the morning! ;-]

  8. Thanks for reminding us, that under Howard, household debt was the greatest in history.

    Maybe there is s silver lining to Abbott’s gloom and doom. It has lead to people changing their saving habits. As Stevens said, in his speech, is good for the economy.

    Last night, I believe we got a little insight into the PM’s belief on same gender marriage. I have a inkling that hers is a little like mine,

    It is marriage. itself, that she sees little need for. From her comment, she has nothing against same gender marriage. I believe she is correct, marriage has little to do with love ot commitment.

    I noticed that only the noise is being reported from Q and A. I observed that the audience was serious and appeared to be listening to every word the PM uttered.

    When one listens she has much to say, much that makes common sense.

    Th PM pointed out that she does listen, but there is much noise that one has to delve through to get to the message.

    The PM was passionate in her reply to the questioner that implied that it was Gina and the miners that got us through the GFC. The acknowledge that we were lucky to have the boom, but reminded the audience it was the workers and employers that came to the agreement to work fewer hours to save jobs, that went a long way to assist.

    Yes, PM, not only Gina and her cohorts that work hard, most others in the community do.

    Why are they so reluctant to accept the praise that the PM give them.

    We are seeing after 30 years one of the worse explanations of trial by media being put to bed. The outcry was so great, that even the police and investigators were tainted. Every one knew she was guilty. Any evidence that did not support the allegations was ignored. Even the third coroners court could not bring itself to write on the death certificate that the dingo did it.

    This woman, as a result spent many years in jail.

    This is why it is important that our legal system is based on the presumption of innocence.

  9. Julia Gillard’s reply about gay marriage was crap, just because she doesn’t believe in marriage. It’s the same as saying just because you don’t believe in banks and want to hide all your money in a sock under the mattress that you’re going to stop people using banks.

  10. The PM said this week, week are patting ourselves on the back for Mabo. The PM reminded us of the media outcry and warnings that our backyards where in danger. She pointed out, that none of the predicted dire outcomes eventuated. In fact the opposite is true, the have been positive.

  11. “about gay marriage was crap, ”

    I agree, but it is something some of us have to cope with. By the way, I support the right for people to believe in marriage. That does not mean that all see it the same way.

    Therefore, I believe all should be allowed to marry who they chose. It is at the end of the day, a personal choice.

  12. With just 19 days to go to Tony Abbott’s economic era of the python and the wrecking ball – known elsewhere as the start of carbon pricing – Prime Minister Gillard is gathering some of the best and brightest in one place.

    The official objective of the Prime Minister’s Economic Forum, which starts tomorrow after the launch tonight, is to tap the creative talent of business and government for advice on exploiting the Asian century, the epoch which with greater honesty would be called the Chinese Century.

    and

    The five topics to be covered for behind-closed-doors discussion include the patchwork economy and the high dollar; transformation of the economy; productive investment; skilling the workforce; and reforms in competition and deregulation.

    and

    Team Gilllard also will not be flinching from carbon pricing and will be making the case against Opposition Leader Abbott’s certainties that the scheme to penalise carbon pollution will but the economy into a python-like strangle hold.

    There will not be total agreement and the Prime Minister and her troops will themselves be a captive audience to some critiquing by the big end of town and probably a few harsh remarks from the trade union end of town as well.

    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/with-20-20-hindsight-theyre-having-another-crack/

    The lady does not run. The PM has been criticized once again for gathering people together and listening. The Queensland Premier is too busy to join her.

  13. Yes, it does indeed take balls to spread doom and gloom and demonize all that do not agree.

    Such people always say it takes ‘balls’ to demonise asylum seekers, but what it really takes is a sac of cruelty, shrivelled by fear. They say it takes ‘guts’ to drum up paranoia, but what it takes is a flabby and bloated self interest with no real strength behind it.

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/12/a-punchy-morning/

    By the way, the Chamberlain saga was not just trial by media, it also helped along by extreme political interference. It only goes to reinforce that the separation of powers is the necessary basis of our democracy. Politicians enact laws. The judiciary enforce them. The twain should never meet. There should never be any cross over.

  14. Pat WA
    Only 5 vrooms but they finish off the poem excellently, well done another masterpiece plus the fine words following. What a miserable lot the nopossition look. A smile would crack their faces. No new talent, only old rodent hacks, to lead us into the future, oops sorry lead us back to the future in fact to 1956, picket fence Holden (not a DeLorean) in the drive. May the force be with us.

  15. No, I didn’t get it but I have to accept your word.

    Perhaps you should have called yourself Jedi, thus removing any doubt.

  16. Migs, I don’t think that there is any problem. It’s one of those silly names. My son Jared’s nickname is Jed. Jed Dye, Jedi. You can ask Jared if you like.

  17. “And the baby stole my dingo. Jed Dye, Jedi..get it.”
    No I dont ‘get it’ . 😕 I dont think that losing a child is funny. 30 bloody years later the Chamberlains finaly get a sorry. And I applaud the NT Coroner for her heartfelt relpy to her findings….

  18. LOVO, I have stood up for Lindy since the year dot. My son Jared aka Jed was born the same year as Azaria and so, as a mother I understood. And Jed was a nice size baby and Azaria a wee little one. Then there were the reports from local Aboriginals about how dingos were often trying to steal babies.

    Justice prevails, and I have much faith in justice.

  19. LOVO, Migs was questioning my son’s choice of name. He’s a 10yr man Leading Seaman on the patrol boats out of Cairns and the crew dropped by on their way down to Sydney. I twisted his arm to write a comment. I dare say that he won’t be writing another one.

  20. I can’t see those ever so clever and non judgmental journalist of yester year breaking their necks to retract any of the bull crap they wrote as indeed they won’t re the Craig Thomson debacle.

  21. “Justice prevails, and I have much faith in justice”

    I don’t. Look at Andy Murihead (for one recent example…)

  22. Patricia, two things were at play. Trial by media and political interference.

    We never learn.

    That and media beat-ups, that are good at convincing us that black is white.

    There is always present a prejudice to make it work. In the Chamberlain case, it was religion., With the asylum seekers it is race.

    With Thomson, it could be sex or just hate of unions.

    For it to work , there has to be a dumping of procedural fairness, presumption of innocence and separation of powers, of the two arms of out system.

    It works better when politicians stick their noses into areas that are not their domain.

    What always loses is good governance and justice.

    The nation loses most.

    Sadly, the politicians going down this path, often win.

  23. 😳 , Jed, I wasnt having a full blown go at ya… I had just heard the Coroner on the radio and still had the lump in my throat when I read your comment….
    I hope I havn’t chased him off Min, he sounds like a good’n, just like his Mum 😉
    and to completly change the subject I offer this:-

    😀

  24. LOVO, Jed was saying it in an ironic way. He’s one special person, spent the first 3 years of his life on a nebuliser, overcame that. I home schooled him for 2 years to get him his Yr 10 cert. He has an IQ of around 120 but due to Asperger’s had a lot of problems fitting in. He was the hero, always coming to the rescue.

    Apart from 2 tours of the Gulf and 2 tours of East Timor he is now the proud daddy of 2 little girls with his TSI wife.

  25. The magistrate this morning, pointed out that there was evidence of the dingo being present from day one. There were dingo hairs in the tent and on the clothing. There where dog tracks. Someone heard a growl.

    All one had to do to create the myth was to ignore the evidence or twist it into meaning something else. Then spend time creating new misleading evidence.

    One can always find a expert to back up ones belief. el gordo, is an good example of this.

    It’s that time again – a market and political economy quiz.

    The recent Essential Poll showed that only 35% of the population knew interest rates were lower now than when the Labor Government was elected in 2007 and a stunning 20% thought that interest rates were higher. The others presumably had no idea or interest in the interest rate matter.

    This prompted me to frame a quick quiz for those interested in the interest rate issues.

    http://www.marketeconomics.com.au/2079-a-little-quiz-on-interest-rates#respond

    That 35% must be those who support this PM.

  26. Whole story. May as well educate that 70% that do not know.

    Question 1:

    The standard variable mortgage interest rate was 8.55% when the Labor Government won the November 2007 election. After the June cut in official interest rates, what is the average mortgage rate of the big banks?

    A: 6.80%

    Question 2:

    How much is the annual savings in repayments on a $300,000 mortgage with interest rates at 6.80% versus 8.55%?

    A: $4,100 a year.

    Question 3:

    The June cut from the RBA saw the official cash rate fall to 3.5%. When was the last time a Coalition or Liberal Party controlled Government presided over a cash rate this low and who was Prime Minister at that time?

    A: 1965; Robert Menzies.

    Question 4:

    When was the last cut in official interest rates during the Howard Government?

    A: December 2001.

    Question 5:

    What happened to official interest rates during the final 6 years of the Howard Government?

    A: Interest rates only rose – there were 10 straight interest rate rises from a low of 4.25% in December 2001 to 6.75% by the time of the November 2007 election.

    Question 6:

    If the futures market is correct, where will the official cash rate be at the start of 2013 and what does this imply for the level of mortgage rates?

    A: Around 2.25% to 2.50% for the official cash rate, which implies a standard variable mortgage rate around 5.75% to 6.00%.

    Question 7:

    What was the average official cash rate under the Howard Government? (April 1996 to November 2007)

    A: 5.43%

    Question 8:

    What is the average official cash rate under the Rudd and Gillard Governments? (December 2007 to June 2012)

    http://www.marketeconomics.com.au/2079-a-little-quiz-on-interest-rates#respond

    A: 4.71%

  27. Yes, all one has to do, is ignore the truths and keep the myths alive.

    “The next election is set to be more than usually significant for Australia’s future: it will confirm that we are now set on the continental European path of higher taxes, growing debt and bigger government; or it will restore the Hawke/Keating/Howard consensus that government should operate to empower individuals and communities rather than itself,” Abbott stated early on.

    Of course, this is a grossly misleading statement. As the budget papers tell us, the Rudd-Gillard years have actually seen exceptionally restrained government spending. Australia’s government spending is now lower, as a proportion of the size of the Australian economy, than the Howard or Keating years.

    And when it comes to the policy details, Abbott could offer up no examples of government programs or welfare payments that should be cut. Indeed, he spent a lot of time talking about his paid parental leave scheme, an exceptionally generous policy that would see working parents paid up to $75,000 a year, financed by a significant increase in company tax. Unsurprisingly, Abbott didn’t mention the tax hike to big business that will pay for the scheme.

    Comparing Abbott’s speech on Thursday evening to Howard’s from 1995 is instructive. The amount of policy detail and the command of that detail that Howard was able to canvass appears impressive in hindsight, especially in comparison with the diminished current standards of political debate.

    Howard was capable of discussing areas of economic reform such as coastal shipping, productivity on the waterfront, or industrial relations reform with considerable detail and nuance. In contrast, Abbott’s airy pronouncements (“wealth, after all, has to be created before it can be redistributed”) sound great, but enjoy no particular anchor in fact. Australia’s economy growing at 4.3 per cent? Not in Abbott-land.

    Of course, while most polls show that Australians show no great liking for Tony Abbott, they also show that the Coalition is still comfortably besting the Australian Labor Party on all measures of electoral support. Gillard and Labor will enjoy few breaks from the pressure and the scrutiny between now and the next election, no matter how well the economy performs.

    The Prime Minister is close to a lame duck. Her troubling lack of political capital is highlighted by the desultory interest in what should be a major set-piece event this week, an economic forum held from today in Brisbane. Despite gathering more than “130 leading Australians, from government, business, unions and the wider community to discuss Australia’s future in the global economy,” Gillard can’t actually get Queensland Premier Campbell Newman to turn up. Newman has labelled the forum a “talkfest”.

    http://newmatilda.com/2012/06/12/promise-big-deliver-small

  28. Why did I cry when the Chamberlains came out to address the media? I think it was about Azaria, the baby, poor little bub. As the Coroner said, “Time does not remove the pain and sadness of the death of a child,”

    I was impressed by Michael Chamberlain. I imagine Craig Thomson, though not convicted of any crime, nor charged with one either, will take comfort from his words about getting justice in the end, but you have be telling the truth.

  29. Patricia, I braved myself to look at some of the comments from news.com readers about the Azaria finding. As expected, she’s guilty in the minds of those idiots.

  30. Migs, I despair for the public. What can one think when 70% believe interest rates were lower under Howard. Wonder where the $3000 or more extra they have in their budget came from.

    Abbott is successfully building a straw house of Labor’s high taxes, spending and interest rates. It is interesting that he gets away with this, when Labor is spending less, is not higher tax and big government.

    Interest rates are lower that they have been for generations.

    It is unbelievable that they continue to believe the lies, when the facts are in their faces.

    Maybe the Abbott government is the one we deserve, for being so stupid.

  31. Tony Abbott has declined Q and A.

    Now that is interesting.

    But not surprising, CU.

    Saaq Madiq @9.32am, rofl!

    All one had to do to create the myth was to ignore the evidence or twist it into meaning something else. Then spend time creating new misleading evidence.

    Glad to see the msm hasn’t changed their tried and true methods of character assassination, CU.

    Migs, hopefully, Lindy and Michael Chamberlain are both beyond caring what the rednecks think.

    It nearly broke my heart when I saw her interview after her release from prison. They have suffered so much.

  32. Jane, the wrongly accused and abused..a sad situation isn’t it. It’s as if other people’s lives mean nothing, make any accusation that you like and that there will never be any consequences.

    In spite of being labelled an optimist, I know that Justice will prevail. And hello to the rest of you white lighters out there, Jan S and auntie S I know you’re reading 🙂

  33. Surprises!!! Generally is when politicians involved themselves in criminal matters. Slipper is not taking a break from being Speaker. He still is Speaker. He is just not sitting in the house. He is still attending to all other duties, as the Acting Speaker is very clearly stating when she takes the Chair.

    Lawyers for Federal Parliamentary Speaker Peter Slipper have asked the Federal Court to throw out sexual harassment allegations against their client, arguing there has been an “abuse of process”.

    and

    But Mr Slipper’s lawyers have applied to the Federal Court to have the case either thrown out or permanently stayed, and have accused Mr Ashby of starting a “vexatious proceeding”.

    Mr Slipper is seeking legal costs from Mr Ashby.

    Mr Ashby is also pursuing legal action against the Commonwealth Government and remains “on leave” from his duties with the Speaker.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-12/slipper-moves-to-have-case-thrown-out/4066422

  34. Migs and

    No, I guessed that someone wants Jedda to die..I thought I’d said end of story and it was clearly a misunderstanding on my behalf.

    Indeed. It’s not as if a person can will another person to die. Mind you, I’ve often wished that my psycho ex might drop dead too. 😉

  35. John Byson ABC 24. Said this should not be the end of the Chamberlain matter.

    He said it started as a witch hunt, and should finish as one. He wants a inquiry into how this happened, both on a Territory and Federal level.

    Yes, witch it was indeed. I feel much of what is occurring today, is also of the same nature.

    We have an opposition demanding police investigate any little allegation they can find, in the hope that it leads somewhere.

    The only agenda is to find something on anybody, that means Labor does not have the numbers to keep governing, Anything will do.

  36. Hi, Jan S.

    I received your recipe but it’s something worse than the man flu, however, I will enjoy your soup just the same.

    I was at work for a whole hour but managed to grab the cure-all recipe. 🙂

  37. Migs, there is a reason. Pick up the bloody friggin’ phone!!! There’s a saying about the devil taking the hindmost. Suck it and see. From Jan and we other white lighters, it’s all about foregiveness, but most especially all about trust. You told me one time to trust because you see the big picture. Don’t worry, we’ll get there.

    One for you…

  38. Migs, well I did know this didn’t I. You made such a wonderful effort at Darling Harbour and those of us who met you would not have known that you were suffering a lupus flareup at the time. I sorta knew of course.

  39. Apologies to Patricia for being off topic. Here is an article by our wonderful friend Debra Freeman Highberger.

    Being an artist, lupus for me is defined by visual metaphors, a grouping of pictures that are forever playing in my head. But two are more prominent than others, the first being “the wolf,” the other being a Jack-in-the-Box. Lupus patients often refer to this disease as “The Wolf” because of its name. But it is also a perfect visual of the characteristics that this disease holds. As with Red Riding Hood, you are never completely out of the woods and safe. Everyday issues that most people have to address become magnified for us. With every slurred word…with every twinge of pain…with every rapid or slowed heart rate or indigestion, we wonder…is that the wolf lurking and licking at my heels?

    http://debrafreemanhighberger.blogspot.com.au/

  40. Migs, you did say to me, Now you know what a lupus flareup looks like. I should imagine that the sweats and staggering trying to maintain balance was just a small example.

  41. “It’s not as if a person can will another person to die. ”

    Despite your best efforts.

    Your distasteful attempt to make some kind of sick joke at he time when my long- term companion of some fourteen years passed away still haunts me.

    To this day I still miss my loyal four legged friend.

    But I guess that says more about you than it does me.

  42. Miglo, I read recently that lupus was caused by a spirochete bacterium which has no cell wall. You should consider some form of oxygen therapy.

  43. Here’s some more little gems from Steven Koukoulas’ economics quiz to add to your list CU:

    Q. In what year, did the tax to GDP ratio reach a record high? Which political party presided over this record tax take?

    A: 24.2 per cent of GDP in both 2004-05 and 2005-06. The Coalition.

    Q. In terms of big taxing governments, in how many years since 1982-83 has the tax to GDP ratio been above 23.5 per cent?

    A: Seven, under the Coalition. None under Labor.

    Q. In how many years was the tax to GDP ratio below 21.0 per cent when the Coalition was in government? In how many years was the tax to GDP ratio below 21.0 per cent when Labor was in government?

    A: Zero under the Coalition, Six under Labor.

    Q. In the last eight Labor budgets where the budget outcome is known (five for Hawke/Keating and three for Rudd/Gillard), how many times has the tax to GDP been above 22.0 per cent?

    A: None.

    Q. In the 12 Howard government budgets, how many times was the tax to GDP ratio above 22.0 per cent?

    A: All 12.

  44. Catching up, what’s the betting there will still be people saying “She did it!” and they will find things in the ACA interview to prove it, to themselves at least. Some people can never admit they were wrong.

    And the media will let it go on as long as there are people willing to ring up and have their say. By the way I like to think I’m reasonably objective (!) but still, I found myself thinking -“Well, if Lindy C really wants closure she should take that death certificate home now and refuse all media interviews for evermore.

  45. Thank you, Silky. I will look into that. Would it be any help if I said that I breathe oxygen on a daily basis? 😉

    The cause of my latest flare-ups have been identified. It’s to do with the lighting in my new office building.

  46. Catching up, you’re right. They are so focussed on finding any issue or any angle with which to try to overthrow the government that they’ve forgotten that when/if Tony Abbott
    does become PM they will have to run the country. They are so ill prepared for that, as even their own website shows, that they are less interested in promoting themselves as constructive thinkers than getting rid of Labor on any pretext. The media let them get away with it.

  47. ‘…that they are less interested in promoting themselves as constructive thinkers than getting rid of Labor on any pretext. The media let them get away with it.’

    Opposition parties all around the world are critics of government, if they agreed with everything the government did… it would a be a virtual one party state. You have heard of rubber stamping?

    The media are only interested in stories which sell newspapers or attract viewers attention in the msm, they want to keep their jobs. This is not a conspiracy.

  48. el gordo, I am not suggesting this Opposition should desist from opposing! I am suggesting it’s time they focussed on real issues. We do need critiquing of policies, but we also need to be offered constructive alternatives. If they keep their plans under wraps and just bring them out when an election is called there is no time for the public to consider them. We need to know what the Coalition stands for, not just the things they won’t stand for.

  49. We know it’s in the interest of business that confidence grows, we know it’s in the interests of working people that confidence grows, too,” Ms Gillard told the gathering today.

    “We all need investment to flow, we all need jobs to grow, we all need consumers to spend.”

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    Ms Gillard said areas of “greatest interest” for the forum were corporate tax and labour mobility.

    “I’ve got no doubt the company tax rate should be lower – and no doubt the revenue base has to be maintained as well,” she added.

    “And we understand that the benefits of a lower corporate rate would flow to workers and the wider community in more jobs and better pay over time.”

    With the nation’s mining regions crying out for workers as unemployment rises in other areas, Ms Gillard called for solutions to address the costs and constraints of moving interstate.

    “We’ve worked on national licensing of professions and trades and on incentives for welfare to work and now we’re turning attention to more improvements to jobs services and to issues like state transaction taxes on property as well,” she said.

    Less than a week away from the Group of 20 world leaders’ summit in Mexico, the prime minister said she would tell her counterparts “austerity alone is not the right path”.

    “Here, we have put growth and jobs first – growth which in turn is the solid foundation for fiscal discipline in the long term,” Ms Gillard said.

    Ms Gillard also said Australia could not rely on “luck” to build the national economy.

    “We have to make it,” she said.

    The government had got the economic fundamentals right and now it was up to business, unions and other to continue that work.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/prime-minister-julia-gillard-pitches-tax-cuts-worker-mobility/story-fn59noo3-1226393488208

  50. Another day, another deadline. How many is that now. One day they might get it right.

    Rudd backers working to October deadline for new leadership challenge
    BY: JOE KELLY AND BEN PACKHAM From: The Australian June 12, 2012 4:00PM

    LABOR MPs supporting Kevin Rudd for the leadership believe Julia Gillard will survive through to the parliament’s winter break but now faces an unofficial “deadline” of October for a leadership showdown.

    As Labor continues to flatline in Newspoll, sources say Mr Rudd remains interested in leading the party once again, but has placed strict conditions on any comeback.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/polling/rudd-backers-working-to-october-deadline-for-new-leadership-challenge/story-fnc6vkbc-1226393243909

  51. Next year he’ll be 56 – what else would he do with his life, wear white-flannel trousers and walk along Queenscliff Beach? He’s got no head for business or charity, and his kids are adults. If the Coalition were led by someone else Abbott might become a Cabinet Minister but he’s been there and done that, and the next Liberal Prime Minister would not indulge him like Howard did. Yet, if Gillard continues her slow and steady ascendancy over him Abbott will become a national laughing stock, and he won’t stick around for that. Those profile-writers who love boxing metaphors can talk about him diving in the eighth round. Abbott is all tactics, no strategy, and the tactics are failing: the suspension of standing orders, a potent political weapon used to great effect by Curtin, Menzies and Whitlam, gives rise to sniggers under Abbott. The cudgel language that the government is “hopeless”, “a disaster”, etc., has lost its cut-through (when commentators applaud Abbott for a quality he no longer possesses, their own judgment is in doubt, which means a loss of revenue and ooh let’s convene a talk on digimedia). Julia Gillard will lead Labor to victory at the next Federal election. The government has a message and she is starting to give her voice to it. People are wary, holding off for some consistency that will lead to a bigger picture, a picture in which their own role becomes clearer. Messaging professionals who turn away from Labor’s recently poor record and who admire Abbott’s “cut through” are themselves missing the point, and failing in their own role as communicators. * This is crap. Abbott hasn’t thought this through, he couldn’t get it past a hostile Senate, and there would have to be about four elections over the next six years in order to get all the ducks in a row for Abbott, as outlined ??here – during which time voters would have to maintain both a burning hatred for Labor and absolute forgiveness to the Coalition for breaking any promises. Good luck with that.

    http://www.blogotariat.com/node/401640

    http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/no-message-is-message.html

    Where does Abbott go from here.

  52. Interesting, isn’t it. The government and the PM have a good week and the Oz starts talking about another Rudd challenge.

  53. Patricia, Slipper and Thomson appear to be no go areas all of a sudden. Wonder if that speech of Jackson’s went ahead tonight.

  54. Miglo, for Reith to be impressed, it must have condemn unions. Nothing else interest him. I am glad that he has something to keep him happy, had a rough time on the the Drum, today.

    She was ordered by the HSU not to go ahead with the Speech. Not as that matters now, they are all out of a job. Have until I think Friday to give back everything that belongs to the HSU, such as phones etc. I imagine cars as well.

  55. CU, I’m much more interested in what Wixxy has to say on what she has to say…. ’cause what she has to say probably shouldn’t of been said……. just say’n. 😀

  56. t’s been 22 years since a trade union official addressed the right-wing think-tank HR Nicholls Society but this did not deter outspoken Health Services Union secretary Kathy Jackson, who walked away with a standing ovation.

    Straight off the bat on Tuesday, Ms Jackson, a member of the ALP, admitted she had been attacked for daring to speak to the society but said she would rather have a dialogue than call each other names.

    But the woman who blew the whistle on the NSW branch of the HSU did have some names for the Labor elite, such as comparing Bill Shorten in his role as Workplace Minister as like having Dracula in charge of the blood bank.

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    “Bill Shorten is an international grandmaster in the process of using unions as chess pieces in ALP factional warfare,” she said.

    “Bill Shorten as Minister for Workplace Relations is the most obvious example of Dracula being in charge of the blood bank.”

    Her speech centred around stronger regulation of unions in promoting confidence of their members and the need for reform in the union election process.

    “Big money in union elections, like big money in all elections, threatens the democratic foundations on which a health union depends,” she said.

    She said rank-and-file members have no chance of getting elected unless they are part of the leadership ticket or a member of a well-sponsored reform group.

    The cost of campaigning can run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars which favours the incumbents, she said.

    Ms Jackson also said HSU East general secretary Michael Williamson recently told another official that he had a $2 million war chest available to him to fight union elections inside and outside the HSU.

    She claimed HSU members had been outraged over the Craig Thomson affair, although NSW members were being bombarded with information saying she was just making everything up.

    “They’re saying ‘She’s crazy’ and some people are actually buying that,” Ms Jackson said.

    “Ultimately, what the 70,000 members are concerned about is what is happening to their money.”

    She said their union subscriptions should be going towards employing industrial staff, research staff and organisers “but where it has been going is somewhere else”.

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/kathy-jackson-compares-shorten-to-dracula-20120612-208ir.html

  57. I do hope they have a job lined up for her.

    The members of the H.R. Nicholls Society, gathered at a Docklands restaurant for a conference titled ”Cost, Loss and Disruption – Another Year of the Fair Work Act”, gave her a standing ovation. One of them hailed her as a ”lioness” after she had worked over her list of enemies, including her predecessor as national secretary of the HSU, the exiled Labor MP Craig Thomson, and Michael Williamson, who has stood aside as HSU national president in the face of police investigations sparked in part by Jackson’s allegations. Both were suspended yesterday by order of the Federal Court.
    Jackson’s appearance at the H.R. Nicholls Society was surely the most unusual pairing in recent industrial history, and it wasn’t lost on the society’s leaders.
    ”From the bottom of my heart,” said society board member James W. Patterson, ”thank you for all the ammunition you have provided us with tonight.”
    Jackson was under no illusions about the contempt from fellow unionists she would earn for agreeing to speak to the society: she’d already copped it. Anyway, with limited options these days, she would have given the speech ”to the Tallarook Country Women’s Association if they’d invited me”.
    ”I am not Joan of Arc,” she said. ”I am not a political virgin.” But she wanted reform.
    She reserved her most scathing comments for what she said was the role of both Thomson and Williamson in standing in the way of rule changes that would have given ordinary union members the chance of contesting elections in their own union.
    With contested elections now costing in ”the high tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars”, Thomson had presented a rule change that revoked a candidate’s right to even provide a photo and a statement to the union to the Australian Electoral Commission. Incumbents didn’t need photos and statements being posted out free by the AEC because they had large war chests available

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/union-secretary-takes-fight-into-heartland-of-the-old-foe-20120612-208iq.html#ixzz1xadMT6Tw

  58. CU she sounds like she’s aiming for a directorship of whateva company they(them) ‘allow’ her to have, Kathy the sell out-erer, she aint union and by her own account never was…. a me-me, a seagull….mine,mine,mine,mine…. welcome to history Kath(ya loser).

  59. ‘I am suggesting it’s time they focussed on real issues.’

    Like the tax on carbon dioxide (CO2 doesn’t cause global warming) and the massive increase in boat people?

  60. ‘We need to know what the Coalition stands for, not just the things they won’t stand for.’

    They are into infrastructure building, but they don’t want to flag it at this stage of the political cycle because Julia might steal their ideas.

  61. El gordo..so you want to go back to the Howard years re asylum seekers. What are your recommendations? Let me know, then I’ll be able to tell you the many and various ways why you are wrong. 😉

  62. CU @ 12.34

    As to a job for Kathy Jackson, it may be that as she could not win preselection for a Labor ballot, she has decided to go for a Liberal ticket.

  63. ‘…so you want to go back to the Howard years re asylum seekers?’

    It’s policy which worked, even though it appears inhumane. The voters expect expect it.

  64. el gordo, and where are the majority of those asylum seekers from the Howard years living now?????

  65. Crowey, I might have the precise numbers wrong, but I believe that around 90% of all asylum seekers sent to Nauru were found to be genuine refugees. A hugely expensive exercise, with nothing achieved except pr for JWH.

    And of course it’s now a completely different ball park with asylum seekers now having access to the Australian court system, which they didn’t have in the Howard years.

    El gordo..And no, it’s nothing to do with Julia..it’s to do with 2 rulings of the High Court.

  66. Late rising over here – stormy winds shaking my roof all night.

    Re. Jackson’s standing ovation surely not for her speaking skills – she seemed to stumble through her reading of her speech. I wonder if Michael helped her write it? Or maybe Peter Reith? Anyway she’s s cast her lot in with the Opposition well and truly now. I guess she’s hoping that way salvation lies.

    A job Cu? What about all the careful vetting for character etc. which the ALP allegedly failed to do with Craig Thomson? Surely the Libs will show Labor how it should be done!

  67. “she’s s cast her lot in with the Opposition well and truly now”

    Yes she has. I wonder if this be one action the Opposition wished had not occurred.

    Have they not noticed, that once this lady gets her claws in, she does not let go. If one disagrees, they join the long list of her enemies.

    They will then feel the heat of her attacks. This it appears, even applies to high court judges.

  68. Re my comments about Malcolm Turnbulls screen on the Liberal Party website I should mention that he has his own more personalised news site which I went to and out of curiosity subscribed to his newsletter. Just received the latest addressed to Dear Patricia! You can see he has his own more subtle way of getting the message of doom across to his constituents and supporterts generally.

    Dear Patricia,

    Many small businesses are struggling to reconcile strong economic growth in the last quarterly National Accounts with the difficulties they currently face. The most common observation I hear from business people is that customers aren’t spending because they are anxious about the future.

    Glenn Stevens, the Reserve Bank Governor, sought to set this right last week in an excellent address where he urged us to regard Australia’s glass as half full, rather than half empty. He noted that Australian households, which until about 2005 were on a decade-long borrowing spree, have since saved more and spent less – a reversion to more traditional and prudent economic behaviour.

    I discussed some of these issues myself in a recent speech about our terms of trade to the Melbourne Institute.

    It isn’t easy for Australians to get too excited about our country’s strong current economic performance. While our public debt is low relative to other developed countries, it is still much higher than it ought to be courtesy of the Rudd and Gillard governments’ reckless spending during and after the global financial crisis.

    Etc. etc. etc. You can see the same undermining of confidence in our government and national economy in most of the items on his news bulletin although it doesn’t have the same format as that prescribed by the Liberal party. http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/

    Yup, Malcom Turnbull is a prophet of doom too.

  69. Patricia, that is an extremely interesting reply which you received from Malcolm Turnbull and to quote:

    The most common observation I hear from business people is that customers aren’t spending because they are anxious about the future.

    Firstly MT’s observation is incorrect given recent data:

    What was dramatically positive was that we got strong consumer spending and a continued high household savings ratio.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/terry-mccranns-column/consumers-spending-but-not-in-shops-gdp-numbers-reveal/story-e6frfig6-1226386776545

    As per the title of the article, consumers are spending but not in shops. Surely this begs the question, Just then where are people spending? The obvious answer is online. Online spending is going to cause even further problems with the economy in the future. Step 1 would be that anyone who has a turnover of over $5,000 has to register as a business. This was done with the Market Industry a few years ago..it’s currently a cash in hand economy and should be addressed asap. It’s when a hobby becomes income.

  70. They are into infrastructure building, but they don’t want to flag it at this stage of the political cycle because Julia might steal their ideas.

    Congratulations, el gordo. You’ve just tipped out Neil of Sydney for posting the most ridiculous comment ever here in this blog.

  71. Catching up – poor Kathy!
    (My phone has) been disconnected and I’ll have to deliver it back to the office by Friday, and my car, and all my other possessions I have that belong to the HSU,” she told Fairfax Radio.

  72. Patricia, they were told last Friday that all had to be returned by this Friday.

    Have not seen anywhere that Kathy has lodged any more documents, that I was under the impression, she was going to do in Tuesday.

    The lady is no longer connected the the HSU.

  73. Thanx Bacchus… she may get a job on HR nicholls reception counter. 🙂 ..be interesting to see where she ends up, her union career is finished, hope the poor luv’s saved some of that pay packet, gotta get a new car and phone etc 😀

  74. HSU National Secretary Kathy Jackson says her children have been traumatised by her fight with the embattled union and her career with the organisation may be over.

    http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-national/jackson-says-kids-traumatised-by-hsu-20120613-20a3c.html

    Her career might be over. She is joking, I assume

    I wonder if they were the kids she took into court last Friday.

    I wonder how Mr. Thomson wife and two kids felt, when he was abused at the airport. Only toddlers, but even at that age, they become upset when someone attacks daddy.

  75. Cu, I can’t find any link anywhere to Jackson having her kids with her in court. Where did you see that?

  76. Patricia, I did not say her kids. In that report last Friday, that described the day in court, there was a comment that late in the day, Ms. Jackson returned to the court with two young boys, that sat at the back of the court.

    All I asked after she made the comment about her sons being traumatised, I wondered if they were her boys.

    Sorry to give the wrong impression. I should have made it clearer, when I read your comment. I suspected you got me wrong.

  77. Thanks Bacchus. Was she not asked to lodge more papers this week. Is the matter back at court tomorrow. I believe the Slipper one is.

  78. Thanks for that Bacchus and Cu. I’ve just left a query on her blog. It’ll be interested to see if she has any more to say about them.

  79. Cu and Bacchus, further to our exchanage above about KJ’s children and their court appearance. It was confirmed by that the boys in court were her sons. This from Vex News is interesting too.

    (blockquote)…….various excuses were offered including her responsibilities as a parent. This is the one subject we are reluctant to go into about Jackson but we will say this: many working mums draw on a variety of resources to bring up their kids, their ex-partners, grandparents, in some cases au pairs, elite private school boarding schools, and other service providers to assist. It’s a juggle for any parent, however they fund it all. Our observation, and recent information confirms, that Jackson was able to draw on a variety of these resources extensively. Normally, none of her domestic affairs would be any of our business and it’s not something we’re that comfortable pursuing but sadly enough she offers up her kids as as a weapon – Iranian mullah style – in the HSU wars and frankly we think it’s the most sickening thing she’s yet done. Decency has gone out the window but her outrageous fibs – implying she’s got the kids at home and is a primary carer – cannot stand. Those intimately familiar with her current personal situation tell VEXNEWS the implication she is the primary carer of her offspring is simply not correct.(/blockquote)

  80. may just be reaching that invisible line.
    All the momentum has been pushing the Abbott-led anti-Government forces into a seemingly natural fall into the Treasury benches. Yet it has all been dependent on the illusion of Abbott-invincibility being maintained. The Gillard Government has been building a track record of impressive proportions and it only needs someone to yell “The Emperor Abbott has no clothes!” and the large and easily swung swinging voter demographic will suddenly find themselves on the other side of the divide.
    Right at this moment we are in that time of waiting, time of possible transition.

    http://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/is-there-a-perfect-storm-ahead-for-tony-abbotta-time-of-waiting/#comments

    He looks so miserable and lost.

    This is the man, that said he is being generous in giving the PM and Minister Burke pairs while they are overseas on business for the Australian people. Of course attending events that have something to do with the world economy and environment is nothing more than waste of money.

    They should be in parliament, so he can rant and rave at them for up to an hour each day with his 50th odd MSSO. As he says the same thing each time, why not replay the previous efforts.

  81. Cu, I agree wholeheartedly..there is only so much bull shizzer which can be flung around until people wake up and think to themselves: Am I looking at the real person, or am I just looking at the bull sh*t.

  82. Few thoughts on Archie’s post.

    Yes, Thomson, even if guilty will be found to be a bit player.

    If those missing files, last seen by Jackson, I believe, turn up, then it will be all bets off.

    Who has the most to gain by the files being missing. They could prove whether Thomson is guilty of not. They could be the unhinging of Jackson.

    We have three possible scenarios, nearly everyone with the exception of Jackson and a couple of pals is corrupt.

    The second is that Jackson is corrupt, and everyone else is innocence.

    The third is that they all are.

    The same with the Slipper affair. Slipper is innocence and has been set up by the Liberal party with the help of Ashby and Karen Doane.

    Slipper is guilty as alleged, has been for decades. If so, it does not explain while he has been endorsed, I think nine times for the seat. Does not explain why Mr. Abbott counted himself as a close friend up to the end of last year. Does not explain why Senator Sinodinos clear his behaviour over a decade ago.

  83. Cu, as per on the Slipper thread. Around about now Peter Slipper will be rather pleased given that the court has subpoened Mal Brough’s emails to Ashby. You know..the ones which Chris Pyne denied even existed between himself and Ashby, and now it seems that emails were also between Brough and Ashby.

  84. Min, I noticed you visit Archie. He gets some wonder pics, does he not.

    There seems to be a growing belief that maybe it is Abbott that could be in trouble. While the right continues with screams, name calling and rants.

    The so called left sites, appear to be saying and seeing things as they are. No name calling , just facts and descriptions of what Abbott is saying and doing.

    We on the left are getting abused and call naive. What is our crime. It appears it is wrong to tell it as it is, The economy is travelling as well as it has ever done.

    Our standard of living is among or even the best in the world. Our future looks bright.

    We are the ones, it is said with the rose coloured glasses.

    It amazes me that one would put at risk all this, to hand over to a man, that promises only one thing. That is to demolish all this government has achieved.

    Hand over to one, that believes the only way he can achieve is to destroy all this government has or intends to do.

    One that does not see, the honorable way to win anything, is to prove you have better policies and have the ability to govern. Mr. Abbott has shown neither of these traits.

    One can go back to his uni days. All we find is a man that is a very capable bully but not much more.

    We have a man who is a Rhodes scholar, degrees in economics and law degree among others, that is happy to be seen as an ignoramus in both.

    His studies in philosophy does not appear to give him insight into the needs of others.

    Mr. Abbott is still that arrogant young man, with a extreme sense of entitlements and sense of his own worth. He has not grown in any way.

    If we look at his past and where he is now, where is the evidence that he will be a worthwhile PM. There is none.

  85. Since he’s actually a part of team Abbott this is the appropriate thread.

    I see Costello hasn’t changed one iota from his days as Australia’s laziest Treasurer under a PM who once was Australia’s worst Treasurer.

  86. Min
    I read that Slipper wanted the case thrown out and costs against Ashby. Now supposedly Ashby was getting pro bono legals from Harmers, so who pays Slipper’s costs if the judge finds in favor of Slipper and the Commonwealth. Can there be a “silent” backer of Ashby’s court case, I suppose what I am asking is can there be a hunt for who is possibly backing the pro-bono legals.

    Then if it is found to be vexatious, i suppose Slipper could go for defamation against News ltd and………..

  87. A little history on Costello would be appropriate here.

    He used to fudge the budget figures, specifically how much was slated for expenditure as compared to how much of that slated expenditure ended up being spent, that he knew it would be damning if the comparisons were made public, so he went to court and won on the grounds of not in the public interest to have the figures suppressed from FOI.

    Just for good measure in another example of the conservatives usurping democracy, the Howard government on the back of that court case changed the rules so it was up to the minister to ascertain what was in the public interest or not.

  88. Sue, costs against Ashby would be a standard requirement. It’s sort of pointing the rude finger, so as to act as a deterrent against people making frivolous accusations.

    Any backer will not be pertinent to the case, but those emails certainly will be. One can make any over the top accusation which one likes, but it isn’t worth one shilling and sixpence halfpenny unless you have factual information.

  89. Yes Tom, and he’s found a paragraph of gobblygook on cost savings that really means “cost shift to the Federal government”.

    Something O’Farrell is currently doing.

    Stupid thing is that Costello, a Federal pollie, is recommending an action to Newman that will nobble an already massively cash starved Abbott government if the Abbott supporters are correct in their belief Abbott will shoo in the next election.

    Abbott will either have to screw the State Liberal governments big time and leave them floundering even worse than the crash they’re currently heading for or he will have to up the GST, which is what the States will probably demand.

    What an utter mess Abbott is making for himself if he wins government.

  90. Thanks for the mention, CU and for the unearned compliment on the pic. I found it on Google, the font of all knowledge 🙂

    And thank you and Min for the comments on my blog. It is appreciated.

    As for the Patricia post which precipitated all this; a wonderful summation of the situation. (I now have a Patricia limerick but it hasn’t yet seen the light of day 😉 )

  91. Archie, the more one reaches the better. I do enjoy your site. It tickle my sense of humour. Reminds us not to take ourselves so seriously.

  92. Mr. Costello had to ditch the normal audit procedures to get the result he desired.

    He has done what the Opposition wants to do with the Federal budget, include the NBNco. Something about one does not include the money for capital works, unless you are Mr. Costello.

    Let him come back with a audit, using regular methods, and one might listen..

    In other words, he has done what he has always done. Build grass houses, that do not represent the fact, then proceed to knock it down.

    It is said there are statistics, damn statistics and lies.

    The Opposition have gone further.

    There are audits, damn audits and sham audits.

  93. Pingback: Cyber Graffiti; Audits « Ærchies Archive – Digital Detritus

  94. The man who never grew up. The Peter Pan of politics.

    When I was a Liberal Student in the late 1980s, you knew you were a proper Liberal if you put up a proposal that goaded the lefties. Proposing something like privatising the refectory or rolling your eyes at condemnations of racism could reduce someone with a big title on a student association to gibbering about Baudrillard while you represented yourself as Addressing Real Student Issues. In a non-compulsory election where you could hold an office with multiple winners, all on less than 50% of the vote, such a position was a winner.

    I’ve moved on from then, and so have most others who were students around the same time; but the small numbers of people who think that represented the model of what politics is and how it should be conducted have not. One of these is the alternative Prime Minister of Australia.

    and

    The Coalition has put all their eggs into the basket of stunts and skulduggery rather than policy. That’s all gone now, egg on faces all ’round (well, it looks like raw egg – that’s as close an analysis as we need, thank you very much). That debacle means the Coalition is left with nothing. One reason why you don’t risk winning ugly is because losing ugly is so unbearable. The Coalition will have years to repent both the sugar-rush that gave them such great polls in 2011, and the fact that they did so little with them.

    http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/goading-and-politics.html

  95. Great plan. Mr. Abbott’s sees the house as his play thing.

    A mischievous voice from the Coalition informed The Age that the Coalition’s tactics group had seriously considered a devilish scheme. Why not make the hapless Burke sit in question time, Rio-less, and ask him not a single question while they got stuck into the other ministers about the dreadful carbon tax? For much of yesterday’s proceedings, that’s just what happened.
    Treasurer Wayne Swan became so exasperated with the Abbott Coalition’s remorseless attack on the carbon tax his sentiments seemed drawn towards Brazil’s treacherous Amazon jungle, too.
    ”Whether it’s a cobra or whether it’s a python, it doesn’t change the fact that the leader of the opposition is slithering around the country with a whole series of poisonous messages and a forked tongue,” he spat.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/burke-feels-heat-from-wrong-sphere-20120618-20k9f.html#ixzz1yBSh4gZ2

  96. Google translate above as …. “Store glasses sunglasses expert to dream of teeth over from tint place to find Gucci can be, from the capital, such as an ophthalmologist. Shopping center summer season or just about festive season, and the mall in the sunglasses vendor who came to you there is a possibility in many cases. Sale genuine Gucci sunglasses, they will stock it away they” 😯

  97. …… and there I was thinking it was an draft of an Abbott speech before Peta got to it … 😛

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