114 comments on “2012 Part 2

  1. In response to Margaret Court’s expressed homophobic views, Tennis Australia has responded.

    Tennis Australia: Court comments her own


    Releasing a statement on the Australian Open website, the organisation said that it respected Court’s record but wanted to disassociate itself from her anti-gay comments.

    “Her personal views are her own, and are definitely not shared by Tennis Australia,” the statement read.

    “We believe that everyone should be treated equally and fairly. This is a fundamental right and principle, including within the world of sport.

    “Anyone advocating otherwise is advocating against fundamental and essential rights.”

    Tennis Australia said it did not support any view that contravenes these basic human rights.

  2. Mrs. Court has her own church….

    Court also claimed in the interview that she regularly converts gay people to heterosexuality at her church.

    “We have them in our church. I help them to overcome. We have people who have been homosexual who are now married,” she said.

    Cough, cough….

    Acceptance shouldn’t cost such a high price in our community

  3. Court also claimed in the interview that she regularly converts gay people to heterosexuality at her church.

    Pip, me thinks she’s talking a load of shit.

  4. A quick Google reveals that it’s the Rev. Margaret Court of the Church in Perth Victory Life Centre..that says it all…it’s a born again movement.

  5. I do not believe it is the UN that is the problem.

    It is the powerful countries that over ride it and follow it decrees whenever it suits them.

    What about all of the little countries being bribed with money, oil and food. Are they not just as much to blame ?

    It is not only the powerful countries that manipulate the whole system. There is guilt and blood on almost every country of the UN.

  6. “Court also claimed in the interview that she regularly converts gay people to heterosexuality at her church.”

    She went further, she said that they are also encouraged to marry. I do hope that the results are better than many in the past, denied their sexuality and entered into disastrous marriages.

    Maybe there are some readers that have married and maybe they would like to share their experiences.

    Shane, that is what I mean, little countries that cannot afford to reject the offers, being manipulated by the powerful.

  7. Pip, obviously why Mrs. Court thinks that she can ‘cure’ homosexuality..precisely the sort of god botherers who I detest the most.

  8. Shane, if you have an iPhone you might be interested in downloading an app called ShopEthical. It looks at the companies behind the items on the supermarket shelves and exposes their abuse of animals, vegetation and workers in poor countries. Some companies, like Nestlé, have a long history of abuse. Quite a good app.

  9. I doubt it. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.

    Anyway, that’s my night done and dusted. I’m having an early one. Cheers all.

  10. Excellent piece by Grog over at the Drum

    What we will hear is talk of increases in strikes, Qantas lock-outs and wharfs disputes. So let’s look again at the facts:
    Yes there has been a spike in the last quarter of the year, but half of those days lost were in NSW which had disputes between the state government and teachers and other public sector industries which were not under the Fair Work Act. So while Heather Ridout might claim the figure to be a “huge wake-up call” for the Federal Government, perhaps she might be better placed to direct her wake-up to Barry O’Farrell (if she was at all concerned about public sector employees).


    You won’t read about these details in the normal rags, or even the news section of theirabc. Only scattered amongst the droppings of numerous ipa fictions in the Drum 😦

  11. We federal servants don’t strike.

    Yea, let’s see what would happen if the latte machine went on the blitz? 😉

  12. On the subject of whales..with the Liberals it’s all just politics. One moment they’re demanding that a vessel be sent out, and now they intend to defeat this self same proposal.

    The federal Coalition has harpooned an Australian Greens proposal that would have required the government to send a patrol ship to monitor the Japanese whaling fleet.


  13. So something is actually happening in the news today, Min. I might force myself to look at new.com to see if there’s any leadership speculation.

  14. Migs, I had to look very hard for it. It’s just the usual from news.com, one story about a tattoo on a woman’s butt, an article about Derryn Hinch and one about foodpoisoning.

    Perhaps all of news.com’s journos are still on holidays, but then on the other hand it would probably be difficult to tell whether or not they were present or absent.

  15. I just found the best piece of news that I’ve heard all day, this is from the Herald Sun.


  16. Does anyone get the impression that Tony Abbott’s promise to shed 20,000 public service jobs might be a tad irresponsible.

    AUSTRALIA is on the cusp of a white collar recession with insiders warning that thousands of jobs are at risk in the finance sector, after it emerged yesterday that ANZ planned to cut 700 jobs.

    But the Herald has established the job cuts will total as many as 1000 by the end of this year, which will be more than the bank shed at the height of the global financial crisis.


  17. Min, “an executive” said:-

    ”Temps have not been rehired once their contract has expired. Secondments have been stopped. We have outsourced two whole floors of operations staff from a [Melbourne] office to Manila [in the Philippines]. If you count all those jobs since October, along with what will be announced in the next week … we will lose more staff than we did as a result of the GFC.”

    Time to look for a bank or credit union who employs locally only ?

    Or is that impossible??

  18. Pip, me thinks that it’s time that the ANZ started to look to it’s management and work out why their market share has gone down the tube.

    Sorry ANZ but shedding jobs might help the numbers look a bit better on the spread sheet, but it doesn’t help future planning.

  19. The groundwork’s being laid. Watch for the next moves…

    Life on the dole a trauma, says Lib
    LIBERAL stalwart Hugh Morgan has joined the growing chorus of conservative criticism over the dole, declaring that surviving on $245 a week must be ”a humbling if not traumatic experience”.

    The former Business Council of Australia president and one-time Western Mining Corp chief executive has added his voice to an unlikely band of conservatives speaking out about the inadequacy of the safety net.

    But Mr Morgan warned any move to consider raising the dole must be done in conjunction with cutting the costs of employment, arguing that greater wage flexibility would help more jobless people into work.

    Last year, conservative economists Judith Sloan and Ian Harper – hand-picked by John Howard to set the minimum wage under Work Choices – called for the dole to be raised. They warned it had fallen so far below other welfare payments and the basic wage that people forced to live on the dole for any length of time were being driven into desperation and depression.

    Last week, they were joined by the outgoing Australian Industry Group chief executive, Heather Ridout, who is soon to join the Reserve Bank board, and Business Council board members John Denton and Robert Milliner.

    Moves are afoot – watch and note. Workchoices MkIII or even IV preparations are progressing…

  20. Bacchus, it is going as planned for the Liberals.

    Every time Mr. Abbott said that WorkChoices was dead, buried and cremated, he always added that he expect industry to mount a campaign to bring it back.

    Liberals seeking a increased in the dole is incredible.

    What they are after is two things, destruction of the unions and individual contracts for all.

    They also want to destroy the industrial courts, which by the way, the Constitution says must exist in some form.

    If any worker believes they can be better off under the Liberal proposals need their heads read.

    There is no evidence that WorkChoices benefited the worker or economy in any way.

    Cutting wages is not the answer and does not lead to prosperity.

    Actions such as Hawke’s Accord and workers and boss pulling together is much more conductive.

    The worker has as much invested in a firm being strong as the boss. Something the the Liberals cannot comprehend. They only see the worker as the enemy.

    One does not have to belong to a union to to feel the benefits.

    Why the Liberals feel they are on a winner with an attack on workers conditions is beyond me.

    At least we have to give Mr. Abbott some credit for resisting the moves of his party. The party sadly has other plans.

  21. When my AWA ended and I went onto the union negotiated certified agreement, my salary went up $9,000.

    So much for being better off under Howard’s Workchoices.

  22. Miglo, Mr. Robb says the no disadvantage cause will stay.

    He and others believe that was all that was wrong with Mr. Howard’s attempts.

    If the unions and awards disappear, what will the no disadvantage be compare with.

  23. I heard a sweet little comment last night: “For all those people who hate unions, feel free to return to six day weeks and 10 hour days”.

  24. If the LNP is really thinking about Workchoices (mark whatever), to be flying kites on the issue is lunacy. One of the main reasons Kevin07 got in was the Unions anti-Workchoices campaign. Whats the bet the 2012/13 version is sitting on someone’s computer now? Whats the bet the more time they have to hone it the more devastating it will be (again)?

  25. Miglo as Cu @ 8.02am points out, Abbott did expect business/industry to
    mount a campaign, and we cannot say we weren’t warned.

    The new Workchoices campaign is well under way, with contributions aplenty from IPA types such as Judith Sloan, and lately Ian Harper.

    Since when has any Liberal or Lib., supporter ever given a hoot about people on the dole…until now….there IS a catch…

    Life on the dole a trauma, says Lib

    LIBERAL stalwart Hugh Morgan has joined the growing chorus of conservative criticism over the dole, declaring that surviving on $245 a week must be ”a humbling if not traumatic experience”.

    The former Business Council of Australia president and one-time Western Mining Corp chief executive has added his voice to an unlikely band of conservatives speaking out about the inadequacy of the safety net.

    But Mr Morgan warned any move to consider raising the dole must be done in conjunction with cutting the costs of employment, arguing that greater wage flexibility would help more jobless people into work.

    The reappearance of Peter Reith, and Chris Corrigan adds to the picture of the pincer attacks on the government from many sides.

  26. Hugh Morgan, if I remember correctly, would be quite happy too if all Aborigines would hand over their traditional lands to the mining companies.

    He’s the sort of Aussie my dad fought for in the war. Not.

  27. Migs @12.32pm. The $s from big business are obviously needed for Liberal party election coffers. Big business will expect something back from the Liberals…that means WorkChoices, and that’s just for starters.

  28. Here’s the rub,

    But Mr Morgan warned any move to consider raising the dole must be done

    in conjunction with cutting the costs of employment, arguing that greater wage

    flexibility would help more jobless people into work.

  29. The underside is that greater wage flexibility will add to increased profits. If the bloke doesn’t care about Aborigines, why should he all of a sudden have compassion for the unemployed?

  30. Pip, and we know how well that one works. A job requires 100 people, therefore if you halve the wages of that 100, the employer will naturally employ an additional 100….

    Mr Morgan is being extremely transparent, raise the dole on the proviso that wages for the already employed be cut.

  31. I believe it was the Howard government that broke the nexus between unemployment and other benefits.

    Sadly Labor continued the practice.

    It was the Howard government that did away with the CES, handing the responsibility for finding jobs to the private and NGO sector. There has been no enquiries into how this works. There is belief that it does not.

    It was the Howard government that tightened and made unemployment harder to get.

    I have used the word unemployment benefits but i agree that the Howard government did make it more akin to dole.

    Lowering wages harms the economy, not the other way about.

    Workers also need to be able to buy to keep th economy strong.

    The example of using the restaurant trade is one that is full of holes.

    This industry is among one of the lowest paid. It is also one where the worker works hard.

    The ones doing the screaming are at the luxury end of the market.

    Has there ever been a time when penalty rates did not apply. Even so, I assume one works out their profit margins over seven days, not just the weekend.

    There is no evidence that the time spent under WorkChoices produced better results, especially productivity.

    Remember we were still operating under WorkChoices until late last year.

    Most of the days lost are because of ridiculous action of two states, taking on the PS and bosses locking out workers.

  32. If one looks at the Cabinet reshuffle, it makes sense.

    We have a PM who looks ahead and has prepared herself for this fight.

  33. Bob, have you checked the top tabs for the comments you are looking – they are possibly under Media Watch or Open Thread.

  34. Min
    Yes they are on another thread. Perhaps I’d better not make any big decisions or operate machinery today.

  35. Stuntman Xenophon out of the loop ??

    Senator Xenophon said that the government was setting up the pokie reform to fail, and that the government was embarking on an act of “political bastardry”.

    Xenophon wrong on pokie reforms: Wilkie

    “In fairness to Nick, he hasn’t been involved in all of the detailed work over the last year-and-a-half whereas I have been,” Mr Wilkie said.

    “So I think I’m probably in a better position to offer an assessment about where we’re at and where we’re going and I have a much more optimistic view of where we’re going than Nick does.”

  36. Federal Liberal director Loughnane is a laugh a minute !

    Labor needs ‘time out’ to rethink: Liberal director

    He also accuses the ALP of running ”an unprecedented negative campaign” of personal attacks on Opposition Leader Tony Abbott to deflect attention from its own flaws.

    The punch line is not so funny…

    He also defended the Coalition from charges that it also has been relentlessly negative, arguing it has voted for 87 per cent of government legislation, only opposing ”bad” policy.

    In an acknowledgement of its potency as an issue, he concedes the Coalition will need a specific mandate for its policy on industrial relations.

    The conservative-controlled Young Liberals yesterday adopted a series of controversial policies, including a call for the repeal of tobacco plain packaging laws.

  37. I saw that story about the Pokies on seven news tonight Pip, and noted that, although this appears to rest solely on the appointment of Slipper as Speaker, they failed to mention a fairly juicy piece of data relevant at the time, namely, that Gillard had re-affirmed with Wilkie that their agreement remains regardless of this appointment.

    I have had a quick look at the stories online, and, true enough, all of these also appear to have forgotten that piece of information.

    Perhaps that is because it renders their story irrelevant if it was introduced?

  38. Pip at 6.46 yesterday
    ‘full of sound & fury, signifying nothing” Is the quote right?. If not it should be. What a beatup simply to give the now largely irrelevant (maybe there is a God?) Xenophon a bit of exposure.

  39. Pip
    He’s fantastically popular here in S.A. Always there with a feelgood uncosted notion, we’re stuck with him for a while.

  40. Andrew Wilkie: Clear Majority of Australians Support Pokies Reform

    Mr Wilkie said polls bounced around and he was not surprised support for the reforms had eased in NSW, the state which has borne the brunt of the pokies industry’s $40m disinformation campaign aimed at protecting its profits.

    “So far the industry’s campaign has included misrepresenting the Salvation Army and the AFL, refusing to tell the whole story and in particular the introduction of low loss poker machines with $1 maximum bets, and hysterical claims about implementation costs, job losses and the impact on community groups,’’ he said.

  41. Greg Jericho/Grog is always thought provoking or entertaining, or amusing …

    this comes under ‘amusing’.

    A leadership challenge isn’t an event where we all need as much warning as possible to prepare for the change. A week will do – ie “It’s on for this week”, anything too much earlier than that is just conjecture mixed with politics and reporting on it is just the New Idea masquerading as the press gallery.


  42. Tom, sounds to be a typical Liberal government…

    The growing debt is causing friction between Treasury officials and politicians, with bureaucrats worried that the Barnett Government is focusing on projects which are politically popular but yield a questionable return for the State.

  43. Pardon me Sky News. What absolute garbage! David Speers..quote: Here might be where Labor might be able to regain some of it’s blue collar heartland that it’s lost over the carbon tax and the poker machine reforms.

    Proof please David..all polls have stated substantial support for the poker machine reforms.

  44. There is further garbage being put out on this, that we need to be more sophisticated when tackling the gambing addiction issue. We need to target the addicts rather than target everyone.

    Now how is this going to be achieved? Are people with an addiction going to carry around signs saying I am a Gambling Addict so that they can be readily identified. Most of the time only immediate family and friends are aware of the addiction, and sometimes not even then.

    But surely the reforms do just this, slower machines or pre-commitment are not going to bother the casual gambler however they will worry the addict quite a lot.

  45. They did not accept that belief when Mr. Howard went ahead with the intervention.

    All Indigenous people were targeted, including the old, those without children and those doing the right thing.

    Never been explained why this was necessary.

    Successful business were dismantled or taken over by the bureaucracy.

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