Media Watch XVIII

We all know just how manipulative, dishonest, sensationalist, gutless, unfair and unbalanced is the media in this country? If, like me, you believe they need to be held accountable for the gross display of injustice they push down the throats of the Australian public then this is the thread in which to voice your opinion.

I intend to keep the Media Watch threads open indefinitely. If anyone sees an example of their lies in action then we’d like to learn about it. We will document everything we can and spread the message as far as we can.

The truth will win in the end.

The Media Watch pages are archived after 400 comments (or thereabouts), as beyond that they can be slow to open if accessed by some mobile phones.

353 comments on “Media Watch XVIII

  1. Fran Kelly was on the radio this morning complaining about Labor not getting their message out. What her segment clearly showed was that it is not Labor not selling their message, it is more our media are just clueless. She didn’t even know that the tripling of the Tax Free Thresh-hold was linked to the Carbon Price. If a ‘leading’ journalist is oblivious to what has been put out so often, what hope for the rest of us. Combet corrected her, but sounded quite incredulous, as he should.

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/carbon-tax-in-action-greg-combet/4104018

    It is about 8 minutes in.

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/personal-tax-cuts-to-sell-carbon-20110709-1h86d.html

    http://www.smh.com.au/money/tax/carbon-tax-explained-20110719-1hm22.html

    There are numerous other mentions of it available, yet tt invariably gets lost amongst the noise and general ignorance of our ‘commentators’

  2. Apologies. Staff cuts mean fewer comments will be moderated (which is why some threads have none showing). There will be no moderating of comments submitted after 5pm.

    Some readers have asked why we don’t just put up all comments, or allow a report-abuse system of control. Blame the restrictions on free speech in this country and the lawfare conducted against this blog. The legal risks are far too high. Result: less free speech for fear of being punished for “bad speech”.

    Press Council take note.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/moderating_issues/

  3. Tom, I am getting that the msm journos are all caught up in the hurly burly..have to be on Facebook, have to Tweet this and that..wait a mo’ that’s 1,000 tweets I’ve missed. It’s not possible to keep up with this..unless you’re an Asperger’s ;)

    Somewhere along the line, the word “focus” has to happen.

  4. PM spruiks carbon price opportunities
    Sabra Lane reported this story on Monday, July 2, 2012 08:06:00

    Could the ABC do with a little more class. Is the word spruik necessary.

    TONY EASTLEY: The Prime Minister Julia Gillard is telling anyone who’ll listen that the carbon tax isn’t to be feared and it’s in Australia’s best interest.

    This morning Ms Gillard is in Darwin for annual talks with the Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

    The Prime Minister is in our studio there and she’s speaking to our chief political correspondent Sabra Lane.

    SABRA LANE: Prime Minister good morning, welcome back to AM. …………………….

    [audio src="http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/am/201207/20120702-am-fullprogram.mp3" /]

    http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3536675.htm

  5. Not quite correct lunalava. David Jones did all the right things when a relatively obscure equity firm made a bid for them. Trading was halted and they didn’t jump in and take the offer.

    From the finance sources I’ve read DJ followed all the correct procedures and was cautious as it should have been. It appears yet again the media is blowing up a story.

  6. News fights to defend journalist’s records

    Well, in truth, what they are trying to do is hide the text messages

    LAWYERS for a News Limited journalist have asked a court to throw out orders forcing him to turn over text and email messages from the staffer accusing stood-aside Speaker Peter Slipper of sexual harassment.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/news-fights-to-defend-journalists-records/story-fn59niix-1226416147887

    It appears that when salacious accusations are made, we have a ‘right to know’. However, when asked to back up these allegations, all of sudden, we’re mushrooms.

  7. Tom, I don’t like their chances as the court wouldn’t have requested the information in the first place if they hadn’t believed that it was relevant to the case. This is beginning to look like a conspiracy ;)

  8. News Limited reserves the right to Harrass, Intimidate, Repudiate, Investigate, Insinuate, Accuse, Defame, Allege, Demand, Invent, Hack and downright F*CK UP anyones life that we deem is not aligned with the political agenda for our lord and master.

    News Limkited also reserves the right to demand that their own employees absolutely and under no circumstances, for absolutely any of the abovementioned actions be held accountalbe or face action which could be detrimental to the business or its ultimate domination goals.

    News Limited reserves the right to belittle Fairfax and comment regarding drop in readership and profit.

    News Limited reserves the right to operate its own newspapers at a loss with declining readership and demands that this not be criticised in the same way as fairfax, simply because it is different.

  9. You forgot.

    News Limited reserves the right of a double standard and crass hypocrisy by not allowing anyone to harass, intimidate, repudiate, investigate, insinuate, accuse, defame, allege, demand, invent, hack, hold to account, tell the truth, expose it in any way, even if those things are factual as that is denying free speech.

    News Limited reserves the full right to be the only one to do those things on its terms alone, anyone else holding News Limited to account for anything is to be hounded, denigrated and destroyed with all the resources News Limited can throw at them. This is called Freedom of the Press, but only for News Limited.

  10. Bolt to me remains the prime example. Bolt with his supposed superior skills, believes that he can denigrate who he wants and when he wants to. Sorry Blot but those white skinned Aboriginal people were not prepared to put up with your cr*p!! Rant for the morning now completed…

  11. Shane at 8:34.

    We understand that you’re not quite yourself at the moment. :mrgreen:

    Speaking of which, how are you mate?

  12. Talking about crass hypocrisy, the ABC24 just had an advertisement for the Drum. The advertisement featured statements by

    Amanda Vanstone, former Liberal minister
    Chris Berg, IPA
    Joe Hildebrand , the Telegraph

    Now exactly what are the Drum advertising or confirming?

  13. Some senior manager at the ABC is working very hard coordinating the questions between the DRUM, Lateline and the 7.30 programs. All the same questions (which could be scripted by the Liberal Party) are getting very boring and predictable.

    What I do not understand, is why a senior Labor Party official does not go to Mark Scott with the transcripts and point out this rubbish. Perhaps he is too busy seeing Liberal Party lobbyists complaining about the proverbial left wing bias.

    I note that Harold Mitchell is convinced that the ABC will run advertising under the new Federal Liberal government, perhaps he knows a bit more about the Libs plans to sell off the ABC.

  14. Annabel Crabb defended the Drum on ABC24 in a Tweet when a series of criticisms against it’s blatant right wing bias was highlighted. She said the left criticise it for having too many from the right on and the right criticise it for having too many of the left on, so it must be balanced.

    Wrong on many fronts, not the least being the right always accuse everyone and anything slightly left of Joseph de Maistre as being rabid pinkos and socialists.

    You only need look at the many right wing posters who state the ABC is left wing biased, when since Howard gutted it, it clearly tilts right.

    To give an illustration of how unreasonably locked into their warped ideological view they are in believing everything but themselves are communist/socialist and out to destroy their sacred way of life, once in an interview with Howard where he was called Mr. Howard or Prime Minister throughout and got by any measure an easy run, the ABC received a bunch of complaints saying their was not enough respect paid to the office of the Prime Minister and the questioning was too forceful and the wrong questions were asked.

    Truth is it matters not what Howard was asked or how well he was treated by the ABC, the ABC would have received those complaints.

    On the other hand it seems that trashing and denigrating the respect for the office of the Prime Minister and courtesy to the PM is now not only OK but to be encouraged, and I would not be surprised if it’s the same people who complained about no respect for the PM and PM Office’s under Howard. And these same people will complain if Abbott is PM and is called he, or Tony or Abbott or anything else other than, “Your greatness, Mr Abbott the magnificent Prime Minister.”

    The duplicity of the right never ceases to amaze me in it’s blatancy and enormous scope.

  15. Mobius, I’ve seen this comment repeated quite often: that she does not receive respect because she doesn’t deserve it. A sure sign of a condescending a*hole, to decide what “she” does and does not deserve.

  16. Talk of a warped ideological view. The media are not beholding to the chattering classes because they perceive too much of a right/left bias. They are free to lean whichever way they like and quite frankly, the chattering classes see themselves as elitests that believe the Australian public are dumb because they can not discern bias.

    Australians are not that stupid, they are capable of making their own judgement…if indeed they are interested.

    This hatred of Murdoch, Fairfax and the ABC is a product of warped ideological views. If you don’t like a particular media organisation, don’t read, listen or watch. Quite simple really but unfortunately the chattering classes need to justify their elitism by excersising their WIVs.

  17. Hey, I don’t have a real problem with any of them. If I want to pander to my warped ideological view I read Mad Magazines from the sixties…Spy V Spy is a parody of modern politics.

  18. “The media are not beholding to the chattering classes because they perceive too much of a right/left bias” WRONG!

    The ABC has this little thing called a charter. Seeing as it is not a commercial operation subject to market forces but rather funded from the taxes levied on the “chattering classes”.

  19. It seems many do not read Fairfax or News Ltd and they are going broke (oh dear, never mind). The ABC has a responsibility to ensure balance.

  20. The right has a very good propaganda unit. One of the oldest tricks is to accuse the other side of behavior that you constantly use .

    Howard had ten years and was on a mission from God to stack the senior management of the ABC with ultra conservative supporters.

    Their priority was to get rid of people like “Red” Kerry O’Brien. Just look at Leigh Sales when she was on Lateline and her performance now on 7.30. It’s as much the guy behind the camera, the “Faceless” men and women who ensure a shallow narrative is maintained. Why does a two year old alleged “broken promise” by the PM still get constant attention while Abbott’s daily lies get swept away under the carpet?

  21. Come on, both sides have very good propaganda units because that is now the main game. Maybe the broken promise/lie getting constant attention because a tax was recently introduced and it will not go away anytime soon.

  22. I told you why scaper. The right always scream bias against them, even when it’s the right doing the reporting and it’s favourable.

    Projection is their favorite tactic and one they employ all the time.

  23. Same could be said about the screaming of bias of Murdoch on this very thread. Projection is everyones favourite tactic. Karl Bitar was a fine exponent of the art and in some circumstances, refined the art.

  24. I might add, I noticed a left-leaning bias of the ABC leading up to the 2007 election, so I’m not being one-sided on this issue.

  25. I see bias everywhere but it doesn’t bother me. I believe Australians can make up their own minds and form their own opinions, regardless.

  26. Scaper, that is completely dependent upon how much factual information one is presented with. One can make up one’s own mind when present with the facts, and free from bias. Today’s media presents opinion as factual information thereby denying Australians the right to make an informed opinion.

  27. They are free to lean whichever way they like

    The private ones can lean anyway they want. But they still need to adhere to their own cose of conduct. ltd news clearly don’t

    Facts must be reported impartially, accurately and with integrity.

    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/pdfs/NewsLimited_ProfessionalCoC.pdf

    The last media watch had another example of this massive failure

    Verifying the veracity of front page stories

    Sydney’s Daily Telegraph seems to have more trouble than most verifying the veracity of its stories. For example, last Monday’s front page:

    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s3537340.htm

    ltdnews are repeat offenders of putting what could best be described as ‘less than accurate’ stories. Interestingly, these stories inevitably always reflect poorly on the Government, never the opposition. Coincidence :?:

    It is truly time that we truth in reporting laws as they do in Canada. Interesting also, that that is one of the few countries murdhoch hasn’t slithered his tentacles into. I wonder why that might be?

  28. I believe it is sources that the journalist fight to support. They are being ask for the information and documents here.

  29. I wonder what chaff bag shock jocks will make of this.

    Roxon at centre of alleged kill threat

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/roxon-at-centre-of-alleged-kill-threat-20120704-21giw.html

    The level of ‘debate’ in this country has become imbued with anger and voilence, fed relentlessly by an opposition not afraid to use a range of violent imagery, and a more than willing media prepared to amplify it for them. Do we need an event like what happened in America to finally sit up and take notice?

  30. Today’s media presents opinion as factual information thereby denying Australians the right to make an informed opinion.

    interesting that you should raise that very valid point Min. From the ltdnews pdf

    1.2 Clear distinction must be made between fact, conjecture and comment.

    I’ll bet steve lewiswished he’d read it too ;)

    Journalists should be reluctant to rely on only one source. Be careful not to recycle an error from one reference source to another. Check and check again.

  31. Tom R

    Steve Lewis probably checked more than one source, that of Ashby. He probably checked with Mal Brough. Chris Pyne and Mark McCardle. And Pyne probably told him about Julie and Tony and………

  32. Last night on Lateline you had Palmer declare he MAY stand for pre-selection in the seat of Kennedy, the seat held by Bob Katter.

    Well as no doubt forseen by the coalition the thought of a Palmer-Katter clash has delighted the first of the msm, with more to follow.

    This morning Michelle Grattan declared to Fran Kelly her absolute delight at such a contest. What else would a political journalist need, she moaned in delight. Nothing could match it, oh the joy!

    Shame for the voters of Australia, as Grattan has just declared her own slogan
    “THERE WILL BE NO ANALYSIS OR HOLDING TO ACCOUNT OF ABBOTT AND COALITION POLICIES, WHILE I AM A POLITICAL JOURNALIST OF THE AGE”

    Thanks Michelle for the heads up, I am sure more of your colleagues will follow.

  33. Tom R @ 1.23pm, 4th.

    I wonder what chaff bag shock jocks will make of this.

    Roxon at centre of alleged kill threat

    The shock jocks won’t see the connection. Won’t, not can’t.

  34. Amazing how easy it is to “throw the switch” to vaudeville and how the “quality” MSM journalists happily follow the pied piper down the road to mediocrity.

    The sooner these clowns go behind a pay wall (into their sheltered workshop) the better it will be for Australian Democracy.

  35. Palmer last night on Lateline. What was he up to. I get the impression he is playing games with Abbott. One gets the feeling, he thinks Abbott is nothing more than a fool.

    Many of his statements appeared to have double meaning.

  36. So to get rid of the evil of News Ltd we need some more paywalls

    “FALLING circulation and stagnant online readership were responsible for the resignation of Herald Sun editor Simon Pristel, media insiders said yesterday.

    Weekday sales of the paper were reputedly down about 50,000 copies from the approximate 520,000 when Pristel was appointed and began taking the paper downmarket. Subscriptions to its website were described as disappointing.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/readers-go-and-so-does-an-editor-20120706-21mot.html#ixzz1zsmqvkYw

  37. If Herald Sun is stagnating WHY OH WHY did the PM throw them a lifeline and do an online chat session?
    Who is advising the PM?

  38. As if people were going to pay for bullshit. Not even those mindless curs the dog whistles were aimed at are going to pay to have their ingrained biases regularly confirmed.

  39. Could not resist it. What amazes me, is the fragile chins of the right wing.

    No one is claiming Abbott is a Nazi but one has to ask why he, and the party he leads, are so doggedly using discredited Nazi propaganda techniques?

    Disgusting hypocrisy.

    And, of course, there is the usual rationalisation of the true deceit, with Robinson parroting the patently false claim that Gillard had no option but to break her promise on the carbon tax.

    By repeating that falsehood ad infinitum and ad nauseam, people like Robinson are lowering the level of political debate in contemporary Australia to that of Germany in the ‘30s. No one is claiming Robinson is a Nazi, but…

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_age_prints_one_of_the_worst_anti_abbott_smears_yet/

    The story that upset him so. Who is and what is a lie.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/taxing-the-truth-why-we-must-not-let-abbotts-dogmas-lie-20120706-21mlz.html#ixzz1ztS6Tu5f

  40. When I was at secondary school, my English class studied a collection of essays, one of which analysed the methods of Nazi propaganda in the 1930s.
    There were, I recall, three components of this: an element of truth; gross exaggeration; and constant repetition.
    I have been starkly reminded of this trilogy by the habitual behaviour of Abbott and his opposition colleagues during the past 15 months.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/taxing-the-truth-why-we-must-not-let-abbotts-dogmas-lie-20120706-21mlz.html#ixzz1zuIKb7kx

  41. Just had a look at news.com. Tony Abbott says Labor’s faceless men are gearing up for another leadership challenge.

    Yawn. :roll:

  42. Yes Migs all based on the fact Therese Rein would not say that Rudd wouldn’t challenge again.

    It’s the, “We’ll ask someone a stupid question that no matter how it’s answered will be framed in the story the way we have already written it. Even if you don’t answer that will be written as confirming our made up story.”

  43. Tony Abbott says Labor’s faceless men are gearing up for another leadership challenge.

    It’ newspoll weekend Migs, they always run with ruddership on newspoll. They are like clockwork (orange?) ;)

  44. The rest of the answers that were left to Combet to answer.

    Great job on the implementation of the carbon tax, you should be applauded, however why could the carbon tax not be just added on to the existing GST arrangements, as this would have increased the cost of products from overseas making the tax more efficient and would truly capture the true cost of the goods people are buying in Australia and be more streamlined and transparent?

    A carbon price is applied to the biggest emitters in our economy to provide an incentive for them to cut their pollution and reward those businesses who produce goods and services in cleaner ways. The main change we will see from a carbon price is the transformation to cleaner energy sources. Amending the GST arrangements would not drive this transformation. It is also impractical to determine the carbon content of goods produced all around the world………………

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/prime-minister-julia-gillard-a-sure-hand-in-selling-carbon-tax/story-e6frf7jo-1226418361895

  45. This morning AM edited out a response by Combet to a question by Samanta Hawley.
    At 6am Hawley was questioning the Coalition’s right to have their posters in small businesses, to which she said “Australia is a democracy” At which point Combet cut in and said “Yes Australia is a democracy and I have a right to answer your question”

    Now at 8am this had been cut out. I will wait to see what is put up on the AM ABC web site before phrasing my comments to the ABC.

  46. Sue, that says so much about “ourABC” and democraxcy

    Tim Dunlop has a new website

    http://www.newsgraf.com/

    Newsgraf is a weekly email for those who need to know what’s happening in journalism – journalists/editors/content-makers.

    We curate the most important media news, summarise it and deliver it to your inbox.

    It’s a practical resource for those who need to stay on top of the ever-changing media landscape.

    You’ll find:

    – The latest research that every journalist and news editor should know.
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  47. The transcript of the ABC AM interview by Samantha Hawley with Greg Combet does not include the 6am question and answer on “Australia is a democracy”. Hawley lost the argument but the ABC won with editorial removal of the poor performance of Hawley.
    Far be it for the ABC to truthfully show a strong response by a Cabinet Minister to an ineffectual journalist.

    A complaint has been lodged, I know nothing will happen.

  48. The current corporate manoeuvres by Gina Rinehart and James Packer have attracted the attention of the corporate watchdog.

    The Australian Securities and Investments Commission is moving to tighten or close legal loopholes used by the multi-billionaires to increase their stakes in Fairfax Media and Echo Entertainment.

    The regulator is seeking to overhaul so-called “creep” provisions where corporate raiders can ramp up their shareholdings by 3 percentage points every six months once they surpass 19.9 percent without paying a premium for a formal takeover bid.

    ASIC’s chairman Greg Medcraft told AM that the legal but destabilising use of ‘creep’ tactics by corporate raiders needed to be overhauled.

    Perhaps we need to think about the UK provision which is put up or shut up. Basically, if you are going to make a takeover offer, it has actually got to be very clear and very committed.

    ASIC chairman Greg Medcraft
    “I think that the current creep provisions are an anachronism. It is basically allowing takeover by stealth which I think is inconsistent with the takeover law in terms of making when there is a change of control and there is a premium to be paid that all parties can share in that,” Mr Medcraft said.

    Asked whether Mrs Rinehart or Mr Packer needed to make formal takeover offers rather than using ‘creep’ loopholes, Mr Medcraft implied that an outright takeover offer would be preferable.

    “I think there is probably a need to clarify the issue of takeover law,” he responded.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-11/asic-seeks-creeping-acquisition-changes/4123342

  49. Cu

    More from above

    “Mr Medcraft did not name Mrs Rinehart or Mr Packer directly. However, he made it clear that the regulator is concerned about recent boardroom battles where the respective chairmen at Fairfax Media and Echo Entertainment have been subjected to high profile personal attacks.
    “Where there are means other than legal or other means used to take control of a board, then I believe that needs to be looked at in terms of the spirit of the takeover laws,” Mr Medcraft said.
    “We are all about making sure that markets are fair and efficient, and particularly that they are fair, ”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-11/asic-seeks-creeping-acquisition-changes/4123342

    Taking control by personal attacks and undermining, seems to be the way in all levels of society not just the corporate world.

  50. Media bosses must stop meddling in our democracy

    The CEOs of all the major Australian media organisations have written a letter to the prime minister denouncing the need for any new media regulation. Assoc Prof Martin Hirst has written his own letter — to the big media bosses, saying: “We did not elect you, so stop interfering in our democratic processes.”

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/philosophy/democracy/media-bosses-must-stop-meddling-in-our-democracy/

  51. Abbott is desperately trying a “look over here” with his “trust me” news grabs on the proposed changes to Industrial Relations.
    Maybe his chances of winning government have sunk faster than a leaky boat after a stream of experts and naval personnel have bucketed his “turn back the boats” rubbish. Latest installment is worth a read:
    Captain Defied Order On Boat

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/captain-defied-order-on-boat-20120711-21wda.html

    Perhaps about could bring back the lash.

  52. Tim Dunlop pwns the IPA

    Why commercial media should learn their ABCs

    Of all the arguments about media that regularly engulf this self-obsessed industry, is there any more tiresome than insisting that we have to close down the ABC, or privatise it, or stifle it in some other way?

    The latest foray into this dismal reiteration of media lemon-sucking comes from John Roskam of the IPA.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4125840.html

    John Roskam…
    The Power Index: thinkers, IPA boss John Roskam at #9

    “I think the IPA has had a tremendous year and I think John Roskam’s done an outstanding job as the head of it,” Liberal Party grandee and IPA board member Michael Kroger tells The Power Index. “I think their views are certainly making a difference.”

    Whether they’re making a difference or not, the IPA is at least getting heard. Under conductor Roskam, the think tank has become the go-to source of conservative commentary for the media. Last year, the IPA and its main spokespeople scored 19,641 press mentions, according to Media Monitors.

    On nearly any given day you can hear Roskam’s lassaiz-faire legion preaching polemic against the mining tax, the carbon tax “nanny state” issues like tobacco reform. Over at the ABC, where journalists and producers are constantly harangued by critics for left-wing bias, they’re as much a part of the furniture as beige cardigans and Dr Who.

    and

    Switzer says Roskam was integral in helping fuel the fire that led to Malcolm Turnbull’s demise as Liberal leader in 2009 and ultimately the scrapping of the original ETS by both major parties. It was the most visible display yet of the IPA’s role in influencing Coalition policy.

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/01/24/the-power-index-thinkers-ipa-boss-john-roskam-at-9/

    Interesting; Liberal “heavy” [or former "heavy"] Michael Kroger was an ABC Board member.at the time of the IPA’s arrival at ABC’s the Drum.

    Then there’s Rupert Murdoch

    More than any other global corporate giant, Murdoch has supported and participated in conservative think tanks in the United States, Britain and Australia. In 1988-89 he took a seat on the board of the Hoover Institution, during the high tide of Reaganism, joining former Reagan official Jeane Kirkpatrick and former Defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld.At the same time, in Australia Murdoch joined the council of the Institute of Public Affairs and remained on it until 2000, regularly giving generous donations to the influential think tank (while his journalists continued to report regularly on the institute and its political campaigns.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/how-an-unpretentious-charmer-became-fixated-on-a-conspiracy-of-liberals-20120127-1qlkg.html#ixzz20NXLhkOw

  53. “We did not elect you, so stop interfering in our democratic processes.”

    The media elected her!!!!

    I believe the voters did, to govern for the good of all. That includes the media, but not it alone,

    The voters also voted for the PM to protect them from the extremes of institutions within the community. That in my eyes, includes the media.

  54. I really appreciate Mr. Denmore’s sense of humour.

    The gnashing of teeth in print journalism about how to save the industry is understandable. But like a shipwrecked crew on a melting iceberg, the victims might spend less time wishing for a change in the weather and more time building a boat out of there.

    Crikey recently canvassed opinions from a range of parties about what they would do if they ran Fairfax. Predictably, the contributions were based on the existing structure. The funniest, from stockbroker Roger Colman, recommended kicking out all the lefties. Presumably this would be to cater to that great untapped market of consumers starved of right-wing opinion.

    http://thefailedestate.blogspot.com.au/

  55. Murdoch and ex-editor trade blows

    There will be no Christmas cards from Rupert Murdoch for his old chum Andrew Neil this year, after the ex-editor of London’s Sunday Times let fly at his former boss in a written submission to Britain’s Leveson Inquiry.

    This morning, Rupert was hitting back on Twitter to his 284,879 followers, with the advice: “Anyone taking any notice of Andrew Neil on me is an idiot”.

    Neil’s key claim to Leveson is that Rupert did ask for (and receive) favours from British politicians, despite swearing on oath to the inquiry that he has never done so.

    http://www.thepowerindex.com.au/head-to-head/murdoch-and-ex-editor-trade-blows/201207121550

    The first example Neil cites is a request Murdoch supposedly made to Margaret Thatcher in the run up to the Wapping dispute with the print unions in 1985. “He (Murdoch) made it clear to me one night in my office,” says Neil, “that he had gone to Mrs Thatcher to get her assurance — to ‘square Thatcher’ in his words — that enough police would be made available to allow him to get his papers out past the massed pickets at Wapping once the dispute got underway. She was fully ‘squared’, he reported. She had given him assurances on the grounds that she was doing no more than upholding the right of his company to go about its lawful business. I remember this because he added that he could never have got the same assurances from the Mayor of New York or the NYPD.”

  56. Eddie, thank you for that..this is to do with the journalist shield laws, that being that there is a legal presumption that journalists do not have to reveal the identity of their sources.

    This is just a guess-timate from yours truly at present, as the law is yet to be tested in court. I would say that generally the legal presumption relates to a case where the material is on the side of the Defence, as clearly the identity of the source could be used as a method of undermining the Defence’s case. However, what about when the source is on the side of the Prosecution..should that source also be shielded from public scrutiny? The person, in this case Peter Slipper has the right to know the identity of those who are providing evidence against him. How to defend oneself otherwise?

  57. The other interesting thing in this case Min is that the sources are already known. Mr Lewis wouldn’t be revealing his sources, just the content of the communications between them.

  58. Bacchus, excellent pick-up on that one. Therefore attempting to invoke the journalist shield laws looks even shakier. Lewis’s lawyers are basically trying to say, X person said something about you, but we don’t want to tell what the something was.

  59. News Limited chief executive Kim Williams has threatened a High Court challenge if the Federal Government pushes ahead with recommendations from the Finklestein inquiry.

    The independent inquiry suggested the creation of a News Media Council to regulate radio, television, print and online news organisations.

    Speaking in Adelaide, Mr Williams said the recommendation was seriously flawed and quite unnecessary.

    He said he was prepared to mount a legal challenge to stop the creation of the regulator.

    “Obviously we’d take the matter as far as we can,” he said.

    “We’ll take it to the High Court.

    “I mean, if people intend to have this stoush, one which is wholly avoidable, if they intend to have it, let’s have it.”

    Mr Williams said the body handling media complaints should be based around self-regulation and free from government influence.

    He says greater government regulation is a “lazy trap” bureaucrats often fall into.

    “When it confronts the changing situation caused by technological or other change, the default reaction of the bureaucratic mind appears to be to reach for more regulation,” he said.

    “It is positively Pavlovian.”

    A separate Convergence Review of media regulation has called for the Government to scrap the existing regulatory body, the Australian Communications and Media Authority, and replace it with a statutory regulator.

    It said the current system of separate regulation for print and broadcast was outdated and recommended content licences be scrapped.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-13/news-limited-boss-ready-for-media-regulation-fight/4129762

  60. The journalist who revealed sexual harassment allegations against Parliamentary speaker Peter Slipper must tell a court of the identity of his source within the next week or cough up a confidential document.

    News Limited’s Steve Lewis has lost his bid in a Federal Court to set aside a subpoena compelling him to produce the document.

    But justice Steven Rares has also stood the matter over until July 20.

    The court has yet to learn if the document reveals speaker Peter Slipper’s media adviser, James Ashby, who filed the sexual harassment claim, or a source who Mr Lewis agreed to keep confidential.

    Justice Rares says Mr Ashby’s s ties to Mr Lewis have already been established in a radio interview and from evidence provided in the ongoing case against Mr Slipper .

    http://bigpondnews.com/articles/National/2012/07/13/Slipper_journalist_on_a_court_deadline_771404.html

  61. CU @ 6.12 pm

    a great example of an oxymoron

    “NEWS Limited chief executive Kim Williams has upped the stakes in the media regulation debate, declaring he is willing to go to the High Court to protect free speech.”

    Whose free speech, definitely not the people who have been victimised by News.

  62. Well, there are many supporters.

    ONLY hours after the Finkelstein media inquiry report was released last week, lecturers from four of Australia’s top journalism schools delivered their instant judgment on the academic website The Conversation.

    Each of the four — Brian McNair from the Queensland University of Technology, Johan Lidberg from Monash University, Alexandra Wake from RMIT University and Andrea Carson from the University of Melbourne — enthusiastically embraced Ray Finkelstein’s central recommendation for a new government-funded regulatory body to sit in judgment of news reporting.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/finkelstein-report-medias-great-divide/story-e6frg996-1226295437607

    Pity what they have to say is behind a paywall.

  63. Mining magnate Clive Palmer is contemplating a foray into online news, which he says could offer a lifeline to sacked Fairfax reporters.

    Mr Palmer is considering launching an online newspaper called Rage, which he says would improve media diversity.

    “One of the things we are thinking about very seriously is running an online news service across Australia and offering hope to all of the journalists that have been dismissed with the Age and Fairfax,” he told reporters in Brisbane.

    “We have now sought the trademark on the name Rage because I thought that could be a good thing, and we may have that online soon.”

    Meanwhile Mr Palmer says he still has not decided if he will run for a seat in Federal Parliament.

    After abandoning his tilt at the Brisbane seat of Lilley, held by Treasurer Wayne Swan, Mr Palmer said he may challenge for Bob Katter’s seat of Kennedy, or run in Fairfax.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-14/palmer-considers-foray-into-online-news/4130736

  64. t’s time you journalists woke up and exposed this man for his destructiveness, which is tearing apart the fabric of this nation. I know many of you are under instruction from Rupert Murdoch, but try showing some guts for a change and call this man for the destructive person he is.

    It is NOT the job of the Opposition to oppose everything, but to oppose ONLY those measures that are ideologically anathema to it. For the rest, we ought to be able to expect collaboration between the parties in the national interest. What a calamity it is that this is not the case.

    What do you think?

    http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2012/07/14/Is-the-job-of-the-Opposition-to-oppose-NO.aspx

  65. Pip @11.01am, do you reckon Williams said that with a straight face?

    …….offering hope to all of the journalists that have been dismissed with the Age and Fairfax….

    Clive, how about offering a bit of hope to us punters who are desperate for a glimpse of that most rare and endangered beast, honest, unbiased, truthful political reporting. I don’t hold out much hope of that, if Clive gets his paws on any sort of news service, online or not.

  66. Some have been trying for weeks to get this off the ground. Bolt is the leader of the pack.

    No surprise really that The Australian has brought an attack on Julia Gillard out from the underground world of chain emails into the mainstream media.
    A story from her past as a lawyer for a trade union official accused of misappropriating union dollars is perfect fodder for smears and innuendo.

    Not a helpful story for the Prime Minister but probably less damaging than the widely circulated emails containing the allegations on which the story is largely based.

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/thestump/2012/07/15/attack-on-gillard-out-from-the-underground/


    If McClelland is guilty as charged, he should be expelled from the Labor Party. No ifs or buts.

    It is nice to see this week, some Laborites getting up and showing some dissent.

    This should be the norm.

  67. An interesting read, especially considering the discussion across this site and others of the attack of the Right

    “Challenge to print media regulation would almost certainly fail

    Williams’s (News Ltd) threat is unusual given no legislation has been passed, nor has the government even declared its hand. It shows how opponents of federal government policies are willing to quickly shift their focus from Parliament to the courts.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/challenge-to-print-media-regulation-would-almost-certainly-fail-20120716-226e5.html#ixzz20prLRxF1

  68. Gosh I didn’t realise there were any benefits from John Howard’s Workchoices legislation, but apparently the Right in the msm have Howard to blame for possible media regulation. Talk about ‘karma baby’

    “The possibilities for regulating print opened up in 2006 when the High Court upheld John Howard’s Work Choices legislation. In doing so, judges gave a very wide reading to the federal power over ”trading corporations”.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/challenge-to-print-media-regulation-would-almost-certainly-fail-20120716-226e5.html#ixzz20ps14tLT

  69. However, as with the mining tax and carbon price, a constitutional attack on new print media regulation is very unlikely to succeed.
    The Commonwealth has always had the capacity to regulate television and radio because of the High Court finding that they fall under the power in section 51 of the constitution to make laws for ”postal, telegraphic, telephonic, and other like services”. On the other hand, there is no suggestion these words extend to the print media.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/challenge-to-print-media-regulation-would-almost-certainly-fail-20120716-226e5.html#ixzz20r6B5yX4

  70. Tom R
    As soon as I saw who the new editor was it confirmed that I would not buy a subscription.

    The Tom Cummings tweet I read the article and thought the msm had deliberately lied for the headline, which will of course aid in their demise. The other thing about the gotcha headline, it then gave free advertising / story to the anti-pokie lobby, oh dear what a shame.

  71. Sue, thanks for those links to the Age article. Reading the comments too helps one understand why the government has been rather low key so far in tackling the issue. Quite apart from new legislation having the potential to shore up a future propagandist Abbott govt. it’s easy to see how the current duopoly will fight a reform moving from self regulation to a statutory body. Any effor to change the status quo becomes an attack on ‘freedom of speech’ – as if that really existed any more. Mind you Bob Hawke bears as much responsibility as anyone for allowing Murdoch to destroy that, as do any Australians who own shares in News Corp and benefit from its profits. Does anyone, including Hawkie, think about how they’ve sold our right to know and to express our views, as they watch share prices for News keep growing?

    John Milton’s Areopagitica,
    Crying freedom for the press
    Back in 17th century England,
    Resisted monarchy’s excess.

    His tract was a mighty weapon
    In democracy’s progress.
    We are the beneficiaries
    Of his most eloquent address.

    But we ‘free-born’ are complicit,
    As we watch and acquiesce
    While that freedom is abused
    With a brazen shamelessness.

    We encouraged one man’s ambition
    To buy up, control, possess
    As property our thoughts in print,
    And we applauded his success.

    We shared profits with this behemoth
    Who now destroys our happiness
    And publishes news of the world,
    Writ as he commands it be expressed.

    This threat of global tyranny,
    Warns that it’s time to re-possess
    What for him is now a licence
    To break all rules and decency transgress.

    Our precious freedom so perverted
    Has caused democracy’s regress.
    Let’s use our laws while we still can,
    Redeem ourselves, and truly free the press.

    http://polliepomes.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/remember-true-liberty-is-when-free-born-men-speak-free/

  72. Cassidy has a rare moment of insight.

    One of the Prime Minister’s problems is that if you were to take a straw poll of federal parliamentary press gallery, probably 80 per cent on my soundings would predict the demise of Gillard before the end of the year.

    They are, of course, only guessing. They don’t know. How could they know? How could they know with any clarity whether Rudd’s numbers will grow to where they need to be?

    But that kind of mind set has a self-fulfilling prophecy to it. The journalists don’t want to be wrong, whether they make the predictions in public or in private conversations among their peers. They become willing participants in what to many of them is the only game in town.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/cassidy-leadership-speculation/4141546

    And yet these vapid tools complain to us about their precious ‘business model’ and the nasty old internet. “The only game in town” bullshit. It is in reality nothing but a background noise, amplified out of all control by empty heads too talent-less to analyse real issues, to scared to dissect politics for what it is, and, as a result, become the tools of a politician, rather than a gatekeeper to democracy.

    It is also interesting how this background noise gets amplified out of all control every two weeks, corresponding directly with the very newspoll that these tools claim is the cause of all this naval gazing.

    Self-fulfilling prophecy indeed, fully-enabled by those claiming it is self-fulfilling.

  73. Bushfire Bill is one to take notice of over at PB. He has been proven accurate many times previously, and, I think (hope) he will again. I also hope he doesn’t mind me copying such a large amount of his post

    It’s a race now, to see who will go down first – the government or Murdoch.

    Many don’t seem to understand the true implications of the Ashby case.

    This Monday coming News Ltd will be in the dock of the Federal Court of Australia to answer charges of an abuse of process in attempting to concoct a story with the intention of bringing down the elected government.

    It is alleged they have done this by being complicit in concocting a charge against the Speaker of homosexual harassment.

    Let that sink in for a few seconds.

    Then consider where it could lead, if proved.

    In Australia Murdoch wants Foxtel. In the UK Murdoch wants BSkyB. These are worth billions and billions between them in cost and potential revenue, but not to the News Corp Print division. Rather its the recently constituted News Corp Entertainment division that stands to gain.

    The print division, serially underperforming and unprofitable (but the old man’s favourite) has been cut loose from the main News Corp company.

    Already Print’s disastrous performance in the UK has all but wrecked the BSkyB deal. There is a faint hope BSkyB could be resurrected if everything – repeat everything – goes well after this.

    Imagine if another part of News Corp Print ruined another lucrative Pay TV deal for Entertainment, this time the Foxtel takeover.

    You’d have to be a fool to believe that any repercussions of dirty doings here in Australia (of an almost exactly equivalent nature to the ones already uncovered in the UK) wouldn’t fly back across to the UK and kill BSkyB again, this time with a stake through its heart.

    This would be too much for News Corp Entertainment to stomach. They’d be wanting to get rid of the old man, and his family, and pronto.

    They can’t take another scandal like the NOTW Scandal.

    The Hack-Gate scandal started out small: a few complaints, a couple of questions, a wheelchair-bound country town solicitor running a small case.

    Look at it now.

    Arrests, charges, resignations, supergrasses, hundreds of millions paid out, judicial inquiries, the closure of newspapers, the loss of a huge Pay TV deal.

    And it’s hardly even got to court yet!

    In Australia, it’s already in Court. We’re starting out, not with a few letters to the editor, or an interview, or some routine enquiries. We’re starting out already in court, a couple of rungs down the ladder form the highest court in our land.

    This could be very, very big. And it looks like it’s starting Monday in earnest when Lewis and News Ltd will finally be in the dock, fighting for their lives, charged openly with corruption for political purposes.

    It’s that serious. If you don’t think so, check out just how much News are throwing at it even in the interlocutory stage. It’s already cost near to a million dollars.

    I mean it: we’re talking big stakes here.

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2012/07/16/essential-research-57-43-to-coalition/comment-page-80/#comment-1347448

  74. wow, just wow. pyne must be getting nervous as hell right now, for him to start lecturing a judge on how to run his own courtroom

    A JOURNALIST at the heart of the Peter Slipper scandal should not have to reveal his sources, the manager of opposition business says.

    Christopher Pyne says News Limited journalist Steve Lewis should not be forced to hand over a document revealing a confidential source’s identity.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/business/breaking-news/protect-slipper-journos-sources-pyne/story-e6freuz0-1226430548077?sv=12e313f6d55fd02004b4bfab4ac86d60

    Again, as Bushfire Bill highlights, the judge has already made a determination in this respect, sorry whyney pyney, It is out of your hands now. It is up to the courts

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2012/07/16/essential-research-57-43-to-coalition/comment-page-81/#comment-1347466

  75. Tom, yes indeed journalists have the convention of being able to protect their sources but as this is the prosecution then clearly you cannot *prosecute* someone without the accused being advised of the accusation and who made it.

    If as per Pyne you say that a journalist’s sources take precedence over the rights of the accused..well then sorry Pyne, but you’re wrong.

    From your link..Pyne said the scandal was yet another reason why the government should call an election. Pyne is being Abbott-lite in the boss’s absence…

  76. I also believe the judge has stated that Lewis does not have to name his source but only hand over the content, which had Lewis in a flurry attempting to delay the order.

    The content of the correspondence must be explosive against News Ltd and the opposition, they are going to inordinate lengths to keep it from the court.

    I also believe a judge can also ask that complete correspondence be handed over in confidence so they can make a judgement but not make the contents public.

  77. I think the actual case of the document was that , if the source in it is Ashby, hand it over, cos Lewis himself had already exposed him as a source on radio (with some help from a poster at PB I might add). If the source is someone else, then it may well stay confidential.

    I think they are determining that as we speak?

  78. Mobius, I should imagine that the more the prosecution attempts to deny putting the facts before the court, the more p*d off that judge is going to become. Judges are there for a reason, that is experience and they’ve seen it all before and done it all before.

    Yes a judge can do that. Mostly it’s due to self-incrimination. I am not getting that this is the case but rather as you suspect that the contents are indeed going to be explosive.

  79. I heard about the 7.30null last night. Apparently, after wasting all the time on leadershit again, she then had the balls to complain that Labor just can’t get their message out.

    Their breakfast table must be a bland affair.

    “Gillard gone by Feb”

    “I’ll take March.. no June..”

    “what year?”

    FFS

  80. Tom, that’s the same tactic as we’ve been noting..it seems for eons…provide zilch factual information, spread a few rumours, run with endless speculation, then follow through with pontifications about how the government can’t get it’s message out.

  81. Lewis doesn’t have to produce a document BUT his text messages will be available.

    “The Commonwealth and Peter Slipper will be able to use text messages sent between James Ashby and his alleged co-conspirators as evidence in support of their abuse of application set down for Monday.

    Lewis’s barrister, said the reporter maintained that he did not have to produce a document captured by a subpoena issued on behalf of Mr Slipper in support of the abuse of process application.
    Advertisement

    Lewis claims the document could identify a confidential source and that new “shield laws” protected him from having to disclose that information.

    The Commonwealth and Mr Slipper accepted Mr Leopold’s contention.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/ashby-text-messages-allowed-as-evidence-20120720-22efq.html#ixzz2186TAbUS

  82. Here is a hint for Heather and Barry at the kitchen table.
    When you have a story such as the one last night on 7.30, about the country needing more skilled workers. Rather than segue onto Gillard leadership, how about: How are the states reacting

    Victoria cutting TAFE
    Qld slashing 23 million from education.

    Of deary me, that sounds a bit too hard, it may take a journalist a bit more time and energy, than repeating what the group is thinking.

  83. Tom R @ 9.58am, I wrote to a friend this morning that I’d like the government to come out swinging against Murdoch and his loyal minions; hopefully this is it..

    From your link

    In Australia, it’s already in Court. We’re starting out, not with a few letters to the editor, or an interview, or some routine enquiries. We’re starting out already in court, a couple of rungs down the ladder form the highest court in our land.

    This could be very, very big. And it looks like it’s starting Monday in earnest when Lewis and News Ltd will finally be in the dock, fighting for their lives, charged openly with corruption for political purposes.

    It’s that serious. If you don’t think so, check out just how much News are throwing at it even in the interlocutory stage. It’s already cost near to a million dollars.

    I mean it: we’re talking big stakes here.

  84. Murdoch’s power exposed in McKnight book, but others let off hook

    What is new in McKnight’s book is the scope of Murdoch’s political ambit. Murdoch promotes the Tea Party in the US (the most reactionary wing of the Republicans), he has funded right-wing political causes (including secret financing of ultra-Thatcherite activists and US neo-conservatives) and he runs loss-making conservative magazines and newspapers aimed at shifting the White House and the Republican Party even further to the right.

    Murdoch’s more overt media assault is noisily dominant. His US cable news channel, Fox News, is populism on steroids, fronted by angry, bullying “shouting heads” who spruik fear (of terrorists, liberals, gays, etc.).

    Although preaching to just 3 million viewers, its political virus spreads far wider. It also does in Australia, where Murdoch’s reactionary ranting, aided by his 70% control of Australia’s newspaper market, “sets the agenda” and the political tone for other media (radio, television, on-line news and the “Twitterati”).

    One of the biggest consequences of Murdoch’s rise as a newspaper and television mogul, says McKnight, is not so much the “tabloidisation” or “dumbing down” of the industry (through his formula of “sleaze, scandal and crime stories”) but his political influence, especially cementing Australia and Britain into a military alliance with the US.

    http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/51655

    and this…

    In return for ideological services rendered, Murdoch receives handsome favours from politicians. He plays favourites with those most eager to cultivate approval.

    Murdoch, for example, dumped Britain’s Tories for New Labour at the 1997 elections because Labour posed less of a threat on media regulation restricting cross-ownership of large newspapers and free-to-air TV.

    All those meetings with politicians are for some purpose and not just a convening of a mutual appreciation society.

    .

    It seems very clear that our current Prime Minister didn’t want to play his game…

  85. It seems very clear that our current Prime Minister didn’t want to play his game…

    Neither did Gough, Pip, and look what they did to him.

  86. News ltd running low on stories, they are now recycling stories

    i suppose running the never ending leadership rubbish on gillard, gives them license to rerun the campbell newman car accident

    this from 4 july

    http://www.news.com.au/national/premier-campbell-newman-in-car-crash-on-sunshine-coast/story-fndo4ckr-1226416470385

    this from 21 july

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/premiers-car-whacked-in-nasty-crash/story-e6frfku9-1226416615070http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/premiers-car-whacked-in-nasty-crash/story-e6frfku9-1226416615070

  87. This fella is more annoying than Abetz!

    Liberal senator founded group campaigning for Rinehart influence

    A CONSERVATIVE activist group leading calls for Gina Rinehart to be appointed to the Fairfax board was created by the Liberal firebrand Cory Bernardi, a senator with ties to the mining billionaire.

    The group, CANdo, was formed by Senator Bernardi in 2010 as a conservative alternative to the progressive activist group GetUp! It is now run by Jai Martinkovits, who is also the executive director of Australians for Constitutional Monarchy.

    Mr Martinkovits said the group, which yesterday picketed the headquarters of Fairfax Media – the publisher of the Herald – had about 8000 members nationally and wanted to see Mrs Rinehart, the world’s richest woman, on the board because she was a successful businesswoman and a ”great Australian patriot”.

    But he rejected outright claims that Mrs Rinehart or her company, Hancock Prospecting, provided any money or encouragement to his group.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/liberal-senator-founded-group-campaigning-for-rinehart-influence-20120717-228ot.html#ixzz21GSPpt6Z

  88. News Corporation chief Rupert Murdoch has stepped down as a director from a string of boards overseeing The Sun, The Times and Sunday Times newspapers in Britain, the company said in an internal memo.

    It has led to fevered speculation that Mr Murdoch could be positioning to sell his newspaper group.

    The resignations follow the announcement in June that News Corporation will be split into two separate companies: a smaller publishing division and a much larger entertainment and TV group.

    “I wanted to let you know that Rupert Murdoch has resigned as director of a number of companies, including NI Group Limited, known to most of you as News International, and Times Newspapers Holdings Limited,” Tom Mockridge, the head of Murdoch’s British newspaper arm, said in the email.

    “As you may be aware, Rupert resigned from a number of UK boards, including News Group Newspapers and Times Newspapers Limited, some time ago.

    “He has also stepped down from more than a dozen boards of companies with interests in the US, Australia and India.”

    Mr Mockridge said the decision formed part of the preparation of the business for the impending restructuring into two companies.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-22/rupert-murdoch-quits-board-of-british-papers/4146206

  89. CU
    Murdoch leaving News International sounds like Hardies moving a company offshore.
    For Murdoch it is cut off the area that is diseased, its power is diminishing rapidly, leave it without funds to fight the litigants and move to another company with the new medium and retain political power.

  90. Sue, also Australian papers…

    AUSTRALIAN businesses are among the more than one dozen News Corporation boards from which chief executive Rupert Murdoch has resigned.
    Access All Areas – Digital Pass

    The move has raised speculation about whether Mr Murdoch is preparing to distance himself – or even sell – his newspaper group.

    The company told staff in Britain and revealed in UK regulatory filings over the weekend that its boss had last week resigned as a director of News Corp subsidiary boards in Britain, the US, Australia and India.

    and

    Last week Mr Murdoch stepped down from a number of boards, many of them small subsidiary boards, both in the UK and US,” a spokeswoman for News Corp’s British publishing arm, News International, said on Saturday.

    The company boards include News Corp Investments, News International Group and Times Newspaper Holdings.

    News Corp plans to split its entertainment division from its struggling, revenue-draining publishing business.

    Mr Murdoch has said he would be chairman of both companies, with analysts divided on whether he will sell down his stake in newspapers under shareholder pressure.

    and

    Media analyst Claire Enders told Britain’s The Telegraph that Mr Murdoch and his son James’s earlier resignations came because they were no longer welcome in the UK and their departure would be “complete and permanent”.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/murdoch-resigns-from-news-corp-boards/story-e6frf7k6-1226431949636

  91. Rupert Murdoch Isn’t Getting Out of Newspapers
    by Andrew Neil Jul 22, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

    After a year of scandal, the mogul stepped down from boards of several of his U.K. newspapers. Andrew Neil on why the spin doctors need to relax—Murdoch’s not getting out of the business.

    The boards he’s resigning from have no power and very rarely meet. They’re boilerplate corporate structures masking the fact Murdoch is in complete control of his U.K. papers.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/22/rupert-murdoch-isn-t-getting-out-of-newspapers.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=cheatsheet_morning&cid=newsletter%3Bemail%3Bcheatsheet_morning&utm_term=Cheat%20Sheet

  92. Migs , J. just came across this little gem about F1 boss Bernie Eccleston

    Ecclestone testified in 2011 at the trial of German bank executive Gerhard Gribkowsky, who was convicted of accepting a $44-million backhander from the racing boss, although Ecclestone insisted he paid the sum under duress, not as a bribe.

    http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/f1-grand-prix/german-courts-take-aim-at-ecclestone-1.1346114#.UAwR8vVck3x

    How could anyone pay FORTY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS under duress, [not a bribe] hmm…

    These old codgers live in a different universe to ordinary mortals.

  93. hey’ve also successfully predicted 18 of the last two recessions.

    and yet, it is being played out across the pages of the low-life bastards a fete complete.

    And then, the next story, they wonder why business confidence doesn’t reflect our actual trajectory?

  94. Tom @ 8.05am, from your link

    We were not the only television station to visit the family’s property. Our reporter did go to the house but left immediately he was told the family wished to make no comment. Our reporters and camera crews know that grieving families have to be approached with sensitivity and compassion.”

    Really ??

  95. The PM needs to be given a copy of the 7.30 interview by Leigh Sales with Bill Shorten, it is a good example of why with the media repeats, the message does not get through. If the government cannot get any decent questions on real issues with the ABC they may as well rely on social Media.

    As Shorten said, it is your show ask whatever you like but if you aren’t going to bother testing the government and opposition on policies, then why bother. Shorten tried mentioning issues important to the electorate but Sales then rushed out her list of pointless gossip nothingness.
    Sales was once an investigative journalist, now she repeats a list of pointed opinions as directed by the offscreen directors, news editors or whatever..

  96. Sue, I was just reading some comments elsewhere about this one. There is no challenge in the media to the “pointless gossip nothingness”. Perhaps Café Whispers @7.30pm..and our front man/woman would be..I dob in Migs because I know that he enjoys public speaking. ;)

  97. The Murdoch phone hacking, got information from stolen cellphones

    allegations that information was obtained from stolen cellphones, significant payoffs were made to public officials, and “medical, banking and other personal records”

    ‘The police are aware of information that Mr. Murdoch’s papers obtained from two stolen cellphones, she said. One was in Manchester, in northern England, and the other in southwest London. She said that it seemed that one of thee phones had “been examined with a view to breaking its security code,” in order to gain access to its contents. The authorities are trying to establish whether the thefts were isolated incidents, or “the tip of the iceberg,” she said.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/world/europe/murdoch-probe-extends-to-cellphone-theft.html?_r=1&hp

  98. As Shorten said, it is your show ask whatever you like but if you aren’t going to bother testing the government and opposition on policies, then why bother.

    I just watched that segment, and it was worst than bad. The upside is, even sales looked a bit embarrassed by the end of the interview. Shorten handled her well. Didn’t lose his temper, just scolded her like a pre-schooler misbehaving. And he scolded her with reason, which just left her speechless.

    This is what they ALL need to do every interview

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-23/temby-report-reveals-depth-of-hsu-east-quagmire/4148910

  99. As the government considers the Finkelstein report I hope they consider these wise words from the Leveson inquiry

    “Dowlers and McCanns ‘oppose newspapers’ plan for new regulator’

    Lawyer for victims of press intrusion tells Leveson inquiry that Lord Hunt and Lord Black’s proposals are ‘hopeless’

    “The simple fact is that Lord Hunt’s proposal is not, as the inquiry has heard, what the victims would require. Its starting point, its whole premise is what is acceptable to the industry. But forgive me, we’re not here solely to decide what is acceptable to the industry,” Sherborne told the inquiry on Tuesday in his closing statement.

    “We’re here because the industry is not acceptable to the public, with whom there seems to have been no consultation by Lord Hunt’s team.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/24/dowler-mccann-newspaper-regulator

  100. Then the government could look at this as well, especially with Murdoch at 70% in Australia and the goveernment “just cannot seem to get its message out”

    “Rusbridger urged Lord Justice Leveson to consider the “significant dangers to democracy” of media power being concentrated in too few hands and warned that there would be more consolidation in the industry, not less.

    Many of the abuses uncovered by the Leveson inquiry would not have happened if Rupert Murdoch’s News International had been prevented from achieving such a dominant position in British media”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/24/murdoch-dominance-press-abuses

  101. Tom R
    July 24, 2012 @ 10:20 am

    from your link to the Shorten interview

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-23/temby-report-reveals-depth-of-hsu-east-quagmire/4148910

    As Shorten said, it is your show ask whatever you like but if you aren’t going to bother testing the government and opposition on policies, then why bother.

    The ABC won’t bother testing this little gem either:-

    Suspended Labor MP Craig Thomson’s name is only mentioned a few times and the report points out that "many see him as the protégé of Michael Williamson"

  102. FFS
    look at this headline and compare it to the bollocking Gillard got about her comments to the Europeans, which were outright lies by the Murdoch sleaze

    Abbott talks tough during China visit

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-talks-tough-during-china-visit-20120724-22nkw.html

    Europe bristles after Julia Gillard’s nagging over economic management

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/archive/national-old/europe-furious-at-julia-gillards-nagging-over-economic-management/story-e6freuzr-1226401649109

    If nothing else the sexism in the headlines is appalling
    Abbott – macho
    Gillard – a nagger

    And the msm wonders why their newspaper sales fall.

  103. Sue, the headlines were absolutely extraordinary as it was the Canadian PM who gave the Europeans earache and caused all the “bristling”.

    But I can just imagine the frenzy from the msm if the PM had been the one “talking tough”.

    And yet they still have the gall to say the ALP fails to get their message out. Bit hard when they can’t even be bothered to report the news accurately.

    Bet none of the tv outlets dared to show the footage of the Canadian PM giving the Europeans a serve and the European response.

    And Shamaham still perpetuates the lie!

  104. Sue, I notice that well over 50% don’t think Liealot’s approach will do us any good in the relationship with China.

  105. Jaane
    today on News24 there was an interview with a female spokeperson replying to the Abbott speech. The reply was all nuanced in diplomatic speak, but boy oh boy the Chinese were definitely not happy.
    And in a couple of weeks Bishop and Truss lead a group of coalition MPs for more of these talks.

  106. So far, there is no mention of this in the main stream media..

    Media Release

    Senator the Hon Stephen Conroy
    Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy
    Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate
    Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity

    Gillard Government provides $5 million to 14 local governments to deliver NBN-enabled services

    Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy, today announced that the Gillard Government is providing $5 million to help 14 local governments take advantage of the National Broadband Network to provide better services to their communities.

    “The NBN has the capacity to revolutionise the way local governments interact and provide services to their communities,” Senator Conroy said.

    “The fast, affordable, and reliable broadband delivered by the NBN allows local councils to put residents and ratepayers at the heart of local government service delivery – where they should be. Ultimately, this means better, more accessible and more convenient services, delivered more efficiently and with less hassle.”

    The Digital Local Government program is providing funding of up to $375,000 to each local government representing 40 communities among the first to benefit from the NBN.

    “The 14 local councils in this round of funding span from Goodna in Queensland to Geraldton in Western Australia and Midway Point in Tasmania. Across Australia, local councils are embracing the NBN because they see the difference it can make to their communities.”

    The funding will be used to deliver a range of NBN-enabled services, including high-definition videoconferencing to enable greater access to council staff and improved efficiencies in council operations.

    “High-definition videoconferencing over the NBN is a great way to bolster important frontline support delivered by councils, as well as other services that require significant consultation, like building and development applications,” Senator Conroy said.

    http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2012/119

  107. Revealing poll, and puts the blame right where it belongs.

    Findings are showing that most Australians are very confused about climate change though they basically believe it’s happening. They state conflicting information is the cause for their confusion.

    So who do they blame for the conflicting information?

    When 1,131 Australians were asked how they perceived the performance of key sectors in addressing climate change, guess who came off with the worst rating? After two solid years of Mr Abbott’s “toxic tax” attack, you’d think the federal government would cop most of the blame from voters. But it didn’t.

    The standout worst performing sector, as recognised by its purportedly valued customers, was the media.

    As commented on:

    “Surely Australians don’t think the media has a responsibility for taking action on climate change”, I hear the Bolt, Albrechtsen, Akerman troika ruminate. Again they’d be way out of step with community sentiment given 82% of respondents to The Climate Institute’s report said the media should be taking a leading role or contributing towards action on climate change, compared to 89% for the federal government.

  108. Media Release

    Senator the Hon Stephen Conroy
    Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy
    Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate
    Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity

    Coalition has no plan for fibre in regional Australia

    The Coalition should stop misleading the Australian people about the National Broadband Network and come clean on their own broadband plans, Minister for Broadband, Communications, and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy said today.

    “Since the Government’s press release of April 2009, an Implementation Study by McKinsey and KPMG recommended that it was cost effective to increase the coverage of NBN fibre from 90 per cent to 93 per cent of Australia.

    “This means that under the Gillard Government, NBN fibre will reach 70 per cent of homes and businesses in regional Australia. This includes towns with less than 1000 premises where they are on the NBN transit network, such as Inglewood in Queensland, Brookton in Western Australia, and Trentham in Victoria.

    “The Government announced that it would adopt this target on 20 December 2010 and released a list of towns that would receive fibre.

    “In the intervening eighteen months, the Coalition has sat on their hands and developed no broadband plan.

    http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2012/120

  109. Judith Ireland . “journalist”.. biased much.

    How well does Gillard really know Canberra?
    JUDITH IRELAND
    26 Jul, 2012 12:58 PM

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard is rousing on the big bad states of Victoria and New South Wales today for not coming to the party on the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

    Lucky for the ACT, we’re in the good books, because one of the three agreed trial sites is going ahead here.

    Today, to applaud the ACT and continue to guilt trip the others, Ms Gillard visited Black Mountain School for special needs students in O’Connor.

    http://www.katherinetimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/how-well-does-gillard-really-know-canberra/2636493.aspx

    No readers’ comments were allowed.

    Homework assignment for Ms Ireland.

    500 word essay, not opinion, on why the NDIS is so unimportant that it can be politicised.

  110. Pip
    what about
    What does Ireland know about the NDIS?
    What do the families and carers of the kids of the Black mtn school think of now being part of the NDIS launch?
    Does Ireland know or met anyone with a disability?
    What would they think of Ireland’s opinion piece?

  111. Yes, yes, yes.

    ABC Planet America going on about Romney’s gaffes overseas mentioned his gaffe on Carr’s actual words, you know the ones Bishop made such brouhaha over, saying the gaffe was actually by the media who misquoted Carr and got the whole conversation wrong.

    Will we see Bishop pull her Rick Owen out of her Rouge Volupte gob and then the media retract they got it wrong?

    Realised how stupid that question was the moment I finished it. Might as well ask Abbott to be honest and not run away from questions, the result will be the same.

  112. i was rudely surprised last night while watching SBS news, to see their “take” on the NDIS – according to the report, disability advocates and carers were dissatisfied with the NDIS proposal due to it not being a “fully fledged” scheme from the start – the supporting interview with one woman (not a rep. of any such group as far as i could determine, although she was a carer), echoing some of newman’s and barnett’s (? ) claims that the scheme should start with full implementation, rather than trialing for the best approach.

    even the ABC seems to have done better than that in reporting the issue. :-(

  113. pterosaur1

    although i didn’t see sbs, earlier in the week, i read an article with similar views, the woman, a carer was from Newman’s qld, (it may have been deb cotterell)

  114. Mark Bloody Simpkin on ABC news tonight seeming to affect a bemused disdain for Wayne Swan’s references to Bruce Springsteen. Trying, I thought, to imply that it was something of a STUNT!!!!!! Dredging up the usual unnamed Labor sources to say it’s a trivial idea.
    And tomorrow he & the rest will obligingly report Mr Dayglo Vest & his buffoon shadow treausrer as they once again go “of course these ball bearings will cost a million dollars each under the carbon tax Joe…”- “it’s a lolly factory today Tony”- “of course these marshmallows will cost a million dollars each….”

  115. I believe it was a stunt, to attract attention. I also listen to the speech. He made a lot of sense. He also supported the PM to the hilt.

    He is saying very much what Obama is saying. I think someone on the right made a comment about not following the USA. I think that is what they were inferring.

    Obama made the comment that the business does not create wealth on their own. That the workers and the taxpayers contribute. Funny belief that.

    Of course that is a message that they would not understand. He did also refer to some Australian artists..

  116. wan refers back to, and comments upon, his essay in the March issue of The Monthly. He says his claim then was that:
    the rising influence of vested interests is threatening Australia’s egalitarian social contract. I argued that a handful of powerful people not only think they have the right to a disproportionate share of the nation’s economic success, they think they have the right to manipulate our democracy and our national conversation to gain an even bigger slice of the pie.In the wake of the debate my essay unleashed, let me make one further charge: there is an equally concerning view emerging that such vested interests should somehow be immune from criticism. They should not. They think the rest of us should fear them. We do not. I certainly do not.
    He adds that he was accused of preaching class warfare, and called unfit to be Treasurer of Australia.
    I was told that I was siding with the wealth consumers not the wealth creators; that I wanted to slice the pie not grow it; and that my day job was simply to shut up and to make the wealthiest Australians wealthier still. In short, the idea was promulgated that I had transgressed some new, unwritten Australian law that limits the scope of our democratic debates in this country with this command: don’t criticise the powerful, don’t argue for equality.

    He adds that rather than risking a stagnant and widely divided society, we should be – and are – building a society with a vast middle class and a high degree of social mobility. That’s the meaning of economic equality in the 21st Century and it’s the central and abiding purpose of the Labor cause today.
    Sadly Swan doesn’t go on to say that the ends of economic policy are happiness or well-being of the population or the good life. Equality is a good because it is a pre-condition for the well being of the population

    http://www.sauer-thompson.com/archives/opinion/2012/08/wayne-swans-joh.php

  117. This is a very misleading headline in the oo, which I was surprised at first considering the author (Mega George) but then remmebered, he doesn’t write the headlines, or often the leading paragraph (which I would hope he didn’t in this case

    Inequality has grown on working-class warrior Wayne Swan’s watch
    by: GEORGE MEGALOGENIS
    From: The Australian
    August 02, 2012 12:00AM
    INCOME inequality has increased slightly on Wayne Swan’s watch, despite the global financial crisis pulling back some of the gains of the very rich from the first phase of the mining boom.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/inequality-has-grown-on-working-class-warrior-wayne-swans-watch/story-fn59nsif-1226440762043

    but let’s get to the money-quote, which portrays a different story

    The top 20 per cent of earners on rungs nine and 10 lifted their share at everyone else’s expense, after counting for the setback of the GFC.

    They had 45.8 per cent of total income in 2003-04, rising to 47.6 per cent in 2007-08 before easing back to 46.7 per cent in 2009-10, a net gain of 0.9 per cent.

    Apparently, ‘easing back’ is now ‘grown’ in the eyes of hte oo headline writers. So, when Labor came to power, it was 47.6per cent, and then FELL to 46.7 per cent. And that is groeth?? :shock:

    As George says at the start Lower- and middle-income households in the first six rungs of the ladder have 0.5 per cent less of the nation’s income between them than they did a decade ago

    Imagine what it would be if the libs were still in power, and workchoices had moved on to MKII by now? (shivers)

  118. Möbius Ecko JULY 4, 2012 @ 10:12 AM

    I’ve seen this before: The great respect for the office when occupied by someone clearly not up to the task, followed by denigration of the clearly appropriate individual and denigration of the office. This behaviour comes from the USA, as does the political tactic of trying to make parliament disfunction so as to blame it on the other side. Thank you, Republicans.
    I’m not sure where manufacturing scandals to damage the other side come from, perhaps the Liberals thought of it themselves..

  119. Yes James. We, courtesy of a gormless Abbott and maladaptive opposition without an original spark between the lot, seem to be plummeting down the US dysfunctional congress path thanks to their Republicans.

  120. Eddie

    here is good read

    “News Corporation directors could face charges for neglect of duties
    Company lawyers, fearing a dramatic escalation of the hacking scandal by criminalising the boards on which Murdoch family members sit, are understood to have protested to the authorities.

    A criminal prosecution could have a strong adverse impact on the deliberations by Ofcom as to whether News Corp representatives are “fit and proper” to hold UK broadcasting licences.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/31/news-corporation-directors-charges-murdoch

  121. Pathetic attempt by Uhlmann to post a negative story on the review of the Fair Work Act.
    Uhlmann’s story featured a 3rd generation Newagency in Dickson, ACT. The owner said once we had 30 casuals today only 16, it was just so hard with the new laws.

    Grow up Chris, your audience would be rather aware of what is happening to the local newsagency, especially in Canberra. But because you are appear to be so ignorant of the world outside the studio, here are some pointers

    Newspaper sales have collapsed.
    Newspapers, if you want one, can be purchased through numerous outlets, from petrol stations to supermarkets.
    Ditto for magazines.
    Cards and wrapping paper, the same but even cheaper if you go to a Variety/$2 shop.
    Lottery sales can be completed on-line from sales to winnings

    And that just about sums up the majority of their business Chris, somehow I feel the changes in what was once a secure market, has much more to do with the business of a newsagency than the Fair Work Act.

  122. Sue, wonderful example. Would have nothing to do with people no longer buying papers. I believe one in ten does today. Not long ago, it was nine in ten. Many bought more that one.

    Only for the gambling industry, they would have few customers. Others have saved themselves by becoming Australian Post Agencies.

  123. CU

    And Uhlmann claims to be an investigative journalist and the chief political journalist.
    As I said PATHETIC.
    Worse than the blatant bias the lack of basic facts on Newsagencies, was a poor effort by Uhlmann. For goodness sakes they had the monopoly distrinbution rights of newspapers you think a journalist would know that.

    I must look up the report, by this time I was only patially interested, but from memory Uhlmann closed with the line

    “as long as there are newspapers…………”
    maybe he was just having a laugh at the Newsagency

  124. And look what happens when David Cameron sets up a Leveson inquiry and Brooks gets charged with phone hacking , The master is moving around his new pawns.

    “Rupert Murdoch is considering backing Boris Johnson to replace David Cameron as Tory leader as he takes to Twitter to praise the London mayor’s “brilliant” organisation of the Olympics.
    Sources familiar with Murdoch’s thinking believe he remains sceptical of Cameron as the economy worsens and say he has been impressed by the way Johnson has put London on the map. He can also identify with the indifference the mayor shows towards his critics.
    The love-in seems to be paying off. Johnson’s ratings have improved and Murdoch’s bitterness towards Britain seems to have been washed away.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/aug/02/rupert-murdoch-boris-johnson-prime-minister

  125. Pip
    I wonder where Steve Lewis, Glen Milne are? Or is the Blot trying to ramp up some ratings for his weekend show?

    With Campbell Newman telling his voters they are grateful for the sackings, I reckon the polling for Labor may be turning in Qld, so we have a barnstorming of leaks and confessions across the media.

  126. Sue, Steve Lewis and Glen Milne can be found under the bridge with all the other trolls.

    Lewis could be watching the post for his cheque from the publishing company

    Fact is stranger than fiction. That’s been proven time and time again in Australian politics. But what happens when two of our best journos decide to put their political minds into fiction?

    http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2012/07/26/3554313.htm?site=darwin

    Best journos? Hardly!

    As for Glenn Milne who has tried to resurrect this story before and caused The Australian to recant, Vex News today puts their slant on it.

    DISGRACE: The Australian’s false implication of embezzlement at PM shames our great newspaper

    ts deep absurdity and unpleasantness is confirmed by the only “new” part of the old story which is that Ralph Blewett reckons he’ll tell the whole tall tale if he gets “immunity” from prosecution, something he almost certainly won’t get from law enforcement in Australia. We think the pensioner has been spending too much time watching American legal drama. What The Australian editor’s excuse could be we cannot say.

    Let’s be clear and say what most wouldn’t: This old story is a joke, it won’t go anywhere, it might very help destabilise the PM’s leadership but we suspect it won’t even do that. It’s only the embittered ex-ministers who are still astonished their talents were over-looked by the PM who’ve been repeating it.

    http://www.vexnews.com/2012/08/disgrace-the-australians-false-implication-of-embezzlement-at-pm-shames-our-great-newspaper/

    How Robert McClelland led pursuit in union funds scandal

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/how-robert-mcclelland-led-pursuit-in-union-funds-scandal/story-fn59niix-1226425771932

  127. …..perhaps the Liberals thought of it themselves..

    Not a chance in the world, James. There hasn’t been an original thought in the Liars party since……, umm……*sound of crickets*.

    Newman says Queenslanders grateful for job cuts..

    First time I’ve heard that interpretation of “I won’t be voting for you at the next election.” “Can we have another election right now?” “How stupid does he think we are?”

    Not only is he a cretin, he also suffers from delusions. He certainly seems to have some trouble distinguishing truth from fantasy.

  128. When did it become wrong to raise sufficient tax revenue to ensure a good society? We must abandon this crazy test of our economic and fiscal virility and replace it with a tax system that will build a good society, including aged care reform, the National Disability Insurance Scheme and the recommendations of the Gonski review of school funding. We can’t afford to not have these things.

    True, some big numbers are involved in these reforms. I have been arguing for some time that hypothecated taxes should be introduced to pay for Gonski, aged care reform and the NDIS. It makes me a little uncomfortable to know that I’m on the same page as the Queensland Premier on this when it comes to the NDIS, but I’ll take all the friends I can get. I am serious about this issue – I am not sure the Queensland Premier is.

    The combined cost of these three reforms comes to about $11.5 billion a year. It’s a lot of money. But if taxes were raised for the purpose of paying for them, Australia’s ratio of tax to GDP would increase by just 0.75 per cent. We would retain our virility ranking as the fifth lowest taxing country in the OECD and have a world-class aged care system, a world-class disability insurance system and a world-class public education system.

    Given the Coalition’s commitment to fiscal austerity, a clear political and economic differentiation should be taken to the next election. That is, Labor stands for building a good society and we will argue for a modest increase in tax to fund it. Social justice demands no less.

    Doug Cameron is a Labor senator for NSW. This is an edited extract of a speech given last night to the Tasmanian Economics Society.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/axe-productivity-commission-and-up-taxes/story-e6frgd0x-1226441771358

  129. Why is Rupert Murdoch so averse to climate science?

    The Wall Street Journal’s Long War on Science

    The Wall Street Journal editorial page has claimed in recent years that the science of climate change is “disputable,” that global warming is just a “fad-scare,” and that proposals to deal with it are merely attempts to exert “political control.” That the paper keeps repeating these tired claims is not news.

    It is news, though, that the Journal’s editorial board has made the same series of claims about every major environmental concern in recent history—not only climate change, but acid rain and the hole in the ozone layer, too. Media Matters for America has put together a series of timelines showing the Journal repeatedly arguing that we don’t know enough about an environmental problem, protesting that dealing with it would cost too much money, and dismissing questions about what to do as too “political.” The full analysis is here.

    http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/08/wall-street-journals-long-war-science

  130. In a flat rejection of new media regulation, Mr Abbott will use his speech to the Institute of Public Affairs in Sydney to question the government’s motives, accusing it of resorting to regulation proposals rather than respond to fair media coverage of its shortcomings. He lists its broken promise not to create a carbon tax…..

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-muzzling-press-to-hide-failings-tony-abbott/story-fn59niix-1226443472461
    :shock:

    “I don’t rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism,” she said of the next parliament. “I rule out a carbon tax.”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983

  131. The oo caught out Making Shit Up again

    Frustration with Labor’s missteps and the failure to establish scheduled and regular business dialogue with China came to a head in April during the Boao Forum for Asia China’s regional answer to the annual World Economic Forum at Davos – after the federal government failed to send a representative.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/business-building-bridges-to-china-to-repair-ties/story-fn59nm2j-1226443474575

    Michael Spence: Well, there were certainly Australians there, and our ambassador was there

    I’m guessing our ambassador is no longer considered a representative in the eyes of the oo.

    Considering the post directly above, it is no wonder tabot considers this to be ‘fair media coverage’

    It is as FOS as he is.

  132. Meanwhile, as tabot runs around pretending he is all for ‘free speech’, baby tabot, the prequel, reveals just how ‘free’ speech once a conservative has the reigns

    QUEENSLAND Premier Campbell Newman arrived at his second community cabinet forum to the chant of “Shame Campbell Shame” but he made sure there was little room for dissent during official proceedings.

    ………….

    Axed again was the public Q&A session, which was a mainstay under the previous government, and locals could get face time only by pre-registering for one-on-one sessions with the ministers.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/protesters-meet-newman-at-cabinet-forum/story-e6freon6-1226443340403

  133. With thanks to Lavinia Projustice for the link. The article also links to Ad Astra at The Political Sword.

    The man who owns the news: Rupert Murdoch

    Just a small snippet from this very informative article.

    Murdoch regards The Australian as his treasured flagship, even though it is said to not turn a profit. Its modest weekday circulation of around 100,000, with weekend patronage a little larger, does not lessen its value to him. It is aimed to influence opinion leaders in commerce, industry, agriculture, banking and politics. And it does.

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/the-media-in-the-middle/

  134. Mega George has a post up that references his previous article about inequality, which I mentioned above here

    http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/media-watch-xviii/#comment-97023

    He also provides a link to Wayne Swans release disagreeing with the article

    http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/meganomics/index.php/theaustralian/comments/the_shrinking_public_attention_span/

    http://www.treasurer.gov.au/wmsDisplayDocs.aspx?doc=pressreleases/2012/069.htm&pageID=003&min=wms&Year=&DocType=0

    (just in case the oo blocks some)

    However, the main thrust of this article seems to be him defending the recent (since Labor won the election basically) trend of Government policies being reported through the lens of ‘the opposition says’

    While he might have a case to argue, that the interwebs make information that fast that the actual policy release is old news by the time the papers are actually written, it is a very weak case. First, this was always so under the Howard Government (the internet has been a phenomenon for over a decade now) so why did it not happen then.

    Secondly, it does not excuse the behaviour of writing stories in this manner. The journalists can still write an article that simply explains the policy, arguing for or against purely on hte journalists knowledge and experience. We rarely see this. What we see, is articles that simply attack a policy with the opposition talking points, with no real explanation of the actual policy. This is not the fault of the internet, this is the fault of the journalists, who appear to prefer to use these talking points (most of them quite lame) rather than do any cognitive reasoning for themselves.

    It really is quite an empty argument. I would have thought better from George.

  135. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    news Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has delivered a fiery tirade against the media for constantly repeating misconceptions about Labor’s National Broadband Network project, singling out the Financial Review newspaper for particular ridicule and recommending that those interested in accuracy read broadband forum Whirlpool.

    http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/09/whirlpool-more-accurate-than-afr-says-conroy/

  136. Reports this morning that the coalition has a working group examining the prospect of regulating social media. While this is no doubt just a thought bubble at the moment the prospect should be taken very seriously. Comments appearing about Abbott’s double standards; he advocates legislation effectively allowing his chosen ones to say pretty much anything they want whilst regulating potential criticism. This is quite true of course but making these observations won’t affect anything. Because rather than having double standards these people effectively have no standards, only concerning themselves with what is useful to them.
    I once read that George Orwell is considered the most misrepresented author in the English language, in effect EVERYONE ends up citing him. So I’ll take my turn & say that this prospect is Orwellian in concept, an attempt to limit what is rapidly becoming the only area of commentary to critically examine the Right.

    There are personal implications for all of us in this.

  137. News 24 just had another press stunt with the Abbott. I was not really listening to the blah, blah, blah…… then they crossed back to the station where Jeremy Ferdanez said ” nothing new their just the usual stay on message about the carbon tax”

  138. Miglo

    I really had tuned out, I think he walked off as per usual, it was the unusal comment by Ferdanez back at the studio that was different.

  139. Migs, I saw the same stunt, and was amazed that he could continue with the same old worn out rhetoric about the devastation caused by the Carbon price, even though almost everything that he said has already been proven to be false and misleading. I, like Sue tuned out after a couple of minutes, but did notice the “Nothing new there” comment after returning to the studio.
    I think even the MSM are getting fed up with the same old brain farts. :lol:

  140. Tim Dunlop puts it far better than I did in a comment above

    No doubt it is true that this “second-day syndrome” exists and that, by default, it favours the opposition: just think of all those mindless ABC radio stories that begin, “The leader of the Opposition said today…”

    But as Megalogenis later concedes, just because journalists are bored with the story and looking for a new angle, it doesn’t mean the public are.

    Indeed, as he notes, precisely because of this sort of coverage, the public haven’t even had a chance to engage before journalists have moved on.

    But the problem is not, as Megalogenis suggests, just an artefact of the 24-hour news cycle. It is the result of a conscious decision by journalists and editors to cover politics in a particular way.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4188322.html

    An excellent article on how the media not only let tabots piss weak excuses for explanations pass through to the keeper, but how they actually enable it for him.

  141. There has long been a fear in Coalition ranks that behind the ruthless effectiveness of the “stop the tax, stop the boats” Abbott attack, there may lurk a more chaotic machine in which the Coalition’s policy positions remain chaotic.

    http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/abbott_struggles_to_find_form_as_6T9xNT2nvhcBHpd7dwirUP

    When you take that line in context with Tim Dunlops (excellent) piece above, you can see clearly just how much our vapid media have not only enabled, but actually encouraged and actively supported, the oppositions ongoing hissy fit since THEY LOST the last election.

  142. Poor Channel 7.

    Have made such a huge brouhaha last week and the week before over the absolute certainty of Rudd taking over from Gillard because Riley had “inside” knowledge, today they are attempting to save face as the rest of the media outlets have moved on from that beatup, so Sunrise have now come at the beatup from a different angle. “Do all roads lead to Kevin Rudd?”

    Certainty gone, but keep the Rudd leadership beatup alive for another day because we screwed it last week and the week before and times before that.

    And to show how ludicrous the whole thing has become we now have Julie Bishop saying Swan wants the leadership and is manoeuvring to challenge Gillard.

    Nothing is more certain that when things are not going well for Abbott out will come the Gillard leadership beatups. Never fails.

  143. Yesterday at the PM press conference on accepting the 22 submissions of the Houston report, the PM turned to questions from journalists. In the middle of questions it came to be Matthew Franklins turn and what did he ask of the PM? You guessed it, ” What did the PM think of Slater and Gordon asking the AWU to waiver confidentiality? PM you do know what I am talking about?”

    Today the Australian announces Matthew Franklin will be leaving the Australian after accepting a voluntary redundancy.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/chief-political-correspondent-leaves-the-australian/story-e6frg996-1226450314753

    Now he may have wanted to retire but he may have also got the opportunity to spend more time with Glenn Milne.

  144. PS, Franklin is 47 a tad early to pick up a pension!!!!!!!!

    His last day in the parliamentary press gallery is Friday, not even staying to the end of this 2 week session!!

  145. Bit of a shame if Franklin’s last question is a cheap attempt at a gotya (regardless of his reputation).

  146. I should make mention, that as a hearing impaired person I very much value the contributions about the media. I sorta hear these, but could easily get it wrong, and so rely on you lot, you hearing abled persons to comment on these.

    I received an award last year as the only deaf blogmaster..that was good. Of course I said, not without a good deal of help from my friends.

    With due respect to the Beatles, I do like Joe Cocker’s version..

  147. Min
    Franklin was trying to stir that old pot once again. In Franklin’s own words, he is leaving at least 3 years earlier than what he had planned with his family. Apparently he and his family had decided he should look to something new when he trurned 50, seems as though he got an offer he just couldn’t refuse.
    It will be a pleasure not to hear his whining voice.

  148. Yesterday at the PM press conference on accepting the 22 submissions of the Houston report, the PM turned to questions from journalists. In the middle of questions it came to be Matthew Franklins turn and what did he ask of the PM? You guessed it, ” What did the PM think of Slater and Gordon asking the AWU to waiver confidentiality? PM you do know what I am talking about?”

    Today the Australian announces Matthew Franklin will be leaving the Australian after accepting a voluntary redundancy.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/chief-political-correspondent-leaves-the-australian/story-e6frg996-1226450314753

    Sue I just HAVE to borrow this. There’s a FB page I ‘ve watching that has been backing this guy and I wanted to rub it in their faces a bit..

  149. Bmac, some of the members of that sick group come over to the Café Whispers Facebook page (the link to which is on the side bar :) ) and and have a bowel movement before being quickly blocked. They can’t help themselves. They should keep their shit where they come from.

  150. In an attempt to have the Ashby/Slipper case dealt with more quickly, Slipper’s lawyers are attempting to vary Slipper’s counter claim against Ashby by having the word “unlawfully” removed from the text. By removing this word the constitutional argument would be removed and the case could proceed.
    Now if you look at Fairfax, the journalist, Louise hall has a journalist’s report/ article/ news on this circmstance

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-moves-to-cut-off-ashby-leak-claim-20120815-2489d.html

    As opposed to NewsLtd which has a number of big stakes in this case, (leaving aside trying to bring down a government) one of the stakes being reporter Steve Lewis. So look how they portray this legal action, as a backdown

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/peter-slipper-back-down-in-james-ashby-case/story-fndo1uez-1226450939030

  151. So on one hand, a report sans spin, providing the facts and the reason for the action.

    OTOH, more spinning than a cotton mill.

  152. THE former news editor of the News of the World Scotland has been arrested and charged with committing perjury during the trial of former Scottish MP Tommy Sheridan and conspiracy to hack telephones, police say.

    Douglas Wight, 39, also faces allegations of other data protection offences following an investigation by officers from Operation Rubicon of Strathclyde Police.

    A force spokeswoman said a report would be sent to the procurator fiscal in Glasgow.

    A statement from Strathclyde Police said: “Officers of Operation Rubicon of Strathclyde Police arrested and charged an 39-year-old male with perjury before the High Court in Glasgow during the trial in 2010 of Tommy Sheridan, the former MSP, conspiracy (in Scotland) to hack telephones, multiple charges of conspiracy to obtain the personal data of members of the public in breach of the Data Protection Acts and individual offences under these Acts.”

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/another-news-of-the-world-editor-charged/story-e6frea7u-1226452361928

  153. Poor old Peter Hartcher his conclusion of his opinion piece today is a predictable as the story of the puppets he usues as his theme.
    Peter has decided to write about Punch and Judy, and of course Abbott is Punch and Julia is Judy. And Hartcher writes that Abbott needs Julia just as Punch needs Judy.
    The drivel ends with Hartcher’s summation that the best way for Labor to kill off Punch/Abbott would be if Labor chose (Rudd), if there were no Judy, Punch would fail.

    Pass mark for Hartcher for a new way of writing the usual but a big fat FAIL for being so predictable. Well I suppose even Hartcher can wonderr if there is a brand new readership for his articles just as only a brand audience would be surprised in watching a Punch and Judy puppet theatre.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/joke-awaits-new-punchline-20120817-24du5.html

  154. This is what scaper is gloating about. It has taken Bolt and co over two months to get this far.

    It is still a 17 year old scandal.

    Mr. Bolt is complaining that the ABC and other outlets are not picking up the story. One wonders why. Could it be that it does not have legs.

    New and potentially damaging information has emerged about Prime Minister Julia Gillard and her involvement with former boyfriend, union official Bruce Wilson who’s been accused of corruption.

    The claims, in the Australian newspaper, refer to her time as a lawyer with Slater and Gordon in the 1990’s.

    The Australian story says Ms Gillard left Slater and Gordon as a direct result of an internal investigation into a fund she helped set up for Mr Wilson, the then leader of the Australian Workers Union.

    According to the Australian, the inquiry also covered the financing of renovations to the home she shared with Mr Wilson, and whether AWU funds were involved.

    The Coalition wants answers from the Prime Minister.

    The Prime Minister’s office has released a brief statement on the accusations.

    It says Ms Gillard has made clear that she was not involved in any wrongdoing, and has dealt with these allegations previously.

    http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/08/18/Gillard_responds_to_1990s_accusations_785198.html

  155. CU
    This morning on Insiders they had a clip from Sky agenda, with Paul Kelly interviewing the PM on why she left Slater and Gordons.

    the PM challenged Kelly and said to him
    “I know you have been told to ask these questions”
    Kelly riled against this claim, saying “no- one tells me what to ask”
    But Paul Kelly could not look the PM in the eye as he said this, he looked down to the side and down again at his questions.
    The PM then challenged Paul Kelly again and asked
    “do you have an allegation you want to put to me?”
    He then said “no I do not have any allegations”

    the PM then came in with the killer reply
    “then why are you asking these questions? What has this got to do with my role as PM of this country?”

    That is about all the Insiders showed but it would be good to get a full transcript of the interview.
    From what the PM said to Kelly, the PM was made aware before she went on air that Kelly had been instructed to ask these questions.
    I would love to know by whom? I wonder if the PM will be having further discussions with News ltd?
    Will Kelly decide to retire in the current round of redundancies?

  156. Sue, Tweed is correct. We should watch Sky. I heard it repeated on ABC news The PM handled herself well. Paul also said he did not believe she did anything wrong.

    The PM has answered these allegations over the last seventeen years. All Bolt has to do, is a little Googling to get his answers.

    The PM said when they ask her about something they say she did wrong, she will answer. The PM has said that she has no intention of answering innuendo and gossip.

    The PM is correct when she said, that nothing she could say would halt the malicious campaign being waged by some. Anything she says, will be twisted to fit in with their picture.

  157. Talk back radio mentality..

    Christine Assange was due to speak to 3AW’s Sunday morning show in Melbourne today about her son, the founder of whistleblower website WikiLeaks, and his successful appeal for asylum in Ecuador.

    But she changed her mind after hearing how co-host John-Michael Howson had treated a previous guest.

    “I won’t be doing an interview with you because you’re acting like a pig,” Ms Assange said.

    Howson responded by screaming on air: “Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!”

    Ms Assange then hung up the phone.

    Howson said he linked Ms Assange to the biggest example of censorship that he could think of because she had denied him the chance to speak out.

    “She comes on and says to me she’s not going to talk about – that to me shows her trying to censor me,” the veteran entertainment reporter said.

    “I’m not going to be censored by her so I said, ‘Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!’ because it’s a Nazi mentality by these people.”

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ecuador-to-announce-assange-asylum-britain-threat-to-raid-embassy/story-e6frf7jo-1226451503293

  158. CU, it took a fair time for the PM to leave S&G as a direct result of the “internal investigation”. She was there for a further 12 months before she left to start her political career.

    The Liars are getting more and more desperate, it seems. With things going badly for the wizened foreigner, they’ve had to ramp up the lies. Perhaps we should start dredging up Liealot’s past sexual misconduct.

  159. How unhinged can these murdoch rags get?

    Those fears were compounded yesterday during a fiery interview on Sky’s Australian Agenda, when Ms Gillard refused to address allegations raised against her.

    “I did nothing wrong. Have you got an allegation to put to me? If you do not, why are we discussing this?” she said.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/slush-fund-claims-raise-fresh-leadership-tension/story-e6freuy9-1226453649348

    There is no allegation, yet she is refusing to answer it?? Is this the ultimate dog whistle?

    It claimed that Ms Gillard took leave of absence following the review to campaign for the senate, before her employment officially ended on May 3, 1996 when she joined the office of Victorian Opposition Leader John Brumby.

    They forgot the central piece of evidence here again, that S & G specifically mentioned that Gillard resigned. The article in the terror leaves that detail in dispute, one wonders if it was intentional?

    ”I did resign from Slater and Gordon; that’s a point of public record. I made the decision to do that.”

    She said she was not getting into specifics about issues 17 years ago ”when you are not able to put to me any contention about why this is relevant to my conduct as prime minister today”.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/internal-inquiry-cleared-pm-law-firm-reveals-20120819-24gmj.html#ixzz241iCVCDt

    At least the Age article puts forward all relevant information for this slur. Information which, in a real world, would render the story obsolete. If that didn’t, the release from S & G should/would.

    And these idiots wonder why their ‘model’ is broken. In the real world, Kelly would have no career left after his abysmal performance yesterday. Unfortunately, we are in Oz, in 2012, and the real world left us years ago.

  160. Tom, that was indeed Julia’s question to Paul Kelly..what is your allegation. Kelly answered, I don’t have any. Full stop and that should by rights, be the end of the story.

  161. Addendum, and Gillard is a lawyer and the 1st rule when dealing with a witness is: Never ask a question unless you know the answer.

  162. That is the thing, and ltdnews is really playing it loose here. There is no question, only innuendo, yet they are pretending that the PM is not answering a question that they are too afraid to ask.

    Why are they too afraid, because of what you just answered Min. They know the answer. There is nothing. But, if they can get the PM to dignify it with a response, it immediately becomes a news item for them.

    She did the right thing, called them on their bullshit. They play their little game, but in the end, they are the ones with egg on their face, and their relevance drops another few points.

    The race is on, can they bring down the Government, before their irrelevance is complete?

    Just as a small reminder, newspollweek, although, it looks like this got it legs a little late this time. Are they losing their touch?

  163. Tom, from your link..let’s hear it again folks..Ms Gillard was cleared of any wrongdoing 17 years ago. The motivation in Paul Kelly dredging this up is of course another issue. Surely as a so-called investigative journalist Kelly might have done a little homework and ASKED Slater and Gordon BEFORE confronting the PM with his non-allegation…

    ”The review found nothing which contradicted the information provided by Ms Gillard at the time in relation to the AWU-Bruce Wilson allegations and which she has stated consistently since the allegations were first raised,” he said.

  164. Tom, of course. The poll, time for a bit a rumour mongering about Gillard. I’m surprised that they haven’t started on yet another leadership speculation..perhaps give them time. :evil:

  165. So, the real question, the one that has not been answered, is who got Kelly to ask the initial question?

    That’s the saddest thing Min, A journalist should know all this. It is on the public record. The fact that ltdnews are trying to play this ‘she was sacked’ routine is just pitiful. Unfortunately, most people will wonder about this, not knowing the full facts, which the ltdnews hacks refuse to divulge to them.

    And they wonder why we need better media laws.

  166. Tom, that one is certainly well worth watching – the coincidence of negative stories about Gillard and the publishing of a newspoll.

    I’m just waiting for the media to run with the line: Given that Julia Gillard was sacked, do you believe that………………………….

  167. Min. Hartcher has and has been canned for it on Twitter. Though the contention is not of a challenge but Labor can only win the next election with Rudd as Abbott has well and truly got Gillard’s measure so she is a liability to Labor.

    Also the current meme is that even though Rudd isn’t openly challenging right now or when they said he would in September, he hasn’t stopped trying and is planning his challenge all the time.

    See how neat that is in that they can keep the challenge meme alive for as long as they want and can’t be wrong when their beat-ups of it don’t happen in the time they nominate.

    They also blaming Rudd as being a coward for not having challenged when the media said he would.

    See yet again it’s not the media’s fault for putting up beat-up after beat-up that failed to come to pass but it’s Rudd’s fault for not following their script and doing what they are broadcasting for him to do.

    Apart from a very small handful of quality journalists, the media in this country is well and truly fucked.

  168. but it’s Rudd’s fault for not following their script and doing what they are broadcasting for him to do.

    Except, for when he did it once, they claimed then that they were right all along.

    Forget the fact that they had been predicting this ‘imminent’ clash ever since he got rolled.

    And yes Min, I have been watching this closely for the last few months and, like clockwork, every two weeks, leadershit stories. This one is way late though, (by about 3-4 days), so not sure if that blows out my little paranoid conspiracy, or just that real events (assange) took precedence.

  169. With the current, and on-going debate regarding the media, I wrote a poem a couple of weeks ago and posted it on TPS.
    I thought that it may be relevant,

    It’s called “The Media”

    The conference called, the scrum was set, and the OB trucks plugged in
    As the Journo’s and the camera crews got ready for the spin
    A whirl wind tour of misinformation, slogans and downright lies
    That attracts our illustrious media like our garbage attracts flies
    And so they wait with baited breath to hang on every word
    Hoping for a headline scoop, a hope they know.. to be absurd

    Then the crowd is hushed as the Abbott and co step forward to the mics
    And their Tony starts his diatribe complete with barbs and spikes
    Designed for maximum effect to drive his message through
    Riding roughshod over fact and truth to hoodwink me and you
    And his slogan filled Invective keeps him confident and strong
    While his minders look on nervously hoping nothing will go wrong

    When his rambling finally ceased, he said “We’ll take your questions now”
    And the usual suspects, cap in hand, begin to scrape and bow
    Then a cub reporter fresh from uni and wet behind the ears
    Asked a bold yet relevant question realising everybody’s fears
    And the minders all looked panicked and the journo’s all looked shocked
    And his front bench shifted nervously as the Abbott went off half cocked

    He stammered and he stuttered, then said “Let me just say this”
    But his response was incoherent, filled with naught but wind and piss
    So he reverted to his tried and true and blamed the government
    But the cub reporter asked again and the Abbotts brain was spent
    Then the head began to wobble with the stare, adding its part
    But the journo’s were distracted by the smell of his brain fart

    So while Abbott bolted, Bishop stepped up, all prim and looking spruced
    But her expression really said it all.. “I’ve just been verbally goosed!”
    Then the mincing poodle took the stage, a fire in his tummy
    With nostrils flared and eyes ablaze…. he spat another dummy
    Then Hockey sought to join the fray, his large jowls all a-quiver
    Stating “Lower tax and interest rates you know we will deliver.”

    But the cub piped up so loud and clear asking “How’s that to be done?”
    But because of the impertinent cub, they were no longer having fun
    So the conference ended and all the pollies quickly walked away
    And the journo’s left to write their tripe for the headlines the next day
    While reporters smiled into their cameras, saying “back to the studio.”
    And the morning anchors lauded them, then returned to their spin promoting show.

    And the next days headlines in the papers read “Another Abbott win.”
    Ignoring facts and truthfulness and promoting only spin
    And the mainstream commentators all said……holding hands to hearts
    That the Abbott’s surely got it all…. ignoring his brain farts
    So the fifth estate said enough’s enough and with minds of one accord
    Tore down the media’s empires and put them to The Political Sword.

    Cheers :lol:

  170. LATER and Gordon, the law firm for which Julia Gillard worked in the 1990s, yesterday revealed that an internal inquiry had found nothing against her over a scandal involving her former boyfriend, Bruce Wilson.
    Slater and Gordon issued the statement after Ms Gillard refused to say whether she had had to resign over the matter.
    Opposition Leader Tony Abbott called on Ms Gillard to make a parliamentary statement.
    A salaried partner in Slater and Gordon, Ms Gillard was advising the AWU, of which Mr Wilson was an official. He was accused of corruptly siphoning off funds. Ms Gillard later said she knew nothing of the wrongdoing and had ended the relationship.
    Advertisement
    The Weekend Australian reported Nick Styant-Browne, a former equity partner in Slater and Gordon, as saying the firm’s probe included an interview with Ms Gillard, who had said she could not categorically rule out that she personally benefited from union funds in the renovation of her Melbourne home – although she believed she had paid for all the work and had receipts, which she later produced. Mr Styant-Browne, now a Seattle-based lawyer, told the newspaper the firm ”accepted her resignation”.
    The matter has arisen repeatedly over the years and has recently been extensively referred to in the blogosphere.
    On Sky TV yesterday, Ms Gillard clashed sharply with The Australian’s journalist Paul Kelly who asked if it was true she had had to resign in 1995 from the firm as a result of ”their investigation into misappropriation of funds around the legal entity that you had established”.
    Ms Gillard said: ”I am not dignifying all of this scurrilous campaigning by going through these things point by point.
    ”I did nothing wrong. If you’ve got an allegation that I did something wrong, then put it,” Ms Gillard said.
    ”I did resign from Slater and Gordon; that’s a point of public record. I made the decision to do that.”
    She said she was not getting into specifics about issues 17 years ago ”when you are not able to put to me any contention about why this is relevant to my conduct as prime minister today”.
    Ms Gillard claimed Kelly was being asked to put the questions – a claim he strongly denied.
    Andrew Grech, managing director of Slater and Gordon, said Ms Gillard had given the firm permission to set out details of her employment.
    He said she had acted for a wide variety of unions and individuals in employment-related matters including various AWU branches from 1991 to 1995.
    ”Upon the Slater and Gordon partnership learning of what has been described as the AWU-Bruce Wilson allegations in August 1995, it conducted an internal legal review as it would do, and has done, whenever any such allegations might be made,” Mr Grech said. Ms Gillard had fully co-operated with the review and denied any wrongdoing.
    ”The review found nothing which contradicted the information provided by Ms Gillard at the time in relation to the AWU-Bruce Wilson allegations and which she has stated consistently since the allegations were first raised,” he said.
    Mr Grech said that in September 1995 Ms Gillard took leave of absence to campaign for the Senate (she was the unsuccessful No. 3 candidate on Labor’s ticket).
    Her resignation from the firm became effective on May 3, 1996, when she began work for then state opposition leader John Brumby, Mr Grech said.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/internal-inquiry-cleared-pm-law-firm-reveals-20120819-24gmj.html#ixzz242fHAnKp

    How many times has it have to be said, there is nothing to the story. Why should the PM be expected to respond to malicious tumour and innuendo.

  171. Mobius, and Abbott having got Gillard’s measure.. Strange, I would have thought it to be the other way around. It is Gillard who is effective in getting bills through parliament, Gillard who doesn’t panic under pressure. It is Gillard who has the answers and doesn’t run from questions even stupid ones such as from Paul Kelly.

    Yet apparently it is Abbott who has Gillard’s measure. Well, I suppose if you read it in the newssspaperss precious, then it must be so. As we know, this has been the tactic since year dot, the newspapers run with their lines and then chase around trying to find manufacture stories to back up their original claim.

  172. Min, one just has to watch QT to know that is not true.

    Abbott is faring worse in his regular stunts on MSSO to censure the PM.

    Last Thursday, with Mr. Windsor says it all.

    He is coming across as a joke. Has done so, since he made that ridiculous dash for the door, back in the last sitting.

    Today, the talk is about schools. Not carbon tax. Not the PM’s actions of nearly two decades ago, Not on the boat trade.

    The PM is now setting the agenda, no matter how hard the Opposition and media tries.

    Today, the PM went into the lions den to make her announcement.

    I have been out, has Abbott has a stunt today?

  173. Is it. Why. It is easy to reject the rumours, especially when the firm involves releases a statement, saying the PM is telling the truth.

    The other partner, did not say the PM did anything wrong. All he said, that questions were asked. He did not seem aware of the fact, that answers were given and accepted.

    Old ghost is Gillard’s recurring nightmare

    ..A frustrated and furious Julia Gillard argues there are far more important issues to talk about than her work as a lawyer 17 years ago. That may be true.
    It’s also true that it’s impossible to ignore new statements by a former partner at Slater & Gordon. Nick Styant-Browne says Gillard resigned from the law firm after an official internal review of her work for allegedly corrupt former Australian Workers Union leader Bruce Wilson – her then boyfriend as well as her client…

    http://afr.com/p/opinion/old_ghost_is_gillard_recurring_nightmare_2rlHoGszu4xFAf9rt5ZAHK

  174. http://resources.news.com.au/files/2012/08/20/1226453/754492-aus-file-slater-gordon-statement.pdf

    t 19, 2012
    As Slater & Gordon has previously indicated these events occurred more than 17 years
    ago. None of the individuals involved remain in the employment of Slater & Gordon.
    Slater & Gordon has previously made clear it will continue to uphold the right of former
    and existing clients and staff to confidentiality in respect of all communications.
    Slater & Gordon is only able to make comment on the basis of records it now holds.
    In that context, the firm has received permission from the Prime Minister, Ms Gillard, a
    former salaried partner, to set out details of her employment history with Slater & Gordon.
    This statement is based on those records.
    Ms Gillard worked in the industrial department of Slater & Gordon in 1988 through to 1995.
    During that time Ms Gillard acted for a wide variety of trade unions and individuals in
    employment related matters including various branches of the AWU from 1991 until 1995.
    Upon the Slater & Gordon partnership learning of what has been described as the
    AWU/Bruce Wilson allegations in August 1995, it conducted an internal legal review as it
    would do, and has done, whenever any such allegations might be made.
    Ms Gillard co-operated fully with the internal review and denied any wrong doing.
    The review found nothing which contradicted the information provided by Ms Gillard
    at the time in relation to the AWU/Bruce Wilson allegations and which she has stated
    consistently since the allegations were first raised.
    In September 1995 Ms Gillard took a leave of absence from Slater & Gordon in order to
    campaign for the Senate.
    Ms Gillard’s resignation from the firm became effective on 3 May 1996 when, Slater &
    Gordon understands, she commenced employment with the then Victorian Opposition
    leader as an advisor.
    Slater & Gordon has regularly invited the Prime Minister back to the firm for events
    and functions.
    Like a number of other notable former lawyers a meeting room in the Melbourne office
    is named in recognition of her achievements.
    S

  175. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-21/swan-defends-gillard-against-liberal-muckracking/4211982

    The paper quotes Mr Gordon as saying that the law firm considered sacking Ms Gillard because her relationship with the firm’s partners had “fractured, and trust and confidence evaporated”.

    But it says the law firm decided not to sack Ms Gillard, deciding she should be “accorded the benefit of the doubt.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-21/swan-accuses-coalition-of-muckraking-over-gillards-past/4211930

    Do not forget, this is one man’s recollections after seventeen years. He no longer resides in the country.

    At no time does he say she was guilty. What he says is that he is not aware of the final decisions. He does not appear to be a part of the final decision making process.

  176. I was just remarking to a friend that with every passing day it gets harder to distinguish between the Australian media & a bucket of shit.
    Last week’s triumphalism at the reopening of Nauru et al has, on the discovery of the obvious fact that Abbott was lying & Labor was right all along about their readiness, been turned into just one thing more that this hopeless government can’t get right.
    Nowhere a question for the opposition.
    And now we have one of the media & liberals’ favourite tricks. The awarding of a temporary “good guy” classification to a bunch of neer do wells who until a few days ago were unlamented footnotes in political & corporate history in their latest attempts at personal smear. To be used for as long as it takes & then put back.

  177. when did the media become above questioning or challenging.

    Not satisfied with that, as only an estimated 120,000 read The Weekend Australian, Sky News decided to raise this matter on its Agenda program, with Paul Kelly putting the questions. Take a look at the video of that segment of the interview. Play it through. Watch Kelly’s eyes and body language as he puts Julia Gillard under intense and persistent questioning. Note particularly how annoyed he gets when she suggests that he was asked to put those questions, angrily rejecting the notion that anyone could or would tell him what questions to ask. So it’s OK for a journalist to question the professional integrity of the Prime Minister of this nation based on a tired old story 17 years old, but it’s not OK for the PM to question the professional integrity of a senior journalist. Work that out. Now if you believe what Andrew Bolt says about this, the PM’s staff was told this matter would be raised, but the words used led to a ‘misunderstanding’ that Kelly had been asked to ask those questions. The last bit of the clip is another delightful illustration of how wet-behind-the-ears is Peter van Onselen, the MC of Agenda.

    http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2012/08/21/The-News-Limited-vendetta-against-PM-Gillard-intensifies.aspx

  178. Murdoch’s News Limited media empire is formidable. We must never underestimate its power, its malevolence towards the Government, and its determination to destroy it. When the signs are improving for Labor, the News Limited vendetta will intensify. It will be out there firing broadside after broadside in a ‘take no prisoners’, ‘rescue no survivors’, ‘fight to the death’ battle.

    http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2012/08/21/The-News-Limited-vendetta-against-PM-Gillard-intensifies.aspx

    and in doing so, they will become unhinged, as they are now doing.

  179. Another media beat up that was far from the truth.

    Three Wivenhoe dam engineers have been cleared of misleading the inquiry into Queensland’s flood disaster in 2011.

    The Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC) says the Wivenhoe dam engineers will not face any further action about written and oral evidence heard by the inquiry into the January 2011 natural disaster.

    http://bigpondnews.com/articles/National/2012/08/21/Wivenhoe_dam_trio_cleared_of_misleading_786145.html

  180. Not much support for Abbott here.

    School blue sees Abbott scramble

    Education funding clash
    Australia’s major political parties are split on which schools need more funding as new polling shows Labor improving.

    THE Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, has gone into damage control after telling an education forum that the high level of public funding public schools receive is an injustice.

    Addressing a meeting of the Independent Schools Council of Australia yesterday, Mr Abbott stressed the Coalition’s opposition to the Gonski review’s recommendation to overhaul school funding.

    Damage control … Opposition Leader Tony Abbott. Photo: Andrew Meares
    ”Overall, the 66 per cent of Australian school students who attend public schools get 79 per cent of government funding,” he said. ”The 34 per cent of Australians who attend independent schools get just 21 per cent of government funding.

    ”So there is no question of injustice to public schools here. If anything, the injustice is the other way.”

    The Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, who promised yesterday that new arrangements would increase funding for all students, leapt on her opponent to claim the Coalition would slash funding. ”I was very, very disturbed, in fact I can say angry, by the approach the Leader of the Opposition has taken,” she said.

    ”Today it has been revealed that every public school in this country is on an opposition hit list and is slated for a reduction in funding,” she said.

    Mr Abbott rejected her assertion ”as just another lie from Julia Gillard” and said he had no intention, if elected, of slashing public school funding.

    Labor strategists believe Mr Abbott becomes accident prone under pressure and were buoyed yesterday when he became the first opposition leader since John Howard, 26 years ago, to be thrown out of Parliament. It is believed today’s Newspoll would show Labor’s primary vote is holding up after a five-point surge a fortnight ago.

    He had accused Ms Gillard of lying in a response to a carbon price question and failed to withdraw without qualification when ordered to do so. He had flouted several similar warnings last week.

    The Gonski review recommended an annual $5 billion rise in funding to all schools. But the largest part should flow to government schools because they had a disproportionate number of very disadvantaged students.

    ”Over 80 per cent of students who did not reach the level required for proficiency to participate in society in reading and mathematics are in government schools,” the report said.

    ”The concentration of this problem in government schools is evidence of the need for a greater increase in resources in those schools in particular.”

    But Mr Abbott said the Gonski process was in part generated by the thought that the government neglected public schools.

    The government’s final response has been delayed several weeks amid concerns from the states and non-government sectors that modelling showed more than 3000 schools would lose out if the model was applied strictly.

    Ms Gillard praised independent schools for their support for government reforms and tried to dispel any notions of class envy.

    ”I’ve never looked at a big independent school in an established suburb and thought ‘that’s not fair’,” she told the same forum. ”I look at a big independent school in an established suburb and think ‘that’s a great example’.”

    Ms Gillard said government support for a child’s education – no matter at which school – was an entitlement of citizenship and Labor would increase the funding of every independent school.

    Poll: Do state schools get too much of the education pie?
    Yes
    12%
    No
    88%
    Total votes: 14526.Poll closes in 4 hours.
    Disclaimer: These polls are not scientific and re

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/political-news/school-blue-sees-abbott-scramble-20120820-24irj.html#ixzz249JTngH3

  181. I tink TA has opened up a bucket load of shit on himself by saying this “TONY Abbott says it is “perfectly reasonable” for the media to probe a politician’s past to assess their fitness for office,”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/pms-past-a-perfectly-legitimate-issue-tony-abbott/story-fn59niix-1226454906670?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAustralianPolitics+%28The+Australian+%7C+Politics%29

    He said it about the PM but he also said it about himself and every other MP

  182. Now, it’s unclear exactly what Julia Gillard is being accused of having done when she worked for Slater and Gordon (beyond having bad taste in men, which is something she admits). The firm has stated that she wasn’t sacked, and that there was no evidence that she’d benefited from Bruce Wilson’s actions. But they would say that, wouldn’t they, insisted a News Ltd journalist today, because Slater and Gordon “needs the continuing wo……………

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/20/this-is-what-the-right-is-expert-at-smearing/

  183. A most important read
    “1.40pm: Meanwhile, Slater and Gordon managing partner Andrew Grech, is trying to make his voice heard above the rumbling, belching volcano in Canberra.

    He’s just issued this statement, which more strongly backs the Prime Minister, and her version of events; and criticises Nick Styant-Browne – a fromer equity partner at the firm, who spoke to The Australian newspaper at the weekend.

    I’m posting the statement from Mr Grech in full, for the record.

    It reads:

    Whilst it is understandable that there is great media interest in the details of discussions between former partners of Slater & Gordon and a former employee, we thought it would be helpful for the public to understand the need for legal practitioners to be cautious in relation to the release of such information particularly when it concerns the confidential information of their former clients.
    The implied criticism of Slater & Gordon to the effect that it should release more information misunderstands the obligations of legal practitioners in relation to confidential communications with clients.
    The release of confidential communications subject to legal professional privilege is a serious breach of a legal practitioners obligations.
    On Sunday I gave a clear statement of what I understand to be the facts concerning the resignation of Prime Minister Gillard from Slater & Gordon some 17 years ago based upon the records that we presently hold.
    Although I have sought to obtain the transcript of interview referred to by The Australian on Saturday 18 August 2012, I have not been provided with it by Mr Styant-Browne.
    I am therefore not in a position to comment on its authenticity or contents, even if my obligations of confidentiality to former staff permitted me to do so.
    There is in fact no inconsistency of substance between Mr Styant-Browne’s reported version of events and the facts outlined in the statement already provided by me, or the draft working document provided in confidence to Mr Styant-Browne by Mr Gordon and subsequently provided to The Australian without Mr Gordon’s knowledge or consent by Mr Styant-Browne.
    Whilst there is a great deal of conjecture and commentary now in the public domain none of it contradicts directly or otherwise the factual account set out in my statement or for that matter the draft working document published in The Australian and Mr Styant-Browne’s own version of events.
    In particular to my knowledge no one has advanced any credible evidence that there is now any more substance to the allegation first made 17 years ago and denied by Ms Gillard at the time and since that she was in any way aware of or a knowing participant in any wrong doing concerning what has become known as the Wilson/AWU matter.
    It is regrettable that Mr Styant-Browne has seen fit to release confidential communications.
    Slater & Gordon has said all that it currently can say based on its own records and subject to its obligations to former staff and former clients.
    We therefore do not intend to make any further statement unless and until new information comes to light which we are permitted or required to place in the public domain.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/blogs/the-pulse/politics-wrap-august-21-2012-20120821-24ja6.html#ixzz24ASVc1j3

  184. Sue, I believe that Mr Styant-Browne has made a very unwise choice in releasing confidential information given to him by Slater & Gordon – should this legal firm choose to take action.

  185. Min
    and as S-B is located in the USA, I wonder how he was tracked down? I wonder if the Australian’s journalist was flown to the USA? I wonder what diddums Paul Kelly is thinking? and I wonder who is next for redundancy at teh oo?

  186. Sue, Kelly has certainly proven himself to be a total incompetant, just because one speaks with a certain gravitas doesn’t mean that there is much of a brain at work behind it.

  187. Just when I thought it was safe to retire from the blogoshere, I read this rubbish from the News Ltd chief, the man responsible for publication of “The Australian”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-21/news-chief-calls-for-tougher-digital-copyright-laws/4213362

    Kim Williams described unauthorised downloading as “scumbag theft” which would worsen without swift action

    I’m thinking the paywall must not be going so well. Just proud to be a called a scumbag by the likes of a News Ltd executive.

    The Internet has the power to push News Ltd into obscurity were it belongs, go NBN you little ripper!

  188. Lunalava, is it any coincidence that the day after he had lunch with Murdoch (prior) to the last election) Tony Abbott came out and said he’d scrap the NBN if elected?

    BTW, nobody is safe to retire from the blogosphere. ;-)

  189. I believe that Abbott also said that the part of the NBN that had been completed when he won government would be sold off, and it was understood the buyer would be Murdoch.

    Now they are planning to complete the roll-out in its entirety, in yet another massive back flip by Abbott, I have not doubt their end plan is to sell the network to Murdoch for a song along with giving Murdoch unfettered media ownership in this country.

  190. Maybe worth a read.

    The book charts the use of blogs and twitter in the coverage and debate of Australian politics and what happens when the traditional media collides with this world – most notably on Twitter. Rather than focus on how media companies and political parties attempt to use the internet to further their aims and adjust their business models I instead examine how journalists and politicians themselves are coping in this new environment. I look at the problems both blogs and the MSM have dealing with comments and misogyny, the fights that can occur on Twitter and what can happen when those in the social media tweak the nose of the traditional media – including what happened when I was outed by The Australian.

    http://www.blogotariat.com/node/531740

  191. It will definitely be worth a read.

    Was chatting to Greg up at the club a few weeks ago and he said the book was near completion. I’m certainly going to grab a copy.

  192. chris murphy @chrismurphys
    Watching JGillardPM passive.Men leap to feet shout,,jeer,mock,looking at each other for a grin. Why do I think of pack rape? #auspol
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  193. Talking about the Thomson matter. They made a comment, that there is court case to come. There is not. There have been no charges made, anywhere.

  194. You can’t make this shit up about the media, it’s that bad.

    They are saying the government must be terrible because the paragons of impartiality like Janet Albrechsten and Godwin Grech are bagging it.

  195. It is news I believe that Mr. Turnbull has invested much money in the French, fibre to the home scheme.

    He had problems with, that the UK are starting with fibre to the node, with the intention of taking it to the home when the economy improves.

    Good interview last night, by the lady we sometimes do not like on Lateline.

  196. Open the cellar Miglo

    Leigh Sales is back to being an investigative journalist!

    7.30, a must see for all cafe patrons, Leigh Sales asking questions on Tony Abbott.

    Abbott may not have answered but Leigh never stopped asking and she asked them with elan.

    I hope Uhlmann was watching and taking notes

  197. I started writing about the Sale’ s interview but cannot do it justice. Have a look when 7.30 have it on their site tomorrow.

  198. Open the cellar Miglo

    Vote 1 Sue for PM President Soclial Club Director best idea on CW this year winner :lol:

    Seriously though, I wonder what role twitter may have played for Leigh tonight?
    Lots of suggestions pre-show…

  199. My the right wingers are delusional and precious.

    Abbott either ripped Sales apart and a display of great mastery over a pinko ABC journalist or Sales, the pinko ABC journalist should be ashamed of conducting such a terrible interview showing up their wonderful Abbott.

    And some say the left live in an alternate reality.

    Plus not the hypocrisy here. Gillard and any Labor pollie or affiliate can be denigrated, slandered and have abuse hurled at them plus any shit whatsoever made up about them, but heaven help any journalist that dares ask Abbott to be lucid and honest in his dealings with the public.

  200. Miglo
    I guess the following has been previously drawn to your attention, but I post it just in case.

    From The Australian 1st May 2012

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/membership-fall-crisis-for-unions/story-fnbkvnk7-1226343081983

    So what does the future hold for unions in Australia? The first thing that needs to be said is that we should never rely on the number of members provided by the unions themselves. (The figures quoted above are collected by the ABS using a survey of the population.) Apart from deliberate fudging, many unions continue to count non-financial and dead members. In many instances, unless members take the time to resign, they continue to be counted in the total of union members.

    I’m wondering how accurate the information is in the last two sentences. The Australian’s journalists wouldn’t just make things up to support a bogus case would they? SURELY not!

  201. Everyone appears to be asking him questions. Questions that can no longer be answered with three word slogans.

    As it was said on The Drum, Abbott is in danger of going a bridge too fart when opening his mouth. It was said, that today was the time to act the statesman, and stick to facts. Let others do the kicking.

    As the deputy speakers said, you cannot help yourself, is spot on.

    The so called carbon tax and MRRT had nothing to do with today’s decision by BHP. It was market forces, high cost of capital. There is also an option of cheaper technology.
    Abbott is the one that promised to undo all that in place.

    What’s ore he is threatening to call elections until he has the numbers to do so.

    What could cause more uncertainty than that proposition, years of political and economic instability.

  202. Labor’s wake-up call

    Today’s announcement by BHP Billiton to defer its decision on the critical Olympic Dam expansion is a blow for Australia and bitterly disappointing for South Australians.

    BHP Billiton Chairman, Jack Nasser, pointedly warned the Federal Government as recently as April, that:

    “While governments have the right to make tax and royalty decisions, those decisions have repercussions.”

    “Attacking individuals and specific industries doesn’t build confidence in our country – nothing good comes from this. It is particularly troubling when these attacks are directed at the resources sector, a part of the economy that has the potential to continue growing, creating jobs for many more Australians.”

    The uncertainty created by Labor, with its anti-business language and its imposition of 26 new tax grabs like the carbon tax and the mining tax, is eroding confidence in our country as a place to invest.

    Australia urgently needs to again return to policies that encourage confidence and reward investment in Australia.

    http://liberalpartyofaustralia.cmail1.com/t/ViewEmail/r/C5E2BD4329C1EE7D/177E330F1C73ECC5E89F0E32AAFB68BF

    It appears Abbott is going to push the BHP decision for all it is worth. Not one expert I have heard tonight agrees with him.

  203. I have never seen a more pathetic performance from an Opposition leader, I do not think he answered one question.

  204. Tony Abbott lies here: “TONY ABBOTT: Leigh, 1st July wasn’t the end of the pain; 1st July is the beginning of the pain. And the carbon tax, don’t forget, just goes up and up and up. It’s $29 a tonne in 2015, it’s $37 a tonne in 2020, it’s $350 a tonne in 2050″

    This is what the policy says: “1. Fixed price period—The carbon pricing mechanism will commence on 1 July 2012, with a price that will be fixed for the first three years. The price will start at $23 per tonne and will rise at 2.5 per cent each year in real terms.
    2. emissions trading scheme—On 1 July 2015, the carbon price will transition to a fully flexible price under an emissions trading scheme, with the price determined by the market.

    Price ceiling and floor will apply for the first three years of the flexible carbon price
    period. The price ceiling will be set at $20 above the expected international price and
    will rise by 5 per cent in real terms each year. The price floor will be $15, rising by
    4 per cent each year in real terms.”

    Abbott lying again.

  205. How are they going to cover that interview up or spin it to there advantage. Be interesting to see what our resident trolls have to say about it.

  206. Mobius Ecko

    Does Abbott run at night? Just wondering because when he was thrown out of the chamber by the deputy speaker that is what he did. So as he was dismissed by Sales, Abbott sure looked p1ssed and he would definitely need to work out that anger.

  207. Trev, thanks for that but shame on you for reading The Australian. ;-)

    Fudging number is the world’s third oldest profession. When I was in Hockey’s department it used to gone on all the time in regards to the number of (allegedly) employed people in the country.

    Oops. I’ve said too much. :shock:

  208. They will paul in their usual way with bullshit, attack and denial from their alternate reality.

    They will already be forming a firewall around Abbott’s performance and rehearsing their excuses for tomorrow morning’s news. The other thing they will do is immediately attack Gillard and bring up Slater and Gordon, her dress, jacket, barrenness, great big LIE, or whatever else they can cobble together to do a look over there and away from our idiot Abbott.

  209. You know what’s so heartening about this, the sheer number of responses across the net, not just Twitter, in not only praising Sales/ABC but more so rightly dumping on Abbott’s abysmal performance.

    There must a large number out there who have been watching the Abbott train steam on spewing toxic lies and deceits everywhere, but with a compliant media probably had given up any hope of the train ever being derailed let alone slowed, so they have remained dormant and mute.

    Hopefully Abbott will finally be asked serious questions, be made to account for every lie he tells, and there are so many, and finally be scrutinised over policy and behaviour. One can only hope as it seems so many others out there have been.

  210. I have just watched 7-30. I have had a really good belly laugh.

    The man needs to learn when to shut up. he would have done well to halve most of his replies.

    A woman knows they are hitting the spot when a man keep repeating your name during a debate.

    Also, he needs to refrain from the “she” word, and learn to say PM sometimes.

    He was called a liar more than once, and kept up with the lies.

    He never read the announcement he was making comments on today. That says it all. Too lazy to do the work that is needed to do the job.

    Leigh did not even have to work hard at making a fool of hi, All that is needed is questions and challenging the obvious lies.

    No wonder it went viral.. Funny that being asked a few questions, excites the public.

  211. Paul, thanks for the link to the Leigh Sales interview. And this is the man who would be king.
    I am already thinking of an addendum to my poem posted above (Aug 20; 10.27), or even another one dedicated to it.
    :lol: :sad: :lol:

    Cheers

  212. “How are they going to cover that interview up or spin it to there advantage”

    Do not worry, Iain will make a of it. He will just tell us, we are misreading what Mr. Abbott has said.

    The problem is us,it appears, not Abbott’s. We are just too dense to understand the brilliance of the man.

    Sorry, I am just sick of his tripe and how he twists everything, then when we do not bend, start the insults.

  213. Paul, I am currently working on one about T Windsor’s attack on Abbot, but give me a couple of days and I’ll see what I can do.

    Cheers :lol:

  214. This on twitter.
    “I didn’t think it was possible for anyone to make George W Bush look intelligent, but Abbott managed it tonight on #abc730.”

  215. It will be interesting to watch QT tomorrow just to watch the opposition benches. the govt benches won’t have to say anything, their smiles will be enough to drive Abbott crazy.

  216. LOL Sue – I think you’ve nailed it! What can we expect from the “dixers?” Perhaps a question to the Treasurer about the reasons for the BHP Billiton decision? Anything to rub the salt in or to poke it with a stick :lol: Watch out for the blood vessels in Pyne’s head to get the closest to exploding they’ve ever been. Delicious :)

    How is Tony gonna save Tony on Lateline? must go see…

  217. Just watched it. What a shocker! A minor point but as a South Aussie I’m angry at his “bleeding for me”. Where’s the blood from his famous “Blood Oath”? I want to see that & lots of it but there isn’t any, is there? Just more bullshit from the master.
    Sales laughing at him won’t go down well.
    For those not abreast of affairs in S.A, & that’s most people in S.A. & elsewhere, Abbott was on the spot here a few days ago when he was unable to quote local Liberal policies.
    Isobel Bloody Redmond here today getting in words like “Carbon Tax, Mining Tax” in relation to the Olympic Dam issue. Not in any structured way mind you, just throwing the terms about from what I saw. Utterly reliant on catchphrases.
    Abbott I thought tonight displayed a sort of mindless courage under fire, just digging in with the usual lines.
    Tomorrow we’ll have it explained to us that as an assertion based politician Abbott doesn’t have to read anything anyway so there.

  218. Bob, what made me choke on my coffee was the claim that Australia will miss out on overseas investment because of all these damn Gillard taxes..

    But only two weeks ago he wanted the Chinese to stop investing in us and he wanted a cap put on the limit of overseas investment in our agricultural industry.

    Conclusion: he is full of shit.

  219. The rabidbuttsupporters are coming out in force on the 7:30 report FB page with links to a Michael Smith youtube video. A pity she had so little time to ask him questions… She needs to back up with another interview with the PM so people can see the difference. Strike while the iron is hot Ms Gillard.

  220. Miglo
    That’s right, I’d forgotten about his anti investment stuff. Illustrating yet again that he just relies on a bunch of contradictory slogans & hopes they never intersect.

  221. Pyne accused of reading between the lines for political reasons. Pyne claimed that that BHP is too scared of the government to say what they mean. That is PYne excuse for interpreting what was said. If so, that is the first time.

    Hpw can carbon rax be involved in removing soil. Pyne claims that it would be involved in the cost of 50 million removing soil.

    It is my understanding that BHP are postponing because they believe there is a cheaper way to go ahead.

    At least they are being questioned. Answers not credible.
    ABC 24

  222. The Opposition is falling into a bad habit of rushing out with negative comments, without taking time to actually read, let alone analyse what has been released. They did this with the Gonski report, and now the BHP.. statement.

    One can only say, they are clasping at straws. They are showing either shocking political judgement or they just do not care for the truth, but for something to hang their anti carbon tax on.

    Now they are complaining that in less than a week, the government has not made agreements with Nauru and Manus Island. They are also saying that increasing the numbers we will take, is of no importance, Some would say, tha opposite is true.

    Now are we to read between the lines what Abbott and Co say, or should we take what they say at face value. Maybe the visitor we can do without has answers to that one.,

    I say this, as Mr. Abbott and Mr. Pyne are saying we need to read between the lines in what BHP say. They say the words capital costs are a euphemism for carbon tax and MRRT and other shocking things that Labor have done. In other words, he is accusing BHP of lying to their shareholders and the stock market. Serious crimes I believe.

    What is surprising, is that the mining industry is not supporting what Abbott is claiming.

  223. The Coalition has written to the Federal Government calling for urgent action on the next step to ensure asylum seekers can be sent offshore.

    The Government’s offshore processing legislation flew through Parliament last week and the Army has already inspected the Nauru and Manus Island sites.

    But the Opposition’s border protection spokesman Michael Keenan says key documents that nominate Nauru have not been tabled.

    and

    He does not think the Government needs to act on the refugee intake increase immediately.

    “I don’t think [increasing the refugee intake] has the same urgency. We need to have a discussion about that as a parliament,” he said.

    A spokesman for Immigration Minister Chris Bowen says the Government is still making the diplomatic arrangements for the scheme, but it is expected to begin within a matter of weeks, not months.

    Mr Bowen says there will be a progress report on Australia’s asylum seeker intake in the coming days.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-23/coalition-urges-tabling-of-key-nauru-documents/4216704?height=100&ratio=1×1&width=100

  224. Abbott is comfortable only when he can mouth slogans. Take him out of that comfort zone, as Sales did last night, and he’s close to inarticulate. Incapable of coherent human exchange, and in a fashion approaching the robotic, he searches desperately for the slogan he needs from his vast vault of verbal mediocrity. With the fierce concentration of a five year-old tying his shoelaces, mouth working, eyes swivelling, tics pulsing, Abbott digs deep into the black back caverns of his memory, and after a delay that causes the viewer to practically cringe with disbelief, he emerges to triumphantly flourish a slogan he’s finally managed to recover, the one he hopes will save him from actually having to answer a question.

    I can’t remember an interview that has so thoroughly exposed Abbott’s utter uselessness as a leader, or indeed, as an MP at all. Racist, misogynist, ill-informed, incapable of intelligent debate on just about any topic, riddled with insecurities, Abbott’s only talent, if it can be described as such, is chanting Liberal mantras, those repetitive, monotonous utterances that mean nothing, inspire no one, and address none of the issues facing this country today.

    http://noplaceforsheep.com/2012/08/23/abbotts-vast-vault-of-verbal-mediocrity-revealed/

    It does not matter where one looks, the reaction is the same.

  225. There is a bench mark truth test. BHP has to tell the truth to the stock markets. Paul Bonjour, ABC Local Radio. Agreed that 7-30 last night was good.

    For Tony to get rid of these taxes, he has to do it through the parliament, which success is at least two parliaments away. He said when it comes to uncertainty. Abbott needs to look in the mirror. It is he that is creating the uncertainty.

  226. They are now extending guilt by association to Roxon. It appears that she also was active during the alleged Gillard crimes.

  227. Mining boom could be over. That does not mean that we are now in bust. It means we are moving back towards the normal, which could be good for the economy.

  228. “There is a bench mark truth test. BHP has to tell the truth to the stock markets. Paul Bonjour, ABC Local Radio.”

    A point that is being made around the web at the moment as Abbott has now been caught out in a lie to cover up a lie.

    He said that BHP meant MRRT and Carbon Price when they stated Operating Costs as being the reason they cancelled the Olympic Dam expansion. Apart from the fact there would be no MRRT or Carbon Price on the expansion it’s being pointed out that BHP would have to directly name them to the ASX as reasons for cancelling the expansion.

  229. …during the alleged Gillard crimes.

    But there are no allegations. Time and again the opposition and the reporters throwing assertions around have been asked to state their allegations and they have refused.

    To make an allegation on what they know not to be fact would very quickly land them in the shit and they know it. All this is about is smear, nothing more nothing less.

  230. Paul, thanks again.

    Migs, is 24 hours up yet?

    The ABC’s balls.

    The Abbott spent another day pushing bucket loads of spin
    While the BHP report… had the truth…not lies… within
    So as Abbott claimed the tax constraints made investment rather sparse
    The truth proved Abbott once again was talking through his arse

    So it’s just as well he didn’t sell it…. To buy the lands top job
    As the bulk of what he says comes from his bum.. through to his gob
    Which also highlights his problems of… identifying parts
    As his bum produces policy… while his brain produces farts

    And as the day winds down…. from his usual.. question time ..spat
    He rocks up to the studio for a cosy little chat
    With Leigh Sales from the 7.30 report who’s there to make the calls
    A most unlikely source for “our” ABC.. to find some balls

    But find some balls they did with Sales… in her opening… salvo
    Asking “weren’t you loose with the truth today” giving him nowhere much to go
    So as Abbott does when all else fails… he resorted to his spin
    Showing once again that, between THOSE ears, there’s a vacuous space within

    So the intrepid reporter soldiered on… quoting Marius Kloppers
    While Abbott dug his own Olympic dam…..and filled it up with whoppers
    And as the spin and bluster freely flowed… and he continued spewing bile
    Our intrepid blond reporter cracked her enigmatic smile

    Referring back.. to the report.. she quoted Line and verse
    And Abbott only blustered…making him look even worse
    So moving to the carbon “tax” Sales stated once again
    “weren’t you loose.. with the truth here too”… causing Abbott further pain

    He tried his slogans “The python squeeze” and not “A cobra strike”
    But he looked like the little Dutch boy… with his finger in the dyke
    And he knew that he was drowning and his brain was nearly spent
    When Sales.. used his own.. “Wrecking Ball”… to destroy his argument

    So he tried to counter her wrecking ball.. going back to BHP
    But again she quoted Kloppers ….leaving him nowhere to flee
    Then our Hero.. changed her tack to the asylum seekers plight
    And asked about “Illegals”… spoiling for another fight

    So Abbott replied to a question… that Sales didn’t even ask
    But Leigh Sales was having none of that, quickly bringing him to task
    Then she asked about pollies lying…and he thought ‘I’ve got this one’
    So he started in on our PM… and on the “lies”… he says she’s run

    But Sales asked “are you absolutely scrupulous about not telling lies?”
    “Of course” he said quickly moving on… as the truth fairy promptly dies
    So Sales came back with three examples of how the Abbott lied
    And as with the poor truth fairy.. Abbotts shredded credibility died

    With his hole getting ever deeper and for him no end in sight
    He started looking for a door through which to plan his flight
    Then she asked “If we scratch your surface, what is it that we’ll find there?”
    And his answer showed a vacuum filled with naught but smelly air

    Then the subject changed to our PM.. and her time.. at S & G
    And the Abbott thought the tide had turned and that he was home free
    So he started on about some questions… he thought.. needs addressing
    But Sales asked “what are the questions then?” and to that end kept on pressing

    So he pointed to “The Australian”,….. the LNP daily rag
    And claimed that they were reputable … The lying little dag
    Then she asked if it was right…. that his front bench sought an answer
    But he dodged and leapt and spun around like a manic ballet dancer

    So she said “alas,.. there’s more I’d ask… but I’ve just run out of time.”
    And Abbott wiped his fevered brow thinking “That may be my line!”
    So thanks a lot Leigh Sales for calling Abbott out on his fibbing
    And thank you Mr Rabbott for the gift.. that keeps on… giving
    :lol:

    Cheers

  231. Skeptical. that was pure brilliance and I’m sure that the readers will have as much pleasure from it as I have. This line is a classic:

    But he dodged and leapt and spun around like a manic ballet dancer

    Well done, mate. Thumbs up.

  232. Skeptical, love these lines from you :D

    So as Abbott claimed the tax constraints made investment rather sparse
    The truth proved Abbott once again was talking through his arse

  233. The Australian apologises: (bold as printed)

    AN article in today’s The Australian reported that Prime Minister Julia Gillard had set up a trust fund for her then boyfriend 17 years ago.

    This is wrong.

    The Australian apologises for the error.

    The bit in bold is in a larger font than the retraction below, which is not in bold.

    So it looks like a headline saying Gillard set up a trust fund and if you didn’t scan down you would miss the apology.

  234. I get the feeling that there might be a few of those in the coming days ME :(

    (not from scaper though, just the oo attempting to cover its derier)

  235. “So he pointed to “The Australian”,….. the LNP daily rag
    And claimed that they were reputable … The lying little dag”

    I feel vindicated in adding these lines.
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  236. great verse there Skeptical :grin:

    Which also highlights his problems of… identifying parts
    As his bum produces policy… while his brain produces farts

    :lol: :lol: lol: :lol: lol: :lol:

  237. Correction: Prime Minister Julia Gillard

    I just saw that as a link on the news site, and thought that it was saying that Gillard was offering up a correction.

    “Correction to Prime Minister Julia Gillard ” is a lot less ambiguous.

    Yeah, I know, touchie aren’t I ;)

  238. Mobius @11.02am and,

    The bit in bold is in a larger font than the retraction below, which is not in bold.

    The msm up to their usual tricks. :evil:

  239. I’ve seen a lot of comments from Ciobo lately and he’s been described as a Turnbull lieutenant who is not in the good books with Abbott. Is he a potential replacement?

  240. Skeptical, have been absent from blogs lately, so have just read your poem. Brilliant. Loved every line. My favourite two lines are the same as Pterosaur’s-a few simple words and Lieaot’s character, for want of a bettet word, is laid bare!

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