‘Twas a positive little headline on news.com. On the eve of the economic forum Julia Gillard has asked business and union leaders to loudly speak up for our economy (which the whole world knows is going gangbusters).
Would have been a well-rounded article if the whole story remained positive, such as a word from an attendee to the forum, or a business leader, or a union leader. But not Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey!
Here’s Abbott’s uncontrolled thought bubble that was so eagerly sought by news.com:
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said it would be “a carefully-scripted choreographed event” which was not about adopting new policy ideas.
“She’s not interested in changing policy. She’s just interested in stifling criticism and, unlike this Prime Minister, I am prepared to change the policy of this nation,” said Mr Abbott.
Of FFS, has the idiot been asleep since the last election? Did he miss the 300 pieces of legislation that passed through the Houses of Parliament? Has he not publicly opposed everything put forward by Labor who are actually trying to do something?
Anyway, care to back that up, Mr Abbott, with a policy of your own? Do you actually know what a policy is? And how are you going to change the policy of this nation, as you say? Will you be making a call to your mates at the church to draft Workchoices II? Will you be phoning the captains of every ship in the navy asking them to turn the boats around? Will you scrap the NBN because Uncle Rupert wants you to? Will you lead the cavalry charge in another intervention while on the phone taking instructions from Little Johnnie? Will you front up to Nick Minchin’s office to ask whether climate change is real? Will you ask Gina or Clive if pensioners can manage with what they get?
I’m sure you’ll have a rush of thought bubbles once you get the keys to The Lodge. Someone from the big end of town will help you with a policy when your thought bubbles just won’t pop.
But aren’t news.com just wonderful? They run a headline about Julia Gillard calling for the message to get told about our good economy and then they introduce Tony Abbott and his sidekick Joe (Pancho) Hockey to throw some shit around.
Here’s Hockey’s pearl of wisdom:
“Labor uses their talkfests to make big new promises, break them months later and then introduce new taxes.”
Care to back that up with some facts, Joe? Or don’t news.com care to deal with facts? Is just the sound of your voice enough to make Uncle Rupert’s ticker tick a little faster?
For a bloke who can smell a microphone a mile away it’s a bit rich coming out with bullshit because some people want to be positive about our country. This is the bloke who lost the 2007 election for the Coalition because he couldn’t sell Workchoices. And in his current job he can’t even add up. What a legend. Why do they bother with him?
Honestly, those two clowns leave me speechless.
A scan of a piece of printed electioneering material issued during the 2007 Australian Federal Election featuring an attack on Joe Hockey (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
“I am prepared to change the policy of this nation,” said Mr Abbott.”
Can someone explain what this means. The policy of the nation, what in the hell is that. How does a nation have policy.
The only thing I see that man showing any interest in, is becoming PM by hook or crook.
That amused me too. But given that he can only think one policy at a time it is quite normal for him to come up with that rubbish.
Abbott is correct, the PM is not interested in changing policy, that is if it is policy that he is putting forwarded. That is Howard’s policy from the past.
The PM is interested in seeking opinions from that the PM will create policy.
As Migs said, it appears to have escaped Abbott that the PM has put much policy into place.
The PM is now ready to take the next step.
Without any shadow of a doubt Tony the Phoney is not only an idiot but he is seriously unhinged and delusional. He is a complete fruit loop and and batshit crazy. He is an embarrassment to be leader of a major political party.Hockey is just a fat,bloated buffoon. Abbott —— “in your guts you know he’s nuts”.
And Tony would know all about carefully scripted choreographed events, seeing as he does one of his own to universal acclaim every day.
Hockey can’t get it together to even do that.
I’d like a dollar for every one of Tony Abbott’s carefully scripted, choreographed appearances!
Pip
Snap.
Always accuse your opponent of doing what you’re doing yourself, as that noted right wing thinker Joe Goebbels remarked.
Abbott’s dreaming
STOP PRESS: Latest GDP – 1.3% For March QTR – 4.3% for the Year
The Latest BISONs ARE HERE – 1st June 2012
http://www.thefinnigans.blogspot.com.au/
Pip, lovely to see you back.
Been to the Pub tonight playing 8-ball ( hey its Tuesday a.k.a my Saturday night), got into a friendly argument with my fellow ferals about ‘is it a tax or a price’, got the usual ” she lied”….. but when I said about rich boys(and girl) newspapers, when I said about Julias whole speech- (not a tax, but a price and the 300plus Co.), then I got some understanding, mm !!! If there are some Labor pundits reading this my advice would be to sell your message better…… otherwise you’ve only got dumb C*’s like me doin’ it…..
…. and I will continue 2…… ay!
Oh and El Gordo I still didnt get pissed….. so..imo… Im not a complete disgrace, but I may be half of one
Thanks Migs, that “man flu” is just awful….
Excellent post as usual
LOVO, next Tuesday you can explain to your mates that “she”, the PM, didn’t lie, she announced the carbon price and the emissions trading scheme in a
PRE-election speech which is still on her website, and it was reported in The Australian by no less than the very important Paul Kelly and Dennis Shanahan…
sorry no links till tomorrow, old computer died and I lost all my bookmarks.
Pip, exactly what I done did, but might I say that the realisation about rich buggers owning the press and what they had/are doing, for me, was the Revelation that they didnt realise….. I detected the D’oh moment from the less feral….. (oh, have we been manipulated )….. HELLO….
LOVO, here is Pip’s link..I made certain that I kept it when she put it up at the Café.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983
Cu, I just love that pic of Abbott and Julia.
Following Tony Abbott looking a bit of a twit on twitter, is this set to become facebook page of the day?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Home-Of-The-Horse-Sized-Duck/430196147014556?skip_nax_wizard=true#
Migs’, re Will you be phoning the captains of every ship in the navy asking them to turn the boats around?
That one amused me somewhat when it appeared (briefly) in the newspapers..briefly of course because it was something negative against Tony Abbott.
It related to a radio interview given by Tony and the interviewer *shock*..wait for it, actually asked him a question. The question was, And how will the boats’ crews know when it’s safe to return the boats around?
Tony answered, because I’ll tell them when to.
Unfortunately the interviewer didn’t pursue it further, however it certainly brought forth questions. It certainly was as Migs puts it, one of Tony Abbott’s thought bubbles..or is that brain f*rts?
However, let’s take Tony at his word. For starters, Tony have you ever been at sea in a dangerous situation with desperate people crowded onto a leaking ship? One cannot just sit on it waiting for Tony to get off his bike, or off the loo or wherever to wait for Tony Abbott’s “expert opinion” as to whether a vessel is or is not seaworthy. Admiral Barrie recently mooted that the captains will always tell Abbott that they are not seaworthy or else they would possibly be liable for any lives lost at sea. That is, if the captain errs in judgement about seaworthiness who is going to be held liable?
There is also the point as to whether or not a Prime Minister can give orders to enlisted personnel. The head of the Armed Forces is not the PM, but the Governor General. Enlisted personnel swear alliegance to Australia and her representative the GG. This was done deliberately via separation of powers so that no one political party could commandeer an army.
Dave, thank you for that one. I have immediately clicked a Like on it for you.
And Gillard’s Talkfest here in Queensland will achieve what precisely?
Iain, who knows? It depends on the following people I should imagine..
Lovo…. Julia admitted it was a tax.
Iain, I’m sure the forum will achieve more than the critics imagine.
`Min & Migs
why do you have such faith in this piece of showmanship?
Iain..umm errr. Why do you preempt and say that nothing will be achieved because of it?
And speaking of showmanship.. Warning! Warning! Pic below not to be viewed on a full stomach..
Let’s just wait and see shall we Iain?
el gordo, once again you are twisting what was said.
it was along the lines, if you want to call it a tax, so be it. I do not want to be distracted by explaining it is not a tax. I want to stick to what I want to do, to address the climate change. The PM is guilty of treating the media with a having some sense of decency.
The PM said if you want to call it a tax, I am not arguing. No where did the PM say it was a tax, as we know taxes to be.
It has always been and is, a market based cost on carbon emissions, with a fixed price for three years.
Iain, so the PM is now guilty of talking the economy up. I would have thought that was the duty of a PM. The PM is talking to business and the public. You accused the PM not getting the message out and not listening to the public. When the PM takes steps to so so, you then criticize her for doing the job.
Why is not your anger aimed at Mr. Abbott for continuously talking this nation down.
I suspect your greatest fear, along with Mr. Abbott, is that this PM and government will succeed. That the country is travelling well.
el gordo, when has Mr. Abbott put forwarded anything that is worth copying. If anything he says is copied, what is wrong with that.
That was one of Mr. Menzies strongest strengths, condemning what Mr. Caldwell proposed during elections, and adopting as soon as re-elected.
Min, I agree that is is dubious how much right a PM has to interfere in the day to day running of Defence. Like police and courts, it is the governments role to set policy. It is not their role to be involved in the running of the departments..
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Glenn Stevens on ABC 24 now.
Meanwhile at another talkfest
HR Nicolls Society gave a standing ovation to “unionist” Kathy Jackson..
Now that is showmanship, but I wonder how many of the fawning Coalition, Abbott, Pyne,Abetz, Brandis turned up to cheer on their hero, or were they all in hiding as more comes to light over their Kathy?
Cu, one does not have to talk the economy up..it is up.
And Cu, it’s even more important than police, courts, State government. What Tony Abbott is inferring is that an elected politician might have undue influence on Australia’s armed services. We’re not talking about as per little Johnny of photo ops and telling one of the ships going to the Gulf to wait a couple of days (which JWH did) – this is stating that he Tony Abbott as PM will GIVE ORDERS to the armed services.
This flies in the face of the Constitution and the Separation of Powers Doctrine. No small bikkies there.
Here is an uncontrolled thought bubble from a journalist at the tele:
“But the state will have to sell the $10-15 billion electricity poles and wires and get some funding from a future Abbott government for roads and rail to get what it really wants.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/devil-is-in-the-details-with-shift-in-grants/story-e6freuy9-1226393529706
Where is “some funding from a future Abbott government for roads and rail” that featured in Hockeys $70 Billion black hole.
Talk about BS from a partisan media
CU
Gillard can only convince two State premiers to come to this event ( even Newman here in Queensland where its being held is not going top join in) It is all smoke and mirrors from Labor. As for “talking the economy up” Give me a break willya we all know that nothing said by Gillard and Swan does any such thing. They are so universally dismissed that if they announced, at midday, that the sun was shining most of the people would rush to their windows to check if they are telling the truth.
Because that is not what he has been doing, he has quite rightly been pointing out why this is a very bad government and how the country would be better under a Coalition administration.
I fear droppings from porcine aviation much more than I fear Labor succeeding because pigs flying is far more likely than Gillard et al getting anything right.
Of course Mr. Abbott is concerned for Australia.
If he is not talking the economy down, he is doing a good job of spreading doom and gloom.
To do so, he has to spread lies and ignore the reality that this country is travelling OK.
If he struck to facts and criticize government policies, I would have no complaint.
This he does not do.
Iain, why not turn on ABC 24 and listen to what is being said.
Ask Tony any question and the answer one will get is cut the carbon tax.
Cu, and
I believe that you have it precisely.
Some right wingers state, but Tony doesn’t have to provide any policies until closer to the election..which is odd, because Tony has always stated that another election would be called any tick of the clock due to this “dysfunctional” government.
However, and in spite of the above what precisely is stopping Tony from providing some semblance of a sensible argument about how he would do it better.
Iain, maybe the talk fest will reveal a little reality of where we are at.
For fear of being labelled a conspiracy theorist, I would like to refer to Miglo’s tweet “I’m sick of news.com lapping up Abbott’s thought bubbles.”.
The only conclusion is that there has to be an agenda, for example why are journalists able to provide criticism of Julia Gillard but not of Tony Abbott.
During the time when the Liberals were last in power, Howard’s actions were commented upon, but only superficially with some exceptions..notably Michelle Grattan and George Megathingy et al.
This was also a time when the blogs came into their own.
An idea might be that because of the development of citizen journalism..the more that we do, the less that the msm does by way of critiques of Tony Abbott and the Opposition.
I hope you’re not suggesting we should ease off, Min, and trust the MSM to step in to fill the vacuum?
More seriously I agree with Miglo there is an agenda. It’s not even a covert conspiracy. Team Abbott makes the agenda patently clear on every screen on their Party website. Attack the government on every front. Get rid them all and particularly Gillard. Forget about anything else, even our own story and plans. We’ll worry about that once we’re in (i.e. thinks, Tony, once I have the keys to the Lodge!) News Ltd and their other media allies
have the same agenda.
Patricia, I think that there is buckley’s and no chance of the MSM filling any void should by some chance of fate such as an asteroid striking the Earth, or perhaps a virus striking all bloggers..that the MSM would step into the fray so as to provide balance.
Yes indeed, there is an agenda. My eluding to a “conspiracy theory” was a reference to past discussions oft held here where we who have been picking up on media bias were answered via statements (accompanied with eye-rolling)..Yeah, right it’s all the media’s fault.
Min, we cannot blame the media for over three quarters of the public believing interest rates are higher now than they were in Howard days.
They only have to look at their mortgage repayments and the fact they are paying up $4000 or more less each year.
There is plenty put in the public domain that tell us the economy is among one of the best in the world.
I believe we need to start looking at what many in the public believe and why they have come to the conclusions they have.
Yes, the media has not made it easier.
I am fast coming to the conclusion,. this country will not cop female leaders.
Look at the history of how female premiers have been treated. The media and public destroyed them all.
I believe they were all as good as the men they replaced.
I also believe it is important for the well being of the country, that the PM survives the onslaught, on behalf of all woman who follow her.
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Cu, and
we cannot blame the media for over three quarters of the public believing interest rates are higher now than they were in Howard days.
We can if it’s via a series of omissions. That is, when JWH was in power every tiny event received front page headlines. Whereas, I am certain that today Julia would have to do a circuit of Old Parliament house..and naked at that..for anything which the government does to receive more than a begrudged admission that it was a job well done.
Cu, I’m not as certain as you about whether it’s to do as to whether the PM/premiers were females or was it to do with the fact that they were Labor.
Example, should it have been a male who had replaced Rudd would the media have treated him any differently?
I think that the difference lies in the PM’s ability to fire back. A male can fire back and he is called authoritative, but if a woman does the same she is labelled a harridan.
As I said, I do not mind if they keep to facts. The sad thing is that they do not.
Min, we still insist on treating women different. I believe it is not only men that do this, there are many women who are out in front, attacking women leaders, whether they are a leading hand on the factory floor or the PM of the country.
One place this does not appear to occur is in the banking industry. Those women appear to be treated with respect.
Cu, I disagree with you on one woman leader, and that being Anna Bligh, she sold highly profitable Queensland assets against the wishes of the voters, and on losing the election left the State with massive debts, that was the first time I have ever voted against the ALP.
Cu, I agree to a certain extent..that there are some types of women who are even more harsh on another woman than any man might be. My all time worst boss was a woman..a combination of a power tripper and the office b*tch all rolled into one.
Interestingly, these types of women are often far more lenient on males than they are on other women. There must be a psychological profile relating to these types.
CU
because I don’t get that station’s signal with enough clarity to watch it.
Crowey, I am not in disagreement with you there. She is one that seemed to hold her own with the men.
What I will hold judgement on is whether her being a woman made her judgement wrong, or whether a male in the same position, might have come to the same opinion.
Whether they would have treated a male so harshly.
What I am waiting to see, is whether the new mob with their great majority will do any better.
I suspect not.
You have a computer. Try Iview.
I am on the Central Coast. I have similar problems. I can have all stations or all the ABC. I choose the latter.
I do not have Sky, but they seem to televise much as well.
CU
I view uses too much bandwidth
Sorry but I meant to add I can only get the commercial stations here the ABC I can get occasionally but it just pxiilates all the time which makes it un-watch-able
I know what you mean Iain, when I was at Billinudgel I could get 2 stations only. The only way that I could get mobile phone service was if I stood in the kitchen sink…true..
‘I believe they were all as good as the men they replaced.’
I believed Julia was and that’s why I voted for her, but her policy bombshell after hopping into bed with the greens…was a disgrace.
If Rudd comes back before Xmas, with the intention of saving the party, only a minority would object…and of course Tony, whose small target profile will become redundant.
Not on Iprimus and other ISP. Free for me.
On Julia hopping into bed with the Greens. Which policy might that have been? Let me guess.
Perhaps we should all hope to be as well off as the US..what was that about Australia being a nation of whingers…
http://www.theage.com.au/world/recession-took-americans-net-worth-back-to-1992-20120612-2082c.html#ixzz1xdpAYFd2
el gordo reveals his lack of political know how when he talks about ‘hopping into bed with the Greens’! Government was formed by Labor in alliance with the Greens party which had won a substantial level of votes and with independents, resulting in a stable administration. There was no bombshell surprise in the carbon price compromise struck with the Greens and independents, except in the timing before the ETS policy Labor had taken to the electorate comes into play. The so called lie was no such thing.
el gordo ignores the many differences between Labor and the Greens, since the minority government came into being.
It is minority government, that governs with the support of the Greens and independents on the cross bench.
This PM has not bought in anything that is in contradiction to ALP policy.
Those who support her, have not had everything their own way.
IT IS NOT A COALITION GOVERNMENT.
el gordo, another good reason for using renewals for energy. Forget the big, fossil fuel power houses, that transport electricity over thousands of kilometers at great cost. Move to wind and solar, which can be smaller and closer to the towns where it is needed.
When I was small, I seemed to remember smaller towns having their own power stations. I cannot remember what fuel was used, but I suspect oil.
It can be done. It is being done.
more
ROOTY HILL RSL. | Photo By Mike Bowers
http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/the-hidden-cost-of-infinite-energy-part-1/19/
Patricia, I am certain that el gordo will correct me if I am wrong but the “lie” which she refers to is the fact of climate change – that CO2 is but a harmless gas, and therefore the tax was never needed in the first place. That basically is her argument. That is, she disputes the science.
From daughter who is completing her PhD in molecular bioscience, the science has been settled for over a decade. I think that I believe my daughter and all of the other learned folk, science being very very far from anything resembling my field of expertise.
Patricia, I seen where you warned us that we should not lower ourselves to Mr. Abbott’s level. You are right, we do not need to do so.
Maybe we should take our clue from research into eradicating toads. The studies have shown, the most efficient way is to eradicate them is to use their own toxins against them.
Maybe that is all we need to do with Mr. Abbott, is to use the toxins he spreads, throughout the community, creating fear and mayhem against him.
Just keep playing back his own words and actions.
If one wants to go to Redneck Central, then look no further than an Andrew Bolt blog on the subject of asylum seekers..
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/why_isnt_long_more_upset_when_boat_people_drown/#commentsmore
Thanks for that link to blot, Min. You just spoiled what was, a perfectly good day.
Sorry about that ‘rab..I did provide a warning.
CU, Why does that picture remind me of Abbott?
‘rab..could it be the slime???
Rab, maybe because it is a ugly animal that has very little valuable use and is hard to get rid of.
Maybe because it is an ugly animal that is a danger to all that crosses it’s path.
Maybe because it will sacrifice it’s own young to survive.
And of course the big news story pertains to Scott Morrison..
Is there something quite weird about this picture..Morrison receiving BIG time publicity about his demanding an apology. The statement made by Long is fairly benign.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/abc-apology-to-scott-morrison/story-e6frg996-1226394622721
And let’s not forget who Scott Morrison is..he’s the person who objected and loudly to money being spent Opposition attacks public funding of flights for families attending boatpeople funerals
Maybe Abbott is smart.
I congratulate Mr. Long for telling it as it is. There should be no apology.
“I believed Julia was and that’s why I voted for her….
Oh and how I laughed and laughed at this drollery. I laughed until my sides hurt, I laughed until my partner, used to my very eccentric ways, started to look at me worryingly, I laughed so much it became breathless squeaks and then I stopped with tears running down my face.
Thanks for the comedy break el gordo.
And now, Mo, you have provided me with a good laugh.
El gordo has certainly been a barrel of fun tonight.
Mobius..there was something decidedly alternative reality about that statement from EG. I hope that your partner didn’t become unduly distressed and was provided with a fullsome explanation..but then on the other hand EG might be a bit hard to explain.
Migs, and for the 99th hundredth time in the history of this blog. It’s SNAP.
She’s not very political and spending a lot of time on Facebook mostly playing online games is as far as social media goes. I explained this person online has over a long time done nothing but diss all things Labor whilst making excuses for all things Liberal and then drops the clanger of saying they voted for Gillard. The contradiction from online actions to this statement was so stark I took it as a great joke.
By the way Abbott caught out in a great big lie. Said that half the rise in NSW electricity was because of the carbon tax when it was around 10% of the rise and smack on the Federal government’s projection for which they are giving full compensation.
Abbott’s response. The carbon tax will to up and up an continue to go up whilst the compensation won’t.
Thanks be a reporter, Hugh Rimington, picked up on the lie and said that the compensation will also go up with CPI so it is not true to say it won’t increase.
Mobius, then what’s the excuse for electricity charges to have increased 22% in NSW in the last 2 years. Something to do with privatisation?
With thanks to Jennifer on FB for the reminder..but now it’s Morrison who wants an apology…
http://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-sees-votes-in-antimuslim-strategy-20110216-1awmo.html#ixzz1xfFex6Cy
18% rise approved for power, which is above projections and up to 16% for gas in NSW, all blamed on the carbon tax and the Federal government.
Problem. For it to be the Federal government’s fault then electricity would have to have gone up by 18% and gas by 16% in every State and Territory and the carbon tax that is not even in yet would have to account for 100% of the NSW price rises.
The Liberal and media attacks are getting as silly as someone saying that the Liberals are into infrastructure building, but they don’t want to flag it because Gillard, who they voted for, might steal their ideas.
Still wrong
Yes utterly stupid of Hockey, and this doesn’t even get into the fact it’s fiber optics that feeds the wireless, not the other way around. And that for the growing take up of wireless to be sustained requires much greater broadband feeding it. That is the NBN.
On the subject of the Olympic Dam project. We have Abbott and Pyne stating:
During a whistle-stop tour of South Australia, Abbott said BHP Billiton’s $30 billion Olympic Dam expansion project was ”hanging in the balance”. Axing Labor’s carbon tax and mining tax and reining in ”union militancy” were three major incentives that a Coalition government would deliver, he said, adding that in the meantime the Labor government should guarantee that its mining tax won’t be extended to gold, copper and uranium.
Pyne said BHP was reconsidering the timing of the Olympic Dam expansion because of heightened political risk, saying: ”I directly blame the Gillard government for that.”
Compared with..below and via other links. That is Abbott and Pyne are basically telling porkies. BHP’s chief exec having denied above. Come on MSM where are the blazing headlines stating: HE LIED
The truth is more complex, as usual. It’s the timing of the Olympic Dam expansion that is being reviewed, and the carbon tax and mining tax are not decisive.
BHP’s chief executive, Marius Kloppers, the group’s chairman, Jac Nasser, Rio Tinto’s chief executive, Tom Albanese, and Glencore’s chief executive, Ivan Glasenberg, have all warned recently that Australia is becoming a more expensive place to invest in, and a more regulation-heavy one.
But as BHP reacts to softer commodity markets by re-sequencing its lengthy line-up of potential resources developments, Australia’s carbon tax and mining tax are not front of mind: hardly surprising, really, given that Kloppers is a supporter of carbon pricing and helped negotiate a watered-down mining tax after Julia Gillard pushed Kevin Rudd aside in June 2010.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/demand-not-carbon-drives-expansion-20120614-20d4s.html#ixzz1xq0xmlfa
‘Oh and how I laughed and laughed at this drollery.’
Thanx…you’re such a good audience.
ME, yes he is over there to save SA.
‘There’ll certainly be a place in my team in Canberra for good candidates and I am really thrilled and encouraged that people of great quality, like Christian Porter, are putting their hands up to run for the Coalition at the next federal election.’
Tony Abbott
This fellow Porter will be on the front bench after the next election and may end up as PM in the not too distant future.
Had a good giggle at the comments by one overseas communications expert who stated he could not understand there is actually people against the NBN.
He said it would be like telling the infrastructure builders in the early 1900′s that there is no need to pave the roads and build dual carriageways as the single lane dirt roads and tracks are good enough and doing the job.
Mobius..and the Snowy Mountain Scheme was damn (pardon the pun) expensive also.
No need to build airports, because airplanes are only ever going to be used by a few elites…
Pyne and Abbott went further. They hinted that the MRRT would extend to the project. A proposition that the PM has denied on more than one occasion.
Well Min, they are not interested in building the second airport. Maybe it can be extended out into Botany Bay.
drollery.
New word el gordo. Do you know what it means. I hope you do, as I have no idea of what you are trying to say.
Cu, I believe that the ACT government is latching onto this one, with a push for Canberra to take over a substantial amount of Sydney’s business class travel. Interstate conferences etc can all held in Canberra minus the hassles of Sydney travel. Mind you, I found them fairly efficient..a bit slow when I was in a hurry travelling from the airport.
Cu, just guessing but I think that EG is getting his/her/it’s blogs confused. But I’m only guessing.
‘But I’m only guessing.’
As I’ve always suspected…
With the airport, only the people of the central west want it, so I’m guessing a real bullet train (The Cadia Express) is not too far off.
El gordo, that will happen with the O’Farrell government about the same time that they extend the train line from Casino to meet up with the Qld service at Varsity Lakes.
CU. drollery came up yesterday, as follows:-
Möbius Ecko
June 13, 2012 @ 6:29 pm
El Gordo said… “I believed Julia was and that’s why I voted for her….
Oh and how I laughed and laughed at this drollery. I laughed until my sides hurt, I laughed until my partner, used to my very eccentric ways, started to look at me worryingly, I laughed so much it became breathless squeaks and then I stopped with tears running down my face.
Thanks for the comedy break el gordo.
LOVO..it was almost poetical..me thinks someone was telling porkies. Ya’know just a sneaking suspicion.
And it wasn’t Möbius.
Migs, and it’s certainly never been you.
OK Cu.
Oh how I laughed at your waggery.
That better?
ME, I still do not know why she used it today.
What?
ELGondo, What? ……exactly….
There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”
—
Warren Buffett
Dear of dear!
The whole speech:- …. “The taxation system has tilted toward the rich and away from the middle class in the past ten years. It is dramatic … and I think it should be addressed.” “…we (Buffett and his late wife) agreed with Andrew Carnegie, who said that huge fortunes that flow in large part from society should in large part be returned to society. In my case, the ability to allocate capital would have had little utility unless I lived in a rich, populous country in which enormous quantities of marketable securities were traded and were sometimes ridiculously mispriced.” “There’s class warfare, all right. But it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.” “But I think that people at the high end — people like myself — should be paying a lot more in taxes. We have it better than we’ve ever had it.” “The rich are always going to say that, you know, just give us more money and we’ll go out and spend more and then it will all trickle down to the rest of you. But that has not worked the last 10 years, and I hope the American public is catching on.” “My friends and I have been coddled long enough by a billionaire-friendly Congress. It’s time for our government to get serious about shared sacrifice.”
- Warren Buffett, World’s third richest man
An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailments of all republics.”
- Plutarch, Greek historian, c.100 A.D.
“Where there is an income tax, the just man will pay more and the unjust less on the same amount of income.”
- Plato, Greek philosopher, c. 400 B.C
LOVO, and during the Howard years, JWH did his best to convince everyone that they were “wealthy” aka Howard’s Inspirationals. Meanwhile personal debt grew..and grew…and grew.
Well one cannot change the system from government support to user pay without those at the bottom finding themselves in trouble.
Of course the fact that lower incomes were faced with costs they had not had before, they would be in trouble.
When one is on a low income, there is not much room to move.
It did not help much, that the wealth distribution was further strewed towards the upper income earners.
The GST was the beginning, where a regressive tax was introduced on most that we buy, plus services for the first time. The taxation of the higher income and business was lowered as well.
We had the tightening of welfare at the lower end, including policies of mutual obligation, while removing means testing from many benefits,
Then too top it off. we had the rights of the workers removed, first gently then completely with WorkChoices.
To keep the populace in line, we had the fear of guns, which was ricochet a notch or two with the war against terrorism. A couple of wars was added to the mix.
We even had the mouse pads and the fridge magnets to remind us, we needed to be afraid. To push the message further, we seen our main city fenced off, and roads closed. We seen our PM in bullet proof armour more than once.
It is only now that we feel afraid. I ask why?
I have not seen the barriers out. I have not seen our streets lined with police and army. I have not seen our PM in bullet proof armour.
Talk about petty mindness. Mr. Abbott, if he sticks to previous behaviour, will not be asking questions anyway. It will only be another MSSO, with the same old tirade.
I do hope the PM takes a hour or so off to relax. She has earn the luxury.
Just watching Meet the Press. The introduction is priceless.
here appears to be a war between this show and Bolt’s. Bolt has once again poached MTP guest.
MTP has been told by the Coalition, MTP is too dangerous for them.
Not that Emerson is getting a free tide.